#Cuckservative: The dumbest neo-Nazi hashtag since #CulturalMarxism hits the big time

How hard is it to understand that the current United States is made up of groups from all over? That it was NOT majority white people for most of history? WTF?

And I am so tired of the bully-style name calling that these goons use.

It’s really hard for me to understand these far-right racists because their worst doomsday scenarios are all either things I don’t really care about or things that I think would be good.

Like, whites potentially being a minority in the US in the future? Eh, whatever.

You know, I just learned what an Ouroboros is today. It should be the symbol of the Republican party–a snake eating its own tail. They bred and birthed these idiots, so it’s their responsibility to swallow them. Watching the Republican party collapse onto itself is a treat.

Also, conservatives/Neo-nazis have this weird obsession with sex that actual kinky people don’t have. Huh. It’s almost like raising children and young adults to believe that sex is the worst possible thing you can do before marriage in turn makes them obsessed with it. You wanna tell them to grow up and move on, but I guess they stopped maturing around the time they were fourteen. (I only say fourteen because that was about the age that I believed in things absolutely and loudly without question, though thank God it wasn’t “hating black people”)

“Also, conservatives/Neo-nazis have this weird obsession with sex that actual kinky people don’t have.”

There are the people who tvir qrprag creiregf n onq anzr. They so make the bekabot want to wash out her brain.

Hey, “cultural marxism” doesn’t just mean “jews”, it means “jewish academics.” It’s important to keep track of which kind of jews are being hated on. Your guy who hates jewish businessmen is a very different creature from your guy who hates jewish scholars.

If it helps for people who don’t know: a short primer on Cultural Marxism

Cultural Marxism in an academic sense refers to a concept in Marxist thought that developed to explain why it was the preindustrial societies like Russia and China had experienced the workers revolution and the industrial nations like America, France or Britain had not. Some (mainly German) thinkers around the 1920’s to 40s argued that “Bourgeois culture” had gotten in the way of inspiring workers to unite. They argued institutions like religion, nuclear families, nationalism and restrictive social mores (bourgeois mores) had to be undermined or removed before a revolution could take place, this is what is meant by “the threat of cultural Marxism”.

It was never a serious force outside of academia (barring some Hamfisted attempts by the Soviets) but the mere notion, the suggestion, has been a perfect boogeyman that can be “behind” everything a conservative hates. The link to Jewish people comes from the fact that some of the academics were Jews who ended up fleeing to the USA during the Nazi era where they continued to (ineffectually) push the idea. Nut jobs who speak of cultural Marxism believe that a shadowy conspiracy exists pushing this idea behind the scenes of everything.

Gay rights? Cultural Marxist plot to destroy traditional mores or nuclear families! Anti-racism? Attempt by cultural Marxists to destroy white society! So on and so forth. Needless to say it’s a lot of crap that fits into any bigotry.

The term has mostly devolved into meaning “things racist/sexist/bigoted ultraconservatives don’t like” among the less aware.

It rapidly fell out of favour in Marxist thought because of the immorality of undermining cohesive society to bring about change and the fact that it is patronising to workers to say that their favoured institutions must be broken for their own good.

Tl;dr “cultural Marxists” are people who are pushing to destroy conservative institutions for the sole purpose of preparing society for a workers revolution (rather than people who are genuinely anti racist, pro feminist etc). It’s total bollocks.

Also, conservatives/Neo-nazis have this weird obsession with sex that actual kinky people don’t have. Huh. It’s almost like raising children and young adults to believe that sex is the worst possible thing you can do before marriage in turn makes them obsessed with it.

I think this might tie in with the emerging consensus about the basic attributes that researchers are finding when lining up people’s conservative or liberal leanings with their negative/ positive, .pleasant v. unpleasant focus and all the rest of it.

Most relevant here would be the conservative emphasis on disgust, avoidance, purity, cleanliness.

This is a neat overview of the various study outcomes with handy links to actual research papers.
http://2012election.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004818

Okay, Orion, since you and I are both in this thread, let’s settle this. One of us has to change their username. Who’s it going to be?

shinynewgamer:
> But I’m also half white, so am I allowed in America?

I see you’re not familiar with the good old “one drop rule”. They don’t consider you half white.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule

Thank you, Orion, I learned something.

@mildlymagnificent really interesting roundup of lib v con – which puts me roundly in the lib category usually, but as a confirmed Democrat in the US I’ve ended up Tory here in the UK – i.e. the Conservative Party, partly because of its liberal (yes really!) tendencies. I find the Labour party too willing to throw away freedoms and often unwilling to address nuances in unintended consequences of leftist policy. Plus they bicker too much. It’s not always about left and right and leftists can embrace a weird kind of conservatism.

Apologies to Orion, I think you’ve had the name longer so I’ll use this one instead.

By ways of reintroduction, I’m an Aussie with a economics degree and a Law degree under his belt. Hi there!

