Antifeminist douchenozzles regularly mock feminists for caring about so-called “first world problems” like “manspreading” and rape and systematic gender discrimination. Unlike those trivia-obsessed feminists, those who’ve taken the Red Pill only concern themselves with momentous questions, like the age of a certain fictional spy dude’s onscreen paramour.
On the Red Pill subreddit, the regulars are up in arms over the news that in the upcoming James Bond film Spectre, the main “Bond Girl” will be a woman more or less Bond’s own age, rather than half of it: current Bond Boy Daniel Craig, 47, will be playing opposite 50-year-old hag lady Monica Bellucci.
I know, right?
In a post with 145 upvotes and 178 comments so far, Bea_OProblem reports sadly that Bond — James Bond — will be “paired with [a] post-wall woman,” the hideous uggo Belluci.
Movie executives have got the memo that pandering to alimony laden post-wall consumers is a lucrative cash cow. In this distinctly blue pill universe, the mysterious and suave international spy wants no one other than a 51 year old woman. Because apparently a mature woman is more alluring than a dozen young pert sluts.
Apparently Bea was so horrified by the news that he added a year to Belucci’s age; Google says she’s 50.
Adding insult to injury, Craig told Esquire magazine that he hopes his Bond won’t be “as sexist and misogynistic” as his predecessors in the role. “The world has changed,” he said.
Red Pillers are not taking the news well. After taking a glance at the picture above, one Red Piller reacted as though he’d seen the dead come to life:
Some thought that Bellucci, only three years Craig’s senior, looked less like his love interest than his mom.
![tillybb 9 points 1 day ago Funny how Daniel looks objectively loads better/healthier/younger when its women who use makeup & spend their days from puberty till the grave trying to look as good as possible. permalinksaveparentreportgive gold [–]Epicureanist 4 points 1 day ago Smoke and mirrors. Castles made of sand. That's all they are. permalinksaveparentreportgive gold [–]nemaxofredpill 5 points 21 hours ago Damn. I thought she looked good until you put her next to Daniel Craig. She looks old enough to be his mom. permalinksaveparentreportgive gold [–]redundanteater 3 points 1 day ago Bond might fuck her in order to get something more valuable (e.g. microfilm, launch codes, introduction to others, plausible cover, etc.), but she can't be a love interest.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/morebond.png?resize=456%2C482&ssl=1)
Others railed at the manginas who enabled this horrible thing to happen:
To be sure, a few brave souls acknowledged that Ms. Bellucci might not be the ugliest old lady they’d ever seen, but they were still having none of it.
In the real world, for what it’s worth, Daniel Craig is married to 45-year-old actress Rachel Weisz. Because, in the real world, not all men are obsessed with “bedding” women young enough to be their daughters.
Many of the assembled Red Pillers tried to convince their comrades that they personally Would Not Bang Ms. Bellucci, except perhaps in conditions of poor lighting.
![cover20 6 points 1 day ago I have lots of respect for her, OK. But that doesn't mean I would want to fuck her. One doesn't fuck a woman out of respect for her, any more than a woman fucks a man because he supplicates to her. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive gold [–]McLarenX 2 points 1 day ago Of course. But if I had grapefruit balls and she was laying there naked in front of me in dim enough lighting, id hit it.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/grapefruit.png?resize=523%2C214&ssl=1)
Regardless of their personal answer to the WB question, almost all agreed that this was pretty much the end of the world.
I don’t know about you, but Mila Kunis as Rambo sounds kind of awesome to me.
Note to skjosh:
In more newz of the real world, Bond girl Eunice Gayson is 87 years old.
Is it possible that the real world is bigger than you thought?
@theseventhguest, that was awesome! Never seen it before
@20years2day:
@katz:
Point conceded.
Re: Jane “Austin” novels: A motherless gentleman’s daughter would presumably just become closer than usual to her governess (see *Emma*).
Re: Bond, J attempting to seduce a man – I’ve avoided the films and therefore don’t feel entitled to much of an opinion, but please, no – it would almost certainly be done in a way that would convey nothing but negative messages. It would have to. Almost everyone hates M/M across all sorts of ideological lines, not least of all many of the people who distort it for their own fictional purposes.
…They do?
