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As promised, here is the new and I think improved comments policy.

It’s a bit long, but that’s in part because I’ve included sections that are designed to hopefully eliminate some of the contentious and often repetitive debates that have erupted in the past over the issue of ableism — in particular the use of words like “crazy” and “psycho” and the like. In the future, I am hoping that we can simply link new commenters to the policy (in particular, the “notes on ‘crazy'”) section and avoid a lot of the drama.

This policy is stricter towards those who “dig in” and insist on using problematic terms even though they’ve been informed of the rules about them; if they’ve been linked to the comments policy and persist in arguing or behaving badly, they will be banned. I’m also asking regulars to rein in their language in criticizing first-time offenders, and to not argue back with them if they persist. (There’s not much point to it, because offenders who persist will be banned.)

Not all of the changes and additions to the comments policy are in response to the ableism debates; I’ve also taken into consideration other controversies here, as well as comments policies on other blogs and broader discussions online about the best ways to moderate sites.

One other change: I will also put regular reminders in posts that all new commenters should read the comments policy before posting.

I am very much cognizant that many people who regularly read this blog — some of them who comment here regularly, some of whom are lurkers or only occasional commenters — are frustrated by the flame wars that have erupted here from time to time. I am frustrated as well, and troubled by the personal attacks I’ve seen in these discussions, directed not at trolls but at other commenters here in good faith.

I hope this new comment policy can end some of these flame wars before they start. If it doesn’t, I will (reluctantly) have to resort to shutting threads down and even suspending some commenters.

So here is the new comments policy. Discuss. Suggest improvements. Be civil.

Welcome prospective commenters!

Unmoderated internet forums quickly become shitheaps, so we have a few rules here. One thing to remember right off the bat: this is a feminist blog, designed (mostly) for a feminist audience. You don’t have to be a particular kind of feminist to post here, or even a feminist at all, but you do need to keep this in mind.

First comments from new commenters – or old commenters changing their name – automatically go to moderation. Regardless of your politics, if you start off here with a jerky or tediously argumentative comment, or if you trigger some other red flag for me, your first comment will never see the light of day.

MRAs, MGTOWs, PUAs, Red Pillers, “Equalists,” #GamerGaters and the like: you will be allowed to post here, if your first comment is amusing and/or not especially egregious, and if you more-or-less behave.

But I reserve the right to revoke your posting privileges at any time for any reason. You have a right to your opinions, but you don’t have a right to our attention. I am especially not interested in hearing your thoughts on Anita Sarkeesian (or some other target of angry dude harassment online).

Oh, and I sometimes set aside threads here as “no troll, no MRA” threads. If you post in one of them, even politely, you will be banned.

If you’re NOT an MRA or a troll, welcome!

You’re who this blog is really meant for. The comments too, provided you can participate in a generally constructive manner and can treat those you disagree with here with a certain degree of respect. Snark is fine; attacks and accusations and namecalling, not so much. 

If someone – whether a troll or a regular commenter — is acting badly enough to possibly warrant a suspension or ban, EMAIL ME OR THE MODS. That’s the fastest and most effective way to get it taken care of.

Some slightly more specific guidelines.

No bigotry (misogyny, racism, homophobia, transphobia, ableism, body shaming, and so forth). No slurs. I’ve put the worst ones in the mod filter, so comments containing them won’t appear. If you want to discuss someone else’s use of a slur, disguise the word so your comment won’t get caught by the filter – though if you do this as a “clever” way to use a slur yourself, you may well find yourself banned.

No threats or violent comments. That includes telling someone to “die in a fire” or remarking that so-and-so would probably be better off dead. This rule is in effect even when you are talking about vile misogynistic shitbags.

No gratuitously nasty personal attacks. Yes, discussions can sometimes get a bit contentious. You’re not required to be perfectly nice all the time. Just don’t be a total asshole. And don’t drag your disagreements with someone into every thread.

No doxxing or posting of personal identifying information. Don’t spread rumors or speculate without evidence on the possible criminal activity of anyone else, whether this is another commenter or a misogynistic shitbag.

No rape apologism, pedo apologism, victim blaming, and so forth.

Don’t misgender anyone. If you do it accidentally, apologize and get it right the next time. If you do it deliberately, you’re out.

Don’t attack anyone for their sexual preferences or kinks, so long as they involve consenting adults. Refrain from weird or creepy sexual oversharing. Whatever your opinion of sex work, don’t disparage sex workers, or use words like “whore” as a pejorative. (Feel free to talk about MRAs who are using the word pejoratively.)

