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Roosh V prepares for Toronto by pretending to be Muslim, urging followers to have sex with feminists

How do you do, fellow Muslims?
How do you do, fellow Muslims?

Fresh off the Battle of Montreal, which the almost universally despised pickup artist and rape legalization proponent Roosh Valizadeh insists on considering a grand victory, Roosh and his minions are preparing for what he is imaginatively calling The Battle of Toronto.

He’s starting at a bit of a disadvantage here, given that the mayor of the city has already made it clear Roosh isn’t welcome, and has been urging all possible venues for Roosh’s event to refuse him their services.

Naturally, as was the case in Montreal, Roosh insists on planning his super seekrit “operations” in full view of the public.

First up is what Roosh calls “Operation Fornication,” a three prong plan, announced yesterday, to “Identify” and “Infiltrate” his opponents, who at this point comprise virtually everyone who has ever heard of him, and then to, er, “Inseminate” them.

Roosh, trying his hand at humor, explains that:

The best way to gain the trust of a woman is to fuck her. Therefore I ask you take one for the team and seduce these feminists in order to gain access to their plans. It should be easy since they are constantly surrounded by limp-wristed manginas who provide them with no sexual attraction.

I understand that these women are universally repulsive, overweight, and often in late stages of the devastating Lindy West disease, but no one said spycraft would be easy. A commendation medal is in store for you if you gain intelligence through the fornication that saves the event. Just be sure to record the sex act because these girls are the most likely to falsely accuse you of rape.

Yeah, we saw what happened the last time Roosh tried the whole fornication thing, didn’t we?

Last night, Roosh announced an even sillier new plan that he is calling “Operation Caliphate.” In this plan he will pretend that his noxious ideas and behaviors stem from his Islamic beliefs.

Even though he doesn’t actually have any Islamic beliefs.

Even though he recently ran a post on his Return of Kings blog titled “Islamophobia Is Perfectly Natural” and another on dating Muslims in which the author declared that 

Islam presents a direct threat to a free, open, prosperous, and advancing human civilization with justice and equal rights for all.

Roosh’s new plan is so half-assed that he didn’t even bother to proofread his announcement:

The attacks against me is [sic] obviously Islamophobia. My traditional beliefs on women and family come from my father, who is Muslim (Shia branch). White Canadian feminists forget to check their privilege before attacking our masculine views which stem for [sic] the mighty Koran.

As you know I am a practicing Muslim man. The mosque is my sanctuary in which I strengthen my views on masculinity and patriarchy. The Prophet Muhammad and I stand together against SlutWalks, false rape accusations, obesity, and cat tattoos.

Oh, and that crappy photoshop of Roosh as a Muslim at the top of this post? I didn’t make it. Roosh did, declaring it to be “a recreation of how I look in traditional Muslim garb.”

He’s about as convincing as a Muslim as Vincent Adultman from the Netflix show Bojack Horsemen is at pretending to be, well, an adult man.

I have no idea what Roosh is even trying to do here. Either Roosh thinks feminists are even more gullible than the idiots who’ve paid $50 to see his little talks, or he’s drunk. I can’t tell.

 

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Aunt Edna
Aunt Edna
5 years ago

“As you know I am a practicing Muslim man.”

Wait, what? Is that true? Was this common knowledge?

Sheesh.

There was speculation on some manurespherian sites that the feminist opposition to Roosh stems from Islamophobia (seriously*), so perhaps he’s trying to stoke these allegations and make it seem that, indeed, feminists oppose Roosh because they are bigots.

And, who knows, maybe he even believes it himself now. His grasp of reality is extremely tenuous. It is always what he wants it to be at the moment.

*I’m continually amazed by these dudes’ misunderstanding of feminism.

Steve Green
5 years ago

Montreal is rather a polite city. Toronto not so. With luck, someone will educate this freak on his limitations.

Three prongs? I doubt even his single prong has much to recommend it.

Steve Green
5 years ago

Needless to say, his hijacking of Islam will be deeply offensive to many unaware of his sexist, misogynist, quasi-rapist gibberings.

