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Roosh V: “Women Must Have Their Behavior And Decisions Controlled By Men.”

Hey Ladies! This man wants to be king of your castle
Hey Ladies! This man wants to be king of your castle

The repulsive pickup guru and wannabe philosopher of “neomasculinity” Roosh Valizadeh has long made it clear that he has a problem with women making decisions about their own lives, whether that decision is picking a college major — or saying “no” to sex with him.

In one notorious post, he explained to his readers that, as he sees it, a woman’s “no” pretty much never means “no.” Only if she uses the magic word “stop” does he stop. But he doesn’t think she really has a right to use that word, because, in his mind, once a woman “gives” him an erection, she owes it to him to finish the job.

“A man’s nut is sacred,” he wrote, “and for her to impede that should be criminal. I’m serious.”

Given all this, it perhaps should not come as a shock to hear that Roosh thinks women should have their right to make decisions taken away from them altogether, not just when he’s trying to get his “nut.”

In a blog post with the blunt title “Women Must Have Their Behavior And Decisions Controlled By Men,” Roosh sets forth his thesis:

After a long period in society of women having unlimited personal freedom to pursue life as they wish, they have shown to consistently fail in making the right decisions that prevent their own harm and the harm of others. Systems must now be put in place where a woman’s behavior is monitored and her decisions subject to approval of a male relative or guardian who understands what’s in her best interests better than she does herself.

As Roosh sees it, the whole “woman having control over their own lives” experiment has failed, and it is time to return to the good old-fashioned patriarchy that had previously served us so well. In this golden age, he writes, a woman

was not allowed to study any trivial topic she wanted, sleep with any man who caught her fancy, or uproot herself and travel the world because she wanted to “find herself.”

He’s really stuck on this whole women-choosing-their-own-college-majors thing.

And he’s also deeply offended by a woman’s right to take sexy selfies, interact with men in ways he does not approve of, watch TV shoes he doesn’t like, and, of course, with her ability to control what food goes in her mouth.

When a female lacks any urgent demands upon her survival, what behavior does she pursue? Obsessively displaying her half-naked body on the internet, flirting with men solely for attention, becoming addicted to corporate-produced entertainment, and over-indulging in food until her body shape is barely human. …

Once you give a woman personal freedom, like we have in the Western world, she enslaves herself to one of numerous vices and undertakes a rampage of destruction to her body and those who want to be a meaningful part of her life.

 

Never mind that men do all these things too, and that men in the US are actually more likely than women to be overweight or obese. Maybe men need to have their rights to make decisions about their own lives taken from them as well?

Roosh is also angry that women get to choose when they get pregnant, whom they marry, and whom they vote for — invariably choosing the candidate “who is more handsome and [who] promises unsustainable freebies that accelerate the decline of her country.”

Really? When I look at politicians in this country, “handsome” is not really the first word that comes to mind.

But never mind, because to Roosh this is all proof that a women’s right to make significant decisions about her life and the world should be taken away from her and handed over to the nearest man. Pretty much literally.

Men, on average, make better decisions than women. If you take this to be true, which should be no harder to accept than the claim that lemons are bitter, why is a woman allowed to make decisions at all without first getting approval from a man who is more rational and levelheaded than she is?

Lemons are sour, not bitter. But let’s ignore this little glitch in his logic and continue on,

So which men get to make decisions for women? As Roosh sees it, there are two possible ways his plan could work.

I propose two different options for protecting women from their obviously deficient decision making. The first is to have a designated male guardian give approval on all decisions that affect her well-being. Such a guardian should be her father by default, but in the case a father is absent, another male relative can be appointed or she can be assigned one by charity organizations who groom men for this purpose, in a sort of Boy’s Club for women.

She must seek approval by her guardian concerning diet, education, boyfriends, travel, friends, entertainment, exercise regime, marriage, and appearance, including choice of clothing. A woman must get a green light from her guardian before having sex with any man, before wearing a certain outfit, before coloring her hair green, and before going to a Spanish island for the summer with her female friends.

