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Red Pill Redditor: Give women sexy tingles by calling them losers

Mean Girls: The Red Pill bible?
Mean Girls: The Red Pill bible?

Forget backhanded compliments and clever “negs.” The best way for Red Pill would-be pickup artists to seduce the ladies with words is to call them “losers.”

At least that’s the claim of one much-upvoted Red Pill Redditor who says he learned this devastating new seduction technique from Mean Girls. Yes, that Mean Girls, from which he learned that “women resonate with this feeling of never being loved or accepted.”

In a post that’s garnered more than 450 upvotes so far, REDPILLRECKONING urges his Red Pill brothers to take advantage of “a woman’s desperate need to be accepted” in order to get her into bed.

Every woman has a big red button for a psychological nuke called acceptance in her mind. Learn to revel in her psychotic desperation for approval at large and hone your cool indifference to societal norms for maximum tingles.

And there’s no better way to do this, he tells us, than by the strategic use of the word “loser.”

While calling women “ugly” makes you seem both bitter and unoriginal, pulling out the L-word “gets to the heart off matters without coming across like a complete fedora.” Indeed, the word “loser” is “probably one of the most important tools you will ever have in the battle for tingles.”

If you have the requisite confidence, REDPILLRECKONING informs us, you can “call [a woman] a loser in a bemused way and watch the tingles flow.”

Naturally, the Red Pill regulars are impressed with this analysis.

Someone calling himself notmyusualreddit writes

The reason calling a woman a loser works so well is because they can’t hamster it back. They know they are. A woman without a kid and a husband after 25 IS a loser deep down and they know it and theres nothing they can do. The proof is there.

When my old ex and I were breaking up, she was 26, living at home, having just killed our relationship of 2-3 years by getting way too close to her ex. Sure she had a good job and an MBA, but in reality she was a loser. She was a woman about to turn 27, with no real prospects for a quality man beyond her orbiters. She had to start over and wade through the guys that just want to fuck her and hope she can keep one.

What a sad position to be in at 27 instead of 21.

Because 27-year-olds are such decrepit hags.

Waynebradysworld agrees that abusive behavior is really the best way to score “poon.”

Treat a woman like dirt and she will stick to you like mud.

I’ve never really had to do this explicitly, as I prefer to simply keep them on their toes to prevent domination.

I have witnessed many other guys (who got more poon than me) do it all the time though. Its amazing and disturbing how effective it really is.

One fellow innocently remarks that he has actually found success not by insulting women but by — get this! — listening to them

Confessing that he doesn’t quite get how the “loser” thing “works with a nice normal girl,” he suggests that

I guess I just meet very different women from the ones ya’ll meet. Last night I seemed to impress a new woman pretty highly just by taking an interest in all of the things she does.

Naturally, he is downvoted below zero for this heresy.

Taking an interest in what a woman does! What’s next, taking her seriously as a human being? Respecting her opinions?

What a loser this guy is!

 

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Tom
Tom
5 years ago

I’m enjoying the recent stuff. Obviously only the most idiotic stuff from these reddits ends up here, but the quantity of upvotes speaks volumes 🙂

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Doesn’t that chap not realise that listening to the ladies gives you ear cooties!

Johanna Roberts
5 years ago

Hate to break it to that one redpiller but unless you let it dry out mud isn’t all that sticky. Even then it just kinda cakes. So I suppose they stick like mud in the way that they go away once soap reveals them for the person they are….

Spaceman
Spaceman
5 years ago

If calling a woman a “looser” works so well why did his girlfriend leave him?

Somehow I think the redpiller mistakes anger/”f-off” (and its variants) for tingles.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Did they miss that Mean Girls was about the dynamic between girls? Aaron Samuels was attractive to Cady because he was cute and nice to her.

The appropriate teen movie reaction to these guys would be more like this
http://cdn2.crushable.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Clueless-As-If.gif

ikanreed
ikanreed
5 years ago

Yet another tally mark in the “MRAs only idea of socializing comes from movies” column.

