Almost universally despised pickup artist Roosh Valizadeh — you may know him from such hashtags as #RooshIsARapist and #RooshVOut — is declaring victory after apparently giving a talk in Toronto to a couple of dozen guys who are too embarrassed or cowardly to show their faces in public.
Yesterday, Roosh posted the picture above to his Twitter, complete with a newspaper to prove the date, black censor squares over the faces of alleged attendees who evidently don’t want anyone to know that they were part of Roosh’s great victory, and weird dark lines around his legs that make it look like he’s been pasted onto a random pic of some random dudes in a hotel conference room, but whatev, sometimes crappy pics are just crappy pics.
Assuming the pic is real, Roosh’s fans are apparently afraid that the dreaded #SJWs might do to them what Roosh and his pals have been energetically doing to any of Roosh’s enemies they have been able to identify. That is, doxxing and slandering them online. (Never mind that the only person with a public doxxiing operation here is Roosh.)
On Roosh’s forum, his anonymous fanboys celebrated Roosh’s alleged victory and their own alleged heroism. One poster, naming himself after an Ayn Rand hero, was so excited he couldn’t even type straight:
I was at the speech. I was at the Q&A. I was at the dinner. The feeling was electric all of us men, collectively, started to understand neomasculinity.. the what it feels like to be a neomasculinist. …
BRAVO Roosh, and congrats to my fellow brothers for such flawless execution of an exercise planned with military precision.
Another anonymous friend of Roosh offered his enthusiastic support:
Congratulations to everyone involved in the Battle of Montreal and Toronto.
This is a stunning victory for freedom of expression, and freedom of speech.
He went on to dis the dozens of people who actually showed up in public to protest Roosh’s speech. (You know, without black squares over their faces.)
These twisted individuals claim to be so collectively hurt, so vulnerable, and so down trodden…this latest protest was a perfect public demonstration of their collective mental illness, and their attempts to destroy any trace of strong masculinity left in the culture.
When you speak to them (especially the men), you realize how their spirit has been completely broken and warped by modern culture, outrage porn, and digital technology addiction. I found the men within this group far more pathetic than the females, which was amazing. I truly believe that the men present did not understand what they were protesting, but attempting to solicit attention for their own narcissistic goals.
I was honestly expecting them to begin burning a copy of George Orwell’s “1984,” and talk about how some “freedom of speech” shouldn’t be “free.” However, their protest was so feeble and limp wristed, it didn’t even have the energy of a four day old cup of coffee, sitting abandoned outside of a tim hortons rubbish bin.
Well, ok, Mr. Overextended Metaphor Man.
Another alleged attendee reported:
Words can’t really describe the feelings we all had following the lecture (my third, following Washington and New York and worth every penny). So many exceptional men and ideas were shared on Saturday and well into this morning. It was great to meet everyone in attendance and those who came out Friday night …
This is a testament to the discipline and drive of many strong willed, intelligent men who have learned game and who do not give up in the face of adversity.
“You went toe to toe with the universe, and you won,” added yet another guy who posts online under a pseudonym.
If by “won” he means “convinced hundreds of thousands of people in Canada and around the world what a creepy rapey asshole you are,” I guess Roosh did win.
Congratulations!
Still another declared:
I think RooshV could be the next president in the next 10-15 years.
Uh, the president of what?
And if you can’t think of a country that might possibly want to have Roosh running it, I have some suggestions.
Indeed; it ranks up there with the Bay of Pigs invasion.
They’re probably re-writing the syllabus at Sandhurst and Westpoint even as we speak.
August 10: Mock Roosh V for complaining to the police about his opponents — who sought him out, threw beer in his face, screamed “You’re a piece of shit!” at him, chased and taunted him all the way to his front door, and doxed the address of the condo where he was staying.
August 16: Mock audience members of Roosh V’s lecture for believing that they have something to fear from Roosh V’s opponents.
*slow clap*
Cannot un-imagine Roosh Wormtongue.
My favorite thing is that the super fan thinks politicians will lose seats over this. And he thinks SJWs are irrational?
And I thought PUA wasn’t political. They always come here to tell us it’s about men improving themselves. It isn’t anti-woman, feminists are making a big deal over nothing, etc. Now, all of a sudden it’s a battle, they want to effect elections, PUA is about no less than defeating social justice forever!
Oh, for fuck sake. Had to be a Rhoosh the rapist apologist is back again?
I guess Margaret Atwood is going to have to change her quote for all these cry babies in team Rhoosh. Men are afraid women will throw a beer at them. Women are afraid men will kill them.
Poor menz.
@HTBS
Funny how you leave out the parts where Roosh (admitted rapist) when to a bar that had specifically banned him after his how-to-rape lecture to target drunk women for raping. Yes we’re going to mock Roosh for complaining about a beer when he’s a RAPIST who’s committed far worse assaults. In Roosh world rape is OK, but having a beer thrown at him is a crime against humanity. When Roosh doxxes people it’s because those evil SJWs need to be punished for opposing him, but when a woman doxxes his temporary address (which isn’t nearly as thorough and life-ruining as what he’s asked his followers to do). But of course as we all know you never defend Roosh’s victims only him, I wonder why?
