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Lisa is Nothing But a No Good Uppity B*tch: Red Pillers Take on … The Simpsons

Lisa Simpson: Not a Red Pill Woman

The regulars in the Red Pill subreddit are working themselves into a little bit of a lather over a story about an angry wife who tossed her beta-bucks-providing husband out of the house after he was photographed dancing on a table with a belly dancer at a bachelor party. Adding insult to injury, this was very the same woman who, only a week earlier, had been out on the town with “a handsome French bowling instructor.”

That woman’s name? Marge Simpson, her beta-abusing, alpha-chasing ways dissected in a blog post titled “The Simpsons: Hypergamy, and Male Disposability in “Life on the Fast Lane” and “Homer’s Night Out” (1990).”

Yep. They’re getting worked up about two quarter-century old Simpsons episodes:

IndyBrodaSolo 15 points 1 day ago Marge is one ungrateful bitch. She's married to a former astronaut, yet she nags all the time and accuses Homer of being slacker.

As the regulars see it, the Simpsons episodes offer clear proof of Red Pill wisdom.

Donateandfeelbetter 6 points 1 day ago Yeah what the hell does marge even do other then sit on her ass and bitch at homer anyways. If homer never had kids he could be belly dancing all night long!

But some of the regulars are as frustrated with Homer as they are angry at Marge. After all, Homer brought all this upon himself by not being the alpha asshole of every woman’s secret fantasies.

“Homer is beta as fuck, and Marge aimed early for BB [Beta Bucks]” writes one. “As she reaches 34 she sees her youth has gone and has a fleeting last chance for alpha.”

Another adds, I suspect only partially tongue-in-cheek:

Donateandfeelbetter 2 points 1 day ago Well homer would never have had this problem if he was a bad boy with huge muscles creepin at the Jersey shore every weekend. His fault for being a simp beta male.

But whatever anger the Red Pillers feel towards Marge — or frustration they feel towards Homer — is nothing compared to their fury at another Simpsons female: 8-year-old budding feminist Lisa Simpson

makethemsayayy 6 points 1 day ago i used to like the simpsons, now i find it fucking insufferable, I have to change the channel when annoying bitch Lisa goes on her tirade I have to change the fucking channel and Marge is a hypocrite cunt permalinkembedsavereportgive gold [–]Donateandfeelbetter 1 point 1 day ago Lisa is nothing but a no good uppity bitch who needs to get the feminist bullshit smacked right out of her little bitch ass mouth. Someone should hit that ugly undesirable bitch. The only reason she is a feminsit is because non of the guys other than milhouse want her nasty ass.

The one commenter who suggests that maybe putative alpha males shouldn’t really be getting this mad at a couple of Simpsons episodes from 1990 is rewarded with downvotes for his heresy.

friendlysociopathic -3 points 1 day ago If you have reached the point where a cartoon child forces you to turn off the TV you have gone too far. This is what I expect to hear from SJWs. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive gold [–]MortalSisyphus 5 points 1 day ago Obviously he isn't responding to a "cartoon child" as you so simplistically put it. This was a character developed by real people and her words were written by real writers, and this is an ideology being pushed by thousands of media figures, educators, politicians, etc. on to the public. It makes perfect sense to avoid something being shoved in your face repeatedly. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive gold [–]friendlysociopathic -2 points 23 hours ago* It is a cartoon little girl and it bothers him so much that he has to switch the channel. This is not alpha behavior by any metric on earth. If you think this is acceptable behavior in an adult male you are beta as fuck to the very core. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive gold [–]Special Olympianmakethemsayayy 1 point 1 day ago Maybe I have, obvious pandering and claiming women are better than men is just gonna piss me the fuck off from now on. At least my assertion has all of human history behind it.

As another fictional beta bucks provider said of the hypergamous slut who was ruining his life, “you are tearing me apart, Lisa!” 

H/T – r/TheBluePill

 

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Ellesar
Ellesar
6 years ago

Not surprisingly Lisa is my favourite character and always has been.

Moocow
Moocow
6 years ago

This character was developed by real people

Hmm, I’m getting a major case of deja vu here.

Is it yet another one of those “rationalizations that are totally ridiculous and imaginary and invented by overly sensitive feminazis but totally accurate when I use it to defend things I believe”? Why yes, it would appear so.

A Land Whale
A Land Whale
6 years ago

I don’t need feminem because bitches ruined my cartoons.

