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MGTOWs predict a nightmare future of “land whales” and a 40% Bachelor Tax

In the brave new world of the future, robots won't have faces, people will dress like they did in the 70s, and taxes on single dudes will be very very high. Also spaceships, I forgot spaceships.
In the brave new world of the future, robots won’t have faces, people will dress like they did in the 70s, and taxes on single dudes will be very very high.

The MGTOWs on the GYOW forum are thinking about tomorrow, putting on their futurist hats and pondering what will happen when, as they think is inevitable, more and more men “take the red pill” and walk away from women to a new life of happiness and wonder in which they devote their days to grousing endlessly about the women they’ve walked away from.

There’s a little talk of apocalypse, and a quick mention of sexbots, but these fellas seem most worried about, well, taxes. Because naturally, big daddy government — under the control of evil feminists and manginas — will try to take a kind of revenge against Men Going Their Own Way by instituting a dreadful Bachelor Tax. 

Octavian explains just how it’s all going to go down. First, “marriage will go the way of the mechanical typewriter.” Next, the taxman cometh.

[F]airly soon the governments of the world will get hip to the fact that the dudes who dont have women in their lives have a LOT of disposable income . If 80% of the dudes in society are unattached beta males with no kids and no wife, fairly soon someone’s gonna realize taxing those guys will pay for a lot of Mr Thundercock’s progeny. …

We’ll be served with a summons to present proof of gay marriage ,alimony expenses paid ,a court order for child support or a documented relationship with a female….or pay a 40% income tax until we do.The reason?

“All men should share the burden to pay for child support, because patriarchy.Whats more important-a kid or your classic 1965 Mustang restoration?”

At first to sell the “Bachelor Tax” theyll apply it to females as a gesture of “equal burden”, but that’ll be a non-binding price ceiling. They’ll find a beta to happily vouch for being in a relationship so she can dodge the taxman … 

Meanwhile , we single dudes will be looking over our shoulders every time we use an ATM.Next floor in the elevator of decline after that is polyamory … 

Want to dodge the 40% bachelor tax, Mister Bluepill? Go find a bored fat girl who’s willing to vouch for you to the IRS that you’re a taken man.Of course nothing is free in this world……and you’ll have to prove to Miss Fatso you have the commitment required to join her roster.

As for the alpha’s, itll be a lonely club-moving between harems means pissing off a few women. Itll be the lowest social category of public society; staying out of jail & poverty will mean fake ID’s and quick feet.Plate spinning for males will require CIA tradecraft to avoid imprisonment.

Unlike a lot of Manosphere prognosticators, Octavian isn’t secretly (or not-so-secretly) hoping for a grand collapse of civilization.

I hope we dont suffer a Big Collapse ; the only thing worse then living in a matriarchy is wandering a post-industrial disaster filled with desperate bluepill males ,ruthless whores ,and easy accessed personal weapons with no law or order.You think guys are thirsty simps NOW….just wait until a society of feminized she-dudes have to figure out how to live without Amazon Prime and extended warranties. 

Insidious_Sid, meanwhile, thinks that the Bachelor Tax will just be the beginning.

There will be a tax war. Men saying “fuck it” will continue to be taxed more and more to pay for more and more bastard alpha babies. Governments will continue to create more insidious ways of getting men to pay for children that are not theirs. 

And, oh yeah, after all this? The apocalypse.

Economies will crumble – women are actually waiting for this. They believe in the lies of the feminist utopia, where the rich white men at the top of the towers fall to their deaths, the towers topple and gold spills into the streets for everyone to plunder. They have no real knowledge of what the real repercussions of this will be – they think it will be handsome alphas fucking all the women while betas toil in the mines and obediently pay their taxes.

That’s not what is going to happen. Before it’s all over they will say “Oh no, what have we done?!”

These cries will fall on deaf ears.

 

Dun-dun DUHHNN!!
Dun-dun DUHHNN!!

Oh, and there will be sexbot taxes as well. According to Abdenour,

Technologically, there will be sex robots. One question is, what legislation feminist, manginas and white knights will pass in the West to make land whales more competitive with robots. Maybe some sex robot 1,000% tax to provide income for single land whales and their thug spawn. 

