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On his forum today, Roosh V posted this rather chilling assessment of his fans:
With so many mass shootings in the States these days, it’s just a matter of time until one of them happens to follow me on Twitter, read ROK, or like a handful of my Youtube videos.
What!?
There have been, according to one informal survey, 247 mass shootings in the United States so far this year (that is, shootings with more tha four victims, including the shooter). That’s a lot, but there are 245 million people over the age of 18 in the US. So we’re talking about one mass shooting per year per million people.
According to TwitterAudit, Roosh has about 13,000 real Twitter followers, and about 16,000 YouTube subscribers, many of them presumably the same people. His websites draw tens of thousands of unique visitors a day (including a number of his Twitter and Youtube followers) . But only about 30% of them are from the US, at least according to Alexa. So let’s say that he’s got maybe ten thousand real fans in the US, only a portion of whom could be tied to Roosh with a comment on his site or a “like” on one of his videos.
If Roosh thinks it’s “statistically likely” that one of these people literally goes out and shoots a bunch of people, either he can’t do math or he thinks his followers are much more violent and unstable and angry than your average Joe.
I mean, I think that a significant portion of his followers are ticking time bombs, but it’s strange to see that Roosh agrees with me on this.
So what does Roosh intend to do? Will he try to rachet down the hateful rhetoric? Will he ask his regular commenters to be on the lookout for anyone who shows up in the Return of Kings comments or on the Roosh V Forum who seems like he might be another Elliot Rodger in the making?
Nope. He’s not really interested in trying to stop a shooting. He’s more worried that a shooting will make him look bad.
Existing reporters who hate me in the media will take this casual association and try to say that I must have caused the murderer to go violent, even though my work does not promote violence. They will do this to incite a mob to come down upon us, hoping I will shut down my “hate speech” sites in the same way PUAHate shut down after Elliot Rodgers [sic] went on his killing spree.
His solution? An emergency “protocol” to try to make him look better. He tells his followers that he expects them to:
1. Strongly denounce the violent act. There will be no public sympathy or empathy for a man who decides to take the road of violence. Denounce the murderer and his crime on the relevant forum thread. I will also make a public statement condemning the violence.
2. No jokes or sarcasm, especially towards the victim. Absolutely do not make jokes about the victim or try to justify their harm, even if the victim turned out to have wronged the murderer (e.g. false rape accusation, bad divorce). Anyone who does this will be immediately banned without warning. Also tone down your use of animated gifs during this time. Consider that the world will be watching us during the media accusation and we have to be direct and sincere with our communication.
That’s right: “tone down your use of animated gifs.”
3. Comment on media articles distancing our community from the killer. Leave comments that condemn the violence and distance our teachings of game and masculinity to the criminal act. You can also do this on Twitter. Call out the trolls that say “I’m a Roosh follower and I support this act” as liars and provocateurs.
And that’s it.
So not only does he expect one of his followers to be a future murderer; he also expects that some of his followers would — unless specifically forbidden — react to a killing by one of their own by offering the killer support, or posting crass, jokey animated gifs.
I think he’s probably right about this as well; it’s just odd to see him admit in public what utter shits his commenters are.
One Roosh V Forum regular who calls himself Basil Ransom wonders if there’s some “hypocrisy” in Roosh’s emergency protocol. Because, after all, a lot of the guys on the forum do actually sympathize with mass killers.
Whenever a man goes and commits violence against women in the name of being oppressed or vilified as a man, or being sexually worthless, there have been posters here who publicly sympathize with him, often along the lines of “bitches/feminists had it coming for being bitches/feminists.” …
The distinction here is merely a tactical one – show no support for violence when the media limelight is on the forum. But what about when it isn’t? If it’s the right thing to do, condemning violence, shouldn’t you do it when no one is looking? If condemning violence isn’t the right thing to do, wouldn’t it be a lie to suddenly condemn it in the face of media attention?
Roosh responds:
Unlike you, Basil, some of us here care about the long-term longevity of the forum, and understand emergency situations that require us to modify our behavior when the world is examining our every word.
No one here embraces or encourages violence during peace time, though sometimes we try to empathize with frustrated males who believe they have nothing to lose. During emergencies, you can share any empathy with such killers through private message.
In other words, in Roosh’s mind, it’s fine to feel sympathy with someone who goes out and shoots a bunch of women for some perceived wrong they’ve done to him. Just not publicly, in his forum, when the media is watching.