Shaenon
6 years ago

The comments are hilarious: just guys complaining about all the pop culture that’s been ruined for them since Taking the Red Pill. Among the dangerously feminist movies and TV shows you’ll certainly want to avoid:

— “House of Cards,” because alpha male Kevin Spacey’s wife stands up to him sometimes.
— “Forrest Gump,” because Jenny is a slut who doesn’t appreciate Forrest, a proven alpha male. Actual quote: “So what if he’s technically retarded?”
— “Disney movies like Hercules, emperors new groove, and chicken run.” No explanation given. “Chicken Run” has a mostly female cast and the alpha male rooster turns out to be a phony, so I can understand how it freaked this guy out so much he failed to notice it’s not a Disney movie.
— Any news program with an insufficiently hot female anchor. Getting updates on ISIS from an HB6 is so beta, brah!
— “Vikings,” because not even goddamn Vikings are alpha enough.

Based on these comments, I’m pretty sure that after taking the Red Pill you can’t even watch “The Matrix.”

On the plus side: “Rick and Morty is redpill as fuck.”

tov01
tov01
6 years ago

@sn0rkmaiden
“This has got to be fake. I just can’t believe they are this stupid.”

You say that, but they keep proving us wrong.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
6 years ago

Isn’t Rick & Morty just a deliberately-stupid ripoff of Back To The Future?

… Then again, their red pill is just a deliberately-stupid ripoff of Nazism, so…

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

I’m guessing their problem with Vikings is Legartha. Never mind that female warriors were a thing in Viking culture. Never mind that women women in pre-Christian Norse cultures were actually able to divorce.

For neo-Nazis who think Scandinavians are so inherently superior, they don’t seem to actually like any modern or historical Scandinavian cultures. They just like that they’re stereotypically blond, blue eyed, tall, and fair.

Mike
Mike
6 years ago

Isn’t Rick & Morty just a deliberately-stupid ripoff of Back To The Future?

It started many years ago as a deliberately-stupid BTTF parody (the characters were named Doc and Mharti instead of Rick and Morty), but it’s actually a very thoughtful, complex show. I’m not sure why redpillers would be into it – the finer points of redpill philosophy is lost on me, I guess (those blue pills are just too tasty, you know?).

Catalpa
Catalpa
6 years ago

…What is with all those white supremacy tags on that fellowship of the patriarchy post? Are they suggesting that feminism is white supremacist? Would think that would be somewhere in their screed, the closest thing there is to that is an accusation of feminism being US/Eurocentric, and that is just a thinly veiled “how can you whine about being marginalized when women in brown countries have it 1000 times worse than you, you ungrateful [insert misogynistic slur of choice here]?”

Or are they seriously trying to come off as the good guys while proudly flying their neo nazi flag?

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
6 years ago

Okay, hold on, Rick is the only man on the show that has any shred of intelligence. Summer and Beth are very intelligent while Jerry and Morty are fatuous and obtuse. (IDK, I’m trying to avoid the words “stupid” and “idiot”, forgive me.)

Every episode pretty much shows how Rick shouldn’t just lord his intelligence over people. He is wrong sometimes because he lacks compassion, which Morty provides. Although lately, Rick has been turning more compassionate (due to Morty’s influence) while Morty has been getting angrier and angrier. The show recognizes Rick is a bad influence on Morty.

I mean, what fucking show has this douche been watching?

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
6 years ago

@Catalpa

After looking at their site out of morbid curiosity – they’re flying their flag.

@Everyone else

Ah, okay; my bad. The show hasn’t been released here so I’m just going by random YouTube clips. ^^;

Cyberwulf
Cyberwulf
6 years ago

But remember everyone, it’s the fucking feminazi SocJus aGGros who are always looking for things to complain about. I’m Jordan Owen and as you can see, I’m still a massive piece of shit.

pkayden
pkayden
6 years ago

Red Pillers are not to be taken seriously. I’m sure the whole Lisa/Marge thread was a parody. At least, that’s how it read.

P.S. MRAs must have figured out a long time ago that the writers for the Simpsons are pretty liberal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_in_The_Simpsons

Perhaps MRAs need to watch a different cartoon.

Ben
Ben
6 years ago

Someone should tell the Fellowship of the Patriarch that their motto is gibberish. Patriarch is a first-declension feminine noun in Latin, as in “patriarcha.” That’s right, the feminists were even keeping men down in late antiquity!

