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His popularity waning, Paul Elam tells MRAs who hate him that he doesn’t want them anyway

I can't HEAR you!
I can’t HEAR you!

It’s not exactly news, at least to long-time readers of this site, that A Voice for Men’s tinpot dictator Paul Elam can’t take criticism — especially when it comes from fellow Men’s Rights activists.

But who knew Elam was so allergic to criticism that he would declare that MRAs who expressed any sort of uneasiness with that embarrassing video he posted to YouTube earlier this week, featuring a drunken Elam and a small group of equally drunken acolytes making crude sexual remarks about two prominent feminist writers, were a bunch of “cowards, cunts [and] concern trolls” who would no longer be welcome at AVFM.

Elam first responded to critics of the video with another video of his own, a 43-minute long rant mostly aimed at MRAs who dared to suggest that his earlier video might not have been a great PR move for the Men’s Rights movement. (I will likely have more on that in a future post; in the meantime I’d recommend checking out Laughing Witch’s two long but rewarding videos on the subject.)

But he wasn’t done. And so, on Saturday, he put up a followup post telling his critics that he was excommunicating them from the Men’s Rights movement, and would be banning them from AVFM forthwith. Naturally, Elam being Elam, he phrased it a good deal less politely.

The time for AVFM giving a platform, even in comments, to spineless prigs, feminists and pearl clutching “MHRAs” who want to play nice with feminists, is about to come to a very abrupt end. To put it more clearly, this is now hostile ground for cowards, cunts and concern trolls — the living refuse of digested gynocentrism. … this is not a place for pussies of either sex.

As Elam sees it, there’s only a tiny handful of real MRAs in the world; the rest are pretty much useless “deadweight.”

I estimate (very roughly) that there are about 300 actual MHRAs in the world, not including the very high numbers of activists in India. I also estimate (less roughly) that about a third of those 300 people are either on AVFM staff, write for us or are financial supporters. I also know a handful of people who actually cannot work on our staff and cannot afford to subscribe who nonetheless give moral and brotherly support that makes them as valuable as any working activist.

Here’s the deal. We have thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of people every day come to this website. If 2%, or even 1% of them either subscribed or volunteered, we would be ten times as powerful and effective today than we are.

Apparently the quickest way to become one of these “actual MHRAs” is to agree with Elam about everything — and write him a nice big check.

Instead of trying to win the hearts and minds of the MRAs who disagree with him, much less the broader public, Elam has decided instead to tell them all to fuck off.

And if they don’t get that not-so-subtle hint, he’ll just ban them from his site outright:

The sad fact is (and don’t be offended if this does not apply to you), our comments and emails reflect a way too large population of slacktivists who whine about the free beer not being cold enough and who think that sanctimonious armchair quarterbacking of the service others provide makes them an MHRA.

It does not. They are just people who agree with the actual activists but prove it by droning on about how “we” should do things differently, like we are some sort of fucking juke box that does not require any coins.

Yep, he’s really steamed that people aren’t handing over their unemployment checks to him any more. (Allegedly.)

Most of their suggestions tend to be around toning down and being a little less hostile, especially to feminists. They call it diplomacy. I call it gynocentric cowardice.

These clowns have been given free room and board at AVFM for far too long.

Therefore BAN. Elam hasn’t worked out all the details, but

gynocentric cowards who come here to tell us how “we” should be doing things better be damn sure that the word “we” actually includes them. If not, their armchair wisdom, along with their IP, will get shit-canned on the spot.

Not only will they be banned from comments; they’ll also be forbidden from reading all the articles, with “access to some, a good bit actually, of site content … restricted to activists.”

Huh. Seems like just the other day Elam was announcing that he was trying to broaden the appeal of the site by reposting articles from Examiner.com on “men’s interests” like eyewear of the future and the evolutionary history of the yeast.

Elam declared that the new outward-looking strategy was a sign of AVFM’s great success in changing public discourse, and “the future for how AVFM pushes the counter-theory.”

Now he’s done a 180 degree turn … and is promoting an inward-looking strategy as AVFM’s future.

AVFM’s strategic about-faces have gotten as dizzying as those of the US Communist Party in World War II.

So what’s behind this new approach besides Elam’s anger at the widespread criticism he’s gotten from other MRAs for his drunken video?