Apparently Roosh learned his ethics from GamerGate.
rv | August 27, 2015 at 11:49 pm
“It’s statistically likely that one of your followers would commit a mass killing sooner or later…”
Violence and murder is wrong if someone has “urges” then they should seek help so they wouldn’t end up hurting or killing someone and also…
“…I wouldn’t be surprised if vester Lee was a follower of yours.”
http://1.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/34/39/e9dab79e6cef9e0b9f8e866e8752d2a8.gif
Those people were murdered and you thought you could use them to “score points”?
http://media.giphy.com/media/eczpFI19Jp8YM/giphy.gif
Anon
No, if you say they need to be put in a mental hospital; call them mentally ill, crazy, insane or any other word which its in the comment policy then yes it’s ableist.
http://37.media.tumblr.com/bd738c7a0b6f6eb08e3e18156052f080/tumblr_n6yxsl00qH1rtmoc5o1_500.gif
Seriously? Well, enjoy know why I am seriously judging you when you finish reading that shit.
And I have been ninja’d by good ol’ Paradoxical Intention.
http://www.ccvresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/NinjaDuck.jpg
Ck
It’s still ableist to use the term whether its name calling or “figure of speech”
Pretty sure imagining the shooting gives him happy pants.
rv: Zip up and wash your hands.
Between this one and Vetarnias, should I bust out a container of sanitary wipes in case one of them touched the punchbowl?
@Paradoxical Intention
i hope you’re sitting down because this may his may shock you: I’d argue JB doesn’t actually care about abusive relationships and is merely getting in on the cuckold beta mania that’s sweeping the alt right these days.
Don’t worry, this in no way means that she’s giving up on railing against feminists for ruining everything by simultaneously being ugly bitter man-hating spinsters and slutty alpha fucking beta exploiting slatterns. It’s just she wants to get intersectional by exclaiming that men are being addled, swindled and emasculated by feminists and all their nonsense.
I mean the guy in the original article is a house husband (tee hee) who is in an open marriage with a women who has sex with men with ethnic names (Paulo? Gasping gasp!). It’s clearly ripe for that patented AVFM-style satire.
What JB calls bulling and plying with alcohol:
When JB says the wife pressured him with feminism to let her cheat:
What can I say, JB has always had a very rocky relationship with intellectual honesty.
She also quotes at length an article by Milo, Breitbart’s resident gamergator, who argues that all this feminism and cuckolding will drive oppressed betas to take up gay sex. Yes, that’s really his argument. JB claims his article is hilarious. The article is not hilarious.
JB also left out the part where the original writer says that both he and his wife take other lovers, though he does so less frequently than she does.
Ugh. Seriously? He needs to tell his followers not to mock peoples deaths? WHHHAAAAT THHEEEE FUUUCKKK.
Well, aren’t we the busy little gossips? ;D
(sorry…. insomnia, and misreading)
… What?
I know there has been a bit of discussion about the like Ellie posted, if you read all the way to the end you will discover that its a genderswapped story about a stay at home dad. She is trying to use it as an example of how selfish feminists are.
Dang it, should have read further down the comments before I opend my big… mouth? Keyboard? Anyway nevermind me.
Your true character is what you do when no one is watching. These “emergency protocols” of his have failed before being enacted.
Roosh is such a piece of shit. I’m not sure if this is even shocking. I know it ought to be, but it really isn’t: Roosh knows exactly what kind of people follow him and he just doesn’t care. Protecting his goddamn blog is more important to him then questioning why he thinks he’ll probably have to some day.
Yes Basil, the forum is far more important than human life!
He’s openly admitting that his followers are more likely to act out this kind of violence. Why the hell else would he be sending this ‘warning’?
link to dox in comments above!
During peacetime? Wait–wut? Are they planning on starting a war against us?
Re: Judgybitch,
I read her open relationship ‘gotcha’ a few weeks back, I’m sad to say I was initially taken in as her version reeked of special snowflake and oversharing, then I realized she’d lifted someone’s else’s story and twisted the fuck out of it. I have to say though that I wasn’t all that comfortable with the original article either, that man didn’t actually seem all that happy to be in an open marriage even if he was free to take other lovers (something JB left out), I did wonder why he was choosing to share this with the world?
Back to Roosh. I wonder if he’ll take down that short story he wrote where we’re invited to sympathize with a man who murders a woman who he blames for him getting fired from his job? I read the story as a cautionary tale/threat to SJWs.
