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#Gamergaters and 8channers using #AshleyMadison leak to go after “SJWs,” game developers

Outstanding work as always, guys!
Outstanding work as always, guys!

Demonstrating the keen grasp of ethics for which they are so well-known, an assortment of assholes and trolls associated with #GamerGate and 8chan are eagerly sorting through the Ashley Madison data dump in search of people to smear.

The former #GamerGate bigwig formerly known as Internet Aristocrat, now calling himself MisterMetokur, helped to lead the charge on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/MisterMetokur/status/633820133065031680

https://twitter.com/MisterMetokur/status/634074455485083648

Naturally, his Tweets on the subject received dozens of likes and retweets from card-carrying, hashtag-using #GamerGaters.

On #GamerGate hub 8chan, meanwhile, the anons of /v/ and /pol/ searched the hacked database for the email addresses of game developers, academics, media professionals, and anyone else they could think of.

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Over on Reddit’s KotakuInAction, the regulars rejoiced in the discovery that Gawker writer Sam Biddle, a longtime #GamerGate bete noire, had briefly had an AshleyMadison account, which he (quite plausibly) explained he had used for research.

But not everyone on KiA accepted that explanation:

g-divA nice grandson 18 points 3 hours ago With some writers, I'd totally believe it. But Sam? Yeah, not for a second. permalinksavereportgive goldreply [–]AntonioOfVeniceRuns /r/polygon  Karma King of late April 2015 17 points 3 hours ago Sam Biddle deactivated his account because he didn't need it for an affair. Women are falling over each other to do it with this very attractive man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jtmFlUg56w permalinksaveparentreportgive goldreply [–]EddieDombrowski 8 points 3 hours ago Is that even a man? He looks like a child, how old is he? Acts like one too. permalinksaveparentreportgive goldreply [–]AcherosIs fake journalism [score hidden] an hour ago I can't tell if its the audio quality, or the song over him, or what...But he literally, actually sounds like he is mentally retarded. Like, I'm not even joking or being insulting. in that video, he actually sounds like he has downs syndrome. Guys...What if...What if we've been going after someone with downs syndrome this entire time?

It’s about ethics in using stolen data to humiliate enemies and make Down Syndrome jokes about them.

H/T — @srhbutts

 

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GiJoel
GiJoel
5 years ago
Nequam
Nequam
5 years ago

On the flipside, looks like Josh Duggar graduated to adult women via Ashley Madison.

andiexist
andiexist
5 years ago

Oh, stars above. Nope nope nope. D:

Nequam
Nequam
5 years ago

Damn, ninja’d.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

Who/what is Ashley Madison?

Somebody/something that can finally land these dipshits behind bars where they belong (note to lurking trolls: Not because I don’t like them, but because they keep breaking the laws of every damn country on Earth), I hope.

Some sort of username
Some sort of username
5 years ago

Could someone explain what’s going on here? I don’t understand, Gamergaters have a bunch of profile details about some dating website and are looking for people who call GG out on its bullshit on it?

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

So ethical to go after every bit of dirt on your “opponents” instead of just attacking their arguments.

Nope, they have to somehow go off about how they’re all cheaters, which has no bearing on games or them doing their job as games journalists at all. (And I highly doubt every single GGer has always been faithful to their partners either.)

Ethics!

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs | August 19, 2015 at 7:22 pm
Who/what is Ashley Madison?

Somebody/something that can finally land these dipshits behind bars where they belong (note to lurking trolls: Not because I don’t like them, but because they keep breaking the laws of every damn country on Earth), I hope.

Some sort of username | August 19, 2015 at 7:23 pm
Could someone explain what’s going on here? I don’t understand, Gamergaters have a bunch of profile details about some dating website and are looking for people who call GG out on its bullshit on it?

Ashley Madison is a website that allows married folks (mostly men) to find someone to cheat on their spouses with.

And apparently this is relevant for nothing more than just making every anti-GGer look bad, and this has nothing to do with “ethics in journalism”, more than just making their opponents look bad (and let’s face it, it does, but it has nothing to do with journalism).

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Ashley Madison is a dating site specifically for people who are married/in relationships but want to hook up for affairs; hence the blackmail potential.

If I point out I learned that on BBC Radio 4 News today would that sound too much like “er, or at least that’s what I’ve heard”? 🙂

Mewens
Mewens
5 years ago

To catch everyone up: Ashley Madison is a dating site that caters specifically to married people, or people in long-term relationships. It’s an affairs matchmaker.

Some time ago, some unknown group of hackers said they’d accessed its servers and downloaded details on all 35 million accounts, including GPS coords, credit card details, emails, etc. They said they’d release the info unless Ashley Madison shut down, accusing it of lying about account security and creating fake women profiles.

