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Dean Esmay: The white voice of black America?
Dean Esmay: The white voice of black America?

I don’t really intend to write about former A Voice for Men number two Dean Esmay as often as I do. But every time I so much as glance at his Twitter timeline, I find something so noxious and ridiculous it makes my head hurt. In other words, here we go again.

Yesterday Raquel Willis, who describes herself in her Twitter bio as a “black trans queer feminist media maven,” Tweeted pictures of Alice Walker and bell hooks alongside a comment criticizing those who think “black feminism/#womanism is just a way to keep the black man down.”

Mr. Esmay, a big ol’ white dude, saw her Tweet, and decided that he needed to put her straight on a few things. It wasn’t pretty.

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Yep, apparently Mr. Esmay has decided that he’s the voice of black America, or at least of America’s black men, and that for some reason it’s appropriate for him to call a black woman a “girl.”

Does Mr. Esmay have any reason to assume that Ms. Willis is especially privileged? He does not. He appears to know precisely nothing about her except her gender and her race.

The conversation continued, with Esmay quickly reduced to sputtering rage, spewing forth an assortment of his favorite epithets.

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He followed up with this, er, observation.

https://twitter.com/deanesmay/status/646836464739844096

Intersectionality, you’re doing it wrong.

But that’s not surprising. A lot of MRAs — and antifeminists generally — seize on the concept of intersectionality as a way, perversely, to avoid having to account for their privileges, deciding that any disadvantages or hardships they’ve ever faced automatically trump those of the genuinely less-privileged folks they so often find themselves arguing with.

Yes, Dean, you have a working class background. You have apparently faced hardships in your life. You are clearly not the most privileged white dude to ever be a white dude. But, as Willis notes, this doesn’t mean you don’t have privileges as a cis white person and. yes, as a man.

And it certainly doesn’t make you an expert on the lives of black people, even if you do co-host a regular YouTube “radio” show with a black man. Having a black friend does not give you the right to whitesplain black women about racial issues. His blackness has not rubbed off on you.

Naturally, MRAs like Esmay tend to think that their off-brand version of intersectionality-as-trump-card only applies to them. While Esmay often brings up the abuse he says he suffered as a child, and sometimes acts as though anyone who disagrees with him is thereby attacking all men who’ve suffered abuse, he regularly dismisses the abuse others have faced as irrelevant to their arguments.

Hell, he did this earlier today, in one of his many Tweets to the imaginary feminists living in his head:

https://twitter.com/deanesmay/status/647153936835719168

After his encounter with Willis yesterday, Esmay decided that he hadn’t said enough on the subject of privilege, and why white dudes like him should feel free to hurl abuse at black people they disagree with.

In a TwitLonger post titled Tips for addressing racist black people, especially of the #SocJus crowd, he wrote

I see so many white people and others getting flipped out because some black skinned person called them a racist or even called them privileged. Defensive whites (and their friends) seem to think arguing over this or that concept of “privilege,” or this or that thing with the ancestors and all that stuff you weren’t even here for is the way to go. It almost never is.

There’s a much easier way that almost always gets the abusive bully off of you. Just ask them who appointed them to speak for Black People.

Because nobody did. I mean, you know, they just didn’t. Or if they did, ask to see the election results.

That’s it. “You, sir or madam, are an idiot, and do not represent black people.”

Well, this last bit is true, up to a point. Willis no more speaks for all black people than Esmay speaks for all white people. But to jump from this fact to the conclusion that any random opinion Esmay has about the black community carries the same weight as hers is absurd.

Of course, Esmay isn’t interested in having a respectful debate; he’s looking for an excuse that will allow him to go around calling black women “racist bigots” because they point out his privilege as a white man.

Indeed, Esmay goes directly from the “you … do not represent black people” bit to this:

And by the way, feel free to call them an idiot. In fact, here are some other things you can call a black racist: asshole, fuckface, shithead, bigot, bitch, cunt, lowlife, piece of shit. You can call anyone you want of any race those things and it’s not racist. (Unless you only call them that I guess.)

Dean apparently thinks he’s invented the concept of white people calling black people names.

You know what most of these race-baiting racist people are really? Spoiled middle class brats who most of Black America can’t fucking stand anyway. If you notice they happen to be middle class, go out of your way to point that one out, because almost all these puffed up “You got white privilege!” fuckstains are privileged middle class brats who’ve never even had a real job. Fuck them. They aren’t worth your time.

Esmay’s final sentence is especially revealing:

And frankly, you might pick up a black friend or two along the way who was wondering when you were going to figure this shit out.

Ah, the proverbial “black friend.”

Because in a lot of ways that’s what this seems to be all about. Esmay has a black friend, and apparently thinks this makes him an expert on all things black.

Is there a term for this? “Black Friend Syndrome,” or something a bit more creative? There must be. But I don’t know what it is, because I’m a big ol’ white dude.

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leftwingfox
9 years ago

Is he just playing footsie with the Klan, or has he finally dived under the sheets with them?

amy
amy
9 years ago

He has gone full mra! You never go full mra.

Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

“I’m not racist, I have a black friend who tells me that this is okay! And My Black Friend™ says that you’re being a racist bigoted bitch because you’re calling me out on my privileges even though my life has been so hard!”

Okay, so who said your special black friend gets to speak for all black people, Dean-o? Who elected them the Speaker of the Black People, besides you?

Since, you know, you were saying that any PoC who disagrees with you isn’t representative of black people, especially when women and trans women speak up.

