MRAs: The real injustice is that men had to use Ashley Madison to cheat, while women just have to exist

You know what? Forget the meme.

Is there any data on women vs. men ratio on Ashley Madison?

Ask, and ye shall receive…

Turns out that very few of the female profiles were genuine, judging by how many of them actually used the site. Mostly, it’s just a sausagefest.

@Arctic Ape:

Tropical rainforest areas have been historically described as “Green Inferno” because they were generally unsuitable for white colonial settlement and unpleasant for white explorers and traders who visited there.

Pooping yourself to death: Nature’s way of saying “Stay home, jerkass.”

Hah. Yeah, there’s a huge line of men waiting to be “selected” by an opinionated chubby (muscular, and quite healthy, thank you) nerd woman.

I am also a nerd woman! Well, more of a geek?

I do not want to gain any beta’s attention or suck out any life forces. I would however, like to teach the world to math in perfect harmony.

Dear Tim,

Women don’t have to exist, right?

Every fertilised human zygote has roughly a fifty-fifty chance of becoming female (I believe in Britain currently the ratio is slightly in favour of boys, but am not a biologist so can’t speculate as to why.) Therefore, women are an ever-present lurking danger in our biology. No matter how hard we strive, some people might be born as women. The only way to prevent it is to not have humans being born.

I mean, can’t women just go away

Many of them do go away, into feminist or women-only spaces. This is such a space. You appear to have followed them here.

and leave behind a replacement technology that makes them obsolete

Don’t be silly, women can’t technology. Their tiny little brains could never handle the difficulty of such logical thinking. Just ask Ada Lovelace. /s

– plus internet porn?

Who is going to pose for the internet porn if there are no women? Think about the logistics of how this works.

Can’t women just limit their influence over men to spreading their legs for sex

That doesn’t sound like influence to me. That sounds like the opposite of influence. Influence is when they get us to do things we weren’t inclined to do anyway. Are you saying that if a consenting woman you’re attracted to spreads her legs, you aren’t inclined to want to sleep with her and she’s forcing you to do it?

and childbirth

But if we allow childbirth, then we run the risk that people will have daughters! Which, as mentioned above, is the ever-real danger in our genetics which prevents us from living in a world of female nonexistence. Think, man, think!

– and then shut up?

I’m puzzled by the “and then.” Do you not want them to shut up during sex? I thought you didn’t want women to influence your desires for sex. This is something of a confused message you’re giving out.

Your vagina is only useful to me as long as I can use it in a hand like way for masturbation purposes.

Use a vagina in a handlike way?

That’s a very weird image. Vaginas aren’t prehensile, you know. They can grip somewhat, but they’re not very good at fine manipulation. Do you even biology?

Maybe I’m wrong though. Quick straw poll – who here has a handlike vagina?

The whole creating another cretin that will use up the worlds resources is all you, ladies.

Ah. So in fact you’re in favour of the extinction of humanity? Given your first line, this now becomes clearer. Please permit me to take a radical stance against this position, as I would quite like humanity not to go extinct.

If it makes you feel better, saitonexus, I also hope that Tim forgot his sarcasm tags.

Because otherwise…

…Yeah.

Tim probably didn’t forget his sarcasm tags, and it probably is a pathetic excuse for drive by trolling, but I like clinging to hope?

By the way, did you ever get a Welcome Package? If not, here you go!

Alan:

Literally it means ‘underneath’ hence the Hades connection. It’s the same root as ‘inferior’

Incidentally, there’s a similar concept in Finnish. That is, our pre-Christian Land of Dead was literally called “Underground” (or alternatively “Otherside”), a word whose archaic form (Manala) is now associated with Christian Hell (Helvetti). Also, there is still “go Underground” as a colloquial expression for death.

On Inferno Green: am I the only one who’s also getting a strong anti-environmentalist vibe from this trailer? From what I can tell, the young straw Green

(1) Tries to get the U.S. army to invade basically all of South America to stop illegal logging.

(2) Goes on a trip to the Amazon with a group of like-minded straw Greens to do – what exactly? Eco-terrorism? Live among nature? Tie themselves to trees? Pick any one of a hundred things not actually representative of Green politics.

(3) Learns through the power of racism that the rainforest isn’t as great as she made it out to be, and is saved from her own ignorance.

