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Internet Nazis plan to take down SJWs by pretending to be “Mexican trannies” on Tumblr. If they can stop fighting each other first.

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The folks over on the Daily Stormer — winner of the prestigious “World’s Greatest Nazi Poop Site” award (and coffee cup) — are cackling with glee over what they see as “The Coming SJW Civil War.”

It seems that site Führer Andrew Anglin has noticed that the grand coalition of the so-called SJWs is made up of a number of different groups that (surprise surprise) have different interests and different ideas about things. Indeed, Anglin has convinced himself that all the different groups that make up the “SJW movement” actually hate each other with a passion and only stick together because they all hate “the White heterosexual male” even more.

But Anglin is convinced this can’t last, and that the “SJW movement” will soon erupt in a giant civil war as Blacks declare war on Mexicans and Gays (and, presumably, Gay Mexicans); Gays declare war on “Moslems”; “Moslems” and Feminists start duking it out; and then the Feminists, bringing up the rear, declare war on the Blacks (none of whom are apparently Feminists, just as no “Moslems” are feminists and no Gays are “Moslem”).

(Anglin capitalizes the names of all these groups, and uses “Moslem” instead of “Muslim” basically to piss Muslims off.)

Here’s Anglin’s, er, analysis of the deep divisions between Feminists and Blacks.

Blacks have an extremely “misogynistic” culture, similar to Moslems. They view women mainly as rape targets, and are constantly carrying out their agenda of “muh dik” against them.

White women love Black men, generally, in the same way they love small dogs. However, the serious man-hating element of the feminist is soon to find out about Black rape statistics.

[citation needed]

In order to help foment greater divisions between all these different groups, Anglin urges his readers to “troll hard.”

You should all be trolling these groups, and trying to sew discord between them. Easy enough to do, for the higher IQ element amongst us, and extremely personally rewarding in the form of lols.

Uh, dude, you “sow” discord; you don’t “sew” it. Also, the plural of “lol” is “lulz.”

Get into their circles, pretend to be them, cause rustled jimmies. …

For instance, this can be done on Twitter by making a Paki feminist account and then talking about Black rape. Or, you can go the even easier route, and making a tumblr as a Mexican tranny talking about Islam. Or an anti-racist against the gay oppression of Moslems.

If this all sounds vaguely familiar, it’s because they’ve tried it before. And got busted for it pretty quickly.

Last year, 4channers and assorted other assholes posing as feminists of color flooded Twitter with ridiculous tweets demanding to #EndFathersDay and trying to start fights with real feminists. This was all part of a “black propaganda” troll campaign designed to tear apart feminism.

Only the trolls weren’t really very good at it. Their tweets were so over-the-top that they fooled only Men’s Rights activsts and other antifeminist asshats. And it didn’t take much sleuthing to discover which Twitter accounts were fake. “Phoebe Kwon,” a self-described “Lesbian, Korean American, Feminist” from “San Fransico” was in fact a 4channer using a stock photo; the fact that he didn’t know how to spell “San Francisco” might have been a bit of a tipoff.

Well, that and the fact that a writer at Return of Kings gave away “Phoebe’s” secret long before the #EndFathersDay ridiculousness was even conceived, reporting in 2013 on what until then had been the super seekret Operation Lollipop, in which shitty racist white dudes put on virtual blackface and posted fake feminist tweets.

So having totally not gotten away with it before, it looks like they may try it again.

That is, if they can stop arguing amongst themselves.

A quick glance at the comments section of Anglin’s post reveals that it has turned into a virtual hornets nest of racist shitheads angrily buzzing at each other.

One fellow suggests that

I’ve been thinking, it is high past time to team up with all Blacks to bring down our Zionist-overlords.

That is how Ashkenazi-Jews operate. As long as they keep blacks vs white, the Jews get away with genocide against both camps.

And another replies,

Are you crazy? Niggers are dead weight.

You think you can bring them to your side? Good luck reasoning with a high-testosterone monkey-person with the IQ of a 10 year old child.