Scott Hamilton (@Scopi)

This reminds me of way back, when Scientology got mad at the St. Pete Times for reporting on something (Lisa McPhearson, or maybe the trial of LRH’s wife, I forget), and they decided to protest by dressing like Nazis and picketing the Times headquarters. The resulting pictures did not send the message the Scientologists intended.

indifferentsky
5 years ago

That moment when travelling as a Muslim is safer than travelling as a rapist.
Thanks internet. 🙂

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

Valizadeh, seeing that nobody buys his claim that being beered in the face by a woman constitutes assault, has decided to piss off another large segment of the world’s population. One can only assume that he’s trying to provoke someone into doing something tragic.

Rosemary
Rosemary
5 years ago

Is this really a plan, or is Roosh just posting bullshit on his forum out of some misguided attempt to confuse people? Anyway, if it is true, it comes back to what others have said about how “status quo warriors” try and and parrot back social justice language as some sort of ”gotcha!!” to try and make feminists look like hypocrites.

Tanya
5 years ago

Valizadeh is largely and Iranian name, so practicing or not, it is reasonable that he is from a Muslim family, and would likely be assumed to be Muslim by anyone who knew his last name and anything about Iran.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

(Testing to see if WP ate my post.)

reymohammed
reymohammed
5 years ago

If he’s drunk, he’s not a very observant Muslim, is he?…

ikanreed
ikanreed
5 years ago

“I’ve spent most of my life cultivating an image as a loathesome prick, going so far as to purposefully incorporate being a loathesome prick into my ideology(buy my book!) but people must hate me because of the religion I don’t actually follow.”

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

Okay, it won’t let me post all of Doosh’s quote, so I’ll just post the relevant bit.

… and cat tattoos.

Poe’s Law is crying in the corner.

magnesium
magnesium
5 years ago

Wait, if he’s charging $50 a head for his talks, and he’s only bringing in about ~35 guests for the talks, then how is he able to afford to rent the venues and pay for travel and lodging? I suppose he could be couch surfing, but even so this can’t be a profitable venture for him.

I don’t think even the Roosh Daisy here is stupid enough to think feminists would fall for his fake Muslim thing, but he does know that his marks, er I mean fans are stupid enough to go around screaming at women on the internet that he’s a proud, traditional muslim who’s being discriminated against.

reymohammed
reymohammed
5 years ago

I was twice married to Muslim men. The first was completely inoffensive– he simply had to go back home. The second thought he was bigger than Dallas, but public indecency was no part of his problem. Of all their associates, only Saudis had the reputation of acting like Roosh, and they were avoided by serious people.

Moggie
Moggie
5 years ago

This is what passes for comedy in Roosh land. It’s lame, but his followers will lap it up.

Christine Hawes
5 years ago

Yeah Canada is not a very friendly-to-Muslims country. If he does this, it will just make things worse for Canadian Muslims

ethfiel
5 years ago

As far as I know (aside from IS maybe) Muslims don`t propagate rape.In texts by muslimas (feminists) about patriarchal society Islam appears as the better patriarchy compared to the western world, because in addition to (the worldwide not uncommon patriarchal patterns) respect for women is taught (unlike the often degrading attitude towards women in western society regardless of dress or behaviour). So Roosh`s “operation fornication” might come across as slightly Islamophobic..

Film Runner
5 years ago

Does this guy have a job? How does he fund all of this?

Fnoicby
Fnoicby
5 years ago

I *really* cannot picture any practicing muslims that would be ok with Rooshy’s pathetic little lifestyle. He’s trying to gain sympathy by hitching his disgusting attitudes towards women with a religion. It says a heckuva lot more about what Rooshy thinks of Islam than it says about Islam. Just wait until the Muslim community gets a whiff of this stinking pile.

freemage
5 years ago

ethfiel | August 13, 2015 at 12:26 pm
As far as I know (aside from IS maybe) Muslims don`t propagate rape.In texts by muslimas (feminists) about patriarchal society Islam appears as the better patriarchy compared to the western world, because in addition to (the worldwide not uncommon patriarchal patterns) respect for women is taught (unlike the often degrading attitude towards women in western society regardless of dress or behaviour). So Roosh`s “operation fornication” might come across as slightly Islamophobic..

