The MGTOWs on the GYOW forum are thinking about tomorrow, putting on their futurist hats and pondering what will happen when, as they think is inevitable, more and more men “take the red pill” and walk away from women to a new life of happiness and wonder in which they devote their days to grousing endlessly about the women they’ve walked away from.
There’s a little talk of apocalypse, and a quick mention of sexbots, but these fellas seem most worried about, well, taxes. Because naturally, big daddy government — under the control of evil feminists and manginas — will try to take a kind of revenge against Men Going Their Own Way by instituting a dreadful Bachelor Tax.
Octavian explains just how it’s all going to go down. First, “marriage will go the way of the mechanical typewriter.” Next, the taxman cometh.
[F]airly soon the governments of the world will get hip to the fact that the dudes who dont have women in their lives have a LOT of disposable income . If 80% of the dudes in society are unattached beta males with no kids and no wife, fairly soon someone’s gonna realize taxing those guys will pay for a lot of Mr Thundercock’s progeny. …
We’ll be served with a summons to present proof of gay marriage ,alimony expenses paid ,a court order for child support or a documented relationship with a female….or pay a 40% income tax until we do.The reason?
“All men should share the burden to pay for child support, because patriarchy.Whats more important-a kid or your classic 1965 Mustang restoration?”
At first to sell the “Bachelor Tax” theyll apply it to females as a gesture of “equal burden”, but that’ll be a non-binding price ceiling. They’ll find a beta to happily vouch for being in a relationship so she can dodge the taxman …
Meanwhile , we single dudes will be looking over our shoulders every time we use an ATM.Next floor in the elevator of decline after that is polyamory …
Want to dodge the 40% bachelor tax, Mister Bluepill? Go find a bored fat girl who’s willing to vouch for you to the IRS that you’re a taken man.Of course nothing is free in this world……and you’ll have to prove to Miss Fatso you have the commitment required to join her roster.
As for the alpha’s, itll be a lonely club-moving between harems means pissing off a few women. Itll be the lowest social category of public society; staying out of jail & poverty will mean fake ID’s and quick feet.Plate spinning for males will require CIA tradecraft to avoid imprisonment.
Unlike a lot of Manosphere prognosticators, Octavian isn’t secretly (or not-so-secretly) hoping for a grand collapse of civilization.
I hope we dont suffer a Big Collapse ; the only thing worse then living in a matriarchy is wandering a post-industrial disaster filled with desperate bluepill males ,ruthless whores ,and easy accessed personal weapons with no law or order.You think guys are thirsty simps NOW….just wait until a society of feminized she-dudes have to figure out how to live without Amazon Prime and extended warranties.
Insidious_Sid, meanwhile, thinks that the Bachelor Tax will just be the beginning.
There will be a tax war. Men saying “fuck it” will continue to be taxed more and more to pay for more and more bastard alpha babies. Governments will continue to create more insidious ways of getting men to pay for children that are not theirs.
And, oh yeah, after all this? The apocalypse.
Economies will crumble – women are actually waiting for this. They believe in the lies of the feminist utopia, where the rich white men at the top of the towers fall to their deaths, the towers topple and gold spills into the streets for everyone to plunder. They have no real knowledge of what the real repercussions of this will be – they think it will be handsome alphas fucking all the women while betas toil in the mines and obediently pay their taxes.
That’s not what is going to happen. Before it’s all over they will say “Oh no, what have we done?!”
These cries will fall on deaf ears.
Oh, and there will be sexbot taxes as well. According to Abdenour,
Technologically, there will be sex robots. One question is, what legislation feminist, manginas and white knights will pass in the West to make land whales more competitive with robots. Maybe some sex robot 1,000% tax to provide income for single land whales and their thug spawn.
MGTOWs are pretty much the world’s worst science fiction authors.
“MGTOWs are pretty much the world’s worst science fiction authors.”
Neck & neck with Vox Day / Theodore Beale, really.
I suspect the legislation we’ll provide will consist of slapping a lifetime guarantee on each sexbot and wishing their purchasers the best of happiness. The further these people get from actual women, the happier the world will be.