Meanwhile, yet another commenter pisses off the proudly anti-Semitic Christians in the comment section by declaring that “Christianity is a jewish con game” and a “communist death religion.”

This causes such a commotion that some commenters begin to suspect that they are being played by a troll. One writes:

Trying to sow discord in the comments of an article about sowing discord. You must think yourself very clever & ironic no?

Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!

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WickedWitchOfWhatever
WickedWitchOfWhatever
5 years ago

Their touching faith in the height of their IQs almost makes me feel sorry for them.

Johanna Roberts
5 years ago

Awww, how cute. They think they can fool people. After not getting away with it so many times they’re all ready to get back on that horse and keep trying. I’ll get the popcorn.

sn0rkmaiden
5 years ago

Gosh, so a bunch of people motivated solely by irrational hatred are having a hard time getting along? I am shocked I tell you, shocked. /s

LordCrowstaff
LordCrowstaff
5 years ago

I’m thinking the same thing I always think when I see racist shitbags: If THAT is the crown of evolution, the best of the best, the (white) cream of the crop, then times are dire indeed for the White Master Race.

kularanini
kularanini
5 years ago

Who are these people? What are they like in the real world; are they more articulate, conform to social norms, indistinguishable from any other average citizen or are they easily recognized as complete imbeciles the moment they open their mouths? Are they loud and proud, or do I actually know some of them, and have no idea because they’re too afraid of social retribution if they express their views in public?

I think what interests me most about these people is not what they say, but that they actually exist and have enough cognitive functionality to operate a computer and form such creative narratives, but not enough to recognize that their views are completely ignorant and nonsensical. It’s quite a balance.

opium4themasses
5 years ago

I get the impression these guys think they win an argument when other people get fed up and walk away.

Quiet Wolf
Quiet Wolf
5 years ago

Uh, these folks don’t seem to realize that your IQ isn’t supposed to rise as you get older. A ten-year-old and the adult they will be ought to have the same score. Just saying.

Also, does anyone actually hate “heterosexual white men?”

opium4themasses
5 years ago

I would say there are people prejudiced against white people, male people, and heterosexual people. However, that hatred is insignificant in the face of the privileges those groups have.

Certainly sucks on the individual level though.

Merus
Merus
5 years ago

Honestly your IQ tends to go down a little as you reach maturity.

Then again, IQ is a bullshit measure that mostly measures your performance on IQ tests. Intelligence is multi-faceted and can’t be easily boiled down to a number, and while it does have a weak correlation with cognitive processing, it’s not even a useful number for a child to know, because of how easily it can induce learned helplessness (if a child believes that they can’t do this math problem because they’re dumb) or a crisis of self (if a child believe they’re supposed to be smart but they still can’t do this math problem).

Fun fact: IQ was introduced to America for the purposes of eugenics, in case you were wondering why white supremacists seemed to fixate on IQ so much.

Even funner fact: most social justice types have heard of intersectionality at this point, so trying to drive a wedge between, say, feminists and black activists isn’t really going to work.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

Also, does anyone actually hate “heterosexual white men?”

Not as far as I know, but remember these are the guys who view any perceived slight as serious oppression. I once got called a man-hater because where he used the words “male genital mutilation” in our argument, I used the word “circumcision”. Once. That’s all it took to convince him I was an evil misandrist.

tooimpurenangel
5 years ago

Andrew Anglin? I wonder if it’s the same one I knew. His biffle was a wannabe Nazi.

anemonerosie
5 years ago

Oh so scary! I’m so terrified! Let me clutch my pearls!

Have these people never heard of intersectionality? Or do they just understand it the way that they understand everything else (ie they don’t, and deliberately misunderstand to further their own agendas and purposes)?

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

Blacks have an extremely “misogynistic” culture, similar to Moslems. They view women mainly as rape targets, and are constantly carrying out their agenda of “muh dik” against them.

MRAs are, like, 99.9% white and 99.8% white supremacist, dude.

Luzbelitx
5 years ago

– O noes, our SJW movement is crumbling down!! *jumps out the window*
– Wait, is literal Nazis saying it!
– Ooookay *jumps in*

https://imgflip.com/gif/omgmx

Anglin has convinced himself that all the different groups that make up the “SJW movement” actually hate each other with a passion and only stick together because they all hate “the White heterosexual male” even more.