Also, “opprimere” and its participles don’t have the (relatively) milder sense of the English derivative “oppressed,” meaning “unfairly subjected to excessive or cruel authority.” “Opprimere” strongly connotes having been crushed or defeated in one’s entirety. Something “oppressus” is unlikely to rise or recover for a very long time, if ever.

Some people do heraldry, I do ancient languages. Seriously, guys, it’s not just picking Latin-sounding words and adding “-us” and “-i” to the ends.

Cyberwulf
Cyberwulf
6 years ago

But seriously, I bet all the redpillin’ mras would scoff mightily at any discussion of how Marge stays with Homer even though he’s kind of a shit husband who regularly papers over the cracks in their relationship with a one-off grand gesture, especially in the later seasons. I especially hate that episode where Homer has to let mobsters shoot a porno movie in the house because he owes them money, Marge finds out, and takes off in a fury to go help manatees at the beach. Of course by the end of the episode she’s nursing poooooor Homer because he nearly drowned and he’s the most endangered species of all, a Devoted Husband. REMEMBER WHAT DROVE YOU OUT OF THE HOUSE, MARGE? “I owed the Mafia money”?! Ugghh.

Robert Kelly
6 years ago

@Elllesar: Mine too. I stopped watching the Simpsons regularly around season 15, so I never really got to see Lisa at her (apparently) preachy worst, but a good amount of my most favourite Simpsons episodes involve Lisa, like “Lia’s Wedding” or “Summer of 4ft 2”.

@John Pavich: My favourite irony about this is that “Homer’s Night Out” follows on with Homer taking Bart to meet the belly dancer to see that she’s more than a pretty face to be lusted over, and ends with Homer giving a speech about valuing women as more than objects of lust. That would be a beta male move for any MRA.

Alpine, RN
Alpine, RN
6 years ago

Ben wins the thread 🙂

Some sort of username
Some sort of username
6 years ago

@Mike

I’m not sure why redpillers would be into it

Reminds me of how into “young girls” getting into borderline paedophilia territory they are and this thing Rick and Morty’s co-creator did.

James Haynes
6 years ago

Beta bux really comes off as a contradiction in terms (who’d marry Homer for da money…what money?)

Thomas Hobbes
Thomas Hobbes
6 years ago

These redpillers are wasting their time with the pedantic and frivolous Simpsons; they should be investigating the diabolical sensorship of Harry Potter; where it was going to be revealed that Voldemort was a feminist. He wanted to bring Bellatrix LeStrange to power as Queen; and they started the war because Dumbeldork wanted to defund Planned Parenthood. The powers that be persuaded Rowling to take these parts out; can anyone guess why?

Boost
Boost
6 years ago

Did one of them actually rate a CARTOON SEVEN YEAR OLD as ‘undesirable?’

I need to bleach my soul.

marinerachel
marinerachel
6 years ago

I’d really like to see a Chris (Simpsons artist) reference here.

mockingbird
mockingbird
6 years ago

http://h.fastcompany.net/multisite_files/fastcompany/imagecache/inline-medium/inline/2015/09/3051506-inline-t-2-bobsburgerstitles.gif

GIF showing every failed business next door to Bob’s Burgers

This is a total non-sequitur except that it’s also regarding a cartoon with a daughter character that RPers probably also hate.

Please carry on.

Thomas Hobbes
Thomas Hobbes
6 years ago

Shelob from LOTR is a much more indubitably feminist character. RP calculates and aceverates that feminists and their sympaticos are bitter and lonely; hungry for food whether that be metaphorical or physical.

Shadow
Shadow
6 years ago

How can you be hungry for food metaphorically?!!! Step your writing game up if you want to ride in on that pompously verbose steed

Falconer
6 years ago

Oh man, that made me think of Chick’s brutal excoriation of rock music – ALL rock music – ca. 1989:

https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0034/0034_01.asp

Sample quote: “My music pushes murder, drugs, free sex, suicide, to destroy country, home and education… And man… is it doing it!”

Of all people, Batman rails against the evils of rock’n’roll in Batman: Fortunate Son. Which is a rock’n’roll song by Credence Clearwater Revival. (Not the Batman: bit, the Fortunate Son bit.) Linkara skewers it thoroughly, as I recall.

He wanted to bring Bellatrix LeStrange to power as Queen; and they started the war because Dumbeldork wanted to defund Planned Parenthood.

Why would Dumbledore have had any power over Planned Parenthood in the first place?

The powers that be persuaded Rowling to take these parts out; can anyone guess why?