This is… more than a little rose-tinted view of the Islamic world. Most Islamic nations have rather atrocious attitudes towards women, and their take on rape… Well, as an easy example, Saudi Arabia requires there to be two witnesses to a rape to even say it was a rape. A woman who is raped while in the company of only one or two men is considered an adultress, and subject to imprisonment and flogging. It’s not uncommon for a woman to be raped and be arrested while her assailant goes free.

I’m not saying that Western patriarchy is ‘better’. Rather, it’s comparing two different patriarchal cultures, and part of patriarchy is that you blame victims of rape for their assaults. Indian and Japanese patriarchy are different from American and European patriarchy, as well, but they also suffer the same conceit.

freemage
5 years ago

None of the above, by the way, should be taken as saying that Roosh is not indulging in blatant Islamophobia and racism when he pulls this shit.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

I love how Roosh not only can’t take an actual picture of himself in “traditional Muslim garb” (because as far as I know, it’s not against Muslim religious practices to do so), and has to resort to a “recreation”, but he thinks that claiming that he’s Muslim makes him immune to all criticism, or else we’re “Islamophobic”.

People are capable of belonging to oppressed groups and still being raging jackasses, so it doesn’t matter if Roosh is “Muslim” or not. Still being a rape-supporting asshole, still gonna get called out for it.

sn0rkmaiden
5 years ago

Sad thing is, when I checked the comments under a Yahoo ‘news’ article on Roosh’s recent beer shampoo, there were loads of islamophobic comments, but only an islamophobe, and a deeply ignorant one at that, would buy that Roosh is a muslim.

The comments about Roosh coming from the mainstream audience is pretty vile, from the kind of people who would get banned here in five seconds flat. When he tries to go mainstream he gets the same treatment women get on the RoK forum. It’s poetic justice, kind of. Pretty unpleasant all round though 🙁

bvh
bvh
5 years ago

@Scott Hamilton

I don’t know about St Petersburg Times, but a similar incident by Co$ targeted the Clearwater Sun:

http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/clearwatersun/sun-nazi-1279.htm

This was a response to an editorial urging local businesses to avoid dealings with Co$.
Thanks for the reminder. For some reason this is missing from my Chanology files.

Johanna Roberts
5 years ago

So tempted to call some of my girlfriends in Tornto, but I would almost feel sorry for the verbal ass whopping he’d get. Almost. That and I don’t want to subject them to someone like that. He seems to be lacking in both the brains and the logic department, but that’s nothing new. xD

Dodom
Dodom
5 years ago

About the sort of sexism one may encounter from Muslims by opposition to other groups, I’d say you’re a lot more likely to meet with benevolent sexism (guys who want to carry your bags even though you’re fine, or insist on giving up their seat even after you told them you’re just on the bus for two stops) which can be annoying but a far cry from Roosh’s slimy brand of misogyny. Traditional Muslims think there are set roles for men and women, but those roles involve responsabilities for themselves as well, not MRA-like wailing entitlement.

Additionally, there’s more to their religion than just gender roles, so it’s possible for one to adhere to the faith without making traditionalism their agenda, there are plenty other and better ways to approach faith. While MRAs ARE defined by their hostile, dysfunctional relation to women, and have about nothing else to show.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

@Dodom:

http://media.giphy.com/media/mDtdH6h0HuYkU/giphy.gif

Well said. That was wonderful.

Binjabreel
5 years ago

You know what Islam *does* have? Extremely rigorous requirements for bathing and personal grooming. So Doosh isn’t even being a good practicing Muslim in that sense. Spain used to persecute the Moors by making bathing illegal.