Well, I’m not surprised he convinced himself, since he’s coming from a group of straight white ales who hate each other and themselves, and only stick together because they all hate anyone else even more…

Michael Lindsay
5 years ago

I. Am. A. Completely. Normal. Person. I. Am. Just. Like. You.

kupo
kupo
5 years ago

– If you are a person who has pushed your body athletically [military, sports, etc.] for years, your body should reflect that!

Dude’s projecting pretty hard, here.

zyvyn
zyvyn
5 years ago

@kularanini

My experience has been that these people are generally able to hide the worst of themselves in the “meat space”, usually because they are aware on some level that society as a whole finds their views repellent. This knowledge will sometimes get warped into a belief that they are the rebel truth tellers that the feminist Illuminati works to oppress.

Sarity
Sarity
5 years ago

I’m reminded of any time a commenter on YouTube or somewhere painfully obvioustrolls as a raging over the top feminazi charicature, anti-feminists are the only ones stupid enough to fall for it because they’re the only ones with this ridiculous image in their heads of feminists. Most annoyingly, this seems to be why they take any chance to blurt absurdities like “but there are real feminists who actually believe these things/think this way!” I have to wonder if a troll would be just as painfully obvious to them if they were charicaturing literally anyone else.

Xanith
Xanith
5 years ago

What amazes me even more is that they think they can talk about this pathetic excuse of a plan IN PUBLIC and still have no one notice or catch on to their plan. What, do they think that everyone’s gonna be so repulsed by their views that no one is gonna read their websites?

ginnyn56
ginnyn56
5 years ago

@Merus If I remember the Crash Course about this matter correctly, the IQ tests were created in France, when Education became mandatory. The idea was you test the kid not in its intelligence but in what they knew and they were measured in “what they should know according to its age”. Like, If I do the test when I was 10, but I score something like what a 6 years old should know, I will be put in the 6 years old class. After that, for some reason I don’t get, people started to use it as a measure of intelligence. Which it wasn’t even it purpose. So, it’s not really a bullshit measure, we’re not using it for what is for.

Miss Andry
5 years ago

Let’s sew discord! Hail Satin!

magnesium
magnesium
5 years ago

Blacks have an extremely “misogynistic” culture, similar to Moslems. They view women mainly as rape targets, and are constantly carrying out their agenda of “muh dik” against them.

White women love Black men, generally, in the same way they love small dogs. However, the serious man-hating element of the feminist is soon to find out about Black rape statistics.

So… apparently not only are there no black feminists, black women don’t exist at all. Weird.

So, have there been any /pol pranks that were actually “successful” besides gamer gate? It seems the only people dumb enough for these types of pranks are misogynists looking to believe anything that confirms their worldview.

ronanwills
5 years ago

The problem with bigots trying to pull off false-flag attacks or impersonations is that they’ve all been eating a steady diet of misinformation and strawmen that bear little resemblance to the real thing. Then they just regurgitate those, making it easy for real members of whatever group they’re parodying to spot the fake.

On the flipside, most bigots are so over the top that it would be nearly impossible to make a fake version so ridiculous that it would stand out.

Sarity
Sarity
5 years ago

Someone already sewed Discord, and very skillfully I might add ^_^

http://img04.deviantart.net/0a53/i/2013/347/d/4/discord_plush_2_0_by_fireflyfarm-d6xsix5.jpg

zyvyn
zyvyn
5 years ago

IQ as it is used today is not a complete measure of someone’s cognitive power. It is a summary score determined by averaging performance on several major areas of cognitive ability (memory, processing speed, pattern recognition, etc.) It is supposed to be a general representation of cognitive ability, but it is by no means comprehensive. It’s similar to how a poll works. There’s no way to ask every single person in the population their opinion on something, but if you get a representative sample of maybe a few thousand, you can get a pretty good general idea of what’s going on.

