Is the Men’s Rights Movement a bunch of middle-aged creeps obsessed with the sexuality of women young enough to be their daughters?
Judging from this video, shot at the first A Voice for Men “family reunion,” the answer is “yes.” Also, the Men’s Rights movement is drunk.
In the video, AVFM’s head middle-aged creep Paul Elam, working the camera, introduces his fellow “family members” as the only men in the Men’s Movement “who told Jessica Valenti ‘no’ to a blow job.”
Panning across the almost-all-white faces in the crowd, Elam gleefully shouts:
Hello Jessica! Hello Jessica! Yeeaaaah! Here’s a dick you won’t suck! Oh, there’s another dick you won’t suck! Oh my God there’s just thousands of dicks that don’t want you to suck it! [sic] … No means no, bitch! No means no, bitch!
At this point the entire group starts chanting “no means no.”
Valenti, the founder of Feministing, is a daily columnist for The Guardian and the author of four books. Elam is a middle-aged asshole who for many years has lived off of his girlfriend and/or the donations he’s been able to extract from gullible men.
Elam asks if anyone else has anything they want to say to the feminists of the world, because “this is going on YouTube.”
One gentleman shouts his message: “Go fuck yourself!”
Former AVFM second-in-command Dean Esmay makes an impossible-to-parse comment about “good rape.”
Elam adds his thoughts about another prominent feminist writer:
Hey listen, Amanda Marcotte! Your pussy stinks!
Then he ends the video with this little warning:
Hey, girls, look into your future! A lot more of this shit’s coming, and it ain’t gonna be fun except for us.
The Human Rights Movement of the 21st century, folks!
In the description of the video on YouTube, Elam (presumably sober by this time) makes clear he doesn’t care if anyone thinks the video makes the Men’s Rights movement look bad.
Look, it is just some men having non PC fun. If you find it offensive or a “bad thing” for the men’s movement, you can blow it out your ass.
Given that the so-called Men’s Rights movement is itself a bad thing, I’d like to thank Mr. Elam for once again making my work here easy.
NOTE: You folks might want to save this video, just in case Mr. Elam realizes what an ass he’s making of himself. (If you don’t have the right browser extension to save videos, this website will do it for you.)
EDIT: I just realized what this video reminded me of: The creepy dance sequence from the horror movie Calvaire.
I think that’s non-PC-speak for “didn’t let any girls into our manly-man treehouse”.
WWTH: Well said! These are just toxic people. They look toxic and unhappy. These are the kind of people who get drunk, not for fun, but to drown out their own rage.
Oh, and you forgot two other groups of women although you did mention bell hooks) they don’t target trans women (the kind of women you think would certainly enrage them) and WoC. A lot of the arguments they make about women are a hell of a lot harder to make against trans women and WoC.
I just realized what this video reminded me of: The creepy dance scene from the horror movie Calvaire:
brb,adding it to the post
So human rightsy.
Oh, and why is it called “Blair Bitch Project.” I know they like calling women bitches, but who or what, in this context is Blair? Without a Blair, this joke doesn’t work. Is a reference to a more than 15 year old movie really the only way they can work a bitch joke into their video title?
TreeHugger – “But what they really hate most of all is that there are young, pretty women who are not acquiescing to what they think their designated role is. ” and might I add, standing in for all the “hot” chicks who won’t give them the time of day. “Clearly, the reason Betty from Highschool put out for everyone but me is because she was a feminist/was brainwashed by feminists!”
Brainwashed by Feminists would be an awesome band name
It’s like a more depressing, drunker, greasier version of Al Bundy’s No Ma’am meetings.
On the bright side, this is what’s left of them, now. Once upon a time they hosted a real convention, sort of, with lots of people and real professionals, and now it’s just a bunch of drunk old farts making a Youtube video. Men’s Rights and AVFM are on their way out.
There’s one guy in the crowd (second on the left) who seems a bit embarrassed or at least not that amused. Maybe at least one of the assholes is aware of the fact that “being part of a bunch of assholish middle-aged creeps obsessed with the genitalia of the young women they hate” is not something that most people would be proud of.
Thanks, howlcat. I read through the original criticism of the ad (http://www.burntorangereport.com/diary/14215/deep-ellum-says-their-dallas-blonde-goes-down-easy-but-rape-culture-never-does) and the response from the brewery (in the link from howlcat).
The original criticism is pretty tame, but I’ll let the response from the brewery speak for itself:
Emphasis original. Yes, implying that women “go down easy” does contribute to rape culture. It tells men that they should always expect and are entitled to blow jobs. This is not a hard concept.
Emphasis original. You are a sexist asshole trying to sell beer. You say you don’t need tricks to do it, but yet here you are, using sexist jokes to try to sell beer.
They also go on to defend their “Cans for Cans” breast cancer fund raiser after anbreast cancer survivor told them it was offensive.
I’m not surprised that the MRM has joined with this brewery and, even though I love craft beers, I will not be drinking any from Deep Ellum.
I don’t find the video offensive; people can drink and be merry in any way they please, within the limits of the law. However, I do find the video to be pretty compelling evidence that the people involved are petulant, childish and mentally stunted. They appear to be men who live their lives in a perpetual tantrum against an imagined tyrant because they are entitled and lack the courage, confidence and humility to evaluate and accept their own shortcomings or personal responsibility for their place in life (whether general unhappiness or loneliness). Instead they blame outwardly at the very thing they desire (“well I’m perfect, I must lonely/uhappy because modern women are jerks!”) and retreat to the comfort of an echo chamber with similarly pained, self-affirming individuals in a pretty toxic positive feedback loop; they just bounce-off each other, reinforcing their own sense of entitlement, self-perception of perfection and outward hatred until they’re completely irrational and vile. Really, they’re just sowing their own unhappiness and loneliness by becoming something so abhorrent that women (and the rest of society for that matter) are increasingly repulsed.
