
It’s not exactly news, at least to long-time readers of this site, that A Voice for Men’s tinpot dictator Paul Elam can’t take criticism — especially when it comes from fellow Men’s Rights activists.
But who knew Elam was so allergic to criticism that he would declare that MRAs who expressed any sort of uneasiness with that embarrassing video he posted to YouTube earlier this week, featuring a drunken Elam and a small group of equally drunken acolytes making crude sexual remarks about two prominent feminist writers, were a bunch of “cowards, cunts [and] concern trolls” who would no longer be welcome at AVFM.
Elam first responded to critics of the video with another video of his own, a 43-minute long rant mostly aimed at MRAs who dared to suggest that his earlier video might not have been a great PR move for the Men’s Rights movement. (I will likely have more on that in a future post; in the meantime I’d recommend checking out Laughing Witch’s two long but rewarding videos on the subject.)
But he wasn’t done. And so, on Saturday, he put up a followup post telling his critics that he was excommunicating them from the Men’s Rights movement, and would be banning them from AVFM forthwith. Naturally, Elam being Elam, he phrased it a good deal less politely.
The time for AVFM giving a platform, even in comments, to spineless prigs, feminists and pearl clutching “MHRAs” who want to play nice with feminists, is about to come to a very abrupt end. To put it more clearly, this is now hostile ground for cowards, cunts and concern trolls — the living refuse of digested gynocentrism. … this is not a place for pussies of either sex.
As Elam sees it, there’s only a tiny handful of real MRAs in the world; the rest are pretty much useless “deadweight.”
I estimate (very roughly) that there are about 300 actual MHRAs in the world, not including the very high numbers of activists in India. I also estimate (less roughly) that about a third of those 300 people are either on AVFM staff, write for us or are financial supporters. I also know a handful of people who actually cannot work on our staff and cannot afford to subscribe who nonetheless give moral and brotherly support that makes them as valuable as any working activist.
Here’s the deal. We have thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of people every day come to this website. If 2%, or even 1% of them either subscribed or volunteered, we would be ten times as powerful and effective today than we are.
Apparently the quickest way to become one of these “actual MHRAs” is to agree with Elam about everything — and write him a nice big check.
Instead of trying to win the hearts and minds of the MRAs who disagree with him, much less the broader public, Elam has decided instead to tell them all to fuck off.
And if they don’t get that not-so-subtle hint, he’ll just ban them from his site outright:
The sad fact is (and don’t be offended if this does not apply to you), our comments and emails reflect a way too large population of slacktivists who whine about the free beer not being cold enough and who think that sanctimonious armchair quarterbacking of the service others provide makes them an MHRA.
It does not. They are just people who agree with the actual activists but prove it by droning on about how “we” should do things differently, like we are some sort of fucking juke box that does not require any coins.
Yep, he’s really steamed that people aren’t handing over their unemployment checks to him any more. (Allegedly.)
Most of their suggestions tend to be around toning down and being a little less hostile, especially to feminists. They call it diplomacy. I call it gynocentric cowardice.
These clowns have been given free room and board at AVFM for far too long.
Therefore BAN. Elam hasn’t worked out all the details, but
gynocentric cowards who come here to tell us how “we” should be doing things better be damn sure that the word “we” actually includes them. If not, their armchair wisdom, along with their IP, will get shit-canned on the spot.
Not only will they be banned from comments; they’ll also be forbidden from reading all the articles, with “access to some, a good bit actually, of site content … restricted to activists.”
Huh. Seems like just the other day Elam was announcing that he was trying to broaden the appeal of the site by reposting articles from Examiner.com on “men’s interests” like eyewear of the future and the evolutionary history of the yeast.
Elam declared that the new outward-looking strategy was a sign of AVFM’s great success in changing public discourse, and “the future for how AVFM pushes the counter-theory.”
Now he’s done a 180 degree turn … and is promoting an inward-looking strategy as AVFM’s future.
