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Roosh V: It’s just a matter of time before one of my fans commits a mass shooting

There have been 247 mass shootings so far this year
There have been 247 mass shootings so far this year

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On his forum today, Roosh V posted this rather chilling assessment of his fans:

With so many mass shootings in the States these days, it’s just a matter of time until one of them happens to follow me on Twitter, read ROK, or like a handful of my Youtube videos.

What!?

There have been, according to one informal survey, 247 mass shootings in the United States so far this year (that is, shootings with more tha four victims, including the shooter). That’s a lot, but there are 245 million people over the age of 18 in the US. So we’re talking about one mass shooting per year per million people.

According to TwitterAudit, Roosh has about 13,000 real Twitter followers, and about 16,000 YouTube subscribers, many of them presumably the same people. His websites draw tens of thousands of unique visitors a day (including a number of his Twitter and Youtube followers) . But only about 30% of them are from the US, at least according to Alexa. So let’s say that he’s got maybe ten thousand real fans in the US, only a portion of whom could be tied to Roosh with a comment on his site or a “like” on one of his videos.

If Roosh thinks it’s “statistically likely” that one of these people literally goes out and shoots a bunch of people, either he can’t do math or he thinks his followers are much more violent and unstable and angry than your average Joe.

I mean, I think that a significant portion of his followers are ticking time bombs, but it’s strange to see that Roosh agrees with me on this.

So what does Roosh intend to do? Will he try to rachet down the hateful rhetoric? Will he ask his regular commenters to be on the lookout for anyone who shows up in the Return of Kings comments or on the Roosh V Forum who seems like he might be another Elliot Rodger in the making?

Nope. He’s not really interested in trying to stop a shooting. He’s more worried that a shooting will make him look bad.

Existing reporters who hate me in the media will take this casual association and try to say that I must have caused the murderer to go violent, even though my work does not promote violence. They will do this to incite a mob to come down upon us, hoping I will shut down my “hate speech” sites in the same way PUAHate shut down after Elliot Rodgers [sic] went on his killing spree.

His solution? An emergency “protocol” to try to make him look better. He tells his followers that he expects them to:

1. Strongly denounce the violent act. There will be no public sympathy or empathy for a man who decides to take the road of violence. Denounce the murderer and his crime on the relevant forum thread. I will also make a public statement condemning the violence.

2. No jokes or sarcasm, especially towards the victim. Absolutely do not make jokes about the victim or try to justify their harm, even if the victim turned out to have wronged the murderer (e.g. false rape accusation, bad divorce). Anyone who does this will be immediately banned without warning. Also tone down your use of animated gifs during this time. Consider that the world will be watching us during the media accusation and we have to be direct and sincere with our communication.

That’s right: “tone down your use of animated gifs.”

3. Comment on media articles distancing our community from the killer. Leave comments that condemn the violence and distance our teachings of game and masculinity to the criminal act. You can also do this on Twitter. Call out the trolls that say “I’m a Roosh follower and I support this act” as liars and provocateurs.

And that’s it.

So not only does he expect one of his followers to be a future murderer; he also expects that some of his followers would — unless specifically forbidden — react to a killing by one of their own by offering the killer support, or posting crass, jokey animated gifs.

I think he’s probably right about this as well; it’s just odd to see him admit in public what utter shits his commenters are.

One Roosh V Forum regular who calls himself Basil Ransom wonders if there’s some “hypocrisy” in Roosh’s emergency protocol. Because, after all, a lot of the guys on the forum do actually sympathize with mass killers.

Whenever a man goes and commits violence against women in the name of being oppressed or vilified as a man, or being sexually worthless, there have been posters here who publicly sympathize with him, often along the lines of “bitches/feminists had it coming for being bitches/feminists.” …

The distinction here is merely a tactical one – show no support for violence when the media limelight is on the forum. But what about when it isn’t? If it’s the right thing to do, condemning violence, shouldn’t you do it when no one is looking? If condemning violence isn’t the right thing to do, wouldn’t it be a lie to suddenly condemn it in the face of media attention?

Roosh responds:

Unlike you, Basil, some of us here care about the long-term longevity of the forum, and understand emergency situations that require us to modify our behavior when the world is examining our every word.

No one here embraces or encourages violence during peace time, though sometimes we try to empathize with frustrated males who believe they have nothing to lose. During emergencies, you can share any empathy with such killers through private message.

In other words, in Roosh’s mind, it’s fine to feel sympathy with someone who goes out and shoots a bunch of women for some perceived wrong they’ve done to him. Just not publicly, in his forum, when the media is watching.

Apparently Roosh learned his ethics from GamerGate.

