There are two more stops on sleazeball PUA and Rape legalization advocate Roosh Valizadeh’s “World Tour,” both in Canada. He’s scheduled talks in Montreal on August 8 and Toronto on the 15th.
Some folks are trying to make sure he doesn’t enter Canada at all, setting up a petition on Change.org demanding that the Canadian government “DENY ‘Roosh V’ Entry to Canada for the purposes of disseminating hate.”
Here’s their basic case:
Roosh V. is coming to Canada specifically for the purposes of violating section 319 of the Canadian Criminal Code, which clearly prohibits gathering and organizing for the purposes of inciting hatred of an identifiable group. The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has identified both Roosh and his website as hate-based, and the hateful misogynistic views that he is coming to Canada to disseminate are likely to breach public peace.
From advocating for the decriminalization of rape to imploring men to sexually abuse women with mental illness to straight up dehumanizing women as an entire group, ‘The Return of Kings’ is part of a hate-scene that has been developing a growing presence on the web. MRA’s and ‘Pick Up Artists’ (PUA’s) alike are attracted to Roosh and his website not only because it, like all hate groups, provides an easy scapegoat to blame all of their problems on, but because it also promises to provide them with an easy guide to sexually abusing women. The most dangerous ideas that Roosh propagates are about what to do with women in the real world: how to treat them, why and how they owe men sex, how to best take full advantage of their fundamental inhumanity. …
As a nation we have already decided that hate speech has no place in Canada. Hate is hate, and it is physically dangerous. We must ensure that Roosh and his following are not allowed to flourish in the dark corners of our society, for the same reasons that we do not allow white supremacy a legitimate place in Canada.
You can sign the petition here. So far it’s garnered more than 2600 signatures.
And move quickly: Roosh says he’ll be heading to Canada well in advance of his talks there, “staying in Montreal for many weeks to find out whether it’s a good city to visit during the summer, when the European cities empty out and become full of tourists.” Indeed, it’s possible he’s already there, though signing the petition still sends a message or revulsion at his actions and beliefs.
NOTE: The petition refers to Roosh as an MRA, though he doesn’t identify himself as one, which will probably cause numerous MRA heads to explode. It’s worth pointing out that, while Roosh doesn’t seem to care about a number of issues that MRAs purport to care about, his misogynistic ideology is in many key ways almost indistinguishable from many MRAs. Indeed, the main complaint that many MRAs have about PUAs like Roosh is that they are allegedly too enamored of women. Or, as A Voice for Men has repeatedly (and quite inaccurately) put it, that PUA’s are “pussy beggars.”
Well, we could always pull a Sorcerer’s Apprentice and just put him in a Grimhold for the rest of time, keeping it locked away in an obscure shop of oddities that no one ever visits ever.
Or we can put it in the wet cement foundations of a building, and just let him harden there.
Hi! I’m Lauren, been lurking for a few weeks or so, finally decided to make an account (even made the kitty avatar, because, i mean, really, who could resist?).
Anyways, I’m definitely signing this petition, even with the possibility that Roosh is already in Canada. Hope it does something, or at least it gets enough attention.
@Paradoxical
Neither of those would work if he reincarnates, unfortunately.
So, again, thanks.
Or we can pull a batman and put him on a rocket into space you can’t steer with no food or water or oxygen. Rez and die rez and die :p
Well, in the Grimhold, he can’t change or reincarnate. He’d be put into a stasis, so I fail to see how this is a problem. : P
Aurini does look a lot like Voldemort in a silly hat…
Signed and I encourage everyone else to sign too share this if you must and can we please have a petition to send roosh and everyone else like him to a remote island far away from civilization including taking the internet away from them as well?
Can we get Roosh banned from entering ANY country?…make him live on a boat in international waters or something…
@Paradoxical
…Oh. Sorry.
On topic: I’d like to sign it, but I’d personally feel wrong about it because I’m not a Canadian nor do I live in Canada. Good luck though!
Oh, God, on top of everything else, could you imagine the unbearable amount of faux-existentialist angst that Aurini would fall into if he actually became immortal?
Also, found the article that the second quote in that poster was referencing.
http://www.donotlink.com/g02g
Somehow, the level of Roosh’s depravity never ceases to amaze me.