If he thinks he can get his followers to be less evil he’s fighting a losing battle. I remember how after the Eliot Rodger murders they were sharing photos of Rodger’s sister and debating whether or not she was ‘bangable’, nice. I also remember when Billy Chubbs wrote that ridiculous article accusing women of doing nothing during WW2 except shag Nazis, and in the comments people were angry with him for being too critical of the Nazis. I’ve also read plenty of comments where people call out Islamophobia, but only because they approve of the way the Taliban treats women.
They. Are. The. Baddies.
Btw, I see a drive by troll tried to score points by referencing the recent murders in Virginia, I wonder if it’s that particular tragedy that’s got Roosh sounding the alert?
I haven’t read too much about it yet, and I will never go and view the footage, and I haven’t checked out Lee’s manifesto though I gather he thought this would be ‘pay back’ for the Charleston murders. None of this makes any sense 🙁
I’m sure this will work about as well as Paul Elam’s plea to AVfM conference ticketholders to be on their best behavior, be civil to journalists, and not make rape jokes or inappropriate comments. That went swimmingly. Reminds me of that fable about the scorpion and the frog.
It’s not like the media wouldn’t be able to see this article, or all of Roosh’s archived forums, when investigating the trail of a shooting. Roosh has to be one of the dumbest criminals alive. “Be cool! I think there might be other people who can access the internet! Do your victory dances and victim-blaming on PM until everything blows over, k guize?”
His followers are pretty dumb, too, not to notice that they’re being insulted. After all, they’ve just been told they’re statistically more likely to commit mass murder, and likely to get Roosh in trouble with the mainstream media because they have zero self-awareness and discretion. I guess that’s catnip to frustrated dark triad wannabes who want to be told how alpha and badass they are. To an outsider, it makes them look like their leader has zero respect for them, other than the cash and clicks he can milk out of them.
I mean, I’d be pretty offended if David announced we’re prone to littering and secretly snipping the tags off mattresses.
@ sn0rkmaiden
TW
I have checked out the manifesto (well, as much as has leaked) read the internal emails and watched the footage. It seems this is a fairly standard disgruntled employee scenario (albeit one with horrific consequences).
Lee seemed to have problems with inter personal skills. He was over bearing and difficult to work with. He made a number of his work colleagues uncomfortable. The HR department advised him to seek help. He may have done so but the problems continued. A number of people put in further complaints about his behaviour, including the cameraman who was killed.
As a result of this complaint he was dismissed.
He brought a claim for racial discrimination, sexual discrimination (the news presenter woman got jobs he thought he should have got) and victimisation. The claims were dismissed.
He then did what he did, using social media to document his actions. It is perhaps worthy of note that he waited until the cameraman had turned to cover the reporter before he shot her. People have speculated that this is so her death would be broadcast live.
He sent a ranting manifesto to ABC news. it makes reference to revenge for the Charleston shootings but also goes on to reference numerous other mass shootings, including Columbine. He speaks of the perpetrators of those shootings in glowing terms but indicates he will seek to ‘beat their record’.
I’ll avoid the armchair diagnosis but I think it’s within the comments policy to state that a number of supposed experts have said this demonstrates classic narcissism.
his sales are collapsing. nobody wants to associate with a serial rapist and a piece of thrash as this loser RooshV:
http://imgur.com/a/CS8ML
people who know him personally describe him as a psychopathic selfish misogynist who cares only for his pleasure.
159,000 women signed petition this week against this lowlife rapist. Spreading awareness about him will help women to be safe.
these are screenshots of several crimes he did, and info on him, you can google each one of them, there are multiple websites with more info at each:
http://imgur.com/a/CPigZ
Daryush Valizadeh : declared Antisemite extremist by Anti Defamation League:
http://daryushvalizadeh.wordpress.com/2014/05/15/roosh-the-most-infamous-misogynist-on-the-internet-became-anti-semite/
long detailed post with a larger selection of many self describes rapes by Daryush Valizadeh:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sn8ggk
https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/08/14/are-roosh-vs-bang-books-how-to-guides-for-date-rape/
RooshV harasses women online and posts their nude photos publicly and makes death threats to them:
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-rape-advocate-is-targeting-canadian-women-in-an-online-harassment-campaign
Anyway, that´s not even 5% of this scumbag´s career…
Alright, two things, to begin with. Now that Roosh has written this, people can just look it up, this is something anyone can read now, it’s like lying about something but before you do you tell everyone you are going to lie. Makes no sense.
Secondly, the fact that Roosh shows support of these killers, is just fucked up, not much more to say about that.
What a proud day it would be for him.
Yes, he knows his followers very well, he is only out to financially molest them so he himself doesn´t have to live in a basement.