 

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j12432324
j12432324
5 years ago

It’s strange how he put this stuff out in the open on his forums. Because if a mass shooting is linked to Roosh and his webshites. It will be easy for people to dismiss any attempt to disassociate the shooter with Roosh’s webshites as soon as they find this.

It’s strange because gamergaters do it as well, they seem to think that their webshites, like 8chan and 4chan before they banned gamergate are secret clubs that either only they can access or their opponents would think to look there despite the obvious links to chan culture so they plan all their “operations” on those webshites. It’d be like if a group of criminals planned a bank robbery in the middle of a park. Granted, a park full of neo-nazis, misogynists and paedophiles, but a park nonetheless.

It’s almost as if there is an overlap in there userbase. Of course that’s preposterous since gamergate is about ethics in games journalism! not misogyny.

sn0rkmaiden
5 years ago

Regarding JB’s dox, personally I’m glad David’s removed the links. At the end of the day we’re better people than she is and we shouldn’t stoop to her level. I had this info forwarded to me months ago I was REALLY tempted to put it out there, and I did do some googling to find out more about her, just because people like her are less worrisome when you see them as real people; but I’m glad I didn’t disseminate her info on my blog, I’d have felt crap about it later.

I think it’s interesting how long that information has been in the public domain and no one has used it against her, unlike if a prominent feminist had been doxxed, in which case she’d have had to move by now. Though I do think JB’s video threatening to shoot feminists with her crossbow may have been inspired by her being aware so many people know who she is now.

That’s why I got angry with a while back, when she wrote this on her blog:

http://www.donotlink.com/g9t9

where she claims feminists and SJWs doxxed and harassed Sargon and a pro GG woman called LizzyF. I did some digging and ascertained JB was lying, Sargon’s real name is right there on Encyclopedia Dramatica, and LizzyF was doxxed by some 8chan scumbag back in January.

So while I do truly despise Judgybitch, I still don’t think it’s a good idea to dox her. Besides, she hasn’t doxxed anyone herself in a long time, she just lies about other people doing it.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Oh JB copied an article and switched genders? So she lied why am I not surprised?

I’m up for spreading awareness of a terrible person so others can avoid them and call them out of their garbage/call authorities but I agree we shouldn’t stoop as low as doxxing. I do hope however that her husband and children (if she has any knowing she is a constant liar) will discover what she has been doing, know what she truly is and leave her.

sn0rkmaiden
5 years ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if JB’s obnoxious on line persona was her rage outlet, without it I expect she’d be even harder to live with.

Luzbelitx
5 years ago

Hey everyone! Thanks for the warm welcome!

I checked back and it was sn0rkmaiden who mentioned something about a possible “pay back”, which is what confused me about it (I didn’t remember Charleston, but now I recall David had an open thread thread about it, thanks Sunny!). And Alan mentioned revenge as well in a response to that.

Would either of you please explain that part? I find it as creepy as confusing, and I probably don’t want to know, but it’s been haunting me all day…

And special thanks @EJ (TOO), I really appreciate your interest. I’m doing pretty well and this is just a sort of break from lurking, so please just keep being your awesome selves!

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Hi Lux!

He said in his manifesto that he bought the gun two days after the Charleston shootings. He went on to say that each of the bullets had the victims (presumably the Charleston victims) initials on them. I believe he was speaking metaphorically.

The manifesto mentions lots of things though and refers to other mass shootings. I have no doubt this was about revenge, but I suspect it was personal revenge against the cameraman who made the complaint that got him fired and the reporter who got the jobs he thought he should have got.

RosaDeLava
RosaDeLava
5 years ago

What pisses me off is that he seems to think his followers are potential mass murderers and yet he goes no further. He comes to the conclusion that there is something about the men that listen to him that makes them potentially dangerous, and he doesn’t think of doing anything with this knowledge. He doesn’t tell his followers to seek help, and he doesn’t suggest adressing the issues that “”make”” (notice my big quotation marks) those men act in such a way, even if the conclusion is just “women”. No, he only wants to save his own, stinky, barely-wiped ass. Can we point out this article the next time he says he’s just trying to help men?

And about JB… while I do think doxing her is plain wrong, I still can’t get over the fact that she tells feminists to deal with threats for speaking out, while she hides under a pseudonym.

RoscoeTCat
RoscoeTCat
5 years ago

On meaningful gun control in the US: I don’t expect to see it in my lifetime. What will it take???

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

RoscoeTCat | August 28, 2015 at 6:16 pm
On meaningful gun control in the US: I don’t expect to see it in my lifetime. What will it take???

The death via old age of the politicians who value guns and the ability to have them more than our lives.

RoscoeTCat
RoscoeTCat
5 years ago

@Paradoxical Intention: That may be so…

RoscoeTCat
RoscoeTCat
5 years ago

My mother & sister both purchased handguns several years ago; one of the reasons they gave was that they believed gun control was right around the corner.