One no-shutdown later, here we all are.

Mewens
Mewens
5 years ago

OH MY GOD NINJA’D TWICE

NINJAS ONLY ATTACK ONE A TIME, C’MON

Some sort of username
Some sort of username
5 years ago

@Alan

On Radio FOUR? That seems somewhat unusual but hey, if that’s what you saaaay…

And glad to see Gamergate is still the shining beacon of journalistic integrity that the gaming industry apparently… needs? Do people actually care about games journalism? I know I’ve never paid attention to a single “official” game review in my life.

dslucia1
dslucia1
5 years ago

It’s like that last guy is just on the cusp of reaching the “are we the baddies?” cliff, but he’s so entrenched in the awfulness of GambleGarm that he had to turn around the moment he saw the sign that said, “Moment of Realization Ahead”.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

Hmm. So, I thought that “Metokur” might mean something and asked Old Uncle Google, and apparently it does… Perhaps a fuck tonne more than he meant.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

@everyone

Ah, thanks. ^^;

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Mewens | August 19, 2015 at 7:31 pm
OH MY GOD NINJA’D TWICE

NINJAS ONLY ATTACK ONE A TIME, C’MON

THAT’S WHAT WE WANT YOU TO THINK!

History Nerd
5 years ago

At least this could possibly mean that Josh Duggar isn’t molesting kids anymore. Though that’s really only a faint speck of hope since his parents didn’t get him adequate treatment when he was young. So it’s more likely his behavior got more out of control and he’s old enough that it’s much less amenable to change.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

@some sort of username

Well, I would like it if more was being done about big-name companies like EA paying big-name reviewers like IGN under the table for perfect tens (I know that sounds like a conspiracy theory, but IGN’s admitted to it), because that shit is tantamount to scamming the people who get duped into buying broken games – but #GamerGate’s openly and proudly for paid advertisements reviews of “AAA” shovelware, so they’d fail at their mission statement even if they weren’t just a tulle-thin front for a hate group. =P

dave
dave
5 years ago

“I know that sounds like a conspiracy theory, but IGN’s admitted to it”

It does sound like a conspiracy. Where did they admit this?

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

I’m officially against the hack, but reveling in the Duggar news.

History Nerd
5 years ago

The GGer’s are basically claiming that leftist game journalists are conspiring with indie developers to promote games that “real gamers” don’t like and shove “political correctness” down everyone’s throats. Or at least that’s the closest approximation to a logically coherent position they seem to support.

Flora
Flora
5 years ago

As satisfying as it is to see assholes get their comeuppance (of COURSE Josh Duggar had an account) this is so super squicky, no different than sharing the stolen celebrity nudes. This is private information that has been stolen. It’s unethical enough to use this information to expose Family Values hypocrites, but game devs? How does that even matter?

scalyllama
5 years ago

There are still GamerGaters? o~0

ColeYote
ColeYote
5 years ago

@ SFHC and SSOU: Ashley Madison is a dating website targeted at people looking to cheat on their SO. I’m sure you can imagine people who use it would prefer people not know about that.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Flora

One of the exceptions we have in England in terms of restrictions on the right to privacy is the exposing of hypocrisy or correcting a false narrative.

So theoretically someone who either evangelised against adultery or made a big thing about how they would never cheat wouldn’t necessarily be able to take action against someone who breached their privacy in this way.

However someone who’d never expressed a view on the subject wouldn’t loose their right to privacy just because their conduct, having an affair, might be frowned upon.

Of course, that’s a legal position rather than a consideration of the ethics of the situation.

Some sort of username
Some sort of username
5 years ago

@SFHC

I looked through all of that and I have to say that it’s absolutely hilarious Internet Asshat is using THAT particular name as his new handle. The fact that the legacy of that group is now one of those “gosh darned SJWz” who has a gaming channel that tries its best to be all inclusive, when that’s pretty much everything he stands AGAINST, is endlessly amusing.

They also seem pretty cool, check out the trailer for it.

katz
katz
5 years ago

One of the exceptions we have in England in terms of restrictions on the right to privacy is the exposing of hypocrisy or correcting a false narrative.

Interesting. So over there, if someone got an abortion and then was out picketing an abortion clinic the next day, could you actually legally tell everyone that she got an abortion?

Flora
Flora
5 years ago

@katz

The physician patient relationship has its own legal protection, but from my reading of what Alan said, if you used stolen medical records from that clinic to make that information public that wouldn’t be illegal?

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Katz

Probably. If she could raise an argument that she wasn’t being hypocritical, say that the ‘shock’ of the procedure had changed her views, then she might be able to get an injunction, but the courts would probably accept there was a legitimate public interest in pointing out that whatever her views bow she’d availed herself of a procedure she was trying to deny to others.