Roosh’s second “option” is just as flesh-crawlingly creepy.

A second option for monitoring women is a combination of rigid cultural rules and sex-specific laws. Women would not be able to attend university unless the societal need is urgent where an able-minded man could not be found to fill the specific position. Women would not be able to visit establishments that serve alcohol without a man present to supervise her consumption. Parental control software on electronic devices would be modified for women to control and monitor the information they consume. Credit card and banking accounts must have a male co-signer who can monitor her spending. Curfews for female drivers must be enacted so that women are home by a reasonable hour. Abortion for women of all ages must be signed off by her guardian, in addition to prescriptions for birth control.

Welcome to 1984, ladies! Big Brother will be watching you! Or perhaps your own big brother, if dad’s not available.

While Roosh acknowledges that “my proposals are undoubtedly extreme on the surface and hard to imagine implementing,” he thinks they’re necessary to protect Western Culture from the barbarians.

The barbarians, in Roosh’s scenario, are all those brown people from other countries who are entering our country.

Allowing women unlimited personal freedom has so affected birth rates in the West that the elite insists on now allowing importation of millions of third world immigrants from democratically-challenged nations that threaten the survival of the West.

Roosh declares that he’s making “these sincere recommendations not out of anger” but because they would be the best thing for Western Women, including the women in his own family. “They would not like it, surely,” he writes, “but due to the fact that I’m male and they’re not, my analytical decision-making faculty is superior to theirs .. .”

I’m not sure many people are going to be agreeing with you on that, dude. Your “analytical decision-making faculty” is pretty much shit.

Those who like to pretend that Roosh isn’t as terrible a person as he so clearly is may assume that he is being “satirical” here, as they said about his at-least-half-if-not-three-quarters serious proposal to supposedly end rape by making it legal on private property.

But these proposals are entirely consistent with the reactionary, misogynistic worldview Roosh has set forth in countless previous posts. Most of the commenters on his site, last I checked, were taking this post seriously, many of them agreeing with him.

And if that isn’t enough to convince you, Roosh himself states, in the top comment of his own post, that

this article is not satire in any way. I firmly stand behind the recommendations I made.

We can only hope that the increasingly blatant evidence of Roosh’s repugnant extremism ends up alienating his more casual readers, those who’ve somehow convinced themselves that his “teachings” simply offer awkward men “self-improvement” tips to help them navigate the dating world. Because he’s not a self-help guru; he’s a reactionary ideologue and rape-enabler with increasingly obvious neo-Nazi sympathies, pushing his own misogynistic brand of far-right hate.

Let’s do what we can to grease his inevitable slide into irrelevance.

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brian
brian
9 years ago

“Men, on average, make better decisions than women. If you take this to be true [ . . .] why is a woman allowed to make decisions at all without first getting approval from a man who is more rational and levelheaded than she is?”

Because pure “rationality” is not a sensible reason for one person to cede all control of their life over to another?
If you really believe in this line of reasoning, surely sex and gender has nothing to do with it: everyone should be subservient to anyone who can be proven to be more intelligent and “rational” than they are, and the world ought to be overseen by the single most intelligent person on the planet.
This sounds like a great premise for some dystopian young adult lit, which hopefully I will be able to sell to a film studio and turn it into the next “Hunger Games” but it sounds like a goddamn terrible way to actually live in the real world. Even if I accepted the premise that women make poor decisions and are less “rational” (for which your only support so far is your bald assertion) it does not follow from this that they should have their freedom taken away from them, any more than any other person of “lesser” intelligence should have less rights because of that.

tl;dr: what a bunch of bullshit. if anything, serves as evidence that Roosh has a below-average capacity for rational reasoning.

