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Reddit MRA: If we let feminism “win,” they’ll throw all men in prison and use them for breeding. Then Muslims will take over.

Wait a minute! All this already happened ... in 1992!
Wait a minute! All this already happened … in 1992!

I learn a lot from reading the Men’s Rights subreddit. For example, I learned today that feminism can’t win, because it’s impossible, but that if it does win, feminists will throw all of us men into prison and use us for breeding. Though they won’t actually be able to throw us in prison. Then Muslims will take over, unless they don’t.

Let’s let the fella who calls himself 192873982 explain, because reading back over that last paragraph, I have to say it doesn’t seem to make much sense:

92873982 1 point 7 hours ago Because you are making false assumptions. If we let feminism "win", they'll try to control men by throwing all men in prisons and using them only for breeding. Then some other culture will start a war against the country, most likely the muslim people because they are the most patriarchical and power-hungry around, and they'll win, because woman don't have enough ability to defend themselves, and they don't even understand the importance of an army (they'd abandon the army most likely). Then this other culture would subdue the feminists and we would be at a patriarchy. If no other culture attacked, they would most likely be able to keep themselves alife (it's not hard with todays tools), and having enough babies would be easy to achieve too. But anyway, they'd not be able to force all men into prisons, because men would win in a fight. The pendulum would swing back, and women would be subdued. I don't want to be killed or imprisoned. Because most men feel the same, feminism can't win. Even most women disagree with the goals of feminsim. There is just no way feminism can win, that's why we can't let them win, because it's impossible. Feminism can only be successfull, if they have mens support, which they do right now. But since they can't reach their goals with mens support, they can't win.

Is this what they call STEM logic? Because it sounds like something the stem of a cherry might have come up with after soaking in a martini for a couple of hours.

H/T — r/BestOfOutrageCulture

 

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Kat
Kat
6 years ago

The female Kurdish fighters would make these MRA/PUA/MGTOW guys s***t their pants.

I don’t have a link, but my takeaway about these brave women (when I read about them months ago) was, “Fighting isn’t what we want to do. It’s what we have to do to save civilization.”

They’re also fighting to win women’s rights.

guest
guest
6 years ago

Every time someone writes ‘who is Katie?’ I think of a great jazzy a cappella arrangement of these lyrics:

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/181042

Unfortunately I somehow have it in my Itunes but can’t find it on Youtube.

Bananananana dakry
Bananananana dakry
6 years ago

@Kat

Any one of those women has more bona fide courage than a hundred MRA weenies waving around war-hyperbole and jargon in their paranoid rantings about the Ebil Feminists.

And that’s being generous to the weenies.

lkeke35
6 years ago

Uhmm…they do understand that many of us have male family members, right? Do not any of them have female family members? And if so, how the Hell do you arrive at that kind of reasoning?

I’m just baffled!

Kat
Kat
6 years ago

@Bananananana dakry
Yep.

I love the courageous female fighters of the PKK. They’re fighting for me too.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
6 years ago

The Mongolian women and Vikings and the rest of the women and girls who have fought in wars and battles throughout the ages would like to join in too. They don’t have to do anything all they have to do is stand there and the manospherians will be the ones to run.

I don’t get it, Google exists, why do these suckers not look up women and girls in history and see all the things they have done and stop taking credit and degrading/disrespecting their efforts/discoveries/etc?

CJ
CJ
6 years ago

Well… gotta give the dude credit for imagination, at least. I’m doubtful he’s got much else going for him.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
6 years ago

CJ
That’s not much of a imagination to me. I like Paradoxical Intention’s and everyone else here’s imagination better.

Kat
Kat
6 years ago

@Ikeke35

Uhmm…they do understand that many of us have male family members, right? Do not any of them have female family members? And if so, how the Hell do you arrive at that kind of reasoning?

I’m just baffled!

Two stories about baffling menz & menztruation:

A guy I knew fairly well confessed to me that when he was a teenager he had the impression that when women had their periods, they lost their minds.

“But you have a sister! And a mother!” I said.

He looked sheepish.

**********************

This anecdote comes from someone I know.

She started a relationship with a very bright midtwenties guy in the STEM field. She mentioned something about her period, and he was all Huh?

He had never heard of menstruation.