MGTOWs are pretty much the world’s worst science fiction authors.

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dslucia1
dslucia1
5 years ago

@kirbywarp:
Still more self-awareness than any MRAPUATOWGooberGripe has ever shown.

booburry
5 years ago

What the hell do you even say to dudes like this? I always hope they are just being dramatic as all hell for their audience of sorry sacks.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
5 years ago

@maistrechat:

Loved that game. Played through the whole thing over something like three or four sessions of 6 hours each. Only had to look up about 2/3rds of the stars too! It was great.

The metaphor was just the teensiest, tiniest, itty-bittiest bit heavy handed, but the atmosphere was amazing.

Now if only they could do something about the motion sickness…

hippielady
hippielady
5 years ago

I thought these guys were “going their own way.” Why aren’t they gone yet?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
5 years ago

@booburry:

Best I can come up with is “Cool story, bro.”

latsot (@latsot)
5 years ago

@Lordcrowstaff

Mr. Thundercock WILL be my post-apocalyptic Raider name, that is for sure.

Mine shall be Bastard Alpha Baby.

Robert
Robert
5 years ago

The web comic “Sinfest” has had a number of story arcs about the sexbot issue. Good stuff.

I’m not sure which is a more important goal for these toe rags – getting their dicks wet without having to interact with an actual woman, or enraging women by doing so. That most women, most of the time, would be delighted by them actually GTOW does not occur to them.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Whether a relationship with a robot is sexual or romantic is an important plot point in Asimov’s “Robots Of Dawn”.

mockingbird
mockingbird
5 years ago

Falconer – They are valiantly guarding your home from a buggy infestation!

http://i.imgur.com/2GsShRc.jpg

Go forth! Relish your role in raising up the next generation of amphibious warriors!

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Has anyone seen the AMC show Humans? It’s about robots, called Synths that start to develop consciousness and have feelings. One of the Synths, Niska is a sexbot who goes rogue. This is a pretty nifty scene and I thought about MGTOWs the entire time. Even though Niska is not technically a human (though if she looks human and has human levels of consciousness, maybe she is?) but it’s definitely a representation of how misogynistic men view women. After all, it’s a show about robots called Humans!
https://youtu.be/LFTivFFvn8I

I recommend this show to any sci fi fan who is okay with sci-fi that’s based more in character and is more thoughtful. As opposed to lasers and fighting spaceship kinds of more action oriented sci-fi. I especially love that the end of the scene gets a dig in at women who enable misogyny to gain proxy privilege.

Over-easy
Over-easy
5 years ago

Why do these dudes assme women won’t welcome sex bots too?

I mean there already is a male real doll which comes with detachable peni that comes in a variety of sizes for that perfect fit and if I remember correctly, the company is working on making the peni vibrate and spin for added pleasure. The major problem with the male real doll is the weight of it whch is too heavy for most women to lift but I remember the company claiming to look into different materials or whatever to make it lighter.

Soooo…if presented with a choice between a redpillalphadudebromramgtow and a real doll/sex bot with vibrating, interchangeable peni why would any woman choose them again?

alaisvex
alaisvex
5 years ago

Ah, yes, he’ll become just another dude releasing hour-long rants on YouTube for free. That’ll teach us SJWs.

mauritia
mauritia
5 years ago

What confuses me about MRAs is that they consider themselves so incredibly inherently superior to women, yet somehow oppressed by them at the same time. If women are soooo dumb like they think we are, how did we manage to enslave all these poor men?

andiexist
andiexist
5 years ago
Reply to  mauritia

@maurita

By giving them boners. How else? >_>

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
5 years ago

Now I kinda want to see a film about a bunch of these guys and how they’d panic if the apocalypse actually did happen.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

@Rabid Rabbit

These assholes would be, like, dead within a week, to be generous.

Peter Hockley
Peter Hockley
5 years ago

I’ve obviously missed something, I’ve never married. I already pay more income tax when in work than families with children. Never really bothered me. Whats this red pill, blue pill trope? Very strange people.