I had typed such an obscene little paragraph involving little hetrosexuals seeing James Bond stuffed but I’ll think I’ll just say:
I have never wanted to see James Bond get stuffed more than after I read that sentence, by god. Never in my life.
And by littler heterosexual I mean adult assholes.
I would like to see your data on this, since you felt qualified to say it in such a way that speaks for so many people.
I think it might be just you projecting, and that’s fine, no one’s saying you have to like dude on dude butt stuff, but let’s not try to justify it by saying “everyone hates it! Don’t do it!”
And I’m not going to disagree that many people do use gay ships as a way to twist characters for their own fiction, but I honestly don’t have a problem with that unless it’s being fetishized (and they use lube. None of this “spit lube” nonsense.) or the person is trying to use that to claim allyship with actual LGBTQA+ people.
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If I remember right, in one of Roger Moore’s Bond films, a minor female character who was supposed to be quite young snuck into Bond’s bedroom with the clear intention of seducing him. His response was something along the lines of ‘now get dressed, and I’ll buy you an ice cream’ – in short, to tell her ‘no, you’re too young’. That was back in the 80s. It’s hardly unthinkable to consider that Bond would prefer an older woman over one barely scratching adulthood, in fact it’s canon.
I’m sorry, I just have to ask… Has this person been in any fandom with two or more male characters ever?
As I mentioned way up this thread, both the Connery and Lazenby incarnations of Bond were paired with actresses older than them (five years senior in the case of Honor Blackman), so this particular ship sailed a half-century ago.
Uhm… General grossness of this aside, can I ask what you mean by “Ideological lines”? I usually hear that phrase in reference to the liberal/conservative split, but whether or not somebody’s homophobic (along with sexist and racist) might as well be the definition of said split.
IIRC, DJG is a gay man. So I don’t think the comment is projected homophobia.
“”Antifeminist douchenozzles regularly mock feminists for caring about so-called “first world problems” ………………. On the Red Pill subreddit, the regulars are up in arms over the news that in the upcoming James Bond film Spectre””
Are you sure you want to hold feminism – the movement for gender “equality” – to same standards as couple of assholes on the internet who share tips how to make women to have sex with them?
But you are right PuAs have hysterical reaction to media they don’t like almost as often as feminists. At least idiots from TRP aren’t all over the internet, don’t harass authors and have no political power.
MRAs aren’t all over the Internet and don’t harass authors (and literally everyone else)?
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You’re missing the point. The point isn’t that it’s wrong to question representations in media. Since popular culture effects the way people see the world, whether they want to admit it or not, it’s worthy to discuss it.
The point is, anti-feminists try to silence us all the time by pointing out that women in the Middle East have it worse. They say it’s shallow for us to discuss feminists being harassed by gamergaters because a women are stoned to death in other countries. They kind of undermine their argument when they get upset about a 50 year old woman getting a movie role when a 20 year old would’ve pleased their boners more.
You think red pillers never harass anyone? Okay. What authors have been harassed by feminists. Citation please. I don’t think feminists have much political power, but why would it be bad if we did? If feminists ran the US government we’d have increased access to birth control and abortion, paid parental leave for both fathers and mothers and universal single payer health care. Oh, the horrors!
Teh evilz right wing, reactionary, capitalist, white supremacist, MRAs are coming for you (and literally everyone else), shouldn’t you be hiding under the bed right now? Take your smartphone or notebook with you and learn what are the differences between MRAs, PuAs, and classic anti-feminists.
Remember what mr Whedon said? “Believe me, I have been attacked by militant feminists since I got on Twitter. That’s something I’m used to.”
Yes media under certain circumstances in certain ways can affect society. But media reflect society not the other way around. I also believe it’s worthy to discuss it but where are feminists able of recognizing nuances who are actually willing to discuss it?
Are you kidding me? This could count as derailing, IF it was used against some legitimate issue like paid maternity leave in the US in some actual political debate. People telling you things on the internet aren’t silencing you.
If you want to know how silencing looks like then look at Canadian feminists and what they do to MRM events…
No that’s not what I think. I’m just not unaware of any Redpiller harrasing author of media because they considered the medium feminist propaganda.
I will quote Joss Whedon again: “Believe me, I have been attacked by militant feminists since I got on Twitter. That’s something I’m used to.”
Just look at what happens when some popular female celebrity publicly states “I’m not a feminist”. Is it really so hard to imagine that your movement has some very toxic parts?