I’ve heard that gun sales skyrocket after a mass shooting; don’t know if it’s true or not.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

I’ve heard that gun sales skyrocket after a mass shooting; don’t know if it’s true or not.

That sounds like it would be true.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Yup, gun sales shoot up (pun not intended)

Partly because people think it might be handy to have a gun if someone else starts shooting and partly because they worry gun control may suddenly be imposed so best stock up in case.

Nequam
Nequam
5 years ago

I wish I had been wrong about some asshole claiming the shootings were faked.

I really, really do.

Luzbelitx
5 years ago

@Alan

Ugh, so a multiple shooter invoked victims of other multiple shooters, while shooting the one person he wanted revenge on?

I can’t even…

I’m really glad there isn’t such an widespread belief on legal guns for everyone here, I don’t think I would have made it alive this farvotherwise.

As for Roosh, his attempt to paint a possible shooter on his own ranks as some random chance is unbelievable.

As in, I can hardly believe he buys his own shit and/or expects people to buy it.

Lots of love to everyone… This is the part were I “nope” away into lurkdom.

Falconer
5 years ago

It was good to see you again, Luz. I hope you feel less “nope” soon.

CK
CK
5 years ago

Mammothers…
Join Roosh’s Forum

And if all the signers of the A’zon book removal petition joined his forum… the “long term longevity” of his forum would be in peril

misseb47
misseb47
5 years ago

Zeb Berryman-“Ugh. Seriously? He needs to tell his followers not to mock peoples deaths? WHHHAAAAT THHEEEE FUUUCKKK.”

I know, right? I thought that not mocking peoples deaths would just be common human decency, but apparently it isn’t. O.O Common human decency is not that common with these people. In fact it seems to have become extinct.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
5 years ago

Take care of yourself, Luz. We’re thinking of you.

Old cartoon, but still relevant. Unfortunately.

http://thismodernworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/TMW2011-01-12acolorlowres-copy.jpg

Mickey Mouse
Mickey Mouse
4 years ago

The U.S. In the Middle East = The Iraq invasion. The Middle East in the U.S. = Roosh. It’s dumb and dumber, isn’t it? It’s just a case of men who don’t understand each other’s culture. U.S. man feels that he has to invade the Middle East because Middle East man doesn’t do business properly, so Middle East man retaliates by telling American man how to be macho, and threatens to sleep forcefully with American man’s mate. It’s quite simple, primate behaviour really when you think about it.

Jenny
4 years ago

Also it is important to note that there are several Police reports against Daryush Roosh Valizadeh.

He silenced through intimidation, rape threats, death threats and harassment multiple women to talk against him:

Roosh V found some of her nude photos, and went after her online.

“He posted it and incited people to wonder if they would sexually assault me, saying that he would.” she says. “I received a lot of death and rape threats on Facebook, online, on his forum, my nude pictures have been posted everywhere.”

Nix has pressed charges against him with the Montreal police.

More disturbing advices directly from Roosh’s mouth or from his rape manuals “Bang”:

“When No Means Yes” Roosh V blog and his rape guides

“Here’s a guide:

“No!” when you try to take off her jeans or shirt means… “Yes! You need to turn me on a lot more.”
“No” when you try to take off her bra means… “Yes! Try again in five minutes.”
“No” when you try to take off her panties means… “Yes! Don’t give up now!” ”

[Roosh has apparently never had consensual sex. He says he’s always told No! by women, usually many times. He brags about raping a woman who said no 50 times]

“How Many No’s Does It Take To Enter A Vagina?” Roosh V blog and “Best of Roosh volume 1” rape guide

“It will be rare that you have sex with a girl who gives you no resistance before sex. You will
always receive some No’s

Receiving a “No!” simply begins the seduction process.

Therefore when you first try to take off her clothes, she will resist even though she may
absolutely want to have sex with you. Simply pause your escalation and try again a few minutes
later. If you really believe the first “No!” that she gives you in the bedroom, she will think
of you either as a fool or a homosexual.

I haven’t measured how many average “No!”’s I received before banging, but sometimes it surpasses
ten.

I also get three or four “No!”’s when it comes time to sex. If you
aren’t getting no’s at these stages, that means you are taking way too long to escalate (God
knows how many bangs you’ve lost out on because of it).

With one of my more recent seductions
in Poland on a girl of accomplished beauty, I received over fifty No’s from start to end.
Thankfully, I did not give up before receiving my wonderful prize.

American Girls Don´t Use Condoms Anymore by Rooshv

“Middle class white girls are, hands down, the dirtiest, filthiest type of girl I’ve been with. Most of them only care about using condoms for the first instance of sex, and a sizable percentage don’t even care if you use one at all for that first time, whether or not it’s a one-night stand where she has only known you for a couple hours.