Meanwhile the rest of us can get on with important things, like working out the optimal traffic flow patterns in Cities: Skylines.
Is it just me, or does the rocket in that poster look like a buttplug?
I wonder if any contributors of that forum post participated in the following study:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/07/20/men-who-harass-women-online-are-quite-literally-losers-new-study-finds/?tid=sm_fb
There really isn’t enough WTF in this world to cover this delusional acid trip.
“Amazon Prime” sounds like she should be the leader in this post apocalyptic utopia. I vote Pam Greer for the role.
There’s so much of a “I’m going to run away from home and then you’ll be sorry” vibe with these MGTOWs. They so desperately want us to care that they won’t have sex with us that they’ve convinced themselves it’s true.
Calling this “science fiction” is an insult to science fiction, it’s MRA fan fiction and blatant Mary Sue fan fiction at that.
*cracks knuckles*
I’ve not done this yet, but I want to give it a shot.
I wonder if that “80%” is an example of MRA/migtoe facts at work. I’d be interested in seeing their math, since by their own logic women always “settle” for beta bux.
Also, “Mr Thundercock” what?
I’ll admit I’m still new to this whole thing, but I’m pretty sure that’s not what the patriarchy does. In fact, that doesn’t even come across as a reason to me. What reason would the patriarchy have to tax men extra because they’re not in a relationship with a feeeeeemale?
Indeed, right here Octavian goes on to say that feeeeeemales can just rope one of those “80% of the . . . beta males” into . . . dodging taxes? Isn’t dodging taxes a pretty serious thing itself?
If you’re getting taxed every time you use the ATM, I think you’ve got bigger problems. Also, I’m not sure how polyamory follows on from being taxed because you’re single.
“Fat girls are lonely and desperate, hahahaha!”
I’m not sure that even deserves to have any more said about it.
So . . . “being alpha” will become illegal? Because . . . I’ve got nothing. Maybe Blockheadian should’ve thrown in some references to the “gynocracy” prior to this. Also, if being alpha is illegal, then once again “Mr Thundercock” what?
Transphobia. Classic. Been a while since I saw some of that get mixed in to one of these screeds.
I live without Amazon Prime already. And given the way misogynists tend to describe things, I think you could be forgiven for thinking that he’s just talking about modern-day America with this whole “desperate bluepill males, ruthless wh*res, and easy accessed personal weapons” thing.
The apocalypse-predicting stuff doesn’t seem to be anything new, and if they weren’t raging misogynists I’d always feel like they’re trying to be comedians with that.
“All men should share the burden to pay for child support, because patriarchy.Whats more important-a kid or your classic 1965 Mustang restoration?”
The kid. All the time. I don’t care about your Mustang. This is like cherishing the best of the past or betting for a better future. The future. All the time the future.
In another way, I kind of like the idea of everyone having to pay for all the kids in our/your country. Think about it: If every family received an alimony for each kid they have, it would be less child work, more kids not having to leave school and more kids around to keep the current amount of people. Of course it will be people trying to game the system, but I believe the benefits are going to be outweigh the problems every day.
“At first to sell the “Bachelor Tax” theyll apply it to females as a gesture of “equal burden”, but that’ll be a non-binding price ceiling. They’ll find a beta to happily vouch for being in a relationship so she can dodge the taxman” doesn’t that solve their tax issue? Do they not realize there are roughly as many women as men? Or does something else happen in this post apocalyptic world to make women scarce?
Interestingly, I’ve seen lots of arguments for getting rid of the marriage refund (from feminists and others). I’m kind of surprised they didn’t talk about that, since its, you know, anchored in reality?
A good rant, dslucia1!
Thanks, the other EJ.
Upon rereading, I think I’ve figured out the “polyamory” bit.
Being taxed for being single means everyone is going to try getting into a relationship.
But, because wimminz have all the power all the time and get their choice of the poor, discarded men, that means that women are going to take multiple lovers to dodge this single tax. Why would they do that, since simply being in one relationship is enough? Well, obviously because those finicky feeeemales are after the beta bux too, so if they just get into relationships with everybody then they’ll have ALL THE MONEY.