AVFM’s strategic about-faces have gotten as dizzying as those of the US Communist Party in World War II.
So what’s behind this new approach besides Elam’s anger at the widespread criticism he’s gotten from other MRAs for his drunken video?
A cynical person might suggest that Elam is doing his best to put a positive spin on the fact that he seems to be reaching the final seconds of his 15 minutes of fame. His narcissistic rage-fits have alienated most of his potential allies and followers in the Men’s Rights world. And traffic to his site seems to be dropping, at least according to the highly imperfect metrics of Alexa.
Elam is already doing his best to spin a drop in traffic as a really good thing, honest, youbetcha.
Seriously, take a look at this desperate spin:
AVFM is taking another major, visible step forward toward the completion of our mission. We will see that evidenced by a drop in traffic to this site.
No, he really did write that. Comparing the future AVFM to a party after “the free beer dries up,” Elam declares that his new approach
will mean a drop in traffic. We don’t care. To repeat, AVFM used to live and breathe by Page Rank and Alexa. We worked by drawing in as many people as possible, regardless of who they were and we performed well at it. …
Now we are moving into a new mode, not caring so much about drawing in people but in drawing in activists.
With Elam’s version of”activism” essentially defined as “agreeing with him and sending him money,” it’s becoming even more clear that former AVFM Number Two Dude Dean Esmay was telling the truth when, in an unintentionally revealing slip of the tongue, he told one feminist that AVFM was “a group of volunteers dedicated to a cause, and the cause is Paul Elam.”
Best of luck with your little cult, Paul, as it becomes littler.
Ha! How I love watching these fuckwits implode. It’s not just the schadenfreude, it’s that every time one of these bellowing idiots sounds his barbaric yawp across the rooftops of the internet in the aftermath of a schism, they demonstrate in glorious HD that the criticism they receive from non-MRAs is entirely justified.
These guys are always so concerned about their frozen peaches, but some of the easiest sites to get banned from seem to be AVFM and ROK.
Are there really a lot more real “MHRAs” in India? I hope not!!
The man definitely does not take criticism well, to say the least. Not a good trait for someone trying to grow a movement. I’ll be interested to see where the MRA movement stands a few months from now.
“not a good trait for someone trying to grow a movement”
You assume he actually is trying to promote a cause apart from the Give Paul Elam Your Money Fund.
300 MRAs? I guess this is how Paul Elam sees himself, then
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PAYWALLING IS ACTIVISM
UNPOPULARITY IS SUCCESS
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
Now that I think about it, I think I should have posted the image as a link (though I don’t know how to do it). David, you can remove and edit comments, right? If the image bothers anyone, can you do that?
@RosaDeLava & @Subtract Hominem – :)!
Also, “this is not a place for pussies of either sex” got me thinking… while it’s bizarre enough that French and English both have this weird call-a-vagina-a-word-for-a-cat thing going on, why the hell is “pussy” used as a synonym for wimpy, too?
Never mind. I’m pretty sure the reasoning goes “People with vaginas are all women and women are naturally wimpy.”
But I’m curious about the cat connection. Cats don’t seem wimpy, generally speaking.
“I estimate (very roughly) that there are about 300 actual MHRAs in the world, not including the very high numbers of activists in India.”
I’m still trying to figure out how India wouldn’t count as part of “the world.”
Omg, laughing witch’s video is awesome. If only it wasn’t so nauseating to listen to Paul Elam rant about how ‘them hypocritical SJWs are calling me gay’, then accidently use an abelist slur as part of his rant.
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Wow, I didn’t know about the men’s rights movement in India. Wikipedia has a page devoted to it, which I skimmed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men's_rights_movement_in_India
What I already knew was that women in India are often treated very badly (dowry burnings, gang rape, less access to education, and so on). So these Indian MRAs want to make sure that Indian women stay horribly oppressed.