AJ Milne
AJ Milne
5 years ago

Increasingly, I find myself thinking I don’t really need to compose much of a response to really _anyone_ across the entire MRA/MGTOW/Red Pill/Whatever axis, whateverthehell they’re on about these past few hours…

I’m just as well off posting a short except of Graham Chapman as the Colonel saying ‘Stop that. It’s silly’.

Just sums it all up more than adequately, I find.

AnAndrejaPejicBlog (@A_Pejic_Blog)

I’m not sure how a male Real Doll is an improvement on a suction cup-mounted dildo, unless one has a necrophililia or uncanny valley fetish.

ryeash
5 years ago

fairly soon someone’s gonna realize taxing those guys will pay for a lot of Mr Thundercock’s progeny. …

HI I HAVE ALL THE INSECURITIES. ALL OF THEM.

msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

I think that in order to reach the point of blaming women for all wrongs in the world they must first blame a few men for allowing women to get in the door (so to speak) with voting rights, educations, etc….which men do they blame – that I’m not totally certain of. On one hand it could be the so-called alphas who appear to live the kind of life the Mr. Manifestos-Migtoes feels they deserve but are unable to figure out why they don’t have it handed to them already. On the other they clearly blame men who don’t similarly hide under a very thin surface the boiling rage towards women and unlike them, have no interest in excising women from their lives (in fact, they kind of enjoy having us around and for all the right reasons) for being ok not getting other males to classify them as ‘alpha’ and still enjoying the company of women (along with better odds of establishing a relationship where they get the sexing :P) these guys try to tell themselves they don’t need or want.

Merus
Merus
5 years ago

I like how most MGOTW fantasies seem to end with society realising that they were right all along. How sad is it that their fantasy is basically for people to like them.

Also, how pathetic is it that their response to this is to make their own little subculture where they don’t have to show empathy.

gosuamakenatek
gosuamakenatek
5 years ago

He does make a good point in the beginning there, single men must have a lot of disposable income. I mean, I can’t think of another group who might have more disposable income than that…unless like, maybe if you had more than one person living in the same place, like a second person, or a “couple of people”, if you will, and between them they would each only need to pay half of the taxes, half the utilities, half the rent, etc. This way, they would each have more extra money together, and their combined extra money could be used to buy things they both want. It would be like a binding union of two incomes, or a “marriage” if you will.
It’s too bad such a thing doesn’t exist though, and even if it did, these brave manly “alphas” will be too busy for that, doing alpha things like spending all their time online whining and blaming women for all their problems, or lamenting about how oppressed men are because they have to take responsibility for their actions through things like child support, or throwing tantrums about how women don’t want anything to do with “alphas” like them just because of their insufferable misogynistic personalities. Such alpha, so male, wow.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
5 years ago

@Pandapool

And that implies the film wouldn’t be fun to watch how, exactly?

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
5 years ago

Wait, is that last comment of mine over-the-top? Apologies if so.

rusblock
rusblock
5 years ago

Robert
Robert
5 years ago

Ryeash – congratulations. I laughed until I almost hiccuped.

“HI, I HAVE ALL THE INSECURITIES. ALL OF THEM” is what I’ll think of when next I read something like that. And “Mr. Thundercock and his Thug Spawn” is an extremely vivid glimpse into the OP’s subconscious.

leftwingfox
5 years ago

gosuamakenatek: No kidding. Hell, if I had an unemployed significant other who cooked, I’d probably save enough money on my food bill to provide for us both without any extra outlay.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

@Rabid Rabbit

Yeah, I didn’t mean anything malicious by it. I’m just saying it would be a very short movie.

takshak
takshak
5 years ago

gonna nerd out here: “self- awareness” is not “self-conscious” or “sentient”. it just means that the subject is aware of itself as a separate entity. A lot of ceteceans and primates pass this test fairly easily, dogs don’t, etc. It’s not *that* big a deal

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

Oh boy! More Migtoe stoopidz! Lemme have a crack at this word soup:

