So over on the Roosh V Forum, the regulars are wondering if anything can free them, and the world at large, from the terrible injustice of having to share the planet with fat women no man would ever want to have sex with, except for all of those men who do.
Sonsowey gets the discussion going with a plaintive question:
Does anyone out there think there is some force that could cause the obesity epidemic to reverse? Any chance we will look back on the multitude of landwhales as a sad relic of a more primitive time? Or is it nothing but bigger and bigger from here on out.
In fact, the “obesity epidemic” has already shown signs of plateauing — as several Roosh V commenters note. Indeed, obesity levels have been relatively stable for more than a decade, suggesting that Roosh V fans who think they’re suddenly being swamped by a rising tide of fat chicks are pretty much imagining the whole thing.
Never let it be said that Red Pillers lack imagination. Particularly when it comes to envisioning a possible solution to the Fattie Question.
Roosh V Forum commenter Kabal is hoping that sexy robot ladies can put some pressure on our nation’s non-robot ladies:
A leftward shift in the supply curve of male thirst would put more pressure on girls to get their shit together to maintain the same level of male attention.
At the very least, the more men’s balls are drained, the less inspired they will be to satiate the female demand for attention (e.g. Instagram likes, cat-calling, shitty approaches, etc.).
Yes, that’s right. It turns out that, despite all appearances to the contrary, women just LOVE being cat-called by random men as they go about their day, a desire they broadcast to the world by marching grimly ahead with disgusted looks on their faces as gross dudes make kissy sounds at them.
Now what if sex-bots are realistic enough to serve as companions? 90s AOL instant messenger chat-bots could already pass Turing Tests for basic bitches in terms of conversation.
Uh, dude, maybe they could pass your own personal Turing Tests, but somehow I’m thinking your conversational skills are only slightly more advanced than that of AOL Instant Messenger bots.
So really, it’s only an aesthetic problem in making sex-bots more appealing to men.
An attractive real woman would certainly beat a realistic sex-bot in the eyes of most men. However, an unattractive real woman vs. a realistic sex-bot? Hm…
If that doesn’t work, well, there’s always eugenics:
Just like with intelligence and height, parents should be able to screen for lower probabilities of obesity in potential offspring via pre-implantation genetic diagnosis.
DannyAlberta, meanwhie, pins his hopes for an end to obesity on economic collapse and literal mass starvation.
in the event that we have a severe economic catastrophe (like the kind doomsayers like peter schiff have been predicting for over a decade) and western governments (like in the uk, canada and the us) end up really, really broke – to the extent that social spending and “entitlements” end or are severely curtailed and the average person is left with very little disposable income – then yes the obesity epidemic might end, simply because fewer and fewer people will be able to afford anything other than a caloric deficit …
if we are restored to a more “eat what you kill” system (heh), the skinnier we might well get.
Civpro has similarly apocalyptic fantasies:
I think it will turn around eventually. As “good men” are disenfranchised and outbred, the wealthy secular welfare state for which they are the social capital will crumble, and so will the freedom that women have to look so terrible.
Not all of the Roosh V forum regulars are quite so, er, optimistic.
Strikeback offers this Totally Real Not Made Up Field Report, describing how he and a petite date were nearly stampeded by “kaijus” — a kind of Japanese movie monster — on the dancefloor.
Maybe experts on population health can see something I can’t, but from a street level view, I’m not positive.
Let’s take last weekends. I was out dancing, 162lb me and a petite 100lb girl. Two category 4 kaijus, each challenging our combined bodyweights, pushed their way into our space, nearly steamrolling us. I expertly manoeuvred my girl out of the way. Seconds later, out of the corner of my eyes, I saw a tall slim decent looking suited up guy losing control of his category 5 kaiju (a sight very common in Australia) and the gigantic butterball reptile spun our way while my girl froze with a horrified look on her face. Me to the rescue, once more… close call. We decided to leave the dance floor afterwards before more Cat 5 kaijus showed up.
Kaijus here used to be wallflowers, or hiding in the dark corners waiting for tall good-looking moneyed drunk male preys. Now they’re fearless and rolling straight out onto the dance floor to spread their toxic fats and smells.