Don’t attack people for their religion or their lack of religion.

Don’t be a mansplainer or indeed any kind of ‘splainer. That is, don’t lecture anyone on something they know better than you, particularly if that thing is their lived experience.

Don’t post too much or try to make threads all about you. Try to avoid drama.

If you have personal issues you want to bring up, that’s fine! Use the troll-free open threads set aside for personal stuff. I’ll post a new one every couple of weeks. (I also start threads regularly to discuss big events in the news that people here are concerned about; feel free to email if you think something has happened that warrants one.)

No sockpuppeting. No lying. No misrepresentation of yourself or other people. No posting in bad faith – e.g. posting friendly comments here while trashing the site and/or the people on it elsewhere.

No pile-ons. If a number of people have already offered the same criticism of another commenter, don’t add more comments to the pile.

All this said, you don’t have to be perfect to comment here. As sociologist Katherine Cross (@Quinnae_Moon) has noted, very few people arrive “fully formed to the world of activism, the perfect agents of change, somehow entirely cognizant of the ever shifting morass of rules and prescribed or proscribed words, phrases, argot, and thought.”

I want this blog to be open to all those who genuinely oppose misogyny and bigotry more generally, even those who may slip up from time to time.

Still, if you’re new here, or new to feminism, and the regulars here are telling you to avoid certain words, or pointing out something that you’re doing that’s problematic, don’t take it as a personal attack (unless it is couched as a personal attack, in which case email me). If they tell you to avoid particular language, uh, avoid using that language, and don’t explain that in your country calling a person a something-or-other is perfectly fine.

You don’t have to agree with all the rules and/or cultural norms here; but while you’re commenting here you are expected to respect them. If you think a rule is really, really wrong or ridiculous, don’t argue about it in the comments; send me an email about it.

And this brings us to the issue of ableism, which has been a contentious one here.

NOTES ON “CRAZY”

Avoid “crazy” talk. That is, using words like “crazy,” “psycho” and the like to describe the terrible ideas and actions of people you don’t like. It’s stigmatizing to those dealing with mental illness, who really don’t need the extra indignity of being compared to MRAs. Try using words like “ridiculous” or “absurd” or “terrible” instead. Call someone an “asshole” instead of a “psycho.” Try to avoid internet diagnoses of mental illness, and don’t use autism or Aspergers as an excuse for someone’s shitty behavior.

Saying someone is “paranoid,” “delusional,” or “narcissistic” is fine, if you don’t mean it as a diagnosis; these are useful descriptive terms.

If there is evidence that someone you are discussing does indeed have a mental illness, and this is relevant to the discussion, it can be appropriate to bring this up, though you should keep in mind that a hunch is not evidence.

All this said, words like “crazy,” “psycho,” and the like are extremely common, and plenty of people (including feminists, progressives, and people dealing with mental illness themselves) use them casually without intending to stigmatize those with mental illnesses. There’s a difference between saying “crazy people should all be locked up” and “boy, Eraserhead sure was a crazy movie!”

If you’re someone who uses these terms casually, and doesn’t actually want all “crazy” people locked up, it doesn’t make you an evil person, but you need to refrain from doing it here. (Again, if you disagree with this policy, and feel a need to make this disagreement known, DO NOT ARGUE ABOUT IT IN THE COMMENTS, send me an email instead.)

If you are a regular commenter here, and someone uses a problematic term like “crazy” or “psycho,” remind them gently that this is not how we do things here, and send them a link to this comment policy (and possibly the Welcome Package as well). Unless what they have said is particularly egregious, do not insult them or question their motives.

If they argue, remind them that arguing about this rule is also not allowed. If they continue, do not argue back; send me or the mods a note and they will be banned. (This may take a little while, so be patient and please do not give in to the impulse to argue with them.)

If others have already reminded them of the rules, move on.

Again, if someone is acting really shitty in the comments, whether a troll or a regular, SEND THE MODS (or me) AN EMAIL.

One other thing to keep in mind:

MRAs read this blog. So I would strongly urge you to comment here using an anonymous handle that cannot be traced to your real identity. And to be very careful about revealing any sort of personal information on this blog. If you inadvertently post something using the wrong account, or that otherwise reveals personal information, let the mods know so we can remove those comments.

Oh, wait, one other other thought:

Enjoy yourself!