[F]airly soon the governments of the world will get hip to the fact that the dudes who dont have women in their lives have a LOT of disposable income . If 80% of the dudes in society are unattached beta males with no kids and no wife, fairly soon someone’s gonna realize taxing those guys will pay for a lot of Mr Thundercock’s progeny. …

As has been pointed out numerous times here already, this sort of thing happens all the time in various parts of the world. Higher-income earners get taxed more than lower-income earners, especially those with dependent spouses and/or kids. Reason? THEY CAN EASILY AFFORD TO BE TAXED HIGHER, WITH PLENTY LEFT OVER FOR THEMSELVES. So, as a prediction of things to come, this one scores 0.

We’ll be served with a summons to present proof of gay marriage ,alimony expenses paid ,a court order for child support or a documented relationship with a female….or pay a 40% income tax until we do.The reason?

Wait…if marriage is truly going to be a thing of the past, won’t having to provide proof of it (gay or straight) be a thing of the past also? And why would you have to provide it, when civil registry offices already store such documentation as a matter of public record, anyway? And why would you be taxed 40% just for being single, as opposed to being in that particular income bracket? Future prediction score: Another goose-egg.

“All men should share the burden to pay for child support, because patriarchy.Whats more important-a kid or your classic 1965 Mustang restoration?”

Said no feminist (or woman) ever. ALL men don’t share the burden, nor should they, because not all men are fathers. Only men who sired a child (other than by anonymous sperm donation) are required to contribute child support, assuming that they are able to do so.

As for having to choose between a child and a ’65 Mustang restoration, that’s a false dichotomy if ever there was one. Lots of men not only restore antique cars, they also lovingly co-parent their own kids (or pay child support to ex-partners voluntarily). Some even teach their kids how to restore antique cars, and do it together with them! MIND. BLOWN!

Future prediction score: Yup, another goose-egg. Also, putting-words-in-mouths FAIL.

At first to sell the “Bachelor Tax” theyll apply it to females as a gesture of “equal burden”, but that’ll be a non-binding price ceiling. They’ll find a beta to happily vouch for being in a relationship so she can dodge the taxman …

A “non-binding price ceiling”? Dafuq is THAT? Also, “equal burden”. Wut?

The rest is so ludicrous that it doesn’t even bear attempting to tackle, because srsly, wut?

Future prediction score: A big, fat goose-egg.

Meanwhile , we single dudes will be looking over our shoulders every time we use an ATM.Next floor in the elevator of decline after that is polyamory …

Uh, fella, I hate to break it to you, but I look over my shoulders at ATMs all the time already. It’s a standard anti-theft precaution for us feeeeeemales. Also, I always keep a hand on my purse as I’m walking down the street.

As for the bit about polyamory: WUT?

I’m fresh out of goose-eggs. I’m gonna give this one a turkey-egg. They’re bigger.

Want to dodge the 40% bachelor tax, Mister Bluepill? Go find a bored fat girl who’s willing to vouch for you to the IRS that you’re a taken man.Of course nothing is free in this world……and you’ll have to prove to Miss Fatso you have the commitment required to join her roster.

Okay, this is just totally ludicrous. Besides that ass-pulled 40% figure for the imaginary “Bachelor Tax” (again), why does it have to be a fat woman? Why not a skinny or medium-sized woman? Questions, questions…which of course, this fool can’t answer.

Score: One slightly putrescent turkey-egg.

As for the alpha’s, itll be a lonely club-moving between harems means pissing off a few women. Itll be the lowest social category of public society; staying out of jail & poverty will mean fake ID’s and quick feet.Plate spinning for males will require CIA tradecraft to avoid imprisonment.

Oh sure, the future government will be spending vast amounts of time and money, just to track some bozo’s (imagined) “alpha” sex life. Yuh-huh. This one merits nothing short of a fully rotten motherfucking ostrich egg, because I’m feeling generous here. Bombs away!

(As for the bit about “plates” — and “land whales”, etc. — all the demeaning ways these clowns have to say “woman” without acknowledging personhood are duly noted. And pointed at, and ridiculed.)

