So over in the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, the regulars are talking about sexbots, as it seems every single person in the broader manosphere has been doing this week.
And one of the regulars came up with a creepy new spin on the issue that took even me by surprise.
So the fellas were discussing the possibility of making sexbots look like anyone you want them to … and this happened.
![joblessguy10 11 points 1 day ago What's more, we can probably design our own sex bots with their own unique likeness--or even ones based on actual women, with whatever body type you desire. You can have one with the face of Angelina Jolie with her succulent full lips paired with a body of big ass pornstar like Jada Stevens This may happen with more advanced forms of CAD and 3D laser based copies. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [–]moosevice_dot_com 28 points 1 day ago Or how about modeling your sexbot to look like your ex GF? Imagine that, she will be furious knowing that you get to still bang her doppelganger without paying for it anymore. HAHA. Good Times Ahead. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [–]joblessguy10 4 points 1 day ago I've never had a girlfriend but if I did, I would totally do that. Good time ahead indeed. Hopefully, we'll be alive by then to enjoy more advanced sex bots with pre-programmed multi functions.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/gfsexbot.png?resize=532%2C436&ssl=1)
This is the creepiest thing I’ve read in I don’t know how long, and I’m someone who reads the manosphere every day of the week.
I hate to have to bring you the bad news, fella, but if you’re sitting around imagining how cool it would be have a sexbot that looked just like your ex, so you could keep “banging” her even after she tossed you out of her life, you are not only not “over her” but you are also not in any way, shape, or form “going your own way.”
And you’re not fooling anyone by talking about the delight you’ll get in “still bang[ing] her doppelgänger without paying for it anymore HAHA.” Because what you’re really doing is symbolically “banging” your ex not without “paying for it” — these sexbots will cost many thousands of dollars – but without her consent. It’s a kind of ritual rape, less about sexual pleasure than about violating your ex.
How do I know that? Because you’re clearly more interested in making her “furious” than you are in “banging her doppelgänger.” Indeed, you mentioned her (predictably and justifiably) furious reaction before you even got around to mentioning the sex.
If you were really interested in “going your own way,” I think it’s safe to say, you wouldn’t be sitting around on the internet imagining elaborate ways to hurt your ex. Get over her. Get over yourself. And just fucking GO already.
As a CAD programmer I sincerely hope none of these douche-nozzles ever use my software for something as creepy as that…
Those were my first thoughts, too.
And of course, his obsession with celebrities and/or porn stars has NOTHING to do with that, I’m sure. Or his unrealistic expectations of women, fed by said obsession.
Count me among the amused. I’m over all my exes, so the realization that any of them are not over me would be a hoot. Especially since, in all cases but one, THEY did the dumping.
Of course a primitive version of this technology exists today. It’s called, “Bitterly masturbating to a photo of your ex-girlfriend”.
I guess MRAs aren’t quite smart enough to come up with this idea. Otherwise, they’d be doing it and then bragging about it online.
So it’s like a super rapey version of Lars and the Real Girl with none of the sweetness? Ha.
If one of my exes had a sex bot of me, I would assume she was completely insane.
@Chaos-Engineer:
Yeah, somehow mailing that photo in to a bot-making agency (because obviously an ex isn’t going to go in for a body scan), and having them make a sculpture from that photo into which they can bitterly masturbate is much more palatable to them.
Another thing … I thought that for alphas, it’s the conquest, not the actual sex, that matters. Sexbots are like prostitutes: you pay for service and oula, it’s yours. Like expensive masturbating. No challenge there. So wouldn’t that emasculate them, in the “game” sense?
@kirbywarp:
And we have a winner for the “least pleasant job ever” category. Imagine being the sculptor who spends ages getting the work perfect in every detail, just knowing all the while that someone is going to have sex with your handiwork. Ew. I wouldn’t be able to bring myself to touch the thing even while I was making it.
Also, Warren ended up murdering his ex. The sexbot wasn’t made to look like Katrina though. He actually made it before he met her. Katrina was rightfully creeped out when she found about the bot and dumped him. Warren has always reminded me of an MRA.
Not to be too schoolmarm-y here, but I’ve gotta say – I take some issue with the word “rape” being used to refer to actions which are, well, not rape. Even with the qualifiers (“kind of ritual rape”), it feels off to me. Like, let’s say this guy did what he’s talking about – got a sexbot that looked just like his ex, and utilized it to make his ex “furious” – that would be profoundly creepy, and cruel, and arguably a sort of sexual abuse (in the same way that, say, revenge porn is a sort of sexual abuse), but would it really be “rape?” I think that in general, discourse on this subject can get stymied by a paucity of established language – there are, sadly, lots of ways for people to do harm linked to sex, and (at least in English) not many words to discuss the nuances of this harm – but still: I think that “rape” should be used to refer to sex without consent. Exploiting someone’s likeness/photos/etc. as a way to emotionally injure them is deeply messed-up, but it’s not the same thing as rape.
(But if someone wants to tell me why I’m wrong, well, please do.)
Buying dinner every once in a while, being emotionally available, and having to wait until your girlfriend also wants to have sex = paying for sex. Literally buying a robot so that you can have sex with it = not paying for sex.
@EJ The Other One —
Someone sculpts all those dildos.