Though, as me and not you mentioned, I’d think this would cancel out their reasons to be afraid of the “Bachelor Tax” in the first place, since they would all suddenly be getting into relationsh-oh.
My recommendation for sexbots is that they be required to have a very specific, hard-to-adapt-to charging mechanism, with a lone multi-port charger located someplace in the Oklahoma desert. The MGTOWs will be welcome to build a little community around that charging station.
This, in turn, helps them go their own fucking way, already, and lets the rest of us not deal with them.
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Can’t unsee.
Clearly these dipshits are unaware there’s ALREADY A BACHELOR TAX.
Married couples get lots of generous tax breaks. More men GTOW ing would actually mean *more* tax revenue, in the form of fewer people claiming the marriage tax credit.
And… “Mr thundercock” and his “thug spawn”, eh? Ah, MGTOW, come for the stupidity and utter ignorance, stay for th barely veiled racism!
The first paragraph of that forum thread made me laugh.
I hope he gets paid extra for such a high risk environment. Think of all the false rape accusations he could be landed with! What a brave man.
Wait, a gay marriage counts? Why would the Matriarchy allow MGTOWitB* to get away without the bachelor tax, if the point is that you get taxed if you don’t have kids?
PS Dear MRAs: your taxes already subsidize everyone’s kids. It’s called tax breaks, get over it.
* I intended this to be “in the bedroom,” get your minds out of the gutter.
You’re kidding, right?
I’m waiting for the sun to die. It’s a long wait.
Hang on. My economics/politics/tax policy brain isn’t working just now. Isn’t it possible that people with lots and lots of disposable income who use ATMs frequently are spending lots of money on lots of stuff that attracts VAT/GST/whatever-sales-taxes-apply-wherever-you-live?
Just because you’re not buying toddler formula or constantly re-stocking pantries/ linen closets/ wardrobes for a household of 5+ people doesn’t mean you’re not paying taxes. You just pay tax on different stuff. Perhaps I should wait for a message from my feminist friend Katy in order to get the right responses according to The Feminist Hivemind in case I’m doing this all wrong.
My husband is pretty “beta” if one were to buy into this mode of thinking. My boyfriends have all been pretty “beta”. Even at the law firm, and looking only at the lawyers, probably 70% of them are “beta” in looks and action (make good money, though… so does that make an alpha?)
So my question is, where are all these Alpha men the guys at Red Pill are so intimidated by (or jealous of)? Cause hell, I’d try one! 😉 I can be superifical too!
@ginnyn65
It’s not as good an idea as it sounds, depending on how you execute it. First of all, if you give the same amount of money to everybody irrespective of class, you’ll end up giving rich people money they don’t need and which won’t change their decision to have kids in the first place.
Secondly, in Germany the (conservative) government introduced such a model, but with one caveat: you only get the money if one parent stays at home. The (intended) result: mothers will stay home much more often, because they usually earn less and because this is still the standard social norm. Besides that, the other intention was to save money, because more stay-at-home parents (i.e., mothers) meant that the government didn’t need to improve the supply of daycare centers, which people had pressurised it to do.
Also, I’m always weary of the demographic arguments (“more kids around”) that could basically be solved with a more liberal immigration policy. It’s always good to have more kids in Western societies, but in Africa, it’s overpopulation.
What the heck is with these men and sex bots?
“That’s not what is going to happen. Before it’s all over they will say ‘Oh no, what have we done?!’
These cries will fall on deaf ears.”
What does this remind me of? Oh, right:
“This city is afraid of me. I have seen its true face. The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout ‘Save us!’…
…and I’ll look down, and whisper ‘no.'”
I just don’t get these guys. I don’t think I’ve ever dated a woman that made *less* than I did. Maybe the blues singer.
But it’s never been a problem, except for the times when *i* was the one having the problem cause my career had stalled or whatever. Gosh, I guess there must be something I bring to a relationship that’s not a checkbook!
Hah. They think we’re *threatened* by sexbots. How cute.