Economies will crumble – women are actually waiting for this. They believe in the lies of the feminist utopia, where the rich white men at the top of the towers fall to their deaths, the towers topple and gold spills into the streets for everyone to plunder. They have no real knowledge of what the real repercussions of this will be – they think it will be handsome alphas fucking all the women while betas toil in the mines and obediently pay their taxes.

That’s not what is going to happen. Before it’s all over they will say “Oh no, what have we done?!”

These cries will fall on deaf ears.

Uh, dude? HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE’RE THINKING??? You can’t even think for yourself, and you presume to know what’s going through OUR heads? The only people who are actually waiting for economies to crumble are guys like you, because you may have just enough self-awareness to realize that there’s no way you could bag a damn thing for yourselves, so you’ll just have to wait till it dies before you can scavenge the carcass. Assuming, of course, that you don’t get scavenged yourselves, by post-apocalyptic wiseguys who are smarter, stronger and faster than you. Which, I would gather, is the most likely post-apocalyptic scenario. I mean, survival of the fittest, right?

As with everything requiring mental activity, these guys’ futuristic predictions are stunningly inept. If they wonder why none of us will care if and whenever they finally decide to Go Their Own Damn Way Already, I do believe this answers the question. Who would miss a guy as spectacularly idiotic as these?

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

PS: I also note, in passing, that the mechanical typewriter isn’t gone; in fact, given privacy concerns, it may be on the verge of making a dramatic comeback. (It’s already quite trendy among artsy hipsters.)

TheLurker
TheLurker
5 years ago

Why do MGTOW’s and MRA’s always think that women are going to fuck them over like this? Why do they think that we hate them so much we’re willing to ruin their lives for funzies, cry rape for a giggle and take their money thus leaving them destitute? Is it projection because so many of these MRA types do the same to women (aka Paul Elam) or are they just severely paranoid?

msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

I’m going to guess that they’ve heard stories about this one guy and that other one from the friend of a friend whose cousin knows them, and his half-brother knows the other guy through someone from his work.

There’s a lot of time to obsess over things they assume that others get to have or are doing – they see other guys getting dates, read stories about it, go into online forums where guys brag about it, and thus wonder why they don’t, make unusual leaps comparing themselves to all the guys that are getting these things, and conclude it can’t possibly be their fault so it *has* to be women’s fault.

Bernardo Soares
Bernardo Soares
5 years ago

@kirbywarp:

It’s a bit late now (I’m in the middle of applying for a bursary and in extreme stress. Thus the sporadic commenting here), but: did you have problems with motion sickness in Talos Principle? I found their options for motion sickness (especially TPP) extremely helpful, actually the best I’ve seen so far. Since I got a new widescreen monitor, I can’t play Portal any more (as well as other minimalist 3D environments) because of motion sickness. FoV adaptation doesn’t help. But Talos works fine for me. Only, for above reasons, I haven’t gotten very far yet.

Moggie
Moggie
5 years ago

In a hundred years’ time, guys like these will be restoring old sexbots, and still complaining. “This little beauty is a ’65 Genesis GA07-JL, a classic. They don’t make them like this any more. The SJWs ruined sexbots when they introduced the mandatory empathy module. They’ll be sorry! More and more men are opting out of today’s sexbots”.

Wazza
Wazza
5 years ago

“while betas toil in the mines and obediently pay their taxes.”

Kent Brockman: “I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves”

I can no longer tell the difference between reality & a cartoon.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ mockingbird

Sorry, didn’t see your original query upthread. Mind you, I don’t know the answer anyway.

It seems it’s based on how ‘children per mother’ (hence the rape exception). Not sure though what would happen if say a man had two children with one partner and then ended up taking in an earlier child by another partner. I know there was a story saying that a family that had two kids and wanted to adopt were told they wouldn’t get benefit for the adopted ‘third’ kid.