A cynical person might suggest that Elam is doing his best to put a positive spin on the fact that he seems to be reaching the final seconds of his 15 minutes of fame. His narcissistic rage-fits have alienated most of his potential allies and followers in the Men’s Rights world. And traffic to his site seems to be dropping, at least according to the highly imperfect metrics of Alexa.

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Elam is already doing his best to spin a drop in traffic as a really good thing, honest, youbetcha.

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Seriously, take a look at this desperate spin:

AVFM is taking another major, visible step forward toward the completion of our mission. We will see that evidenced by a drop in traffic to this site.

No, he really did write that. Comparing the future AVFM to a party after “the free beer dries up,” Elam declares that his new approach

will mean a drop in traffic. We don’t care. To repeat, AVFM used to live and breathe by Page Rank and Alexa. We worked by drawing in as many people as possible, regardless of who they were and we performed well at it. …

Now we are moving into a new mode, not caring so much about drawing in people but in drawing in activists.

With Elam’s version of”activism” essentially defined as “agreeing with him and sending him money,” it’s becoming even more clear that former AVFM Number Two Dude Dean Esmay was telling the truth when, in an unintentionally revealing slip of the tongue, he told one feminist that AVFM was “a group of volunteers dedicated to a cause, and the cause is Paul Elam.”

Best of luck with your little cult, Paul, as it becomes littler.

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Hank_Says
5 years ago

Ha! How I love watching these fuckwits implode. It’s not just the schadenfreude, it’s that every time one of these bellowing idiots sounds his barbaric yawp across the rooftops of the internet in the aftermath of a schism, they demonstrate in glorious HD that the criticism they receive from non-MRAs is entirely justified.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

These guys are always so concerned about their frozen peaches, but some of the easiest sites to get banned from seem to be AVFM and ROK.

MovieBuff
5 years ago

Are there really a lot more real “MHRAs” in India? I hope not!!

Bonelady
Bonelady
5 years ago

The man definitely does not take criticism well, to say the least. Not a good trait for someone trying to grow a movement. I’ll be interested to see where the MRA movement stands a few months from now.

Flora
Flora
5 years ago

“not a good trait for someone trying to grow a movement”

You assume he actually is trying to promote a cause apart from the Give Paul Elam Your Money Fund.

RosaDeLava
RosaDeLava
5 years ago

300 MRAs? I guess this is how Paul Elam sees himself, then
. http://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_original/5/8/5/5108585.jpg

Subtract Hominem, the Renegade Misandroid
Subtract Hominem, the Renegade Misandroid
5 years ago

gynocentric cowards who come here to tell us how “we” should be doing things better be damn sure that the word “we” actually includes them. If not, their armchair wisdom, along with their IP, will get shit-canned on the spot.

Not only will they be banned from comments; they’ll also be forbidden from reading all the articles, with “access to some, a good bit actually, of site content … restricted to activists.

PAYWALLING IS ACTIVISM

AVFM is taking another major, visible step forward toward the completion of our mission. We will see that evidenced by a drop in traffic to this site.

UNPOPULARITY IS SUCCESS

To put it more clearly, this is now hostile ground for […] the living refuse of digested gynocentrism. … this is not a place for pussies of either sex.

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

RosaDeLava
RosaDeLava
5 years ago

Now that I think about it, I think I should have posted the image as a link (though I don’t know how to do it). David, you can remove and edit comments, right? If the image bothers anyone, can you do that?

epitome of incomprehensibility

@RosaDeLava & @Subtract Hominem – :)!

Also, “this is not a place for pussies of either sex” got me thinking… while it’s bizarre enough that French and English both have this weird call-a-vagina-a-word-for-a-cat thing going on, why the hell is “pussy” used as a synonym for wimpy, too?

Never mind. I’m pretty sure the reasoning goes “People with vaginas are all women and women are naturally wimpy.” 🙁

But I’m curious about the cat connection. Cats don’t seem wimpy, generally speaking.

Tara the Antisocial Social Worker
Tara the Antisocial Social Worker
5 years ago

“I estimate (very roughly) that there are about 300 actual MHRAs in the world, not including the very high numbers of activists in India.”

I’m still trying to figure out how India wouldn’t count as part of “the world.”