Medical info also attracts more protection but the key case on this involves Naomi Campbell and the courts said it was ok to report that she was attending Narcotics Anonymous (the reporter pretended to be an addict to attend the meetings) as she’d previously denied taking drugs but drew the line at allowing details of what she said in the meetings.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

I don’t what laws are elsewhere, but in the US it publishing leaked data is protected under freedom of press. Which has its good and bad points.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Flora

In the UK only lawyer-client privilege has the sort of protection that might be familiar in the US. We do have rules about the protection of personal data but you have a defence where you can show a public interest (not just what is of interest to the public) in revealing that info unless it’s the lawyer-client thing.

greydawnbreaking
greydawnbreaking
5 years ago

All of a sudden, I’m feeling a lot more sympathy towards your twitter-partner of yesterday, Mina. I want to find these guys and just ask them, over and over, to “define ethics”. Because seriously?!

The difference being, of course, that you use the word “consent” in a way that everyone recognizes as the definition of the word. These clowns seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that the meaning of “ethics” negates literally everything they are doing.

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John Sartoris
5 years ago

Sam Biddle “quite plausibly” had an account used for research? You do great journalism, but that’s a statement of pure unbiased advocacy for a subject. You, yourself, should know that journalists engaging in questionable activities for research almost always share that information with their editors to protect themselves.

While Gamergate and MRA’s doxxing anybody–including Biddle–because of this unethical hacking is still loathsome. Biddle’s past writings–including his horrid “bring back bullying tweet”–hardly point to someone who would never use Ashley Madison.

Flora
Flora
5 years ago

@Alan

In Canada, we also have the American style protection of patient relationships. There are some key exceptions, like child endangerment, public health concerns, etc, but alas, being a hypocritical asshole is not among them.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Flora

We’ve just had a huge national debate about this over here. I found it quite interesting as I used to do legal work for the newspapers at the heart of the scandal. It ended up with a judicial inquiry.

Hey, just realised this actually *was* about “ethics in journalism”! 🙂

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leveson_Inquiry

I guess?
I guess?
5 years ago

I mean. Potentially if you found journalists on there and could somehow prove they slept with a dev, this could be potentially viable to get excited about… But having an account doesn’t say who they hooked up with and proves nothing over all. So… I don’t know? Some people just need some news to get excited over? I guess?

katz
katz
5 years ago

(For the record, I would tend to think that revealing that someone’s personal medical records would be unethical even if it weren’t illegal.) (Even in the case of hypocritical assholes.)

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

I agree with katz.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Katz

I would generally agree but I can think of possible expectations; especially if someone was espousing views that could be seen as dangerous.

Consider the following:

Someone who says organ transplants are unethical has received a donated kidney.

A Jehova’s witness has had a life saving blood transfusion.

An anti-vaxxer has had their kids vaccinated.

Even in the last case, where children are involved, I could see it might be ethical to point out that they don’t put themselves or their kids in the same danger they’re willing on others.

Flora
Flora
5 years ago

Ethics aside, from a harm reduction perspective, keeping medical information strictly confidential just makes sense (even for the hypocritical assholes, or maybe even especially so).

zarathustratheserpent
5 years ago

Internet Aristocrat and guys like him are a cancer on Earth.

ultimateprotagonistnerd

This makes me wonder how many GamerGater aligned people were on that website, and if they’ll leak that and blame it on the “SJWs” just like they did when 8channers called in bomb threats on SPJ Airplay… or that other time 8channers doxxed Sargon of Akkad…

A Land Whale
A Land Whale
5 years ago

….but it’s really all about ethics in cheating on your spouse.

ryohji
ryohji
5 years ago

TOO… MUCH… ETHIC.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

@ GiJoel, @Nequam

Josh Duggar? Ashley Madison? Huh!

On the plus side, the people that pay Ashley Madison to set them up with like-minded individuals are all presumably adults. And not his sisters.

And now Gawker is speculating that he had an OKCupid account too.

I feel badly for his wife, who probably believed his BS. Four kids, one of them a newborn.

Rui
Rui
5 years ago

“ogg booga scary gamergate!”

Is this the radical left’s new schtic? Instead of blame bush, it’s all blame gamergate. To hell with evidence, if there is none y’all will pretend there is and go along with it, because everyone else will attack you if you don’t.

in b4 I’m banned for speaking against the grain.

banned@4chan.org
banned@4chan.org
5 years ago

“Can’t wait to see pics of blizzard employees dressed in bondage.”

No, that’s fetlife, not Ashley Madison.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

Why would they be wanting a Blizzard employee anyway?

Johanna Roberts
5 years ago

This is all I can think of.