When the Bill receives final assent then maybe there’ll be a guide or something published.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

TheLurker

Why do MGTOW’s and MRA’s always think that women are going to fuck them over like this? Why do they think that we hate them so much we’re willing to ruin their lives for funzies, cry rape for a giggle and take their money thus leaving them destitute? Is it projection because so many of these MRA types do the same to women (aka Paul Elam) or are they just severely paranoid?

msexceptiontotherule

I’m going to guess that they’ve heard stories about this one guy and that other one from the friend of a friend whose cousin knows them, and his half-brother knows the other guy through someone from his work.

There’s a lot of time to obsess over things they assume that others get to have or are doing – they see other guys getting dates, read stories about it, go into online forums where guys brag about it, and thus wonder why they don’t, make unusual leaps comparing themselves to all the guys that are getting these things, and conclude it can’t possibly be their fault so it *has* to be women’s fault.

My guess is that their experience of women comes from a particular subset (due to innate misogyny), and they then generalise this to all women.

If I only associate with conventionally attractive women who don’t threaten me by being intelligent or professionally capable, then my experience of women will be that I fund their lives in exchange for access to their bodies. If I am entirely blind to any women who isn’t on the end of my penis, then I might forget that any other women exist at all. I might then visualise the entirety of the female gender as being like the women I’ve chosen to associate with.

Fortunately for humanity but unfortunately for MRA-and-adjacent, most women are actually intelligent, independent, awesome people who have no qualms about organising politically in order to further their interests.

A syllogism emerges which only makes sense if you’re an MRA/MGTOW/PUA:

A: Women take money from men.
B: Women are flexing their political muscles.
C: Women’s political movements must have the end goal of taking money from men.

Like all syllogisms, this leads to an untrue conclusion if one of the premises is false. In this case the falseness comes from the fact that the women who are financially dependent on men tend not to be the women who are flexing their political muscles.

Also, they’re misogynists and fuck misogyny.

hajiminion
5 years ago

Of course these guys want terrifying sex robots.

Queez-51
Queez-51
5 years ago

Weirdtreewoodhugher.

Thanx 4 the show, didn´t know about it.

Matt
Matt
5 years ago

Once, we wondered how Skynet came to hate humanity enough to want to kill us all. Then, we found out that it started its existence as an the CPU in an MRA’s sexbot and everything suddenly made perfect sense.

Lorcan Nagle
Lorcan Nagle
5 years ago

“Once, we wondered how Skynet came to hate humanity enough to want to kill us all. Then, we found out that it started its existence as an the CPU in an MRA’s sexbot and everything suddenly made perfect sense.”

That gives me an idea for a Role Playing Game scenario.

sn0rkmaiden
5 years ago

@Mockingbird,

all good questions, and ones I suspect our chancellor does not have the answers to.

The new two child policy is in response to a negative stereotype in Britain of non working single mothers who pop out lots of children in order to receive benefit (welfare) for them. In reality very few women do this, but our tabloid newspapers and media like to find such women and falsely hold them up as typical benefit claimants.

It’s basically a very clumsy attempt at social engineering, and another attempt to punish poor people for a financial crisis which had nothing to do with them.

I suspect they’ll have to abandon it once it becomes clear that it’ll be a nightmare to implement. Right now benefit is received by the custodial parent, usually the mother but sometimes the father or other carer. I think the limit will be applied per household, but as you point out many households will combine children from multiple relationships. I know a woman with two children from her ex-husband who’s now living with her current partner who has three children from his previous marriage, they care for all five children, to suggest they should be penalized for that is ridiculous.

And then there’s the issue of what to do with women who do have a third child after the law comes into place, will they have to somehow prove they couldn’t avoid getting pregnant?

There’s good Guardian article about it here:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/14/harriet-harman-welfare-bill-weird-labour-two-child-tax-plan

I realize this probably belongs on the open thread.

Falconer
5 years ago

@Peter Hockley:

I’ve obviously missed something, I’ve never married. I already pay more income tax when in work than families with children. Never really bothered me. Whats this red pill, blue pill trope? Very strange people.

Hi! I haven’t seen you around before. Make yourself at home, and help yourself to a Welcome Package by scrolling down and clicking on the big candle pic, if you haven’t got one before.

I see you’ve got your kitty avatar already. Nice one!

I haven’t seen anyone else address your question, so I’ll try.