Also, anyone else get the feeling that his dad would be furious about this?

alaisvex
alaisvex
5 years ago

The attacks against me is [sic] obviously Islamophobia. My traditional beliefs on women and family come from my father, who is Muslim (Shia branch). White Canadian feminists forget to check their privilege before attacking our masculine views which stem for [sic] the mighty Koran.

Oh, yes, this is why no one ever tries to advance educational opportunities for women in Middle Eastern countries where those are lacking, and this is why we all supported the Taliban for shooting Malala Yousafzai. Oh wait…

Rosemary
Rosemary
5 years ago

When Roosh inevitably gets tired of this shtick, will that make him an apostate? I don’t like the dude, but he should tread carefully.

katz
katz
5 years ago

I’m no expert on Islam, but I would have thought the “pump and dump” strategy would violate some rule or other.

Maxime Geronzi
Maxime Geronzi
5 years ago

Why not just take his comments at face value. He’s clearly iranian and thus culturally muslim. He was probably mentally messed up by his dad if he’s devoted his life to being a full time MRA pro-rape creep. Most guys with good parental role models don’t just “fall into” being a professional sexist troll.

Also his viewpoint is unfortunately NOT that much different from the kind of stuff you hear young muslim males in western urban environments. Hang out with street kids in Paris and you basically have to deal with hearing them talk about how all women are whores every 10 minutes.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

Well, today just has a shit pile of shit news, doesn’t it?

Just…ugh.

http://33.media.tumblr.com/0448f00437a1439739cf6be23391f384/tumblr_inline_mz5wzdEzTB1qefa82.gif

middleEasterner
middleEasterner
5 years ago

OK, this is becoming dangerous. Does this fool understand the Islamic concept of blasphemy? He’s posting pictures of himself in a mockery of “islamic dress” and suddenly claiming false allegiance to a religion he has never practiced. He is invoking the name of the prophet and doing so in an insincere tone intended purely for personal gain. And all that without any concept of what it means to be a Shia, of which “40% of Sunnis do not consider … to be proper Muslims” (the Economist: http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2013/05/economist-explains-19 ).

Is he really, with amazing ignorance and stupidity, walking straight out there with a big target painted on his chest for all sorts of Islamic hate? This could very, very quickly end up very, very badly for him – this is no longer a joke.

Zeb Berryman
Zeb Berryman
5 years ago

Rosemary: Eh I’m pretty sure that most Muslims would be angry to begin with since he’s clearly not following any of the core tenets of the Koran.

RosaDeLava
RosaDeLava
5 years ago

“The best way to gain the trust of a woman is to fuck her. ”

I always thought it was the other way around! Silly me!

And, oh, man, I’d think Roosh would have an actual picture of himself in traditional clothes if he was so serious in his beliefs, but that’s just me.

On the other hand, after that bit about cat tattoos I can finally see why some people would think the things Roosh writes are satire. He is just too ridiculous.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Speaking of Malala Yousafzai, wasn’t it at RoK that she was being criticized for not being boner pleasing enough? Or was that some other site? It’s hard to keep track of which vile and shitty misogynist opinion came from which segment of the manosphere.

lightcastle
lightcastle
5 years ago

Is this really a plan, or is Roosh just posting bullshit on his forum out of some misguided attempt to confuse people? Anyway, if it is true, it comes back to what others have said about how “status quo warriors” try and and parrot back social justice language as some sort of ”gotcha!!” to try and make feminists look like hypocrites.

It is quite obviously trolling. He thinks the “SJW”s are stupid and knee jerk so this is a win-win. Some will think he is Muslim and refuse to attack a minority. Others will think he is and will picket mosques or otherwise make islamophobic comments. (Note he makes sure to say he is trying to schedule his talk in mosques and asks them not to picket those mosques.)

It’s just more random offensive bullshit.

He was seen at UdeM this morning, so it seems he isn’t in Toronto yet (although he could be arriving tonight.)

He’s claimed he has booked 6 venues already for Toronto, so no one can stop him. (Which, um… yes, we know. The mayor has made it clear while he would like venues to deny Roosh, free speech is the law of the land.) We can’t tell (due to his shitty writing) whether he has booked 6 in advance as possible decoys or has had to book 6 consecutively because they keep getting shut down.