Marketplace India is a fair trade organization helping Indian women to improve their lives. They sell beautiful, unique clothing, curtains, and such, made by female Indian artisans. Everything is hand dyed and the clothing is often embroidered.
http://www.marketplaceindia.com
@SH,tRM
He’s the quintessential Orwellian. Can’t wait to hear him say, “AVFM is Doubleplus Good! And we are, and have always been, at war with Oceania.”
Wait, didn’t Elam previously say that AVFM’s entire goal was to be a place where men could make their voices heard, and discuss
misogynistic beliefsimportant men’s rights? Now he’s not even doing that?When hateful people form a group, it’s impossible for the hate to stay directed outward.
People that hate, really LOVE to hate. They are happiest when they are hating. It should be no surprise to anyone in a hate filled group when the hate gets turned onto people in that same group.
It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when they start to consume each other. But they will eventually turn on each other, that’s the nature of it. And no one will be surprised, except for them.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7liywYAJ71qzk95a.gif
And no, hurting your fee-fees by telling you you can’t beat women doesn’t count.
You mean the fact that feminists are focusing on women and not the menz?
That’s literally all Paulie’s upset about. WE FEMINISTS ARE SPENDING TOO MUCH TIME ON THE SILLY WIMMENZ AND NOT ALL OUR TIME ON THE MENZ! MISANDRY!
Though, I’m laughing so hard at the fact that he’s paywalling his site because he doesn’t think that the peeps who are saying “Hey, maybe you’re handling this wrong?” do enough to support him.
What a baby. A creepy, whiny, selfish manbaby.

Aw, damn.
The second image is supposed to be this:

Ten times 0% powerfulness and effectiveness is still… 0%, Paul.
I also find it adorable how he calls other people slacktivists. Isn’t this the guy who proclaimed that he had no interest in trying to get any legislation changed, or to sway any politicians? Nevermind that that’s a big part in solving the issues which he claims MRAs fight for?
I really wish a more decent men’s movement, one which doesn’t try to tear down women and feminism to build themselves up, but actually tackles the real issues, would form and speak up, Someone needs to present an alternative group on the subject, to make MRAs as we know them look like even bigger fools about men’s issues than feminists already make them look. We need the good men, the informed men, to step up and make people like Paul obsolete. Feminism does help men in a roundabout way, but it doesn’t address all of men’s woes, nor should it be held responsible for them. They would also need to come up with a different label than MRA or MHRA, because those are forever tainted.
@epitome of incomprehensibility:
It’s the same in Mayan: the word for cat is “Mis”, which is also used as slang for female genitals. Apparently Guatemalans who speak Mayan find it hilarious that Anglophone women call themselves “Miss.”
@CCD:
Back in the day, Ally Fogg used to run a really good blog exploring that same point. I haven’t read it for years but you may want to check it out.
@raysa:
Ain’t that the fuckin’ truth.
Re: pussy —
There’s a possibility that it comes from “pusillanimous” (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pusillanimous — this is what I usually see when dudebros want to explain that the word is totes not sexist), but the definition of “pussy” (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pussy — see #3) suggests it comes from “pussycat”. But when you circle back to “pussycat” (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pussycat) you should check definition #2 — “a person who has a kind and gentle nature” & “one that is weak, compliant, or amiable”
In Finnish dialects, “mirri” means “cat” (with connotation of a female cat), and in slang, it of course means “pussy”.
In an interesting twist of things (see #2 definition and etymology for pussy in link provided above), “pussi” means “bag”, and the slang meaning is “testicles or scrotum”.
Which makes this image kind of confusing for people right now:
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Jussipussi_2d119e_1048792.jpg
But not as confusing as this:
http://i.imgur.com/e36NXo3.jpg
(I hope that’s how I do that) Uh, Paul? “Slacktivists who whine about the free beer not being cold enough” describes a good portion of your fanbase, your employees, and yourself.
Hooray, I figured out the blockquote function!