The one-drop nonsense makes me laugh. I’m white, I look like a white stereotype, all but one of my ancestors were Irish or English… But according to the one-drop rule, I’m Chinese. =P Who needs reality when you have racism?!

“It’s almost like raising children and young adults to believe that sex is the worst possible thing you can do before marriage in turn makes them obsessed with it. ”

See: Rick “more obsessed with other people’s anal sex than a Mardi Gras float full of gay voyeurs” Santorum

“The link to Jewish people comes from the fact that some of the academics were Jews who ended up fleeing to the USA during the Nazi era where they continued to (ineffectually) push the idea.”

Or maybe because 99% of all conspiracy theories end up boiling down to TEH JOOZ if you poke them deep enough.

I can’t even imagine being so afraid of everything that isn’t like me that hating what seems like everyone is even possible.

@Vaiyt, I wouldn’t put it that way. Cultural Marxism isn’t perceived as a Jewish thing because it’s a conspiracy theory; it became a conspiracy theory because a number of Jewish people really were prominently involved.

So… send all the whites back to Europe then?

No, no, they’ve been grandfathered in because of the last 400 years or so, too late for that.

Okay, what about the hispanics who lived in the American southwest since before that was part of the United States?

Send them to Mexico, as they should have been deported when we took their land from the Spanish.

And the black people who have been here nearly as long as whites, most of whom were brought over unwillingly as slaves?

Just… ship them off to Africa, dammit! America is white people land!

Then where do we send the First Nations peoples?

…Shut up!

(Am I racist-ing right?)

It really is sexual with this idiots, isn’t it?

If Theodore Beale is upset about something, then there must be at least something right about the way the world is going.

aside from the late Adolph Hitler

It’s Adolf with an “f”.
/pedant
It’s interesting, in a nauseating way, to see how porous the boundaries between conservative and neo-Nazi politics are; yet a standard right-wing lie is that the Nazis were part of the left. (They called themselves “national socialist” you see. Like North Korea calls itself the “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea”.)

@ rubyyogi

I’m not sure how many UK viewers there are here so I won’t derail his thread too much with a discussion on UK politics, but you’re right about Labour’s too willing accommodation to certain groups and viewpoints.

That to me does seem to be a problem on the left generally, too many people get a ‘pass’ because they otherwise tick certain boxes. There’s a particular tendency to throw women under a bus.

So George Galloway, well he doesn’t think consent is always a prerequisite for sex, and he thinks it’s ok to discriminate against people based on ethnicity, but he’s against the gulf war so he’s a hero.

Roman Polanski might have drugged and raped a girl but he made that film criticising Tony Blair and the neo-cons so let’s not dwell on the past.

Julian Assange thinks consent doesn’t really matter and once a man has started he can’t really be expected to stop, but WikiLeaks.

Organised rape of thousands of girls? Doing anything about it would be Islamophobia.

It’s not just Labour of course, the current head of the Lib-Dems thinks gay people are sinners, but he’s the victim because criticism of him is interfering with his religious rights.

Someone put up a great quote recently about how the problem with progressive politics was the willingness to accept every viewpoint which lead to immobility. I think there’s definitely something in that. It is ironic that the most progressive policies recently came from the Tories. Labour had 15 years to do equal marriage and the Tories introduced it in their first term in office.

Organised rape of thousands of girls? Doing anything about it would be Islamophobia.

???

Who’s saying this?

Also, what is “cultural marxism” anyway? It’s a load of bullshit im sure, but what kind of bullshit? That’s the question.

Short answer: Jews.

Long answer: Jeeeeewwwwws.

I legit laughed out loud.

Well, kind of snorted-grunted, but you get the idea.

I’ll say it again: I honestly didn’t realize that anti-semitism happened in the modern world until I was about 12.
My reaction then: Really? I mean…really?
It’s just about the same today.

The one-drop nonsense makes me laugh. I’m white, I look like a white stereotype, all but one of my ancestors were Irish or English… But according to the one-drop rule, I’m Chinese. =P Who needs reality when you have racism?!

According to 23andMe, my DNA’s like 1% West African, a fluctuating amount Native American (I think they still have some serious work to do on their data sets), and a chunk Balkan (I can’t remember off hand – and I’ve oy included it because I know some of those Nazi fucks would look askance), and I have blue eyes, generally pale skin, blonde-highlighted brown hair – though I can do a pretty good job producing pigment in the summer.
I’ve been told I look slightly “exotic”, but definitely look “white”.

GAZE UPON ME AND DESPAIR, NAZI ASSHOLES!
WE MONGRELS ARE HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT!
MWA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAA!

@ dhag85

Who’s saying this?

This was the Rotherham case. There has now been a prosecution in that case but the lessons don’t seem to have been learned.

It’s probably also worth bearing in mind that in the Rotherham case some of the victims were also indicted as co-conspirators with their abusers!