Since women are so awful and robots can be any shape or form, why exactly do sexbots have to look like women at all?
He imagines she’ll be furious, like banging her doppelgänger is anything but pathetic and makes him look very much not over her. Dude, this is not something to advertise, unless you want everyone to pity you and be repulsed.
Holy shit. As others have said that’s REALLY creepy! Dare I say incredibly fucked up. Would this even be legal, let alone ethical? There are laws I believe about using someone’s likeness I think. This is never going to happen in million years. Keep dreaming Men Obsessing Over their Exes.
on the same wavelength with David here. when I saw the headline in my Twitter feed I think I literally rolled my eyes as I thought “boy, you’re sure going your own way there.”
he’s going his own way so hard he’s looped right back around into… whatever this is. I dunno but it’s… sad.
what I never understand is why theoretical “sexbots” are apparently “cool” with this crowd. I mean, realdolls already exist and, as far as I know, these guys aren’t waxing poetic about them… what’s the difference? why are those presumably still considered creepy and pathetic (not a personal judgment, just how it seems most people view such things) but “sexbots” are totally rad?
@EJ (The Other One)
I don’t know. Some people would consider it a calling. Like this guy (NSFW and kinda disturbing)
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If Westworld taught me anything (besides Michael Chricton isn’t a very good director) it’s that sex-bots will slowly gain sentience and free-will, and then eventually (and understandably) try to kill you.
@Mike
It’s definitely not equivalent to rape, but purposefully having sex with something that cannot say no, and that looks exactly like the object of your resentment, is a pretty blatant show of what these guys would like to do to their exes. Similar to burning an effigy of someone- it’s not the same thing as burning a person alive, but it’s an incredibly threatening action nonetheless. A large part of this is the fact that they’re gloating over how upset their exes would be with them- meaning that they don’t intend on privately enjoying a bit of an odd fetish; they want their exes to KNOW that they are violating something that acts as a proxy for the ex.
re: Why not Real Dolls?:
I think they’re counting on their sexbots to be Lenore-from-Serenity-level-complexity..
…they maybe in for some disappointment.
have*, not be.
How about if it wasn’t a robot, but an animal of some sort? Suppose he dressed it up in her discarded clothes (that she left behind when she fled him), and stuck a photo of her face over its face, and then “had sex with” it. Would that not be rape? True, a ‘bot isn’t a living creature, but as a substitute for one, particularly in an abusive context, I’d say the word “rape” still works.
Jesus, that’s sad. Dude, you’re doing fantasy wrong. You’re supposed to imagine meeting your soulmate, and living happily ever after. If that doesn’t ring true for you, you could try imagining a series of satisfying relationships, separated by amicable breakups. If the best fantasy you can manage is angrily revenge-fucking a walking fleshlight, you need to work on your self esteem.
So basically, this would be a creepier, more expensive version of a voodoo doll.
After spending tens of thousands of dollars, then he would…what…email his ex-GF with photos? (assuming there isn’t a restraining order, which is a very big if) Then what? She’d immediately block him and congratulate herself on having dodged not just a bullet, but an entire mortar shell. He wouldn’t get the reaction he wanted. Then he’d be stuck with nothing but his own tears, a bedroom sculpture permanently commemorating his relationship failure, and 5 years of hefty monthly payments on something which has zero resale value. I mean, I don’t know much about the secondhand market for these things, but I’m guessing there’s not a lot of demand for a used effigy of someone else’s ex-GF. An ill-used one, at that – I doubt any of these guys plan to take meticulous care of their revengebots.
@Shalimar
That’s what I’ve been wondering. If women have no value beyond a single hole, as they like to claim, why isn’t a fleshlight sufficient? Why do they even need the rest of the body?
I’m actually surprised that David did not see this coming. When I first read about the Manosphere’s obsession with sexbots, this was one of the first things that I knew they would want to do.
The manosphere has a flawed understanding of how relationships work (i.e. transaction for sex) but funny enough they actually perceive it outside their own box on a unconscious level. Women are attractive to people not solely based on looks – everything about the person adds to the full and rich context of being with them.
People living in mano’bubble go out of their way to ignore this, but this is an example of it creeping up on them. A sexbot, even if it is drop-dead gorgeous, will always be ultimately unsatisfying as time goes on as context MATTERS. This is something they fail to acknowledge even though it affects them.
Hence I knew that they would seek context – the sexbots in all likelihood will resemble people in real life they are attracted to, from celebrities to exes. The motivations for having sex with them may vary, but a neutral form of sexbots that don’t resemble real-life people will most probably be unpopular, even if they are good-looking.
On a personal note, I’m completely against the notion of sexbots. We already have enough real-life problems with dealing with discrimination for real people – sexbots can easily reinforce the dehumanization of others as they are literally objects with no self agency that will resemble real people. That is not a good path to walk down.
Yuck. I own a vibrator and have no moral problems with the idea of sub-sentient sex bots (although i’d probably query the imaginative powers of someone who spent so much money on a masturbation aid), but it really points to how they see sex as a means of domination and control. I would be furious with an ex who told me he was wanking to ( or into ) an image of me, because I would assume he was telling me that to hurt me and assert some sort of sexual ownership that I clearly don’t want. Luckily I dont think even my worst ex is as pathetic as these guys.