Luzbelitx
5 years ago

How long would the MRM last if SJW actually organized a false-flag operation against them?

Not that I think anyone would care to do it, but I’m betting it would be infinitely more efficient than this.

artsmyth
artsmyth
5 years ago

I found a copy of their plans on sewing discord.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Wtfcakes
Wtfcakes
5 years ago

@Sarity

I am squeeing on my youngest son’s behalf. I wish Hasbro’s toys were anywhere near the quality of the fan productions.

(OT OT OT returning to our regularly scheduled, non-pony related program)

Falconer
5 years ago

@Merus,

if a child believe they’re supposed to be smart but they still can’t do this math problem

Hell, I had this problem doing high school chemistry and college-level nuclear physics. Maybe if I’d had to work in grade school I wouldn’t have been such an intolerable ass, not to mention passed nuclear physics.

sn0rkmaiden
5 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw,

yep, that’s pretty much what it’s like when anti-feminists attempt to infiltrate. There was a concern troll who kept dropping into a blog I followed, trying to stir up outrage about some low level PUA, making misandrist suggestions about DNA profiling all men at birth, everyone saw through them in a heartbeat.

Falconer
5 years ago

@Sarity, @Wtfcakes, I gotta say, we seem to be living in some kind of era of cartoon renaissance. Between MLP and Adventure Time, Gravity Falls and Steven Universe, there’s plenty of quality to watch, and I’m sure there’ll be more by the time my kids are, like, 10.

ryeash
5 years ago

Who are these people? What are they like in the real world; are they more articulate, conform to social norms, indistinguishable from any other average citizen or are they easily recognized as complete imbeciles the moment they open their mouths? Are they loud and proud, or do I actually know some of them, and have no idea because they’re too afraid of social retribution if they express their views in public?

From what I’ve noticed, because I live in a literal city of garbage, they’re just like the other far-right conservatives with their dog whistles and feeling people out for the same shitty opinions before really ramping up the bigotry. A few will be out and open about it, but they won’t get very far socially. A very few, like a couple good friends of mine, are/were just in bad situations and misguided in the way they think about it. They had abusive female partners, and society’s more misogynistic views are set up perfectly for them to settle right into and perpetuate. It’s incredibly frustrating, because they’re not bad people, and they’re not wrong about the particular women about whom they complain. They just don’t get that being a money-grubbing, abusive asshole is not confined to one gender, because being angry makes you stupid.

Bazia
Bazia
5 years ago

A bit of a side note: For 60 years and probably longer, feminists have pointed out that women only exist as the Other, the Object, in “human” discourse. The main example is calling humans “Man” and so on, but it shows up constantly in news, books, Tv, everywhere. The racists do it here too, saying “Blacks” as though there are no Black women. It obfuscates who is doing what and misrepresents and invisibilizes women constantly.

I am so tired of editors and publishers letting writers (male and female) do this any longer. It would be so easy to add this to the handbooks of writing style that the publishing industry uses. It would get this ceaseless mantra that women aren’t human or actors in society or part of any other social group out of our heads at last.

estraven
estraven
5 years ago

Mr. Futrelle, thanks for the “lols”!

Mike
Mike
5 years ago

Have these people never heard of intersectionality? Or do they just understand it the way that they understand everything else (ie they don’t, and deliberately misunderstand to further their own agendas and purposes)?

yeah, it’s always interesting the way racists (of various stripes) assume that everyone, in their hearts, must be doggedly aligned with their own particular tribe and hateful of all the other particular tribes. Like, they (racists) just can’t believe that a lot of people actually, truly want to work with people of different backgrounds in the interest of a common good.

benfromcanada
5 years ago

I find that, in general, people believe everyone else to be roughly as intelligent as they are. That’s why smart people are so frustrated by fools, and that’s why unintelligent people come up with lies that wouldn’t trick any intelligent person. With less intellectual people, they figure (probably subconsciously) that since they’d fail to see through the lie, everyone else would, too. That’s why they tried something as asinine as “End Father’s Day” and “Free Bleeding” as opposed to more believable “campaigns”. That’s why I’m fairly sure that if they do this, they’d be as subtle as a brick through a window. “Hey guys, I’m a black tr**** who’s also gay. Am I the only one that thinks sand n*****s should all leave Europe and North America because of patriarchy?”