Yeah, I think so. Like, I doubt that they would have been able to charge Julian Blanc on hate speech or accessory to domestic violence, so maybe deporting him was the most expedient option. As a statement that Victoria was serious about domestic violence, it made an impact, as well. But it opens uncomfortable questions about whether there’s appropriate oversight over this decision to stop it being abused (which the Immigration Department definitely proved this year with the plan to strip dual nationals of their citizenship if they joined ISIS).
But then, this isn’t Julian Blanc, is it, it’s Roosh. Roosh is probably going to try and rape a Canadian, and he’s probably not going to post a time when he’s going to do it. So keeping him out of the country will definitely prevent a crime at the potential cost of the Canadian immigration department maybe making a bad choice later.
So I guess I’m not that conflicted.
I live in Montreal and i really really hope he won’t be allowed to cross the borders.
Welcome, Lauren!
Ick. I almost want to give him enough (metaphorical) rope to (metaphorically) hang himself with, but there are people who actually believe the vile rape apologia he espouses and I’m pretty sure that letting him have a venue where he can pour his hatred into the minds of those already inclined to share that hatred will make him look ridiculous in the way he should. If it’s obvious that he is entering a country to explicitly do something against the law in that country, he should of course be prevented from entry!
Fred Phelps once wanted to enter Canada for the express purpose of burning a Canadian flag on the steps of our Supreme Court in protest at some pro-gay decision or other.
Canada has no idiotic anti-flag burning laws. Nevertheless, Phelps chickened out when the RCMP informed him, doubtless very politely, that they could/would not guarantee his safety.
I’d be quite fine with this scenario being repeated here.
Wait, in summer the cities ’empty out and become full of tourists’? What? How does that work?
As a “typical” American, I was honestly shocked when I learned other countries require truth and civility in their free speech guarantees. Embarrassingly shocked.
I researched living in Panama, and the ” you better make sure it’s true before you make a public comment” was simply amazing to me. If you call a woman a whore, you better be damn sure she has sex for money. If not, she can pretty easily sue and win. I’m sure this may have a double edge, but damned if I can think it’s “bad” .
People should be responsible for what they say and if they spread deliberate untruths (Fox “News”, Roosh, mra’s, ect), then they should be made to answer for lies and untruths and calls to violence.
My thoughts after a stupid amount of time thinking about it.
I don’t know if as an American that I’ll count, but I signed.
Alais,
That’s just horrible.
First, there’s the truly bizarre blindness to the fact that rape scenes in movies aren’t always meant to be boner pleasing. In fact, outside of rape fantasy porn, rape scenes actually should not be arousing.
Second there’s all the stuff that I don’t even quote because it’s so vile about how the victim should eventually be turned on and even like the rapist afterwards. Roosh can pretend he’s not a rape apologist all he wants, but the notion that women secretly want to be raped and that if you “take” a woman she will love it is such a huge part of rape culture. He is absolutely implying here that women want to be raped.
Then there’s this little gem.
Appropriating anti-black racism to cast himself as some sort of victim of people who oppose rape all the while complaining again about how a non-porn rape scene displeases his boner. I haven’t seen Irreversible, but I’m going to go out on a limb and guess he completely missed the point of it. Even if he were telling the truth about not being a rapist, that would still be just awful.
Thank you for the link. I’ve signed and shared. I am curious, though, if he’s been hanging out in Montreal this summer….. In some ways, it’s a pretty open kind of place when it comes to sexuality. I don’t see his PUA-schitck getting him very far, especially if he can’t speak French.
Chaltab,
It’s my understanding that August is vacation time in Europe. I’ve heard lots of people head out and travel for “holiday” in August, which would leave the cities full of tourists. I can’t swear to the veracity of this, but that is what I’ve understood and I think that is what that comment is referring to.
@WWTH
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In positive news, I found a word for one of the best smell in the world:
Petrichor, the earthy scent produced when rain falls on dry soil.
I mean that’s awesome. Never knew that was a word.
Welcome, Lauren! Anyone who likes cute kitty avatars is a friend of mine.
Best of luck to Canadians on this. I doubt the petition will have any effect, but that doesn’t make it any less of an honourable thing to do. Besides, Canada has been surprising me with how together its shit has been over the last few months: maybe you’ll end up surprising me.
@WWTH,
Yeah, he’s pretty clearly pissed when movies remind him that women don’t actually enjoy being raped and/or that rape is generally horrible.