Judas Peckerwood
Judas Peckerwood
5 years ago

Good lord, even a Fleshlight® deserves better than these tools.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

While calling women “ugly” makes you seem both bitter and unoriginal, pulling out the L-word “gets to the heart off matters without coming across like a complete fedora.”

Hey Red Pillock, it’s a TRILBY. You come across like a complete TRILBY. Not to mention a projecting one.

The reason calling a woman a loser works so well is because they can’t hamster it back. They know they are. A woman without a kid and a husband after 25 IS a loser deep down and they know it and theres nothing they can do. The proof is there.

Urgh, again this unhealthy Pillock obsession with hamsters. I’m beginning to think there’s something to it…namely, that these dudes are so busy stuffing their cheeks with endless rationalizations, shredding newspapers all night just to annoy the humans, and running on a wheel that goes nowhere.

(Either that, or they’ve all got gerbils up their bums…in which case, EWWWW.)

When my old ex and I were breaking up, she was 26, living at home, having just killed our relationship of 2-3 years by getting way too close to her ex. Sure she had a good job and an MBA, but in reality she was a loser. She was a woman about to turn 27, with no real prospects for a quality man beyond her orbiters. She had to start over and wade through the guys that just want to fuck her and hope she can keep one.

Or maybe she just got sick of this dude’s loser ass and went back to her ex because at least he wasn’t burbling inane theories at her and wondering why she didn’t act in a properly Pavlovian manner.

Treat a woman like dirt and she will stick to you like mud.

Or to phrase it a bit differently, be a complete shit and you will attract flies!

lkeke35
5 years ago

Yeah, how much you wanna bet that lunkhead used this tactic on his ex, and then she dumped him?

This whole thing is basically another ploy to create new coins to put into that blobby, machine-thingy that produces sex, because none of the other coins they’ve used actually works.

Wetherby
Wetherby
5 years ago

Not for the first time, I wonder if these people have ever actually interacted with real live women apart from mothers, siblings, teachers and people on the other side of shop counters.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

Sexy tingles for dudes that aren’t him, the fact that he hasn’t realized this is just sad. Truly. Not just regular sad but EPIC.

ReallyFriendly
ReallyFriendly
5 years ago

Listening to women?! That is hivemind propaganda! Somebody feed this guy more narratives of ‘matriachy’ and ‘untrustworthy man-eaters’!

Do they have their priests who can exorcise the demons of reasonableness and human decency from the poor fool? They should!

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

A woman says yes to a red piller and it’s evidence the red pill works. A woman says no to or dumps him, it’s evidence the red pill works. And they think we have rationalization hamsters?

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

… Okay, I was about to ask why the fuck an MRA was watching Mean Girls despite how much they hate movies with cooties in them, then I realised that I do NOT want to know the answer. Fucking paedophiles. Need a shower now.

yutolia
yutolia
5 years ago

@WWTH: I think this might be where the disconnect lies. Maybe to them “women are socialized to treat other women like shit and see them only as competition” = “women like being treated like shit”. The reasoning probably ends there though, because it’s provided an excuse and therefore served its purpose.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

I have a pressure washer, just wish it could be used on my brain sometimes, seems like it would be as effective but much less harmful compared to bleach.

Moocow
Moocow
5 years ago

@Bina

You’ve figured it out! MRAs come from an alternate dimention where hamsters live in butts!

http://i.imgur.com/w2D56B7.png

contrapangloss
5 years ago

Funny how single at 27 with a MBA sounds like way more fun to me than 25, married to a jerk, with kids.

Then again, I never want kids, so I’m biased. Still, the not being married to a jerk sounds really nice.

ColeYote
ColeYote
5 years ago

Dammit, TRPers, why you gotta bring Wayne Brady into this?!

sn0rkmaiden
5 years ago

This is why I gave up on dating. These days when a guy acts like an asshole I don’t know if they’re disinterested or gaming me. That said, in red pill years I’m a fossil so maybe none of this applies to me?