LOL at Roosh for president. He’s not fit to preside over an ant farm. Maybe I’d let him manage flea circus.
I watched three minutes of the Ukrainian talk show and couldn’t watch anymore. I wanted to vom in my mouth when they insinuated a pregnant woman was asking to have a man solicit her for prostitution. Wtf.
It reminds me of watching Caso Cerrado, and the judge said a woman deserved someone filming her during sex and posting it online without her permission. Nevermind the fact that it’s a felony offense.
So sick and tired of these misogynistic attitudes.
DEFCOCK ? WTF? This is what guys paid 59$ to talk about in the basement of a Howard Johnson’s… cock?
Now this is all starting to make sense…
Roosh acts like there were police blocades and military checkpoints and helicopters searching the street for sight of him. But did the city actually… you know… do anything? Sure, the mayor said he wasn’t welcome, and some of his venues cancelled, but apart from that he wasn’t exactly chased around (save by protestors I guess, but literally all you need to combat that is a private e-mail channel).
His “victory” was finding a little hole-in-the-wall place that hadn’t heard of him or didn’t care, and sending an e-mail to his supporters on a private mailing list. And only having a dozen or so people show up. Wow, such military precision.
That Ukrainian talk show is roughly the equivalent of the American ‘Jerry Springer Show,’ sans physical violence. It’s about bottom-feeding shock jocks provoking outrage. That’s the only reason Roosh was on it.
@Had To Be Said:
The condo was in your hypothetical. Roosh was staying at a hotel.
And yet where are the stories of real-world assault and harassment of feminists by MRAs? While David regularly engages in highly speculative “villain-claiming” as soon as a man commits a mass shooting, no mass shooter has been found even to have written the letters “MRA” on social media, let alone asserted membership in the cause. I am not aware of a single confirmed story of MRAs organizing to find a feminist in public, douse her with beer, scream “You’re a piece of shit!” at her, and taunt her all the way to her front door as she flees. Or anything of the kind.
(I would mention the alleged attack on Danielle d’Entremont as fitting this category, but after eagerly publicizing her accusation at first, David and others seemed to have abandoned Danielle d’Entremont. It’s not clear that David stands by her story. On Mammoth there have been no follow-up posts on the attack, even though it was initially described as a likely MRA targeting a feminist activist specifically for her activism against Men’s Rights groups. Virtually all feminist groups have been equally silent on the matter. It seems to have been tacitly determined that the d’Entremont story should receive no more attention.)
When it comes to making anonymous online threats, MRAs may well take the prize. But when it comes to seeking out and initiating real-world physical contact, it seems like it is the feminists who currently own the field.
So maybe the Atwood quote should be updated to this: Feminists are afraid that MRAs will threaten them online. MRAs are afraid that feminists will track them down and assault them in the real world.
Chalk up another person who’s confused about why 1984 would be getting burnt.
I mean, the obvious answer is that these guys have just never actually read any of those classic dystopia novels and 1984 is the one that came into his mind because it’s way more common for people on the internet to bring it up than Fahrenheit 451, but he obviously knew about the book-burning thing and whyyyyyyyyy…
Also, if the worst thing someone has to fear from feminists is getting beer thrown over them and called a few mean names while they’re being run out of a bar (oh, sorry, and having their extremely-temporary residence revealed to people, I guess?), then I think it’s pretty safe to say that they don’t have much to worry about.
Two Roosh event attendees both mention the apparently indescribable rush of emotions that they experienced. I wish they would at least try to describe it, though, don’t you? What do racist misogynists experience when they hear one of their own speak? An easement of their fear, constantly running in the back of their minds, that women or men of colour will steal their power? Confidence, because a man they are paying tells them that they are exceptional? Righteous anger at the Modern Western Woman, who demands that they wipe their own asses before she cedes full control of her body over to them?
If you can stomach Roosh’s “victory speech” youtube video, he looks like Jim Jones or something when the attendees are shouting and applauding.
Yeah, what heroes these sixty bed-wetters are for holing up at a roach motel in Mississauga (not exactly the Royal York), and then not even having the BALLS to show their faces. And then they claimed “victory”? Just because they didn’t have to leave this complete waste of time and money to face a gauntlet of women holding signs against rape culture and laughing at them for worshipping a beer-soaked piece of shit? What bravery.
*slow clap*
Go home, troll, before we start laughing at YOU, too.
@HTBS
You realize that Roosh has admitted to being a rapist, right? You seem very committed to your rape apologia because you count having a beer thrown as assault but not rape.
@ It had to be said
David’s stance was in fact one of disapproval at the beer swilling.