“Red pill, blue pill” is a metaphor lifted shamelessly from The Matrix, if that wasn’t obvious. MRAs believe that they see the world for what it really is, a terrible place where women value men only for their wallets, and scheme to entrap men with sex and babies just for the money. MRAs take it as gospel truth that unattached men have a lot more money. That may be true, for some people, but they seem to think that all men have high-paying jobs.

In this instance, the MRAs have followed their line of reasoning to the conclusion that the women (who run the world) have decided to force men into marriage by raising taxes on single men, as if the only reason to make a decision is financial.

They have certainly come to a wrong conclusion about how and why the world works the way it does, based primarily on faulty premises grounded in hating women.

Amused
5 years ago

I hope we dont suffer a Big Collapse ; the only thing worse then living in a matriarchy is wandering a post-industrial disaster filled with desperate bluepill males ,ruthless whores ,and easy accessed personal weapons with no law or order.You think guys are thirsty simps NOW….just wait until a society of feminized she-dudes have to figure out how to live without Amazon Prime and extended warranties.

As a former medievalist (in addition to being a feminazi, of course), I always get a kick out of these guys’ fantasies of what a civilizational collapse would look like. Setting aside the mechanics of it (there has never been a Big Collapse, not even with the Black Death wiped out perhaps as much as 50% of Europe’s population between 1347 and 1350), I love how people list all kinds of Biggest Problems they think would occur if there was no society anymore — rape, roving gangs, sex stuff, depressing post-industrial paysage, gladiatorial combat — while ignoring the obvious: WATER. Most people have no idea where their drinking water comes from. Most people (in the US at least) live in places that are supplied with water from far away, using extremely sophisticated delivery systems. Once the bottled water is gone and the pumps stop working, and the swimming pools are sucked dry … a great deal of people will simply die of thirst. Alpha Males included, and no amount of “game” and posturing would change that.

Even if you secure access to some source of water, getting clean water would be a huge problem. If we look at historical examples of civilizations being put under pressure — through massive warfare, for instance — the most devastating long-term consequence is disease, much of it waterborne. Without modern — electricity-powered — water treatment systems, it’s basically impossible to keep sewage and parasites out of your drinking water supply. Which means cholera, parasitic worms, botulism, flesh-eating bacteria, E.coli, legionellosis, typhoid fever — and this is not a complete list. These diseases were the bane of humanity well into the 20th century, and retain their grip in underdeveloped societies and regions ravaged by war or natural disasters.

I would submit that if something like a Big Collapse were to happen, our hero would have a good chance to spend the rest of his shot-*** life projectile-pooping and curled up in agonizing pain. Under those circumstances, “whores” and “blue pills” would be the least of his worries.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ amused

Yup. They should probably read up on hydraulic despotism for clues as to what life would be like. And for those thinking they’ll just keep raiding the stores for bottled water (a) you won’t be the only person with that idea and (b) water + plastic = short shelf life.

sn0rkmaiden
5 years ago

@Amused,

yes, that’s puzzled me during all those seasons of ‘The Walking Dead’, where are they getting their water from? Season 4 showed them rigging up a basic system using the local river, and I suppose the farm in season 2 had a rain tank, but I’ve never seen it rain in that show….

Living in London there’s a lot more natural rainfall and there are a lot of rivers, but I’m not sure how much good boiling it will do. To be honest I think a bit too much about surviving post-collapse, blame it on all the zombie dramas I watch.

Falconer
5 years ago

I’m in Tennessee, we have a whole genre of folk music about that time when the gummint came in and flooded everyone’s farms. My family and I will be hydrated a lot longer than most people. Doesn’t stop me from worrying about California.

Moggie
Moggie
5 years ago

sn0rkmaiden:

Living in London there’s a lot more natural rainfall and there are a lot of rivers, but I’m not sure how much good boiling it will do. To be honest I think a bit too much about surviving post-collapse, blame it on all the zombie dramas I watch.

As a fellow Londoner, I can understand that obsession. A zombie apocalypse is pretty much my only hope of affording a bigger flat.