Moocow
Moocow
5 years ago

Omg, laughing witch’s video is awesome. If only it wasn’t so nauseating to listen to Paul Elam rant about how ‘them hypocritical SJWs are calling me gay’, then accidently use an abelist slur as part of his rant.

decourse
decourse
5 years ago

A Voice For (a steadily decreasing number of) Men

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

Wow, I didn’t know about the men’s rights movement in India. Wikipedia has a page devoted to it, which I skimmed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men's_rights_movement_in_India

What I already knew was that women in India are often treated very badly (dowry burnings, gang rape, less access to education, and so on). So these Indian MRAs want to make sure that Indian women stay horribly oppressed.

Marketplace India is a fair trade organization helping Indian women to improve their lives. They sell beautiful, unique clothing, curtains, and such, made by female Indian artisans. Everything is hand dyed and the clothing is often embroidered.

http://www.marketplaceindia.com

J^3 (@JoeKlemmer)
5 years ago

@SH,tRM

He’s the quintessential Orwellian. Can’t wait to hear him say, “AVFM is Doubleplus Good! And we are, and have always been, at war with Oceania.”

Catalpa
Catalpa
5 years ago

Wait, didn’t Elam previously say that AVFM’s entire goal was to be a place where men could make their voices heard, and discuss misogynistic beliefs important men’s rights? Now he’s not even doing that?

raysa
raysa
5 years ago

When hateful people form a group, it’s impossible for the hate to stay directed outward.

People that hate, really LOVE to hate. They are happiest when they are hating. It should be no surprise to anyone in a hate filled group when the hate gets turned onto people in that same group.

It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when they start to consume each other. But they will eventually turn on each other, that’s the nature of it. And no one will be surprised, except for them.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

AVFM has been an enormous, inarguable success at throwing a wrench in the droning cultural narrative about sexual politics. Feminism is now a galactic level joke,

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7liywYAJ71qzk95a.gif

and despite the fact that it still does serious damage to society,

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And no, hurting your fee-fees by telling you you can’t beat women doesn’t count.

we have been freed to address the underlying problem — gynocentrism.

You mean the fact that feminists are focusing on women and not the menz?

That’s literally all Paulie’s upset about. WE FEMINISTS ARE SPENDING TOO MUCH TIME ON THE SILLY WIMMENZ AND NOT ALL OUR TIME ON THE MENZ! MISANDRY!

Though, I’m laughing so hard at the fact that he’s paywalling his site because he doesn’t think that the peeps who are saying “Hey, maybe you’re handling this wrong?” do enough to support him.

What a baby. A creepy, whiny, selfish manbaby.
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Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Aw, damn.

The second image is supposed to be this:
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CCD
CCD
5 years ago

Ten times 0% powerfulness and effectiveness is still… 0%, Paul.

I also find it adorable how he calls other people slacktivists. Isn’t this the guy who proclaimed that he had no interest in trying to get any legislation changed, or to sway any politicians? Nevermind that that’s a big part in solving the issues which he claims MRAs fight for?

I really wish a more decent men’s movement, one which doesn’t try to tear down women and feminism to build themselves up, but actually tackles the real issues, would form and speak up, Someone needs to present an alternative group on the subject, to make MRAs as we know them look like even bigger fools about men’s issues than feminists already make them look. We need the good men, the informed men, to step up and make people like Paul obsolete. Feminism does help men in a roundabout way, but it doesn’t address all of men’s woes, nor should it be held responsible for them. They would also need to come up with a different label than MRA or MHRA, because those are forever tainted.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

@epitome of incomprehensibility:
It’s the same in Mayan: the word for cat is “Mis”, which is also used as slang for female genitals. Apparently Guatemalans who speak Mayan find it hilarious that Anglophone women call themselves “Miss.”

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

@CCD:
Back in the day, Ally Fogg used to run a really good blog exploring that same point. I haven’t read it for years but you may want to check it out.

skiriki
5 years ago

@raysa:

When hateful people form a group, it’s impossible for the hate to stay directed outward.

Ain’t that the fuckin’ truth.

skiriki
5 years ago

Re: pussy —

There’s a possibility that it comes from “pusillanimous” (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pusillanimous — this is what I usually see when dudebros want to explain that the word is totes not sexist), but the definition of “pussy” (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pussy — see #3) suggests it comes from “pussycat”. But when you circle back to “pussycat” (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pussycat) you should check definition #2 — “a person who has a kind and gentle nature” & “one that is weak, compliant, or amiable”

In Finnish dialects, “mirri” means “cat” (with connotation of a female cat), and in slang, it of course means “pussy”.