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weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Please provide evidence for this accusation or retract it. It is not fair for you to try to make me defend myself against a charge of misogyny when I have not given any reason for you to make it. I’ve never done anything like this to you, and I wouldn’t.
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You're a man telling feminists that they're doing it wrong and trying to get us to stop dealing with oppression the way we want. That's misogynistic.

You're tedious and argumentative. That's troll behavior.

Your posts speak for themselves.

Fibinachi
Fibinachi
9 years ago

I think it says a lot that someone considers minor snark at a name “abuse” but “complete silencing of anyone the moment they step out of line” a reasonable thing to do in a conversation or a comment section.

And that’s my final comment for the next few days, indeed.

(also: abuse implies systemetic and repeated behaviour, not singular instances of people being flippant or mean. At worst, the treatment in this thread has been “Dismissive” and “annoying” and “mean spirited”. Merely repeating “abuse abuse abuse” in every paragraph does not, alas, make it so)

Fibinachi
Fibinachi
9 years ago

( which obviously shouldn’t mean anyone should be mean spirited or dismissive! Be like penguins and shelter each other from the harsh arctic winds! )

Falconer
9 years ago

I would like to apologize for misgendering HTBS. Someone else said he identified as a woman and I took them at their word.

epitome of incomprehensibility

If I can interrupt here with a general observation, I’ve found the group here more on the side of welcoming than unwelcoming, even though there have been arguments that have made me avoid or retreat from particular threads.

Some things took me a while to get used to: first that it’s an unofficial faux-pas to comment on older posts (which makes sense – it’s just not what I’m used to) and second that I felt like a bit of an outsider on pop-culture topics, not knowing much about gaming for example.

On the good side, it was a relief to me that there isn’t a strict on-topic policy. Though I understand why such a thing can be good, keeping to the point isn’t my strong point. And I’ve learned a lot by the range of knowledge people have here.

You’ve opened this thread up for complaints and I’m not complaining. I’m such a rebel. HERE DAVID, HAVE MY MILD POSITIVITY! 🙂

Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

I’m going to second everything Fibbi just said.

And, not to add on to anything, but I’d like to get something off my chest referring to something HTBS said:

I think bigots should be banned the instant they reveal themselves as bigots. There is no reason to go through a ritual of abuse and humiliation first.

You know why I’ve changed a bit of the way I think and have become a better person? Because I went through a “ritual of abuse and humiliation” first, so to speak. (Though, to second Fibbi again, “abuse” isn’t singular instances of people being mean to you.)

When I did wrong here, I was called out, and those who did the calling out were not sparing me any mercy about it.

And you know what? I’m happy they didn’t, because it caused me to step the fuck back and go “Whoa, what did I do to deserve that?” I re-examined my behavior because of it, and sometimes someone who is expressing shitty views or doing something shitty needs an immediate, harsh reaction before they’ll step back and go “Wait, what am I doing wrong? Why am I getting this reaction?”

If we’re kind to those who are stepping on our tails, to call back to the Desmond Tutu quote, that only gives them leeway and implies that our position is one they can “disagree” with. It implies that what you’re doing isn’t that bad, and thus you can continue to do it, because it’s not that bad, so why bother changing?

While turning around and baring our teeth is something they cannot ignore, and there will be no room for “disagreement”.

Harsh? Undoubtedly. Necessary? Yes.

raysa
raysa
9 years ago

I enjoy this blog. I also enjoy the comments. I have learned a lot here about many different things, some of which I had no idea existed until reading here.

I have commented only twice, although I have been reading here for a few months. Each of those were one sentence.

I enjoy commenting on blogs and forums. I don’t get to go out much, and my socialization is limited to (usually) only my husband. So I really like interacting with people in places like this. There are a lot of places on the Internet that are friendly, open and welcoming.

Unfortunately, this blog does not seem to be that kind of place to me. But that doesn’t mean I don’t like it.

There does seem to be a small group of regular posters that kind of run in a clique (I use clique for lack of a better word). As an outsider, the group dynamic does not appear to be all that friendly. I may be interpreting it incorrectly. I’m not passing judgment, or complaining, I am only stating what it seems like to me. I would like to participate. Some of my hesitation comes from me, and my own feelings that I am still learning about a lot of things, and knowing that my own intellect is pretty limited. That is probably most of it.

But that is not all of it. Some of it comes directly from how I have observed newer posters being treated by the core group that has been here for a while.