Now it is true that some people on this site were less than sympathetic to Mr V. I’m one of them.
I’m from a culture that thinks getting a drink thrown over you is the appropriate response when a guy gets fresh with a woman. I’m even a big fan of the traditional slap. I know that’s a bit old school. I suspect many feminists would call me out on that. They may be right.
But for someone to start blubbing like this is the worlds worst atrocity is just pathetic as far as I’m concerned. The proper response is to apologise for being an importunate dickhead in the first place.
If this is *neo*-masculinity; I’ll stick with the old kind thank you very much.
Not to mention plenty of documentation of MRAs harassing real-world feminists. Who was it that was behind “register-her.com?” Was that Elam or someone else? The “registered” women started facing harassment and death threats after their name and addresses were posted on that site.
It’s funny though, HTBS, that you go from “women are afraid of men killing them” to “feminists are afraid of MRAs killing them.” The MRM is a recent label for a small portion of a much larger anti-feminist and anti-woman movement that’s been going on since even before feminism existed. Most of the killers documented on this website probably haven’t heard of MRAs because practically nobody has in the wider world. Yet the viscious misogyny and angry vitriol, the stuff that actually makes the MRM bad, is not limited to the MRM in the slightest. It’d be much more difficult to assert that none of the high-profile mass-murderers would call themselves MRAs had they known the movement existed, since their manifestos echo the same sentiments that card-carrying MRAs express in the safety of their anonymity.
No, the city didn’t do anything. The mayor even explicitly said that free speech is the law of the land. He just encouraged venues to no platform him. (Which, in a town that voted in Rob Ford, was never going to be universal.) Plus, Roosh always said he originally booked Missasauga, which isn’t Toronto proper anyway.
At least on the main protest group (which I was on) for Toronto, there was no talk of finding Roosh or shutting him down by the organizers. The protest became about rape culture in general, and outside of Roosh as catalyst and wonderful example, he became besides the point. Were there individual people who wanted to confront him? Maybe, it is a big city, but there was no organized effort.
Same thing in Montreal, btw. After the first venue cancelled, people wondered if we could find out the second one and ask them to reject him. In the end, it never happened, since that would have required a much more serious, coordinated effort than anyone bothered with. We got wind of one possibility (the one the news crew had) and checked it out, but it wasn’t there, so we went for iced tea.
At the cafe, since there had been rumours of threats to the cafe, some people hung around. There were definitely two or three people who were upset that the organizers had no interest in trying to find Roosh, but these were basically anarchist types who like to pick fights. (I don’t think they found him, or followed through, since that probably WOULD have resulted in violence. )
There were people who decided to tell a bunch of the bars about him, and since people were out and about, once he hit on Jennifer, she knew there were people who would respond to her call when she decided to confront him.
But really, in neither city did the government decide to take any official steps to stop him, and in neither city was there an organized massive manhunt to find him and confront him. Hell, his airBnB or hotel or condo or whatever got released in the video, and outside of the grafitti did anything happen? He was in town for a week after that and nobody hunted him down even with the address out.
@had to forget checking this site for proof
Link
Link is about Jeremiah True — A Voice For Men’s collage associate, who was arrested for…
you guessed it, harassment and abuse.
Need we mention Eliot Rogers?
Also, does that mean that we only count documented feminists when discussing abuse against MRA also, or is any woman still okay?
I find it very telling how our troll seems to think that Roosh’s very mild (and funny) moment of humiliation is somehow worse than a feminist being harassed, stalked and physically assaulted, with injuries requiring medical attention. And how he thinks these guys have reason to be afraid even though THEY are the ones doing the stalking, doxxing, harassing and assaulting, ON THE FUCKING REGULAR.
Margaret Atwood was right. Men fear that women will mock them; women fear that men will KILL them. And in our troll’s eyes, mockery is a fate worse than death.
I fart in your general direction.
And also:
“‘e’s scarpered!”
Oh yeah, and one more thing:
*slow clap*
(yes, Had to Trollin’, we’re mocking you!)
@HTBS
Your other bullshit notwithstanding, what are you trying to accomplish here? You do realize that there exist people who don’t identify as feminists (or allies, a.k.a. manginas in your manguage) who find what Roosh does to be reprehensible and shitty as all fuck?
Yet you pretend that only a feminist would get otraged at Roosh raping women, teaching other men to rape women and getting away with both? What you saw in that video was people expressing their feelings about this man. The beer-throw was from a woman who recognized Roosh the Rapist and acted accordingly. The other people did what any person with a semblance of a moral center would do: make it perfectly clear that men like him are not welcome. Note that nobody physically assaulted him, though I’m sure many (especially people who buy into violent machismo and aspects of toxic masculinity) would have wanted to.
So, the question remains: Why do you have such vested interest in defending a rapist’s right to rape and teach others to rape without a public outcry over the matter?
(another well-known story of MRA-led harassment)