In an interesting twist of things (see #2 definition and etymology for pussy in link provided above), “pussi” means “bag”, and the slang meaning is “testicles or scrotum”.

Which makes this image kind of confusing for people right now:
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Jussipussi_2d119e_1048792.jpg

But not as confusing as this:
http://i.imgur.com/e36NXo3.jpg

ColeYote
ColeYote
5 years ago

The sad fact is (and don’t be offended if this does not apply to you), our comments and emails reflect a way too large population of slacktivists who whine about the free beer not being cold enough and who think that sanctimonious armchair quarterbacking of the service others provide makes them an MHRA.

(I hope that’s how I do that) Uh, Paul? “Slacktivists who whine about the free beer not being cold enough” describes a good portion of your fanbase, your employees, and yourself.

ColeYote
ColeYote
5 years ago

Hooray, I figured out the blockquote function!

ljy2008
5 years ago

The guy’s an outright sociopath. Every fiber of his being is dedicated to furthering his own interests and his own causes.

His way of dealing with dissent is to bully people into submission rather than attempt to understand the points they are making and take on board some of the concerns of his followers.

Surely they must start to wake up now. Surely!

dhag85
5 years ago

Paulie has already stated that the only activism the MRM does is scream at people on the internet. I’ve never heard of an MRA who doesn’t do that. So what’s Paulie’s problem?

dhag85
5 years ago

Off topic, this Ahmed/clock thing has finally made me swear off Real Time/Maher for life. I’ve been hatewatching it for years just because I like the format, but this was the nail in the coffin. Of all the dumb things Maher has said, this has to be one of the worst.

Also, I feel reassured when reading through comments from Maher’s fans on youtube and twitter. It’s just full of sexist and homophobic slurs, with straight up Nazi stuff mixed in. This reminds me a lot of when Thunderf00t started his feminism-related meltdown and his comment sections suddenly were indistinguishable from an Alex Jones video. In fact, his fanbase now has a huge overlap with fundamentalist Christians and conspiracy theorists of the lizard people kind.

It makes me smile on the inside, knowing that a self-professed “liberal” like Maher must know that his fans are hateful bigots because those are the people he appeals to. And a self-professed “rational thinker” like Thunderf00t appeals mostly to people who believe in magic. I love it.

Catalpa
Catalpa
5 years ago

…All these languages equate female genitals with cats? …Why? What connection do vaginas and cats have, to have so many cultures associate them with each other? Is it because they’re naturally fuzzy and nice to stroke?

Or are vaginas known for their ability to hunt and kill small birds and rodents? My vagina has certainly never displayed that capability before. Apparently there are all these people who have vaginas that can hunt mice, or be used like hands, or can provide literary critique, and I’m stuck with an orifice that just spits blood all over everything every month? I want a refund.

Lady Mondegreen
Lady Mondegreen
5 years ago

skiriki, I’m pretty sure the etymology of “pussy” (meaning cowardly or weak) is misogynist.

I do love seeing the trope undermined. 🙂

“I never understood why people say “grow some balls” ???? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. ???? Those things can take a pounding.” –(stand-up comic Sheng Wang, sometimes incorrectly attributed to Betty White)

-also-

http://obeythekitty.blogspot.com/2008/06/chairman-meow-says-fight-like-pussies.html?m=1

spacelawn
5 years ago

The plot thickens! Somebody should make a movie (hehe…) or write a book about this! That would be exciting.

Off-topic, who is that kid that whose face is plastered everywhere David?

Lady Mondegreen
Lady Mondegreen
5 years ago

@Catalpa

” Or are vaginas known for their ability to hunt and kill small birds and rodents? My vagina has certainly never displayed that capability before.”

Pfft, gurl, you have to let it practice! Start it out on some of those little furry play mice. If it shows any aptitude, encourage it. Before you know it, you’ll have to put bells on it to protect songbirds!

spacelawn
5 years ago

@Lady Mondegreen

Not to sound like #Notallmen (although i sound just like that) but i have a feeling that saying pussy stems from cats (kinda like bitch, a female dog) and has (or probably had) nothing to do with the nether region.