Days since an MRA has gravely misunderstood the concept of privilege: 0

DodoHunter
DodoHunter
9 years ago

What “abuse” did she commit exactly? Just finding him toxic? Because if that’s it, I’m abusive now too.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

called them a racist or even called them privileged.

Apparently, Dean thinks that having your privilege pointed out to is worse than being racist.

That says it all, really.

Angela
Angela
9 years ago

Alarmingly none of Esmay’s privileges seem to include appropriate psychiatric care. I’m not being ableist I’m genuinely concerned about his mental health and the possibility of him being a danger to himself and others.

Bella Button
Bella Button
9 years ago

Thank you for documenting this, David. Esmay seems to have left AVFM because he wanted to be free to outdo AVFM in racism and bigotry. It takes a special person to be able to be more bigoted than AVFM. I would like to apologize to Willis and tell her that Esmay is lashing out at many people online right now.He is fanatical and has no other occupation. He has libeled a number of women. The idea is to divert their energy from the work they are doing. They must not allow him to succeed. Women must continue their work and not be knocked off balance by these strategies.

tesformes
9 years ago

“Women and trans women?” Why are those separate, Paradox?

tesformes
9 years ago

Angela, please refer to the comments policy. We don’t do armchair diagnoses of mental illnesses here. It’s really damaging to people who are actually mentally ill, and dealing with that stigma, to be lumped in with people like Dean Esmay simply because he’s being an asshole. It hurts when people who try their hardest to be an asshole end up being shoved into the same category as you. A person with the kind of beliefs that Esmay has, who takes them to their logical conclusion and ignores the people that he’s stepping on along the way, will do things just like this, with no mental illness required. Just a lack of empathy for people who aren’t like them.

anon
anon
9 years ago

He sees white people flip out whenever racism is brought up?

Thanks for letting us know that you have a mirror Dean.

Catalpa
Catalpa
9 years ago

It says something that Esmay seems to think that calling someone a “cunt” is a completely non-bigoted thing to say.

RosaDeLava
RosaDeLava
9 years ago

Once I read a comment by this guy who said (not verbatim) that transgender people were more privileged than him (a white, cisgendered, staight guy), because of the “Die, cis scum” thing.

I don’t know what guys like that want.

(Has anyone called Esmay “D.Smay” before, by the way? I think it’s fitting, even if it is regretabbly cool sounding)

anemonerosie
9 years ago

I’d suggest Oppressed Friend Syndrome, or OFS. Pronounced Of-Shit, with the ‘t’ being mostly silent.

misseb47
misseb47
9 years ago

DodoHunter-I guess we all are abusive, then. 😉

Dean, it is not us. It’s YOU. YOU are the repulsive bigot here.

Cyberwulf
Cyberwulf
9 years ago

Urgh. Can Dean Esmay please fall into a hellish pit already?

Kat
Kat
9 years ago

@cyberwulf

Urgh. Can Dean Esmay please fall into a hellish pit already?

He’s already there. And he’s trying to drag us down there. Stay strong, people!

Dodom
Dodom
9 years ago

Maybe you could do like Shit Reddit Says and have a “low hanging fruit” policy: if *everything* a certain site or person says is appaling, it’s no use tracking them anymore.

mrex
mrex
9 years ago

(Lower) Middle Class people have never had a “real” job? Learn something new everyday.

Do we even want to take guesses as to what Esmay considers a “real” job?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
9 years ago

Maybe you could do like Shit Reddit Says and have a “low hanging fruit” policy: if *everything* a certain site or person says is appaling, it’s no use tracking them anymore.

It will always be worth reminding people that MRAs are still terrible people.

ImmunoGirl
ImmunoGirl
9 years ago

She went to my school! She was a year behind me. She’s had some great articles, including a few on Huffington Post. I’m so glad she has had success lately.

Also Dean Esmay is awful, but that was already established.

Bina
Bina
9 years ago

Whenever Deano accuses someone else of being racist, sexist, privileged, etc., just remember: He’s pointing one finger at them, and three more right back at himself.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
9 years ago

I’m white and I’m not ashamed to be white I just need to look at my privileges, help clean up of what my ancestors did and call out other white people who are being racist. It’s just seeing white people act like this.. saying it’s embarrassing and makes me sick is a enormous understatement.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
9 years ago

Is “Syndrome” an ableist term?

brooked
brooked
9 years ago

Has Dean actually ever voiced any class-based political beliefs outside of calling feminists spoiled, middle class, and/or rich bitches?

Just ask them who appointed them to speak for Black People.

Says the guy who spends every waking moment on Twitter claiming to speak for all men, boys, non-feminist women and abuse victims.

Defensive whites (and their friends) seem to think arguing over this or that concept of “privilege,” or this or that thing with the ancestors and all that stuff you weren’t even here for is the way to go. It almost never is.

Why bother with all that useless social, political and economic factor claptrap, or that dusty old boring history stuff. Just hurl abusive language at your critics, that works wonders.

.@AnthonyGillis @KeshmarOrange It's been female supremacy since Seneca Falls. It never, ever, EVER stopped being female supremacy.— Dean Esmay (@deanesmay) September 24, 2015

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Dude, I wasn’t even there for that stuff.

Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

tesformes | September 24, 2015 at 7:26 pm
“Women and trans women?” Why are those separate, Paradox?

The way my brain parsed my thoughts while typing that was that “trans women and cisgendered women have some different struggles they have to face, and it was made a big deal that this particular woman was trans” so I did separate them in that sentence. It wasn’t my intention to imply that trans women aren’t women, or are somehow lesser than cis women.

However, I would like to offer my apologies, and I will be mindful of that in the future.

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