So he went home and asked his sister, and she confirmed that indeed women bleed once a month–but do not die!

Shaenon
6 years ago

Even better, this is the original post on the thread:

Why don’t we let the feminists win? Eventually it will get to a point where no guy will talk with them or be near them. Eventually the human race will die out and we can thank the feminists for that.

YOU’LL BE SORRY WHEN WE’RE ALL DEAD. Somebody read that and decided it wasn’t paranoid and histrionic enough.

Another person on the thread comments that they can’t let the feminists win because we’ll install a matriarchy, but it’s okay because the matriarchy will fail on account of women being too stupid to run a government or do math.

ljy2008
6 years ago

He should know it’s already too late! We’ve begun the harvest of male sperm and no man is safe.

The prisons are already being built in remote locations that can only be found by a stealth mission.

The fortresses are impenetrable,

…and if he thinks we don’t know what to do with those pesky Muslim men? Ha ha ha ha ha! He’s severely underestimated his enemy.

Soon the plan will be complete and the drones will be released. Resistance is futile and men should just surrender to avoid unnecessary blood shed.

(Insert evil laugh here)

Shaenon
6 years ago

This dystopia sounds a little briar-patchy to me. “Don’t lock me up in your feminist pleasure palace and use me as your sex toy, all the women in the world but especially the hot ones! I’d be ever so cross if you did that!”

Robjec
Robjec
6 years ago

So is that a real book? Who would it of been marketed too before the Internet?

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
6 years ago

tampon mines

Rampant humanitarian abuses in tampon mining industry are colloquially referred to with the term “blood tampons”.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
6 years ago

Rampant humanitarian abuses in tampon mining industry are colloquially referred to with the term “blood tampons”.

Arctic Ape, you are my new favourite person.

Spindrift
Spindrift
6 years ago

This sounds like another case of projection, as always. They think all women are good for is sex, and when they picture women taking over they assume women will treat them the way they want to treat women. So of course women would lock men up and keep them around to breed with, cause it’s just a genderflipped version of their own rapey fantasies.

katz
katz
6 years ago

Everyone likes to blame tampon suppliers for the rampant abuses in the industry. But who pulls the strings?

Paradoxical Intention
6 years ago

Fruitloopsie | September 19, 2015 at 1:10 am
CJ
That’s not much of a imagination to me. I like Paradoxical Intention’s and everyone else here’s imagination better.

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Shaenon | September 19, 2015 at 1:19 am
This dystopia sounds a little briar-patchy to me. “Don’t lock me up in your feminist pleasure palace and use me as your sex toy, all the women in the world but especially the hot ones! I’d be ever so cross if you did that!”

That’s the thing though, isn’t it? They seem to think we want to all jump on their cocks and use them as sex toys because they’re projecting hard enough to show off a PowerPoint presentation on how much they masturbated yesterday.

Which does explain the popularity of the Dominatrix genre of porn.

Kat
Kat
6 years ago

@robjec

So is that a real book? Who would it of been marketed too before the Internet?

It’s a futuristic dystopian fantasy. You would have found it in drugstores and five-and-dime stores.

Its target audience was probably men who like reading that genre of book–and a few curious women.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

@shaenon – It does seem like he’s fantasizing about Death By Snoo Snoo. Not realizing, of course, that women aren’t going to be harvesting sperm from someone who thinks “alife” is a word.

@katz – The abuses haven’t been publicized, but I think people are starting to cotton on.

Spindrift
Spindrift
6 years ago

@Buttercup Q. Skullpants

It does seem like he’s fantasizing about Death By Snoo Snoo. Not realizing, of course, that women aren’t going to be harvesting sperm from someone who thinks “alife” is a word.

And if they did, what makes them think the ebil feminists wouldn’t just make their beta male minions use electroejaculation to harvest that sperm from the prisoners?

Tessa
Tessa
6 years ago

@Buttercup Q. Skullpants

@shaenon – It does seem like he’s fantasizing about Death By Snoo Snoo. Not realizing, of course, that women aren’t going to be harvesting sperm from someone who thinks “alife” is a word.