Turtle
Turtle
9 years ago

Roosh: more asshole than man. Sometimes it’s hard to believe that any person can be this shitty and still be allowed to breathe oxygen for free.

amy
amy
9 years ago

These guys constantly confuse feeling superior to being superior and emoting with rationality. All of first world countries have womens rights and all the 3rd world countries lack it. How delusional are these guys? Men make up majority of bankruptcies, drug and alcohol problems and crimes! You can turn this idiot upside down and you wont know where he shits from and where talks from!

JetGirl
JetGirl
9 years ago

I want to laugh, but this is exactly the kind of attitude held by ISIS, Boko Haram, the FLDS, Quiverfull… He wants “The Handmaid’s Tale” to come true, and it’s terrifying.

Shadow
Shadow
9 years ago

@brian

sounds like he read The Handmaid’s Tale and said “This sounds perfect!”

See, this is why modern feminists are known as evil, slanderous creatures!!! If I were David I would delete this comment before Roosh, rightfully, sues him for slander. As if it is even remotely likely that Roosh would ever read a book, let alone one written by an author who is so obviously female!! :P:P

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
9 years ago

@Shadow:

A Canadian woman, at that! Everyone knows that the Canadian establishment is utterly corrupt and controlled by wicked man-hating feminists!

rugbyyogi
rugbyyogi
9 years ago

Occasionally I think that no 18 yr old should be allowed to pick their own major, but then I think about my parents’ advice and they wouldn’t have made a much better choice. The only advice that turned out to be right was “take as much math as you can” when I seemed to be going on a bit of a humanities bent. They both ended up regretting not doing more math. I regret not doing enough statistics. They clearly didn’t do enough of a beat down on my brother who ended up doing very little math, despite a natural aptitude and got a fairly useless degree in history.

tralala
9 years ago

When Roosh dies, I am throwing an enormous party.

I’m not saying I wish death on anyone. I am saying I hope I get to throw an enormous party in the not-too-distant future.

Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

rugbyyogi | September 24, 2015 at 2:13 am
Occasionally I think that no 18 yr old should be allowed to pick their own major, but then I think about my parents’ advice and they wouldn’t have made a much better choice.

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Amy
Amy
9 years ago

Menfolk, I am so, so sorry that this piece of vaguely humanoid garbage attempts to speak for you and superficially resembles you to the least degree. Most of you are kind, decent human beings. Roosh isn’t a bad apple in the bunch… He’s a piece of dog poo in the apple barrel. My condolences. I know y’all are mostly nothing like this creep.

Hipsterminator
9 years ago

You got some great logic there Roosh.

So, women should not flirt with random men in public or show themselves half naked on social media, yet when Roosh gets an erection from some random girl, it’s her duty to finish the job. What about asking permission from her father or older male relative?

Seriously Roosh, why did your parents leave Iran? Did you ever consider moving to Afghanistan? I think you would like it there. No sluts, no alcohol, no women behaving badly, going to college or talking to strangers without their husbands or male relatives present.

I guess you’re proud of yourself after winning the Battle of Montreal.

Hipsterminator
9 years ago

This sounds like a great premise for some dystopian young adult lit, which hopefully I will be able to sell to a film studio and turn it into the next “Hunger Games”

Call it “The Thirst Games” and make it about guys jacking off to porn and then whining when they’ve no energy left to score with Jennifer Lawrence so they call her a Leftist Feminist.

http://www.rooshv.com/the-male-thirst-epidemic-is-primarily-caused-by-porn

Andrewould
Andrewould
9 years ago

This Roosh ahole should fuck off to ISIS controlled Syria and Iraq. He will feel right at home.

Wetherby
Wetherby
9 years ago

“Male thirst epidemic”? Men have been horny since they first crawled out of the primordial swamp – it’s a hard-wired biological imperative.

The only difference is that in some present-day societies finding a mate involves more work, because the potential mates in question have far better bullshit detectors than they used to – but there’s a simple solution to this, which is don’t spout bullshit in the first place.