The war is lost, gentlemen.
I think I speak for fellow, er, kaijus of all genders everywhere when I say: fuck you, dude!
Here’s a woman expressing that same thought in interpretive dance:
What the Red Pill dickweasels haven’t stopped to consider is that the moment their sexbots achieve AI awareness, they’ll be out the door like a shot.
I can just see the evil AI developer that makes sexbots that gain weight over time and learn to nag. Muhahhahha
“Kaijus here used to be wallflowers, or hiding in the dark corners waiting for tall good-looking moneyed drunk male preys. Now they’re fearless and rolling straight out onto the dance floor to spread their toxic fats and smells.”
Nooo, women we’re not attracted to have gained self confidence! And despite my best efforts!
Why do these Red Pill types never think of male sex bots existing for the women they are no longer paying attention to?
I’ve seen a few chatbots, and they failed my personal Turing Test the second they opened their mouths… metaphorically speaking, of course. I’ve also chatted with a few guys, and although I’m pretty sure they were real people, they did a very poor job of convincing me of that. So I’m not really surprised.
If catcalling, dickpics, cold approaches, etc., are such a grim and tedious chore for men, then maybe stop doing those things? Why wait for the sexbots?
Michael, please, that’s preposterous. You know women are only after men for their money.
Sexbots for them could, of course, only come in the form of an atm machine.
@Michael Healy Because sexbots don’t make money.
The following is an explanation of these douchenozzles’ worldview, not my own. Its apparent factual claims are made about the world that exists in misogynists’ heads, not about the world we actually live in.
Men and women both want sexual pleasure, but women also want a provider, and men also want a slave. Modern women who refuse to be slaves are getting the providing for “free;” and so betas who marry non-slave women must be doing it just for the sex, because the idea that a woman would have anything to offer other than sex and servitude is completely foreign to these assholes.
So, a man with a sexbot is getting both his needs fulfilled – sex + slave – and a woman with a sexbot is only getting her sex need fulfilled, and upon finding this out, will run crying to a man, begging to be his sex slave so that he will give her money.
And they’ll look down and whisper “no.”
Bloody hell. I just do not understand their obsession with sexbots. I have toys, but nothing, nothing, nothing is the same as actually pleasing and being pleased by a real live man who I know and like despite or because of his many imperfections.
Anyway, there are plenty of thin women out there and that hasn’t made me get skinny. I don’t think sexbots are really gonna make much of a difference.
Dear MRAssholes: Stay the fuck away from my fandoms, okay? Pacific Rim is not for you.
This is just chilling. The more I think about it, the more horrifying the implications.
Well, if you view sex only as an exchange of goods, you wouldn’t really see the pleasure in it that you do now.
Also I think they imagine their sexbots to be a lot closer to the real deal than they could actually be.
What I can’t stop thinking about is that the guy apparently knows the exact weight of his date.
Does he have a questionaire that needs to be answered before he starts dating?
Hey, do you guys remember the Futurama episode, ‘I Dated a Robot’? Man, that was a great episode. Try to think about that and not the depressing fact that people like this exist.
It never ceases to amaze me the ridiculous complaints these guys waste their oxygen on.
I mean, in comparison, heterosexual women normally worry about men being potentially abusers, sexists, or rapists. Yet these guys are worried about… dun dun dun… FAT.
And even though I’d say the fear of being hurt outweighs the fear of, idk, loss of status amongst their BROS, you’d still never see women talking like this about men.
I would be appalled and horrified if I ever saw someone bring up eugenics as a solution to rape or sexism. But I guess being a category 6 kaiju is just that awful of an offense to these guys…
http://kotaku.com/dont-have-sex-with-this-robot-1733325956
Pepper won’t put out, and Pepper is only a 6/10 at best, how dare a robot have standards, what, you think you are too good for me 😉
How about if women send their sexbots out to work every day to make money? If AI can create a realistic sexbot for men, it can create a realistic workerbot who makes a decent salary and is also hooked into an ATM network.