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
5 years ago

Single at 27 with an MBA, according to redpillows:

Woman: loser!

Man: alpha!

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
5 years ago

So calling people losers is the key to winning?

… sweet fancy moses, Trump is gonna win the election.

makingfitzcarraldo
makingfitzcarraldo
5 years ago

So when Cady says the meaner Regina was to her the more she wanted her approval sunk in…. but the end of the movie didn’t?

Matrim
Matrim
5 years ago

“call [a woman] a loser in a bemused way and watch the tingles flow.”

So, pretend to be confused? I guess being a PUA jackass doesn’t require a firm grasp of vocabulary.

contrapangloss
5 years ago

These days when a guy acts like an asshole I don’t know if they’re disinterested or gaming me.

You do however, know that they act like an opening which exiting solid bodily waste passes through.

Useful information, methinks!

contrapangloss
5 years ago

… sweet fancy moses, Trump is gonna win the election.

Don’t even joke about that.

Please, no.

Saturday Night Live would be incredible, but everything else? Please, please no.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

having just killed our relationship of 2-3 years by getting way too close to her ex.

Uh huh. So after a couple of years with this guy, she decided her ex was looking pretty good after all. In other news, water is wet.

Sure she had a good job and an MBA, but in reality she was a loser

Oh, my sides. Do they ever actually listen to themselves?

“Sure, she had a Nobel Prize, an IQ of 150, three Olympic gold medals, and a hospital wing named after her, but she was a LOSER.”

She was a woman about to turn 27, with no real prospects for a quality man beyond her orbiters.

The hell…?

“She was about to turn 27, with absolutely no prospects in sight other than the dozens of men who were interested in dating her.”

Sounds to me like she finished up her business degree, found a good job, and realized her future would be much brighter without a jealous, abusive piece of deadwood dragging her down. Take away all the self-serving hamstering, and it’s pretty clear what happened. Her star is rising, his is going nowhere. She’s back with her ex (or one of her many “orbiters”), and he’s on Red Pill whining about it. I don’t see how this is proof that Red Pill works. It sounds like the opposite, actually.

hone your cool indifference to societal norms for maximum tingles

Societal norms like etiquette, hygiene, and not turning every basic interaction into a pathetic power struggle?

This phrase, right here, encapsulates everything that’s ridiculous and wrong about Red pill.

Fake alpha libertarian edginess? Check.
Idiotic, reductive jargon (“tingles”)? Check.
Writing style sounds like a pompous, badly programmed sci-fi robot? Check.
Avoids the need for self-improvement by moving the goalposts to where the ball already is? Check.
Is absolutely, utterly, 180-degree dead wrong about what women find attractive? Check.

All that’s missing is an acronym and some numbers.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
5 years ago

It’d do wonders for John Oliver’s show.

… until it got shut down by Trump’s feds, of course. I can’t imagine what that clown would do if he was in power, how he’d handle the criticism that a president always gets. The dude can’t even handle his own hair.

brian
5 years ago

@SFHC:
I’m not defending anything the Red Pillers say, fuck no, but I will defend watching Mean Girls. It’s a really good movie. Also, while they’re playing high school students, I don’t believe any of the main actors are actually underage in it. In fact, IIRC, I think Rachel McAdams was like 28 or something, though I do believe she’s the oldest of them.

On another topic, more weird terminology: What the heck does “hamster it back” mean?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
5 years ago

Every woman has a big red button for a psychological nuke called acceptance in her mind. Learn to revel in her psychotic desperation for approval at large and hone your cool indifference to societal norms for maximum tingles.

… Is it just me, or is this no different than what redpillers have been saying since forever? Wasn’t this the whole justification for “negging?” That women wanted approval and if you negged them then they wouldn’t have that approval so they’d work extra hard to get it? How is it that the theory hasn’t changed and yet their views on “ugly” have reversed?