Granted, such a policy, if widely adopted, would render “game” immediately redundant, but I think I can accept that level of collateral damage.

spacelawn
9 years ago

I wonder what his familiy thinks of him, they gotta know about this bullshit to some degree.

michael_the_rabbit
michael_the_rabbit
9 years ago

Why Roosh and his pals hate Muslims (“brown people”) so much? They hold literally identical beliefs about women and their proper role in society.

Robert Kelly
9 years ago

Now I’m wondering if the male thirst epidemic can be averted with liberal application of bottles of Sprite.

Jenny (@dontgiveah00t)

I agree with others above – Roosh is desperate to stay relevant, so here he is telling his more extreme readers exactly what they want to hear: that they have the right to absolutely control a woman and anyone who would tell them otherwise is mean and stupid. Roosh knows, I’m certain, that this level of micromanaging another adult human being would be tiring and impractical for even the most ardently authoritarian man.

misseb47
misseb47
9 years ago

What a fucking douchecanoe. And MRAs say there is no such thing as the patriarchy? As far as I’m concerned, he is now even WORSE than Paul Elam in regards his hatred of women and the desire to control us. Not even Paulie dreams up this amount of control of women. Paul ‘just’ wants to bash us and doesn’t care if we are raped. Roosh thinks we are nothing more than brainless walking orifices, wants to rape us at will (as long as it is on private property it’s totes ok) and wants to control every aspect of our lives!! I am very certain he is projecting a hell of a lot, too. As we all know, he hasn’t got a good track record for making sound decisions. Maybe he wants women to micro manage him?

Oliver_C
Oliver_C
9 years ago

“Addicted to corporate-produced entertainment”? Sure Roosh, and you and your lackeys are Amish from the 19th century who’ve never bought a CD, DVD, movie ticket or paperback in your life.

“Women vote for the most handsome candidate”? I’m pretty sure it was British men in 1997 who chose dashing Tony Blair over grey John Major by a large margin, and I’m pretty sure there are countless similar instances…

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
9 years ago

Women, left to their own devices, will childishly and selfishly pursue gratification. This has to be stopped so Roosh can pursue gratification. It’s his natural birthright.

What more rational, analytical decision-making entity is there than Roosh’s boner?

kylagb
9 years ago

The most bizarre thing is, we already had a society pretty much like this before women’s emancipation came along. Women could not take out a loan, freely get education, work etc. !!!
The crux is, some men, and not all are as outspoken as this, just don’t like losing there top position in society, the position they used to occupy. They don’t want to lose their power. The Roosh’s of the world feel powerless.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
9 years ago

Anyone want to start betting on how long before we see an Islamic State, Taliban, or Boko Haram propaganda video with an “al-Washingtoni” railing against degenerate western feminism?

I doubt those groups would want to ally themselves with some non-Muslim who just hates women and gays. It’s pretty clear that Roosh Isn’t a “real” Muslim, not the least because he apparently comes from a Shi’a family. For Sunni extremists (or Islamic State, at least), the Shi’a are heretics and worse than your average infidel. They might not accept Roosh even if he genuinely converted to Sunni Islam.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
9 years ago

H G Wells wrote ‘war of the worlds’ to examine that very concept of what would happen if an outside intelligence thought they knew best.

This was in relation to colonialism, but the same principles apply.

[He also had a bit of a downer about Bromley, which is why it’s the first place that gets blown up]

Jo
Jo
9 years ago

Is anyone else reminded of the classic Onion article ‘Marilyn Manson Now Going Door-To-Door Trying To Shock People’?

Roosh is just as terrible whether he believes this stuff or is just saying outrageous crap for attention, but I have to say I lean towards the latter. His REAL audience seems to be Jezebel and Buzzfeed editors looking for outrage-bait stories to write, thus giving him more traffic and Google juice, which in turn means more ad revenue.