He is proudly saying he lost money on this, and the extra venues are costing him a fortune. He seems to feel he will make it up with donations from his followers happy he is “sticking it to the feminists” and perhaps a surge of new followers and subscribers due to the publicity.

(Incidentally, there is a theory going around that he didn’t post the mascot police report because he was trying to fake a police report, but that the police gave him a fake report to shut him up and make him leave.)

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

So, as a devout Muslim, Roosh will be staying out of bars…?

ryohji
ryohji
5 years ago

Er… Aren’t we talking about the very man who tried fruitlessly to appeal to the white supremacist crowd. You know, the guys who aren’t very kind on anything that isn’t a white straight cis christian racist man?
DId he forgot we have all kinds of proofs on that? I keep seeing him as those people living in their own world and thinking their are more intelligent than the masses despite having no grasp at all of reality.

sn0rkmaiden
5 years ago

@WWTH,

it was Billy Chubbs who wrote about Malala on RoK, he was criticizing her for leaving her home country just because people were going to kill her if she stayed. Of course he wrote this from behind his pseudonym living in a country where no one is going to kill him. Though if his true identity is ever learned someone might throw beer at him.

Kakanian
Kakanian
5 years ago

I remember that strategy being used by the notyourshield hashtag.

Had To Be Said
Had To Be Said
5 years ago

“I’m not saying that Western patriarchy is ‘better’.”

It is, though. A system in which a woman has full status as a citizen and can seek meaningful justice is categorically better than a system in which this is not the case. That first system is unlikely to be perfect, but it is categorically better.

It is this skittishness to criticize Islamic fundamentalism (which is synonymous with “law” in some countries) that Roosh is seeking to exploit.

(It won’t work, though, because he’s improvising this out of thin air, and he’s not actually Muslim, and no practicing Muslim could live his lifestyle, and he’s Roosh.)

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago
AltoFronto
AltoFronto
5 years ago

Is there such thing as “Traditional Muslim garb”, or does it vary largely by region, sect, etc? I know Muslim women wear the burqua, niquab, hijab or chador depending on their cultural background, particular beliefs, practicality, etc…

Either way, I can’t believe he expects anyone to take his word for it, especially on seeing that fucking lazy photoshop. He’s sure as shit not aiming for credibility here, so what point is he trying to goad us into making?

He can’t be this much of a fucking idiot in all sincerity, can he??

katz
katz
5 years ago

Running list of things HTBS has defended:

-JudgyBitch
-Reddit
-Roosh
-Western patriarchy
-Himself

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Is there such thing as “Traditional Muslim garb”,

From an (admittedly unscientific) study of my Turkish mates it appears to be leggings, black puffa jackets and dangly earrings.

Mewens
Mewens
5 years ago

I was thinking something similar, AltoFronto.

He certainly seems to deal so exclusively in stereotypes that I wonder how much of what he sees is real. Like, he made a point of mentioning that the “attractive” woman who threw beer on him was “23”; I couldn’t tell you one way or the other from the video how old she was, but it did make me wonder if Roosh assumes every woman he’s attracted to is in her early 20s.

His behavior makes a lot more sense to me if he’s awash in his own miniature echo chamber, where he frames reality to match his preconceived notions, then uses that framing as evidence to support his existing ideology.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

He can’t be this much of a fucking idiot in all sincerity, can he??

I’m gonna go with Yes, since he sincerely believes that getting men who can’t get laid (hence why they’re his minions) to try and sleep with the enemy using tactics that will fail miserably will cause the enemy to release soopa seekrit information about the Feminist Plot to Ruin His Fun.

Also, in this context the word is “espionage” not “spycraft”, Roosh you fucking idiot, unless you’re going to get sexbots to do the job.

pkayden
5 years ago

Lindy West is gorgeous. Don’t know why Roosh always brings her up as an example of ugliness. Just shows how juvenile he is.

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