“I’m not sure how many UK viewers there are here…”

Me for one. And if the 13 years of (New) Labour proved anything, it’s that an unfettered left-wing government can get it as wrong on civil liberties as an unfettered right-wing one. Remember also that Labour would’ve had a much stronger bargaining position following the election of 2010 if it hadn’t alienated so many of the liberals who’d formerly voted for it.

@ dhag95

Not very pleasant reading but gives a flavour of what was going on.

home-office-rotherham-child-abuse-research-stolen-claim-panorama

Try again

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/01/home-office-rotherham-child-abuse-research-stolen-claim-panorama

@ Oliver

Yeah, it’s weird when you consider David Blunkett and Jack Straw were Labour Home Secretaries and Ken Clarke was the Tory one!

Ah yes, Jack Straw: the politician who had the time to introduce a law against “disturbing a pack of eggs” but not to prosecute General Pinochet. And I wish I were joking.

And if the 13 years of (New) Labour proved anything, it’s that an unfettered left-wing government can get it as wrong on civil liberties as an unfettered right-wing one.

If you think New Labour was a left-wing government of any sort, you’ve got your head on backwards.

I don’t know if this is a common neo-Nazi talking point right now or if it was the work of a lone troll, but the other day, on a thread about Subway Jared Fogel someone posted that he is a cuckold with a link to the Daily Stormer and that video about the Nickelodeon show. It was hilarious.

@ Oliver

Pinochet was owed certain favours as a result of assistance he had provided during an endeavour in the South Atlantic; so he was always going to be given a pass.

Sometimes it makes me really happy that all I have to do to frustrate the hell out of these assholes, as a liberal, feminist, tattooed, short-haired, Jewish woman, is get out of bed in the morning.

Vox Day is 1/8 Native American and another 1/4 (or thereabouts) Mexican, so therefore it’s OK for him to be racist. No, really, he says so himself: http://www.donotlink.com/g7gh

Then where do we send the First Nations peoples?

They get to live on the remainder of the land that the white people don’t want, after it’s been made worthless through fracking, dumping, water contamination, and other forms of pollution.

@cheerioincident

For a supposed “master race”, for supposed paragons of physical, mental and cultural evolution, these people sure get frustrated easily!

@mockingbird, I’m another one of those hiding in plain sight ‘mongrels’. I self-identify as ‘white’ because I mostly am and that’s the culture I was raised in and that’s what I look like…

I have a little cousin who is half white (as in white like me) and 1/4 African American (so presumably some white admixture?) and 1/4 Japanese and is blond in the summer time and looks ‘white’. His sister meanwhile has ‘exotic’ looks. It will be really interesting to see how they adopt racial identities or have them foisted upon them as they mature.

Lincoln must be spinning in his grave like a jet turbine.

This primary season is going to be mad ugly

This is very weird; cuckolding, and interracial cuckolding in particular, are significant porn fetishes (I’m sure there are videos called “Caught My Wife With My Black Neighbor #37”). I somehow doubt that the two phenomena are unrelated; has this been remarked on in any of the commentary?

Alan and Oliver – PLEASE do not describe ‘New Labour’ as left wing! They were most emphatically NOT.

ceoln – David has mentioned it quite a few times.

@ Ellesar

The whole left/right thing is probably meaningless now post-Blair.

Are you familiar with the concept of the ‘Overton Window’? It is interesting where ‘the centre’ is currently located.

Always ask: Wasn’t Jesus himself cuckspawn?

“Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant.” Matthew 1:18

Merry Cuckmas!
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Are you familiar with the concept of the ‘Overton Window’? It is interesting where ‘the centre’ is currently located.

I’m in Australia. We have prime examples in our current government and opposition. The “modern” I’m-more-right-wing-than-you-are Liberals (Tory or Republican equivalents) now hold policy positions that would have shocked their forebears of thirty years ago to the core. Labor is virtually indistinguishable from the “small l liberals” of 40 years ago apart from their continued commitment to unions and fair industrial relations policy generally.

@ceoln

It’s as if they don’t want to acknowledge their dirty kinky fetish obsession, there should be an effort in the defcon camp to bring the porn they download and all that stuff into the light of defiantly demanding equal rights journalist scrutiny.

“Here a cuck, there a cuck, yes we’re all obsessed with cucks just look at our hard drive with all those cucks” – if they just admitted they’re kinky and their kink happens to involve cuckolding, as the kink community says “Your kink is not my kink but that’s ok” ….but really, the more they carry on with the “cucking” the less all the reasonable people are going to be inclined to believe their protests.

On that first cartoon-

If “white history” begins and ends with the Confederate flag and slavery, then, well, fuck white history.

I just ran into this “cuckservative” term on a youtube comment section. It looks like someone’s trying to make “fetch” happen. I hope they split up the republican party but good for this election.

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