Nevertheless, I still very much enjoy reading here, and I don’t plan on stopping any time soon, if ever.

kupo
kupo
9 years ago

I see where you’re coming from, raysa. I’m pretty much the same way, and the few times I’ve commented I haven’t had any replies, which kind of bums me out, but at the same time I don’t come here as regularly as I do the sites where I feel I’m at least on the fringes of the in crowd. Maybe one day people will start to recognize me, maybe not. But it’s still a fun place to visit. 🙂

contrapangloss
9 years ago

Just because it may be overlooked (or if on mobile, just not seen) I’d like to offer all the newbies, lurkers, and infrequent posters our Welcome Package!

The package also hides under the scented candle in the right sidebar… 🙂

The welcome package was the brainchild of a ‘currently in lurk mode/extended vacation/possibly permanent hiatus’ former regular, who thoughtfully put it together for us. There’s some good stuff there, some inside jokes, more information on ableism, that kind of stuffs and things. And some art. And kittens.

By the way, if anyone has seen Cloudiah recently, tell them I say hi and wish them well with life?

contrapangloss
9 years ago

Special hi’s to Kupo and Raysa, too…

I think I might have not been around when you alls made your first (well, second, because first goes in the mod queue and gets buried until David approves it, and by then it’s on a completely different page) comments, but hi!

I’m definitely prone to chatting with the folks I know, and not always noticing the new names as quickly as I ought.

kupo
kupo
9 years ago

Thanks, @contrapangloss! I did already help myself to the welcome package. 🙂 I’m well-versed in ableism already from tumblr though I often struggle to find replacements for words I’m used to using a lot. Plus I’m not so able myself in many ways, so I understand the reasoning behind it. 🙂 I was actually going to post my thoughts around dumb as a hard of hearing person at one point but decided the topic had already been beaten to death. 😉

cupisnique
cupisnique
9 years ago

Wow, I think it says a lot that HTBS has only been around for a relatively short time and in practically every one of their posts they felt the need to criticize our behaviour.

Not that I am too worried about this happening, but I for one would find this blog less enjoyable to read if we didn’t let the occasionally troll in. It’s really one of the main purposes of the blog to poke fun and tear holes in the rancid garbage they spew. Honestly, the only way to even delve into their particular hateful ideology is with a heavy dose of mockery and humour. Plus, I have to deal with misogyny on a daily basis where I often have to ignore it for fear of my personal safety, so having a safe space where I can tell a particularly hateful misogynist where they can shove their fucking opinions is quite cathartic.

And, I often find the introduction of a troll sparks some interesting conversation among the commenters here and I enjoy reading their take-downs because they are often very well-worded, thought-out, and say exactly what I’m thinking but a million times better. I find people are quick to apologize to anyone for accidentally presuming they were a troll, as well.

Alais
9 years ago

I don’t know how much more can be said about HTBS that hasn’t already been said. I mean, he showed up on the MGTOW thread and mocked David in a way that was indistinguishable from a post that an angry troll would make. Regular commenters and non-troll commenters who thought that the post was in poor taste or took issue with some other comments explained or their issues with it without calling David an involuntary MGTOW. Then, HTBS showed up to accuse people of trying to dox JB and refused to listen to explanations from people who kept saying that they weren’t going to search for her personal info or share any personal info that they might have with the public. Then everything that followed were criticisms of the way that David ran the comments section or the way that various commenters were acting. It really comes across as though he just wanted to argue and stir shit. If he actually wanted to mock misogyny, well, he could’ve mocked misogyny as well.

And welcome to the new commenters!

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
9 years ago

It is worth noting, for new commenters, that your first post 1) has to wait for approval and 2) then appears where you posted it in the thread, not where the thread has got to by the time you’ve been approved. If the thread’s moved on, and especially if it’s moved on by a whole page, your first comment is very likely to be lost because no one’s rereading the whole thread, just the most recent comments. It’s a slight mitigating factor for when people are ignored.

Belladonna993
Belladonna993
9 years ago

Ignored? I think you missed the part where I condemned Bloomfield’s video in even stronger terms than David did. I called it creepy and scary and I Can’t Even and more. And I meant it. My skin crawled. You are correct that I made an argument against calling the cops first, but it actually seemed kind of urgent.