Because they’re dumb?

Do Gravity’s Rainbow next!

Falconer
6 years ago

RP calculates and aceverates

It’s “asseverate,” smarty-pants. Latin root. Ad- prefix assimilated to the following S.

Thomas Hobbes
Thomas Hobbes
6 years ago

The magical world has its own version of Planned Parenthood; it generally has better family values than the muggle world but there are still many secularitists.

Rock and roll is indeed and rather indisputably a product of the powers that be, as is television; Redpillers should not focus on the scrambled pervocracy that is the sum total of cartoons and television shows. Rather they should focus on high-minded pursuits such as classical music, Gregorian chant and literature.

Robert
Robert
6 years ago

Oh, Hobbes, I wish you could quit us.

Regarding the OP – ay caramba!

slurpee97
slurpee97
6 years ago

I haven’t watched the Simpsons in a while but when I last saw Lisa had become nothing more than a soapbox for when the writers really wanted to get preachy. It seemed so out of place for a 8 year old (of any gender) to care that much about politics or current events.

Marge never bothered me.

Thomas Hobbes
Thomas Hobbes
6 years ago

I will be able to quite soon; big things are happening for me

Orion
6 years ago

Has anyone made a book of hobbes? It could be a nice companion volume to the book of owly.

contrapangloss
6 years ago

By classical music, do you mean classical, or the compilation of the classical, baroque, and romantic periods? Why is it ‘and gregorian chants’ as opposed to adding classical guitar? What about early folk songs as collected by some of our romantic composers on the side?

And why literature? How do you define literature? What makes a work worthy of the addition into canon? Why should we privilege Plato over Aristotle, and why do we accept the deconstructionist school of literary analysis? Why do we even read Freud in literary studies?

Why am I even asking?

Don’t answer, Hobbes.

Rousseau is so much cooler than you… And he was kind of a jerk, to be honest.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
6 years ago

I will be able to quite soon; big things are happening for me

Hobbes must spread his word so he may rise to a higher plane of existence.

Anarchonist
Anarchonist
6 years ago

This just baffles me. Are they seriously trying to say that the Simpsons, whose de facto main character is a lazy, obnoxious, irresponsible slob who gets by in life thanks to sheer luck and the superhuman patience and understanding of his loved ones despite him mostly being an insensitive, self-centered jerk is somehow treating Homer unfairly? The lack of real, lasting repercussions to many of Homer’s terrible, selfish deeds is what often bothers me about the show*.

Also, even if we ignore the chronological issue with referring to Homer as “a former astronaut”, doesn’t this again just show that they think that completely unrelated achievements should absolve a man of his responsibility to be a decent human being? Homer was once an astronaut (not by merit, but who’s counting), so he cannot be expected to treat his family and friends with dignity? Man, no wonder most of these guys are libertarians. “I have money, therefore I don’t need to take other people into account! Neener-neener-neener!”

It reminds me of the episode where Marge develops a gambling problem, and in the end, Homer mercilessly taunts her for it, explicitly stating that his various misdeeds don’t count “because you have a gambling problem!”

*Although the show Married… with Children features a lot of really bothersome portrayals and “jokes”, I think there is one merit to the show: Al Bundy is miserable not because of him being a ‘hapless beta’ who is being treated unfairly, but because he’s a selfish, creepy asshole who screws over himself more than anyone else does. He is explicitly shown to deserve all the bad things happening to him. In fact, pretty much all of the characters in that show are terrible people, and therefore we don’t mind seeing karmic justice get thrown into their faces. Most of the time, at least.

Shadow
Shadow
6 years ago

I will be able to quite soon; big things are happening for me

Shadow
Shadow
6 years ago

@Robert

Regarding the OP – ay caramba!

If anyone wants me, I’ll be in my room
/obscure Simpsons reference

ethfiel
6 years ago

@Pandapool: So? verbal or not, why does that matter? We have a nazi joke movie trilogy here (Der Wixxer) and the movie about Hitler coming back to life as a comedian. Nevertheless, drawn together does seem to be scripted by MRAs.

Orion
6 years ago

@ethfiel,

If you’re German, maybe you can clear this up for.

I have been told that Germany has extremely strict laws against displaying or distributing Nazi symbols or materials, and that these laws are so strict that they apply to anti-nazi as well as pro-nazi media. The American RPG game “City of Heroes” used to have nazis for the heroes to fight, but they removed the nazis before the game was released in Germany. I have heard anecdotes suggesting that other video games about shooting nazis (and America makes lots of games about shooting nazis had to make sure the nazi bases and soldiers did not display the swastika in order to evade German censors.