Yeah A) Like they’d pass the screening process, and 2) as if the harvesting will involve sex. It’s not like the big dairies have people go out and milk the individual cows. If they’re going to create massive straw feminist dystopian futures, they should at least put some effort into the logistics.

happy cat
happy cat
6 years ago

The creepy thing is, Elliot Rodger actually wrote about imprisoning all women (he meant all pretty young slim cis white females), allegedly to make the world a better place.

“The first strike against women will be to quarantine all of them in concentration camps. At these camps, the vast majority of the female population will be deliberately starved to death. That would be an efficient and fitting way to kill them all off. I would take great pleasure and satisfaction in condemning every single woman on earth to starve to death. I would have an enormous tower built just for myself, where I can oversee the entire concentration camp and gleefully watch them all die. If I can’t have them, no one will, I’d imagine thinking to myself as I oversee this. Women represent everything that is unfair with this world, and in order to make the world a fair place, they must all be eradicated.
A few women would be spared, however, for the sake of reproduction. These women would be kept and bred in secret labs. There, they will be artificially inseminated with sperm samples in order to produce offspring. Their depraved nature will slowly be bred out of them in time.”

On the other hand, i’ve never, ever met a feminist who wanted to eradicate men. They hate sexism, they don’t hate men as a whole. Well…

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

And 3) as if their sperm is so valuable and amazing, feminists are going to require tons and tons and tons of it, multiple times a day, from billions of prisoners. For moisturizer, I guess? Perpetual youth rituals? Powering the industry and cities that feminists won’t be able to create because they’re no good at STEM? Who knows?

kylagb
kylagb
6 years ago

How many illegitimate sons did Charles Manson have? I think we just located one of them.

kylagb
kylagb
6 years ago

Hope “illegitimate” doesn’t offend. Sorry. 🙁

bananananana dakry
bananananana dakry
6 years ago

@Buttercup Q. Skullpants

Nope, for currency. It’s liquid fucking gold after all. Think about the amount of spooges required to finance a car, for instance.

bananananana dakry
bananananana dakry
6 years ago

@happy cat

Now I feel nauseous reading that vileness. I know it makes me a bad person, but I’m glad that little shit is dead. I’m just sad he took several people with him and for the impact it had on his family.

latsot (@latsot)
6 years ago

This guy has *form*: https://www.reddit.com/user/192873982

I need to get around to writing a bot to generate an insight-of-the-day from this sage.

A little bit of concern trolling: I think number-person is French so doing a remarkable job of communicating absolutely fucking blithering ideas in a foreign language.

happy cat
happy cat
6 years ago

@bananananana dakry I feel the same way. Also, sorry, I should have put a trigger warning.

sff9
sff9
6 years ago

What strikes me in this post, and also in Roosh’s plan to restore the patriarchy, is the extent to which they deny, apparently in good faith, that they’re already living in a patriarchy. They’re so oblivious! Red pill, yeah right.

Vanir (@Vanir85)
6 years ago

they deny, apparently in good faith, that they’re already living in a patriarchy

– sff9

To them, it’s not patriarchy until women are practically (or perhaps even literally) slaves with no rights and no choice but to submit themselves to men in every way. They only see it as patriarchy if the patriarchy is absolute – if there is any way in which women have freedoms and rights that inconvenience men like them, then it’s not patriarchy – it’s a ball crushing matriarchy.

– Trigger warning –

Honestly, their idea of patriarchy, their masculine utopia, really boils down to this; “Unless she is claimed by another man, I should be able to do whatever I wish with her, and if I rape her, I should be congratulated on my manly virility, while she should be branded a dirty, used, slut.”

sff9
sff9
6 years ago

@Vanir, it seems so, yes. In a way, the “Dear Muslima” argument is a watered-down, more socially acceptable version of this idea.

sff9
sff9
6 years ago

N.B., I was referring to the first part of Vanir’s post—as for the second part, I agree that this description of over-the-top patriarchy is probably correct, but despite everything I read on this blog, I trust the standard level of decency of most MRAs and other anti-feminists is not so low as to consider this a utopia.

Vanir (@Vanir85)
6 years ago

I trust the standard level of decency of most MRAs and other anti-feminists is not so low as to consider this a utopia.

-sff9

I was generally referring to the more extreme types of anti-feminists, like Roosh V – I should have made this more clear.

sff9
sff9
6 years ago

@Vanir, yup, I wouldn’t hold Roosh to any level of decency either! I’m not that naïve.