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

That’s why I’m fairly sure that if they do this, they’d be as subtle as a brick through a window. “Hey guys, I’m a black tr**** who’s also gay. Am I the only one that thinks sand n*****s should all leave Europe and North America because of patriarchy?”

Most of the #NotYourShield trolls we’ve had were even more facepalmingly obvious than that (I’ll never stop laughing at the one whose “Selfie” was… Denzel Washington), so, yep. =P

Snuffy
Snuffy
5 years ago

I wonder if the reason MRAs are so quick to call “not all MRAs” or “false flag” is because they assume feminists are also trolling undercover to sew discord.

(Despite many of the examples David sites coming from the leaders of the movement so they obviously can’t be fake feminists.)

Binjabreel
5 years ago

I mean, these same dipshits were crowing about Rachel Dolezai “the narrative can’t hold!” and all excited that she was going to destroy the SJW narrative…

Except everyone I know who is actually involved in social work in any way shape or form took all of two seconds to say “who’s this bitch and why the fuck are we listening to her?”

Usually, when you try to “infiltrate” and pose as a group, it helps to actually know something about that group. But if these shmucks actually knew thing one about feminism or racial politics, their heads would implode from cognitive dissonance.

ShakeB
ShakeB
5 years ago

Meanwhile the open racists are doing just fine “sewing” discord on the right with their new favorite word “cuckservative”.

http://thedailybanter.com/2015/07/cuckservative-is-a-conservative-who-isnt-quite-racist-enough-for-donald-trump-fans/

freemage
5 years ago

Okay, those sewn Discords are fantastic. I particularly like the cute baby Discord.

******

On the ‘intersectionality fail’ of this whole proposal:

It’s almost amusing that not only are they fighting straw feminists, but they are specifically fighting straw feminist ghosts–the SJW divisions they want to capitalize upon were mostly part of first- and second-wave feminism, when everyone who wasn’t white/straight/cis/male had so much on their plate just surviving that the idea of forging genuine alliances hadn’t really set, yet.

They still think that feminists haven’t already figured out that we need to also be anti-racists, pro-LGBT rights, and so on. Yes, there are individuals within each of the various movements that are not fully on-board, but from what I’ve seen, they’re all on the fringes.

Sarity
Sarity
5 years ago

@Snuffy Ah, but there’s an easy remedy to that, and it’s simply to discount said leaders as ‘not real MRAs’ or ‘not represensative of MRAs’. Remember, it’s only a No True Scotsman when feminists do it.

benfromcanada
5 years ago

Here’s one thing I wonder: I’ve encountered Phoebe Kwon and others that are known fakes, and a LOT of them use “womyn” rather than “women” or “woman”. What’s up with that? Do they really think that’s a thing?

sevenofmine
5 years ago

That’s why smart people are so frustrated by fools, and that’s why unintelligent people come up with lies that wouldn’t trick any intelligent person.

I don’t think that’s quite what’s going on here. Part of privilege is that you just don’t have to trouble yourself with anyone’s perspective but your own. Another part is being socialized to expect to always be taken at your word. Crafting a lie to be convincing to an audience of Others is a task these kind of people just aren’t equipped for. I don’t think it really has anything to do with intelligence at all.

Falconer
5 years ago

@benfromcanada: They think the SCUM Manifesto is required feminist reading, that Andrea Dworkin said that all sex is rape, and that feminists killed Erin Pizzey’s dog. Of course they think we all use “womyn.”

Luzbelitx
5 years ago

@freemage

I think we can look at feminism and acknowledge that white feminism is a thing because of racist power structures, and intersectionality is also a thing even if it’s not pulled out flawlessly every time.

MRAs see a bunch of women being assholes to them (because obviously not agreeing and going about your own life is being an asshole to MRAs) and assume “intersectionality” is a cover word to be assholes with impunity and never was meant as anything but a lie to the public.

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