Rhetorical question…

Still, I don’t think I’ll ever understand how making someone feel guilty and depressed over the state of their life causes sexual arousal… Wouldn’t that ultimately put them even more on guard against making potentially bad decisions, like dating the person who called them a loser?

Wouldn’t it be hilarious if they discovered the awesome, unstoppable power of the word “loser” through Trump’s presidential campaign?

Moggie
Moggie
5 years ago

This guy thinks Mean Girls was a documentary? OMG, that is so fetch!

tinyorc
5 years ago

I love the way this guy is presenting his “discovery” of a grade school insult as though it’s some massive sociological revelation.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
5 years ago

@kirbywarp,

I don’t think they’ve ever said anything original, have they? It’s all repackaged misogyny, wrapped in layers and layers of cultural filth, back to a kernel of “you’re my property, do what I tell you.” I can’t see how they can really have a unique thought, just endless iterations of the same old excuses for bullshit. It’s like a really awful jawbreaker, with layers of excrement and grossness instead of hard candy.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

@brian

Oh, I’m not saying it’s a bad movie or anything, just that we’re talking about the people who won’t even watch Mad Max because it has a woman in it.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
5 years ago

@Scildfreja:

That… that is the worst jawbreaker I’ve ever heard of.

Here’s hoping it doesn’t end up actually being an Everlasting Gobstopper.

dhag85
5 years ago

When my old ex and I were breaking up, she was 26, living at home, having just killed our relationship of 2-3 years by getting way too close to her ex. Sure she had a good job and an MBA, but in reality she was a loser.

I see many people have said this already, but in what universe is this a bad situation for the woman? She’s in her mid-20’s, she’s educated and has a good job, and she just got out of an abusive relationship, not letting her overly insecure douchebag boyfriend hold her back. She’s living “at home”, meaning she can calmly look for an apartment for herself which she could presumably pay for with the money she earns from her good job. Again, mid-20’s!! Can I trade places with this lady please?

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Wait you’re saying if you beat down a person emotionally and mentally enough they’ll be depressed, become co-dependent and start believing in what you feed them? Who would have thunk it?

“Sure she had a good job and an MBA, but in reality she was a loser”

Pfft well someone’s jelly and nothing’s good enough for these redpr*cks

I love how they say women want approval from men while they get advice on how to be an alpha and share stories with each other on how alfalfa they are.

firechild (@firechild)

Jebus I’m 35, unmarried with no kids, I’d hate to think what these asshats would think of me ~curls into her bubble where everyone is nice and happy and has kittens~

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

The reason calling a woman a loser works so well is because they can’t hamster it back. They know they are. A woman without a kid and a husband after 25 IS a loser deep down and they know it and theres nothing they can do. The proof is there.

Dude, I’m 25 and roughly half, I can’t find a job despite having a bachelor’s, and I live with my grandmother. I know I’m a loser by a lot of people’s standards.

Even by your shitty retro 1950’s bullshit of “no husband, no kids” standards.

All that said, I’d rather be single with three cats and working a minimum wage job than fuck or be in a terrible relationship with you or any of your gross-ass, crusty redpillock brothers-in-whinging.

Moggie | September 1, 2015 at 2:31 pm
This guy thinks Mean Girls was a documentary? OMG, that is so fetch!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-m-mkV7dZFKo/VQ8UddAGaVI/AAAAAAAAD28/IX4FycMHRs4/s1600/stop-trying-to-make-fetch-happen.jpg

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
5 years ago

Whoa, PI, I didn’t know we were about the same age. I was born in November, 1989. You?

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

May, 1990. 😀

So you’re a bit older than me. :3

Scarlettathena
5 years ago

What I hear when I read “Yeah, she’s got a great job and an MBA and is 27 but she’s a loser” is “The girl broke up with me, so there must be something wrong with her, ’cause I’m perfect.” Basically, dood can’t fathom that he might not be a fabulous catch and is justifying this to himself.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Paradoxy

At your age I’d been bumming around working for bands for 10 years and was back crashing at my parents after years of living in scuzzy shared houses with my fellow bums. It was only then that I thought I’d better do something if I didn’t want to be a 50 year old living on tour busses. So I applied to law school. I spent the next 5 years studying and holding down 2 jobs.

