In the Ask The Red Pill subreddit, one perplexed alpha male thinks he may have irrevocably broken his sex thing’s vagina hole by accidentally talking about relationship stuff with her.
While most of the respondents suggested that maybe he should just chill out a little, because jesus fucking christ, one seemed to think that women could consciously cause their vaginas to dry up out of spite.
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Then again if I had a vagina I’m pretty sure it would be sewing itself shut right now.
H/T — Thanks, r/thebluepill!
@Alice Sanguinaria
I’m pretty sure there are some men who aren’t ignorant about how a vagina works. I at least expect the men in relationships with women on this site to understand vaginas.
Right, hmm?
Sometimes I feel like PUAs take regular relationships and then view them through a kaleidoscope lens. I mean sure, it’s altogether possible that she was less in the mood for sex after basically being told that her boyfriend isn’t serious about their relationship. But, um, it doesn’t mean that you have to “frame” shit. Maybe if you ARE serious about the relationship (such that her being distressed distresses you) you should revisit the conversation and actually commit.
Oh, right, but that would make him a beta cuck. Or whatever.
Also transmen. About vaginas. Like, they at the very least would know.
David,
Was wondering about that. I can see how horrible in an interesting way would be trickier. I do appreciate you doing that work so that we don’t have to.
Have visited the MRA sites, find myself unable to deal with the anger and bizarre logic.
I think this place is an important counterbalance to those sites.
Mine just rated this dude -2/10, Would Not Bang, Would Head For The Hills Screaming Like A Banshee.
And that’s not even from seeing his face. Just that post. Yowie.
Well, here’s one Canadian who does that, too. Especially since the kitty’s name is Tiddles.
What a national security disaster. He leaked classified feelings. Remember, kid: loose lips sink relationships. Every time you say “I love you”, Hitler smiles.
Seriously, though, it’s disheartening that he tried briefly to talk to his SO like an adult, and when he didn’t get the answer he wanted, he lasped right back into redpill mode, sulking because his sexthing malfunctioned.
I don’t think he has anything to worry about. Everybody knows that dry vaginas are caused by fracking.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s not the OP’s emotional openness that’s turning her into a saltine in the Atacama Desert.
Ironically, when I clicked on this post, the Charli XCX song “Body of My Own” came up on my playlist…just sayin’…
Redpill-NoFapper: “Women can go wet or dry at will.”
Normal MRA Talking Point: “Men can’t control their erections.”
…Tell me how men are the rational, controlled ones again?
The whole failure at anatomy and not caring about a woman beyond her vagina aside. I don’t think his explanation of the relationship conversation at the top of his post is complete or accurate. I would expect that his conversation at this part is missing key details [first time trying blockquote…hope this works]:
If the quote “I really want to be with you and I’m not interested in seeing anyone else” was the entirety of that conversation, I would also assume this was moving towards an exclusive relationship.
Assuming her quotes are true, her reaction of “I’m just not ready for that yet” is missing some crucial conversation there. I have the feeling that what he asked for was more on the demanding side (i.e. “So this needs to be exclusive or I am cutting this off”) or some other redpill bullpoop where suddenly she realized it would not be a good idea to waste more time on this guy.
Nothing screams ‘secure in my masculinity’ like asking strangers if your girlfriend’s vagina is out to get you.
@David, you ignore my email about Judgybitch’s latest hypocrisy in favor of telling us about some obscure dudebro fretting about his girlfriend’s vagina? I guess it’s important to focus on the really important issues?
Redpillian Biotruf No. 1:
Women are the main cause of dry vaginas. If it weren’t for women, all vaginas would be wet and welcoming 24/7. Women ruin everything, and especially vaginas. AWALT.
An alpha knows how to keep a vagina away from its woman: see frame (available at Hobby Lobby or home improvement stores).
Before reading past the title I thought, “Considering what redpillers think of relationships, yeah, talking about them would indeed cause a vagina to reabsorb all moisture. It would also run far away, taking the rest of the body with it.”
Also what the heck is “frame”? Kinda new to this redpill world so not even close to understanding of the lingo.
Although I am not sure I want to know. Mostly because right now the image of “losing frame” in my head conjures up the image of the OP getting really upset because he lost his prized picture frame of him and his betta fish during this conversation. Now he is asking for advice on the best tactics to get it back from whomever is holding it hostage.
Hey, Alan Robertshaw, I’m American, and I remember Mrs. Slocum, too.