I think this is the first time I ever heard Paulie’s voice (yup, never saw fit to bother with any of his audiovisual rants till now), and I gotta say, he sounds EXACTLY as I imagined him. DOOFY and DRUNK OFF HIS ASS*, in other words.
Anyone figure out what Deano is saying about “good rape”? I only made out the last two or three words.
And yup, these guys all look exactly as I’d expect a Menz Rightzer “movement” (or the rump of one, to be quite honest) to look. Kinda like a Possum Lodge meeting without the oinking air-raid siren and cheerful accordion accompaniment:
*And that’s not just an expression. He really does sound like he’s yelling from somewhere up his own rectum. Jenkem is not just an urban myth after all!
I just got up a little while ago, so I’m not ready to watch the video yet. However, I did watch the clip from Calvaire and now I have GOT to see this movie!
Also, yeah, can’t believe a bunch of grown men are yelling “your pussy stinks” to be put on You Tube. David’s right, this video will probably be taken down soon.
“Goes Down Easy” is a terrible slogan, even without the double entendre. It’s like saying “Swallowable!” or “Less Likely To Regurgitate!” It doesn’t say anything about how the beer actually tastes, just that you can get it down without triggering the gag reflex. Great? I guess?
It’s also a stupid slogan in that it implies beer is only for sexually insecure, horny men (shoo, ladies! unless you’re a young, conventionally attractive slut, because we want our brewery to look like all the beer commercials…). And it explicitly invokes the link between alcohol, lowered inhibitions, and the blurring of consent. How is that not enabling rape culture?
Not surprised AVfM felt right at home there.
Another day, another MRA “critique” or “criticism” of women by commenting on the smell of a pussy, or what woman would be unable to find a taker for a bj.
Yep. Misogyny is definitely NOT a thing, as can be seen here. Feeemales be ridiculously inventing stuff.
WWTH,
They do seem to be very upset when young, conventionally attractive women are feminist.
The entire MRA ideology is full of whale sized holes that constantly need to be plugged in an attempt to create a presentation of a cohesive world view. Whenever a feminist is not old and ugly, that creates a hole that needs explaining.
It’s exhausting, just watching them attempt to justify their bullshit. For the life of me, I can’t figure out why they won’t just come right out and say “women aren’t good for anything but making sammiches and pleasing our boners”.
It would save everyone loads of time, including them.
Oh dear.
Bizarre fixation about sex with feminists: check
‘Edgy’ non-PC ranting: check
Claims having zero basis in reality: check
Making fun about consensual sex: check
Room entirely filled with jerks: check
Did I miss anything?
As they say, an ‘alpha’ man gotta do what an ‘alpha’ man gotta do!
I also find it funny when they get annoyed about feminists calling them fools when they go way out of their way to provide us with ample evidence. Oh why oh why are these fish building their barrel to jump into?
As magnesium said, it’s sad to see what Elam’s empire has come down to. This image just seems to be more and more appropriate every time he does anything:
http://m.quickmeme.com/img/a8/a8bd3fee10fe8194d98a2f8bbb5c66a3cafa23966650442178e73c9f3dacb982.jpg
“Goes down easy/easier/smoother” is literally a rape joke, just a subtle one. It’s rape by coercion, plain and simple.
The dipshits at Elam Brewery probably don’t understand what rape culture is. I have a sneaking suspicion that they think the criticism was literally calling them rapists, not assholes contributing to a culture where rape is seen as a lesser crime and women are seen as lesser people.
So about the Valenti being neglected blowjobs by them thing…does anyone have any context? Is there an actual story there, or is it something he just made up on the spot and said in an attempt to make noise?
Like obviously what he said was bullshit, but now I’m curious as to what kind of distortion of reality they had to go through to get to there.
Like is it as simple as one of them bugging her on twitter or something, and she aggravatedly said “blow me” or something before blocking him? Or did she at one point make an offer to somebody who wasn’t them, or once briefly mentioned blowjobs in some context, they heard about it and just decided to preemptively reject her non-advances, and are somehow proud about that?
Is it like the Kids in the Hall ‘never put salt in your eyes’ sketch? Where she once said she would never want anything to do with them and that just got morphed in their head as she was really desperate to give them blowjobs?
@WWTH
Best guess about the title (and I’m probably giving them WAYYYYY too much credit) is being self-deprecating about the terrible camera work/editing, especially at the end.
Years ago, Coors used to use that “goes down easy” for its snicker advertisements.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coors-Light-Beer-Coaster-Full-Strength-On-Tap-Now-On-Draght-Goes-Down-Easy-/231457212901
From some googling around, looks like it’s a term of art in reviewing beer, indicating exactly what it sounds like, it’s easy to drink it fast.
@Taffer I doubt she said something to that effect. What is true is that on the MRA front they keep coming up with a bunch of fake quotes that they attribute to Valenti. (If you can’t beat them, just make up a bunch of BS to justify our position! DEBATE SLAM WIN)
They could very well be referring to one of these – or they could be fantasizing. Who knows?
I like that even when they’re looking at their own group, all they see is a bunch of dicks.