I didn’t miss that part, Had To Be Said. It’s just that it seemed like it came so long after the other “she was just talking about defending herself” arguments that it felt like it might be a bit disingenuous. I’m not denying that you may have felt some sense of urgency, I’m just saying that at no point did you try to act like you “understood” the other side, until it seemed clear that your argument would fail if you didn’t concede some sort of horribleness about the video. You say, now, that you were sincere and that your skin crawled, but you still haven’t shown us enough of yourself for that not to be met with a bit of distrust.

I have very little doubt that many of those who have habitually abused me in this thread agree with my positions on most political and social issues. . . . I’m not going to beg. . . . Not that I’m saying you are asking me to. I don’t think you are.

You’re right that I’m not asking you to beg, but if you’re truly mostly aligned with the people in this thread and forum on political and social issues, why are you so opposed to showing it? Maybe your number one cause is that there should be more polite discourse on the Internet (which I’m not opposed to) but that seems awfully convenient since it came up in this blog after your initial posts. So why are you so determined to be argumentative all the time? It’s not called begging; it’s called “finding some common ground.”

Maybe you go onto your real number one cause site after being here and brag about how you kept us talking. If so, you deserve your gold medal. You are articulate and good at deflecting. I wish what you said were true and that you were mostly aligned with the “political and social issues” of the people on this thread. I’d like for that to be true of someone of your intelligence. I’d like for you to say a few honest-sounding things that make us believe it. But if it’s not true, and if you think it’s “begging” to ask you to show us that it’s true, please go back home, accept your medal there, and leave everyone here alone.

mildlymagnificent
9 years ago

As an outsider, the group dynamic does not appear to be all that friendly. I may be interpreting it incorrectly. I’m not passing judgment, or complaining, I am only stating what it seems like to me.

I think that’s because we’re not “balanced” or “even-handed” or moderate in any way. We’re all on the side of people, in fact we’re willingly and openly helpful towards many, who fit in. We’re like a ton of bricks on those who are bigoted, nasty or trolling. And there’s not a lot of in between.

And that’s part of what David herding this group of sharply clawed cats is all about. We’re ready at a moment’s notice to feed trolls till they burst. We’re also ready to protect the local “ethos” — against -isms of all kinds — at a moment’s notice.

otoh, newbies who aren’t trolls may take some time to find their feet. We are welcoming — and friendly and supportive — to people who aren’t trolls or bigots or who display other unacceptable behaviours and attitudes, including inappropriate language.

But that may be hard to pick up on when we’re in the middle of a trollsplosion or enraged by something David has posted.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
9 years ago

*waves a little flag that says “Go Fibi Go! Also, post more, we miss you!”*

(And welcome to all the new people!)

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
9 years ago

Really, a gif of someone trampling your avatar? Good thing you didn’t use your actual face or that might have come off as a threat.

Er… Dancing, dude. Dancing. Not trampling. I dance on trolls’ heads to annoy them without feeding them. It’s not a threat in any way, it’s just me being silly and giving people a laugh.

katz
9 years ago

Two other reasons your first-time post may not get replies:

First: We may not know it’s your first post unless you say so. IME posts that start with “long time reader, first time poster” or something like that are much more likely to get a welcome. If you jump right in without an introduction, I’ll assume you’ve posted before and I just don’t remember you because I have the memory of a goldfish. In other words, I’ll treat you like a regular. Which brings me to:

Second: THREADS HERE ARE REALLY LONG. One comment gets lost really easily. You know that it’s the first comment you’ve been really nervous about, but we just see one post in a 200-comment thread. Loads of those comments, even by regulars, don’t get replies. That’s just a factor of a messy, constantly evolving conversation.

But mainly it’s the first comment moderation, as people have said.

So please, don’t draw the conclusion that we hate new people just because nobody replied to your first comment, or even your first five comments. Just keep posting.

Auntie Alias
Auntie Alias
9 years ago
contrapangloss
9 years ago

… are we really on the hook to go back through comments to find ones that made it through moderation and say hi? Even if they’re back a few pages? Is this a bar we want to set for ourselves?

If it is, I’ll try to be better about noticing all the new faces and saying hi, instead of just saying hi en masse when I notice there are a bunch of new folks, or a new face posts a thread that I’m reading and happens to post something fun for discussion….

Benfromcanada dropped us a link in one of the other threads, that we’ve been discussing. He seems like a cool sort, and hopefully he got dropped a welcome package there! I think I dropped a couple today addressed to “all the new folks”.