So you are unaware of legislative based on feminist theory and anti-male propaganda like Duluth model? You don’t know about Minister for Women in Australia? Why do you think shelters for men can’t find funding?
You’re contradicting yourself here. You’re going on and on about the scary evil feminists harassing everyone and bringing no evidence but a single Joss Whedon quote (which he walked back BTW). Yet mocking the idea that we should be concerned about harassment from every other group. So which is it? Is harassment bad, or is it something everyone should just get over?
There is no appreciable difference between MRAs, PUAs, and anti-feminists. They all have the exact same view of women. Why else do you think Paul Elam wrote glowingly of Roosh?
We have nuanced discussions about it all the time. I’m sorry you’re not bright enough to grasp any of the discussions. Unless of course, you’re defining nuanced as in agreement with you. And what makes you think media reflects society, not the other way around? It’s not an either or thing. Society effects media, media effects society. Media absolutely influences people’s perceptions of how one is supposed to look. Remember when everyone got the Rachel haircut? If you’re too young to remember it, Google it.
Dumbass, I’m not talking about anyone being physically silenced. A silencing tactic is a bad faith debate tactic.
Big Red. An oldie but goodie.
Every single well known feminist is subjected to a barrage of death threats and rape threats. Gamergate exists because people didn’t like Zoe Quinn making a game they considered feminist propaganda. Are you this stupid on purpose?
Anti-male propaganda? Oh my.
See what I did there? With the Joss Whedon show quote?
Perhaps because “men’s rights activists” would rather troll on the internet than doing anything to help male domestic violence victims?
DV shelters for men wouldn’t even exist if it weren’t for feminists. Half because patriarchy’s thought on the subject is “Men can’t be victims! Emotions are for girls and [homophobic slurs]! Suck it up, you pussies!” and feminism is doing its damnedest to change that, and half because they’re literally owned and run and paid for by feminists.
But that doesn’t mesh with your
talkingwhining point, so.Isn’t Tony Abbott, the Prime Minister of Australia, the Minister for Women?
There needs to be a proper ‘Modesty Blaise’ movie. The character (a hard-boiled female mercenary/spy) is unfairly unknown outside the UK, and the 1966 film adaptation did her no favours despite starring the captivating Monica Vitti.
Please tell me this isn’t true. I am Poe-ing so hard at this right now.
@EJ (The Other One)
It is true. Hopefully the link works as it relates to a genuine outpouring of gratitude to Mr Abbott for all he has done for the women in Australia. /s
http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/women-take-to-twitter-to-thank-pm/story-e6frfku9-1227164579846
Ugh…just, ugh…
These are not men, or even human beings. They are a race of male automatons, enslaved to robotic thinking.
“In other news my brother has been making worrying MRA noises lately, and he just told me with a smug grin that he found a poster on the Internet stating 53% of domestic violence victims are men. We all know where that statistic comes from, we’ve danced this dance before whenever a troll tries to throw it at us. I tried to explain that the survey it’s based on counts a defensive shove on a same level as a brutal beating and that men are more likely to severely injure or kill their partners. He won’t listen. He’s always believed what he wanted to believe his whole life and just doesn’t know how to evaluate or analyse. If it sounds right to him, he hangs on to it. He’ll ignore opposing evidence. He’ll read about once instance of something bad done by a member of X group and think its an ongoing problem that all Xes do. In other words, he’s already a master at all the mental gymnastics and hamstering that makes MRAs tick.”
Try your husband falling down this particular rabbit hole… Yeah, mine did. It’s really painful to watch, and I think it appeals to a certain nerdy type who doesn’t always have the best luck with women. When I married him, he was an introspective geek type. Now, while he says he’s lucky to have me, he feels vindicated in making horrible comments about women in general. I really don’t know what to do about it, as it’s putting a horrible strain on our relationship. He did find himself coming to some feminist conclusions lately, but now he feels that feminists are just “really bad at messaging to men.” No… I think his “friends” just don’t want to hear things like “women are sexual beings just like men and much of human history has involved controlling female sexuality,” or “saying someone is a strong woman doesn’t mean she’s physically stronger than a man, it means she has a strong character.” I. Just. Can’t.
Wish I had some insight into how to turn this around. I feel like I’ve lost him to this.