I don’t know if that’s true or not, but I suspect that Panda has heard the same rumors. So when she says the jokes are “not verbal,” I assume she means that the nazi characters on the show fly a swastika or nazi eagle flag.

Oliver_C
Oliver_C
6 years ago

People still watch The Simpsons?

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
6 years ago

@Orion:
The Swedish video games company Paradox publishes a lot of military strategy games, and they have been very careful to remove certain symbols from them entirely in order to prevent their games being banned in Germany (Germans are one of their main markets, apparently.) In their games, they use the 1871-1918 flag instead of the Nazi flag, and the Balkenkreuz instead of the swastika.

I’m interested to hear how widespread this is.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
6 years ago

I don’t know if that’s true or not, but I suspect that Panda has heard the same rumors. So when she says the jokes are “not verbal,” I assume she means that the nazi characters on the show fly a swastika or nazi eagle flag.

Yeah. That’s what I mean. You censor a bit of Nazi stuff in some cartoons and you don’t get the joke because a Nazi is saying it, not just a normal guy.

Of course, don’t remember the exact references. I could be confusing stuff but yeah.

John Pavlich (@johnpavlich)

@Robert Kelly Holy crap, you’re right! I completely forgot about those scenes!

@Anarchonist I love Married…With Children! Al Bundy was a sexist pig and the universe often punished him for it. In contrast to that, he was also an underdog, a lovable loser. There was always this fascinating balancing act and I feel he is one of the most memorable TV characters for it.

My favorite moments of the show were anytime any of the characters were surprisingly charitable, kind or supportive of other members within the Bundy family. They were a family of uncouth misfits but when push came to shove, they were a family, above all else. The show had this unique ability to present the Bundys as despicable sociopaths but also as the downtrodden, who were constantly being punched down upon by the “higher class” of people who were secretly just as “bad”, or even worse. The Bundys were at least honest.

“Our emotional scars run so deep, you can almost see ’em.”

My favorite character, though was Kelly. Though she embodied the stereotypical “Dumb Blonde” trope character, she would often show sparks of unfiltered wisdom and self-awareness.

“You can’t be this dumb.”
“It’s the 90s’, I can be anything I want.”

One of my favorite episodes is “Al… with Kelly”. It’s a total bottle episode, wherein Al and Kelly pretend to be sick to get out of visiting Peg’s Mother. They’re excited to have the house all to themselves but once again, the universe tortures Al throughout, by making Kelly actually get sick, forcing him to cater to her. Sure, he’s a selfish ass who complains about having to actually care for his daughter but it’s very telling in the way he meets her every whim, even going so far as to go to the store, in the rain and bring home a soggy loaf of bread. 🙂

Orion
6 years ago

Paradox does EU, right? Many of my friends from high school play it, but I went with Dominions for my “absurdly detailed asynchronous multiplayer hardcore strategy game” and never looked back. No regrets. The only online game where I’ve built any kind of rep.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
6 years ago

Paradox did EU, HoI, Victoria et al., but their big recent breakthrough hit was Crusader Kings 2.

I’ve never played Dominions, but the words “absurdly detailed hardcore strategy” are as sweet, sweet honey to me. I might have to check it out.

Orion
6 years ago

The main community/info source for Dominions 4 is the forum on Desura. It’s available on Steam but the developers are active on the Desura forum (as am I, when I have time). Desura isn’t the *biggest* Dominons community — SomethingAwful is — but is, you kno, SomethingAwful. I wrote a balance mod (which has been obsoleted by a patch) and guides to a few factions. I am on the We Hunted the Mammoth Steam group as Orion the Celestial Carp.

There are no Nazis in Dominons because the timeline for fantasy-germany ends with a feudal kingdom of mounted knights and undead soldiers commanded by vampire nobles and advised by the Illuminati.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
6 years ago

There are no Nazis in Dominons because the timeline for fantasy-germany ends with a feudal kingdom of mounted knights and undead soldiers commanded by vampire nobles and advised by the Illuminati.

There’s no “Florian Geyer disapproves” image macro, but there should be.

That does look pretty good though.

dhag85
6 years ago

If Marge settling for Homer is an example of “hypergamy”, it’s almost as if the word has lost all meaning. Like jiminy jillikers!