Didn’t catch the second, but today’s been the first day in five that I’ve actually had sufficient quantities of time to dink around on the computer. The green kitty-face is a nice touch. Good incorporation into the furinatti hive-mind, there! 🙂

It took me a while to figure out the kitty avatar, thing, myself.

Thanks for the link! I’ll go post a welcome for them in the other thread, too, even though it’s pages away and they’ll probably miss it.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
9 years ago

Welcome, kupo and raysa and all others! Kupo, the points you raised above were excellent; I’d like to read more of your thinking.

I’ve been thinking about the points that were raised upthread. It seems to me that Had to be Said was right when he said that we have a two-tier commentariat with different privileges for the tiers. We have actual commenters, and we have the pre-banned. Within the first few posts it will normally be apparent which group one belongs to.

Is your first post hateful? If not, then you are a commenter. Welcome! Be at peace and be merry. Haul up an animated gif and make yourself at home. We tend to be extremely respectful to one another (seriously – this is one of the nicest and most caring commentariats I’ve ever seen) and there are lots of hugs and feels and laughs to be had.

Is your first post hateful? Then the chances are that you didn’t come here with good intentions, and David let you onto the site purely for the rest of us to sharpen our claws on. In effect such people are pre-banned – they’re selected from among those who would simply be blocked immediately on other blogs, and allowed to run free until they get boring, at which point the ban which was already waiting for them comes down.

Let us not mince words: this is a blood sport, and as a blood sport it may be unsuitable for many people’s temperament. I appreciate this. However, many of us also have to sit through our normal lives smiling and eating shit from such people, and so getting to let loose and wipe some smug misogynist’s smile off their face is an experience which can make it much easier to survive in our patriarchal world.

There are occasional situations where differences have emerged between good-faith posters. For the most part we react to these by saying “holy shit, back the fuck up” and stopping the discussion there and then. There was one about atheism a little while back where we discovered that there are fault lines that run through the community, and decided to back away from it. We do not wish to cause harsh feels to anyone who did not come here for that purpose.

So. If you are here to be hateful, you will find yourself among the pre-banned. If you are not here to be hateful – and if you’re in doubt, you’re probably not – then you will hopefully find us very warm and welcoming.

That’s the theory anyway. Sadly there are cases where we mis-identify people. Normally this is because their first few posts seem hateful and so we assume that David let them onto the site for us to use as chew toys, only to later discover that this is in fact not the case.

So, to cut a long teal dear short, is there a clique? I think there is. But you, dear reader, are already part of it. By being a feminist posting in good faith who wants the world to be a nicer place, you’re one of us. We have your back. You are among friends here.

Auntie Alias
Auntie Alias
9 years ago

@contrapangloss

I do read all the comments before posting on a topic and assumed that everyone else did most of the time. Maybe not?

Belladonna993
Belladonna993
9 years ago

… are we really on the hook to go back through comments to find ones that made it through moderation and say hi?

Speaking from the other side, as someone I think few people know, I think that’s an unreasonably high bar. And it might be just as damaging to greet someone as new over and over again because you didn’t remember them or whatever.

But I think, all that can be asked, really, is to try and read all the comments on a thread before posting. And we all have lives, and a lot goes on here, so I’m just kind of thinking that, in a world where everyone skims and doesn’t read a lot, we could all just try to hold ourselves to our best possible standard of ourselves here. And that’s all anyone can ask.

Maybe I’m speaking as a technical writer whose long become accustomed to the fact that no one will really read anything I write, but yeah, again, speaking as someone no one maybe remembers much . . .

Also, I think it’s hard for a lot of people to assume they’re in the “in” crowd and should be expected to greet someone because they’re a regular. I’ve commented a few times, so am I held to a standard where I should greet anybody I haven’t noticed before? I kind of wonder if expecting someone to notice they’re a “regular” and greet other people isn’t already presupposing a sort of clique. How can you have a “hospitality” department if you don’t have assigned members and officers?

contrapangloss
9 years ago

I usually go a few days between showing up, here, so I’ll usually read the article and the last page of comments, just to try and catch up to the flow of conversation.

But when some of these threads balloon up to five pages while I’m on shift, or David posts five articles while I’m doing the work-sleep-work-sleep cycle that is my summer job… I’d never be able to have conversations with folks here if I held myself to reading everything. I’d finally catch up just in time for my ‘weekend’ to be over, and go back to work-sleep-work-sleep.

I’m on my ‘weekend’ right now, so for the next day I’ll be able to actually catch most of the new stuff!