Raise your hand if you’re scared of AIDS.

I don’t see many hands out there. The only people scared these days are OCD freaks who can’t get laid, because it’s just not on the radar anymore. It’s a way they can rationalize their miserable, sexless existence. I even sense that a lot of people have accepted they’ll contract HIV at some point in their lives. Girls have told me in sweet embrace that I probably have it, but are willing to bang without a condom anyway.

If I was as dirty as them, I could probably have raw dog sex with 95% of all white girls, regardless of socioeconomic background. I only have met one girl that was super serious about using condoms, but I eventually fucked her without a condom too, so actually I change that to 100%. I could bang every white girl who lives in the United States without a condom if I desired, within three dates. I’m not kidding. I could do most of them raw dog on the same night. Here’s how to do it…

1. For the first time appear really studious about using condoms.Tell her “I like to be safe” and “I’m very careful.””

Now, Roosh explains that he lies about his STDs, and that all the men should lie about their STDs or if they were ever tested, this way assuring that raw unprotected sex will happen.

” 2. Ask her if she’s been tested a few minutes after the first bang. Say, “I’m not trying to get anything.” This makes her think you’re extra cautious. She’ll ask if you’ve been tested. Say “Yes.” Don’t worry, she won’t ask when you were tested, how many girls you fucked raw since you were tested, and what you were actually tested for. Even if you’ve never been tested, you can say “Not recently, but I’m 99% sure I don’t have anything,” and that’ll be just fine for her.”

At the next step, Rooshv simply instructs men to straight out rape:

“3. When gearing up for the second act of sex, just diddle her vagina with your dick and stuff it in. If she objects, try again next time. By the fourth of fifth time, you’ll be banging raw guaranteed.

I’ve had several girls insert my beautiful naked cock inside them while chanting “Get a condom !” ”

Then Roosh rationalizes his rapes, by saying it was the girls´ fault, because they are all “sluts”:

“At first I thought I was just sleeping with the sluttiest of sluts, but I looked at their middle class background (sometimes upper class), and their circle of seemingly normal friends, and realized that it wasn’t the type of girl but the culture that she was raised in.

I’ll tell you when I should’ve been scared straight. Years ago I was dating this girl for a while (“a while”—hah) and did it raw dog one time. She wasn’t on the pill so it was the exception, but in that moment of weakness I ravaged her with my snake.

Girls who love sex can’t go long without it, so some prying on my part revealed that she fucks quite a bit. In order words, I was on the tail end of a cock bender so legendary that it’s a miracle her vagina offered any resistance at all upon penetration.

A couple weeks afterwards I asked her why she let me have sex with her without using a condom.

“I trust my instincts,” she said.

“What exactly does that mean?” I asked.

“Well, do you have anything?”

“No. Well, I’m 99% sure I don’t.”

“Okay then. So then my instinct was right.”

There are women whose “instinct” told them that having raw dog sex with me was safe! Me! A guy who basically fucks women for a living! I continued to have the “occasional” slip

Girls are supposedly the more intuitive of our species, but if so many feel right about fucking me without a condom, then I must conclude that they don’t know shit. They’re all dirty little whores who truly disgust me with their sex habits. I don’t care if she’s a lawyer, government worker, or environmentalist—if she lives in a metropolitan city and fucked you by the third date, she’s a bucket of disease”

A larger list of the many documented actual rapes that Daryush Valizadeh admits to himself:

The first of the very many girls that Roosh V describes raping:

“While walking to my place, I realized how drunk she was.

In America, having sex with her would have been rape, since she legally couldn’t give her consent.
I was sober, but I can’t say I cared or even hesitated.

I won’t rationalize my actions, but having sex is what I do.”

The second:

“I got down her bra and panties, but she kept saying, “No ! No !”
I was so turned on by her beauty and petite figure that I told myself she’s not walking out my door without getting fucked.

At that moment I accepted the idea of getting locked up in a Polish prison to make it happen.

I put her on her stomach and went deep, pounding her pussy like a pedophyle.”

3rd girl that Roosh V describes raping:

“It took four hours and at least thirty repetitions of “No, Roosh, No !”
until my penis entered her vagina.

The sex was painful for her”

“The True Nature of Women” – by RooshV

“Within every woman on this planet, regardless of her education or background, is a bitch, a cunt, a slut, a golddigger, a flake, a cheater, a backstabber, a narcissist and an attention whore”

“6 Qualities Of A Good Rape” – by RooshV

“I just saw the movie 300, which had an awful rape scene — it didn’t arouse me at all.

Here is what makes a good rape:

The key to a good rape scene is seeing the girl change from hating it to loving it.

She has to want to be raped again.”

“I did not get aroused during that scene,
like I normally do when watching rape.”

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