But that was probably not what Elam or many others are thinking :/

CCD
CCD
5 years ago

@Catalpa, just spitballing, here, but I would guess that it started with one dominant culture (white and colonial, most likely), and the association between the two got translated and spread to others.

skiriki
5 years ago

@Catalpa: Well… um…

http://chaoslife.findchaos.com/snogging-snafu

😀

@Lady Mondegreen: pretty sure about that as well, but dudebros keep swearing up and down that it isn’t. Who do I believe, them or my lying eyes totes telling lies?

Moggie
Moggie
5 years ago

AVFM is taking another major, visible step forward toward the completion of our mission. We will see that evidenced by a drop in traffic to this site.

It’s just like Spinal Tap!

Lady Mondegreen
Lady Mondegreen
5 years ago

@spacelawn,

(Puts on Serious Hat) I don’t really know. I do know that a lot of younger men don’t associate it with vaginas. But knowing how ubiquitous the association between “women” and “weakness” is, my guess is that that’s where it came from.

Wikipedia is no help here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy

But IIRC I looked it up once before and found that the connection with “cowardly” is uncertain.

LordCrowstaff
LordCrowstaff
5 years ago

Internet activism is what we do! We don’t need to build no shelters or change no laws!

But all y’all coming here to just read and not do anything, fuck off! This isn’t your site!

@regarding the pussy discussion: there is a similiar thing in Germany, strangely enough.

Also, every few days I have to rescue my wive’s vagina because it climbed a tree and couldn’t get down.

brooked
brooked
5 years ago

“AVFM has been an enormous, inarguable success” Heh.

And what brought these amazing advances? Well apparently AVFM invented anti-feminism six years ago and now titans like Milo and Sargon are kicking it to overdrive.

Those changes are now made easier by the fact that people like Milo Y., Sargon, members of #gamergate, sites like Brietbart and a growing collection of others who have suddenly found religion and “discovered” the feculent realities of modern feminism are recognizing issues we have been addressing for six years. As our intellectual offspring they are making good hay of it on robust platforms. Perhaps in time they will catch up to our work again when they figure out a few things about gynocentrism.

An AVFM superfan in the comments is all in when it comes to fanciful history of made up triumphs:

In the last three or four years I have seen feminism go from being the only voice, to being questioned at every level. AVFM was the spearhead of that change through open disagreement. The first line of feminism’s defence has been breached and new tactics are needed to take the fight futher.

saitonexus
5 years ago

My word, I did not mean to not post here for quite this long but um… oh well.

While reading the various nonsensical rantings of Paul “if the site traffic is down that means we’re winning!” Elam. I thought of a couple of amusing things, specifically from his comments about “slacktivists” and people who criticize or suggest but don’t donate or work, and his declaration of massive banhammering for the future. These things are noteworthy mainly in light of how these people (and others who support their ideology) tend to interact with feminists and “SJWs”.

One: the “slacktivists” comment. The implication is “don’t come at us and try to talk about what you think we should be doing unless you’re ready to be BOOTS ON THE GROUND out there doing aggressive activism and advancing the cause! Or at least donating!” I find this funny because of how often anti-feminist types respond to feminists by demanding to know “what have YOU actually done to improve the lives of women in (some non-western country, usually in the middle east)?? You’re just sitting here on Tumblr pretending to be an activist!”

Apparently MRAs throw that shit at each other too!

Two: with the promise of massive banhammers, the subtle (not really, actually) implication is that what this is REALLY all about is Elam saying “don’t criticize me or my friends/main allies in any way or you go on the shitlist.” This is again amusing in light of the tactics they use when arguing with feminists and social justice activists on Tumblr. Think of how many times you have seen the accusation of wearing ideological blinkers and just shouting down those who “hold a different opinion” and being part of an “echo chamber” etc etc lobbed toward feminists.

Then again, blatant hypocrisy from this crowd really shouldn’t be surprising.

Hooray, I figured out the blockquote function!

I am still pretty new to commenting here, but I have not been blockquote monster’d yet! We’ll see if that changes…

@dhag85 – wait what, what did Maher say? Not that I’m any fan of his, in fact I don’t watch/listen to him much at all, but I’m curious. Especially with how disturbing that whole situation with Mohamed and the clock was in general. Racism and Islamophobia don’t get much more blatant.

saitonexus
5 years ago

I looked up the Maher thing. Ugh. Ugh ugh ugh.

It doesn’t matter if it “looked like a fucking bomb” or not. The school and the cops clearly did not – DID NOT – actually think it was a bomb. Period.