Everything turned out great.

Trust me, 25 is the *minimum* age you should be thinking about what you want to do in life. Personally I’d give it another few years of enjoying the cats and free thinking. It is a cliché but you have your whole life ahead of you to worry about grown up stuff.

Identifying as a loser at 25 is as daft as saying that about a 5 year old. You can’t even apply for loser status until you’ve got at least 3.5 decades of experience, that’s the law.

tinyorc
5 years ago

Fruitloopsie:

I love how they say women want approval from men while they get advice on how to be an alpha and share stories with each other on how alfalfa they are.

From this point on, I will always and only refer to the geniuses of TRP as alfalfa males.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Alan Robertshaw | September 1, 2015 at 3:31 pm
Trust me, 25 is the *minimum* age you should be thinking about what you want to do in life. Personally I’d give it another few years of enjoying the cats and free thinking. It is a cliché but you have your whole life ahead of you to worry about grown up stuff.

Identifying as a loser at 25 is as daft as saying that about a 5 year old. You can’t even apply for loser status until you’ve got at least 3.5 decades of experience, that’s the law.

Aw, thanks Alan. That’s very nice of you. :3

tinyorc | September 1, 2015 at 3:31 pm
From this point on, I will always and only refer to the geniuses of TRP as alfalfa males.

Which is hilarious, because I tend to think of TRPers as the Little Rascals and their “no girls allowed” club.

ReallyFriendly
ReallyFriendly
5 years ago

What I really want to know is what he means by a ‘quality’ man?

Scratch that. On second thought, maybe I don’t. I may be a huge horror movie buff, but there are some things in the world that is too scary for me.

Also, I don’t know if the man knows how to use ‘loser’ because the person he is describing sounds like she is in a good position in life, whereas his own actions (trawling around in a Reddit board seeking approval) doesn’t reflect well on him.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
5 years ago

@PI

Cool! I don’t really think about age much, so it’s always neat to find out how old folks that I’ve known for a while are. ^_^

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago
Buttercup Q. Skullpants

@Paradoxical:

All that said, I’d rather be single with three cats and working a minimum wage job than fuck or be in a terrible relationship with you or any of your gross-ass, crusty redpillock brothers-in-whinging.

Yeah, this is a very basic truth that Red Pillers still haven’t figured out. People seek out situations and people that they think are the best deal for them. TRPers have various fancy names for it when applied to women – hypergamy, Briffault’s law, etc. – but it doesn’t require deep insight or a specially named law to realize that humans in general (not just women) gravitate away from those who make them feel bad/don’t meet their needs, and gravitate towards those who make them feel good/meet their needs. Men also follow Briffault’s law. It’s just that when they do it, the twerps find that understandable, even laudable. When women do it, it’s because they’re irrational and self-centered and don’t know what they “really” want. That’s why TRPers think operant conditioning only works on women.

If his ex left him, it’s because she realized she’d be happier with somebody else. If women decide they’re better off alone than with a Red Piller…well, what does that say about Red Pillers and what they have to offer? Obviously, negging harder isn’t the answer.

Honestly, I don’t think they’re giving each other this terrible advice because they actually think it works. It just makes them feel better to come up with scientific justifications for lobbing kindergarten-level insults at women.

Qubrick
Qubrick
5 years ago

Hello, longtime reader here, first time comment. Just wanted to comment on this particular chestnut left by the alfalfa piller (leaving out the blockquote since I’m not a 100% sure how to make it work: A woman without a kid and a husband after 25 IS a loser deep down and they know it and theres (sic) nothing they can do.

They really should know that the average married age for men and women is getting higher and higher. If I remember my Modern Romance correctly, the average age for men being married is something on the order of 30, while for women it’s around 27 or so.

Red Pillers: so backasswards with their idea of gender roles they’re lose a fight before it even started