This is all eerily similar to the White Supremacist argument that people who aren’t as racist as them just don’t know how shitty other races are; it’s just an incredibly patronizing way of accusing their opponents of elitism. So, between the racism and the anti-Green sentiment, this movie should do extremely well with the American religious right.

@contrapangloss:

…complete formatting carnage by a starving metaphorical pachyderm.

This made my day. Also @EJ with the phrase “handlike vaginas” 🙂

Sadly The Green Inferno is for real, it’s a homage to my least favorite exploitation sub-genre, the Italian “cannibal” films of the 1970s and 1980s.

As the Wikipedia points out, the genre was influenced by the Mondo films, pseudo-documentaries that film very staged recreations of things that may or may not have actually happened as a breathless narrator tells the viewers how amazing and shocking everything on screen is. The most famous and fakiest Mondos are the infamous Faces of Death films. A lot of Mondo films were travelogues that featured native ceremonies and rites (fire walking! adult circumcision!) which purportedly revealed the mysterious hidden ways of isolated “primitive” tribes.

Looking for new subject matter for their gorefests, Italian exploitation filmmakers basically switched out zombies and organized crime for cannibals and, walla, the skeeziest and most racist cult sub-genre was born.

I’ve only seen the extraordinarily unpleasant Cannibal Holocaust, but I’ve heard they all basically have the same plot: a group of Westerners go to the jungle and get terrorized and killed by a cannibal tribe. The filmmakers were partly playing off of the 1961 disappearance of Michael Rockefeller, who was rumored to have been eaten by cannibals in a New Guinea jungle.

In Cannibal Holocaust, the found footage predecessor of The Blair Witch Project, a documentary crew has gone missing in the Amazon jungle but their footage was recovered and it makes up most of the film. We see that in order to get exciting Mondo footage, the film crew had terrorized the tribe, shooting their live stock, burning their homes and raping a young woman. The native people were quite reasonably pissed off at this point so they chase the filmmakers around in the jungle, kill them off and mutilate their corpses. The only female crew member, who had tried to stop the first rape, is raped before being killed.

I fucking hate this movie. Cannibal Holocaust manages to encapsulate everything that’s terrible about exploitation films while completely lacking everything that makes them good or enjoyable. It’s morally bankrupt, hell it pretends to be a snuff film, yet the director makes a hollow attempt at social commentary and/or a satire of the media since characters condemn the crew for attacking an entire village to get exciting documentary footage. I’d argue the main reason the director made the film crew incredibly obnoxious was so viewers would want to see these assholes grotesquely die.

For an extra bad vibe bonus, the film includes a very real sequence of someone butchering a giant tortoise on screen.

Again, I fucking hate Cannibal Holocaust, which is considered the Citizen Kane of Italian cannibal movies. I guess Eli Roth has affection for the genre but I very much do not, to the point where I don’t see how a worthwhile film will come out of a homage to this misbegotten genre.

Finally, in Cannibal Holocaust the doc crew do awful things and their deaths are a direct result of their actions so, at least theoretically in some way, the film sort of doesn’t vilify the native tribe. The activists in Green Inferno seem to be portrayed as naive do-gooders who presumably don’t deserve horrible fates, which means the native people are vicious and malevolent aggressors.

I don’t see how making Green Inferno was even remotely a good idea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibal_film

Thanks, Skiriki. I’m not an expert on folklore or etymology, I just assumed that Tuoni was a variant of Tuonpuoleinen, which I assumed to mean “Otherside”. Then Tuonela would translate as “Otherplace”. Tuonpuoleinen is sometimes still used in modern Finnish as an expression for afterlife.

I also have this shaky understanding that Manala or Mana is a variant of “Underground” which normally would be spelled maanala or maan alla. The etymology is somewhat obscure to modern Finns, who usually associate Manala with Hell or generic death. AFAIK, Hell is a word of Germanic origin, referring to a pagan deity of dead. It was then borrowed to Finnish in Christian context.

I read somewhere that Sami people, whose language is related to Finnish, imagined an underground “Heaven” or rather regular world but with better hunting grounds.

Helvetia is a funny curiosity, but a similar word for Hell was first formulated in Swedish (IIRC, Helvete). Maybe it originated from frustration because English-speakers tend to mix up the Swedes and the Swiss.