Or, alternatively, if they truly DID, then it was the worst handling of a suspected bomb incident in the history of the world. No evacuations, no bomb squad, no safety measure of ANY kind taken by ANYONE. I’d love Maher or any other fuckwad defending the actions of the school and cops as “reasonable” to explain that.

HOWEVER, possibly far worse was the display of Islamophobia he displayed. He practically blamed Muslims for all the death and destruction in the world. By his logic, all Christians should be regarded with suspicion and hostility because of the actions of pe-

Wait, he’s an atheist who views all religion as destructive, so instead I’ll say, by his logic, all atheists and agnostics should be regarded with suspicion and hostility because of the actions of people like Kim Jong Il and Jeffrey Dahmer.

I used to just mildly dislike him. But now, fuck him. If anyone needs a demonstration of the concept of the harmful, not-actually-progressive “white liberal”, there you go.

cretaceouskitteh78
cretaceouskitteh78
5 years ago

HAHAHA! The only way any of those guys’ dicks are getting sucked voluntarily without money changing hands is if they meet a poor soul who’s been lost in the desert for 3 days and just happen to have a dick full of cool, spring water with which to quench a mighty thirst.

Well make it four days. Still would have to be extra desperate. Because fucking GAG!

Kootiepatra
5 years ago

Those changes are now made easier by the fact that people like Milo Y., Sargon, members of #gamergate…

I like to imagine that this was written in the following manner:

“Okay, time to list all of our illustrious allies: ‘…people like Milo Yannup…’ wait, something’s wrong here. ‘Yianolu….’ Gah. Greek is hard. ‘Yeahno…’ Oh, screw it. ‘Milo Y.’

“All right, and there’s that other guy. What was it, Sargon of Arcades? Sargon of Archimedes? Sargon the Archbishop… You know what? Never mind. ‘Sargon.’

“And next, of course, we’ve got Owen and Aurini—well, wait, I guess they’re not a good example right now. What about those folks from Airplay—no, that was a catastrophe, too. Whatever. I’ll just put ‘members of #gamergate’.”

I mean, overall, not only is this a list of questionable allies, it’s a lazy, shorthanded list of questionable allies.

kylagb
5 years ago

@moviebuff and anyone else. Yes indeed there is a group in India. I know it’s wiki put I attached it anyways.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Save_Indian_Family_Foundation

One of their complaints is against criminalizing marital rape as that will apparently cause the breakdown of marriage.

kylagb
5 years ago

I think a little adjustment to a Beatles lyric is in order regarding Paul Elam
“I’m a loser
And I am what I appear to be”

sn0rkmaiden
5 years ago

‘There will be no time, patience or tolerance for non-hackers.’

So, is Elam admitting that being an AVFM activist involves hacking? Isn’t that illegal? Should he be so openly admitting such activity?

kylagb
5 years ago

sn0rkmaiden. Should he be so openly dense, yes. 🙂

S.G. Alex
S.G. Alex
5 years ago

This has been going around Facebook and says it pretty well:

I said: it’s sad they thought that kid had a bomb.

She said: they didn’t think he had a bomb.

I said: yes, they thought he made a bomb and even called the police.

She said: They just wanted to humiliate a little Muslim boy. They didn’t think he had a bomb.

I said: Don’t be a conspiracy theorist. They might be a little prejudiced, but I’m sure they thought he had a bomb.

She said: OK.

But they didn’t evacuate the school, like you do when there’s a bomb.

They didn’t call a bomb squad – like you do when there’s a bomb.

They didn’t get as far away from him as possible, like you do when there’s a bomb.

Then they put him and the clock in an office, not like you do when there’s a bomb.

Then they waited with him for the police to arrive, and then they put the clock in the same car as the police.

Then they took pictures of it.

I said: Damn…..

They never thought he had a bomb.

Vanir (@Vanir85)
5 years ago

Then: “Whining on the net is not a bug, it’s a feature – the ONLY feature – it’s what AVFM is FOR! Now give me your money!”

Now: “How dare you just sit and whine on the internet? Get your boots on the GROUND or get OUT! Now give me your money!”

Talk about a 180, except for the part that’s ALWAYS the same with Paulie 🙂

Newt
Newt
5 years ago

I have seen feminism go from being the only voice, to being questioned at every level.

This commenter looks so close to reaching a revelation — that every advance feminism has made has been questioned by *someone*, every step of the way — but they’re too caught up in pride at being the current roadblock.