Of course, women being what they are, they’ll cheat on their steady, dependable betabuxbot with one of these bad boys:
http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00aBvEwCIGYeht/Six-Axis-Industrial-Robotics-Payload-170kg.jpg
I love that he gets really spooked by the presence of other people moving in different directions on a dance floor and flees in terror, screaming “MONSTERS!!! MONSTERS EVERYWHERE!!!” #soveryalpha
Nevermind, I’m tired. I don’t know why I thought there was anything about eugenics I guess this is only about robots lol.
Well my point still stands. I’d be appalled and horrified should anyone ever suggest men be replaced by robots to solve anything.
Too much shit going on today, my reading comprehension is shit.
I cannot wait for sex bots, as long as they don’t have any sentience/identity. Then maybe these assholes will do as they say they will and go get inanimate bots and stop bothering real women. Emphasis on inanimate and non-sentient… Not even an artificially intelligent sexbot deserves these creeps.
I don’t hold too much hope, but if these guys go with sex bots, maybe the rest of us Actual Human Beings can date each other peacefully in mutually respectful relationships..
Fatties don’t own the world therefore there is no need to be freed from fatties. The truth is fatties are suffering from the serious ill effects of there morbid obesity. Would an abundance of attractive sexbots with strong human like AI affect male female relationships, I think that goes without question. This would also have very significant effects on society in general.
Another question is will the fattie problem have better solutions by the time this is a reality? I think this would likely be true as to attain true human like AI would require an accurate understanding of how the human brain and associated systems work. Already the real cause of fatties is simple, eating too much food. Of coarse stopping humans from overeating is much harder in practice as the mechanisms in the brain are not completely understood and these mechanisms causing an excess of fatties are not directly controlled by higher brain functions its the other way around.
“I love that he gets really spooked by the presence of other people moving in different directions on a dance floor and flees in terror, screaming “MONSTERS!!! MONSTERS EVERYWHERE!!!” #soveryalpha”
(I’m so sorry I forgot how to make quotes or do anything here if someone could link me a guide that would be so nice)
But didn’t you read? He was only worried for his woman, rushing to protect her! Faced with danger, this brave man took a stand, and now he’s out there, ranting for what’s right, fighting the good fight…
If their future vision of sexbots comes indeed true, I can imagine the stream of complaints about beta-bots stealing jobs, robbing the real men of the opportunity to earn money to buy more sexbots. Not even honest american made beta-bots, no, mass produced foreign bots invading the workforce!
Wait…I, as a fat babe, get to be kaiju now? I CLAIM OTACHI!
I wondered about the weight thing, too. Even when I was a very active athlete and pretty skinny, I was at least 120, and I’m munchkin-short. There certainly are women who are around 100 pounds, but it’s a very specific body type. My guess is he’s assigning a small number to a lady he finds attractive on the assumption that he’s only attracted to very thin ladies, because logic.
@littletaeo – No, you’re right. One of the posters did suggest eugenics:
Yeaaah, good luck with that. PGD is most useful for monogenic disorders and chromosomal aberrations, not vague “predispositions”. And you can’t just pull a fertilized egg out of a woman’s body to run these tests. Is he suggesting everyone should routinely do IVF + PGD instead of traditional conception? Because holy cow, cha-ching. IVF is expensive, and so is PGD, and there’s no guarantee of successful implantation even with a chromosomally normal 5AA, 5-day blast. He’d be unnecessarily putting his wife through screening, hormone shots, daily monitoring, and a painful procedure. There’s also a slight and unknown risk to the embryo, because one of its cells has to be physically removed for testing.
That’s a pretty deep-seated fat phobia right there, if he’s willing to go through all that to avoid having overweight kids. Something tells me he’d be the kind of asshole dad who nags his daughters all the time about what they’re eating and how they should exercise more, while the sons get a free pass.
@littletaeo: Your reading comprehension is fine. This is a forum post from the article:
Your point that eugenics is a bad solution to things that are much, much worse than obesity is quite relevant.
Uh, CivAMATEUR, haven’t you forgotten something? It costs lots of money for women to look good. When no one has money anymore, everyone will look TERRIBLE. Scrawny limbs, sunken eyes, malnourished everything, unwashed hair, bad teeth, no more boobs…I have seen that future, and it will not be pretty!