Subtract Hominem, the Renegade Misandroid
Subtract Hominem, the Renegade Misandroid
6 years ago

OP Redditor:

woman [sic] don’t have enough ability to defend themselves, and they don’t understand the importance of an army

Oh, look what I found! It’s a list of women in combat, from ancient history through WWII. I wonder how such a thing could possibly exist. Hmmmmm.

painteyelash
painteyelash
6 years ago

Haha, the last two sentences were amazing. It takes a certain amount of skill to contradict yourself so much.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Kylagb,
I was just thinking how much he sounds like Manson. In that Manson thought there was going to be a race war, black people would win, but are too inferior to rule so Manson would get to emerge from his desert hideaway and become the ruler with his superiority and whiteness. Just change it from a race war to a gender war and that’s exactly the way this MRA thinks. It’s a little disturbing.

takshak
takshak
6 years ago

@ weirwoodtreehugger – “a little”?

@ bananananana dakry – I am absolutely against the death penalty myself, but I’m not gonna apologize for agreeing with you, I’m glad that piece of shit is dead.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
6 years ago

I think Happy Cat’s figured it out – this garbled mess of conspiracy theory that even LIZARD JFK CAN’T MELT STEEL CHEMTRAILS would be embarrassed to be seen with is just projection (because “Projection” might as well be the entire bowel movement’s middle name).

Cthulhu's Intern
6 years ago

Is no one going to comment on David’s picture? Of those alpha guys taking cover behind a freakin’ saw horse? Basically just a board? Damn, if that’s our resistance, we need to step up our game. We can take over the world MUCH faster than we have.
No wonder TRP hasn’t taken over New Zealand yet.

TheLulzWatch
TheLulzWatch
6 years ago

The point we are at av icecow i MensRights
[–]192873982 3 points 23 hours ago

“Don’t immitate feminists behaviour of blaming your own problems on other people.”

Dude, the whole point of the Red P… Neomasculinity is so you don´t to blame yourself for your problems ever again!
If you aren´t going to be a hypocritical a***hole, why even bother?!?

TheLulzWatch
TheLulzWatch
6 years ago

Subtract Hominem, the Renegade Misandroid, thanx!

patti roberts
patti roberts
6 years ago

Don’t worry guys, we will keep ya all ‘alife’ and somewhat happy. LOL.

latsot (@latsot)
6 years ago

@patti

As I said, number is probably French so it’s churlish to point out errors in English. However, he misspells “successful” about nine fucking times while explaining how important success is, so I think irony wins.

A.A. Wils
6 years ago

Is that book some anti-feminist version of the Turner Diaries?

That that I’ve read the Turner Diaries myself. I most likely couldn’t stomach it. I’ve only gotten the plot filtered through wikipedia–which has told me enough about it that I’m good.

The Redditor, on the other hand, sounds like he must be a big fan of TD himself. Which would not at all be shocking in any way, knowing the mentality of those idiots.

A.A. Wils
6 years ago

Ugh. I don’t know know where my “Not” in front of the “That I’ve read the Turner Diaries myself” went. Maybe my cats ate it.

In any event, I have not personally read that detestable book.

Vanir (@Vanir85)
6 years ago

Is that book some anti-feminist version of the Turner Diaries?

– A.A. Wils

The Turner Diaries is plenty anti-feminist on its own – same as most white supremacists are anti-feminist (and anti liberal, anti progressive, etc.) as well as horribly racist. What little I’ve read of the TD far from embraces white men and women as equals.

Not really surprising, seeing as both white supremacism and male supremacism seems to hold that only the right kind of men with the right way of thinking should be allowed to have any power and say in the world – and anyone else is to be subjugated to their will – or removed. The only real thing separating these racists and sexists is the starting point of their hatred (the main problem is non-whites vs. the main problem is uppity women).

A cheerful little bunch, all in all 🙁

Nequam
Nequam
6 years ago

I’m surprise the ultimate fear didn’t come up in this guy’s screed (probably because of his delusion that his genetic material is in any way desirable): usually when male domesticated animals are not intended to be used for stud purposes, they’re GELDED so as to reduce sexual aggression.

Say hello to Monsieur Ecrasure, boys…