As far as I can tell, they use the “visual arts” definition: “Framing” is used to draw the viewer’s attention to some aspect of the scene, and mark other aspects as secondary or unimportant.
So “losing frame” means that the woman involved has started coming up with her own interpretation of events, instead of using the interpretation he wants to manipulate her into.
(Treating other people as passive observers rather than active participants is one of the central themes of the Greater Manosphere. The word “frame” seems to be specific to PUAs. Most of the other branches use the word “narrative” instead; e.g. “The feminist narrative is crumbling, thanks to the dedicated work of #gamergators.”)
All that said, I just don’t understand modern relationships. If I’ve been in a sleep-over relationship with somebody for six months and it’s still going OK, it ought to be taken as a given that I can leave a few toiletries in the other person’s apartment. I mean, how long am I supposed to carry them back and forth in a plastic bag? When the shampoo bottle cap cracks and I get shampoo all over my toothbrush, are you volunteering to go out in the pouring rain just to buy a replacement? Sheesh!
@Chaos-Engineer thanks! Also – HOLY S$%T – that is worse than I thought it was. I had thought it was some sort of equivalent to “face”. That is … just horrible. How could you do that to another human being? Especially one you want to be in a long term relationship with?
I really hope she gets out of that relationship because anyone that manipulative deserves to be dumped immediately.
Dang no edit function….
By “you” in “How could you do that…” I meant the OP, not you with the toiletries. 🙂
“Frame” = a man’s illusion of having complete control over the situation, in RedPillockese. He lost his because the woman dared to assert some controls of her own: leaving her own shampoo at his place for convenience, etc.
And then he lost it even more when he speculated that she was consciously willing her ‘nads to dry up on him, out of sheer spite at (presumably) not hearing the responses she wanted out of him, re: commitment. Even though, by the sounds of it, she was not really ready to go full-exclusive with him anyway.
But then she had to use lube during sex, oh noes! Because vaginal dryness never just happens on its own, or for completely out-of-a-woman’s-control reasons like where she’s at in her menstrual cycle, for instance. Or because she’s on the Pill, and thickening of vaginal and cervical mucus is a common, and expected, side effect of the medication. Or because even lubed condoms aren’t always lubed enough.
Basically, dude just lost his shit over a whole lotta nothing. And that, in turn, should make her side-eye him hard and for good reason. He’s not ready for his close-up, Mr. DeMille.
@ reymohammed
Mrs Slocombe (as I’ve since found out is the correct spelling) and her feline misadventures must be one of our finest exports. 🙂
@Alan:
7/10 Would not throw in harbor.
Frame is used in politics, too – like ‘frame an argument’, or ‘shifting the frame’ it is basically about focusing people’s perception to a different area.
In this case his ‘frame’ is that he’s a cool, Alpha dude who doesn’t give a toss about her and keeps her wanting. By revealing that he too has been thinking LTR, he feels the frame has been shifted – he’s lost power, she’s gained. I guess the idea is that women only drop their panties for alphas – hence the dryness. But obvs this is ridiculous.
@ Falconer
*Chortle* [and note I resisted my usual rantings about how that tea was subsidised anyway]
@ Everyone else re: Frame
In the early days of policing someone came up with the idea of the ‘identikit’.
That was essentially a series of drawings of different facial parts (eyes, noses, mouths etc.). Witnesses chose the facial parts that looked most like the suspect and they were put together to form a composite. The different cards were held together in a special frame.
That led to the police saying (still used today) that “[Suspect name] is in the frame” for a particular offence.
The phrase is now used for suspects where there is any sort of evidence; not just photofit (the successor to identikit).
Where someone is the innocent victim of false evidence planted against them we still say “He’s been framed”.
[Nerd mode: Off]
“Frame” and “reframing” were pretty much the dominant concepts in the “interpersonal communication” class that I took in college. (It was a gen-ed graduation requirement)
Actually is a useful way of approaching disagreements in social situations/relationships
As far as I can tell, they use the “visual arts” definition: “Framing” is used to draw the viewer’s attention to some aspect of the scene, and mark other aspects as secondary or unimportant.
If it’s based on visual art, it’s very indirectly. I’ve read a decent amount of PUA writing. It’s derived from a mix of “framing the discussion” and “frame of mind.” You need to have the mindset of an “alpha” — that’s internal frame. You also speak in a way that sneaks in assumptions. Take as given that someone is interested in you for instance, and ask why rather than if they’re interested. It’s a lot like the “forced teaming” sales technique.