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MRA JudgyBitch: Give me money for a crossbow so I can shoot feminists in the face!

Janet Bloomfield — the slur-spewing A Voice for Men “social media director” better known as JudgyBitch — has launched a rather unique fundraiser on Patreon: In addition to funds to spend on better videomaking equipment, she’s asking her supporters to send her $800 for a crossbow so she can “shoot the feminists in the face.”

JB isn’t joking; she’s an avid bowhunter, and she has her crossbow all picked out. 

Of course JB claims that the weapon will only be used in self-defense, in case some angry feminist shows up at her door with an axe or something. But in the video above, posted to her Patreon page, she describes her fantasy of using it to maim or kill a feminist in detail, and with great relish.

She starts waxing poetic about what she calls the “angel of death crossbow” at 8:32 in the video above. Here are some of the highlights.

In this first clip, she describes what she would do to any “little brave feminist” who showed up at her door unarmed but seeking a confrontation.

The tl;dr? She would shoot them in the gut with her crossbow, dead center, in an attempt to sever their spine and leave them paralyzed. “You’re gonna drop,” she says, “and you’re never getting back up again.”

As for those who show up at her door with “a hammer, an axe, a knife, a gun” or other weapon, she promises to shoot them dead without warning. “I would love to do it with that beautiful angel of death crossbow,” she says, with a certain manic glee. “Let’s buy Janet a crossbow so she can shoot the feminists in the face!”

MRAs, male and female, seem to spend an awful lot of time and energy fantasizing about doing great harm to their opponents. But this is the first time I’ve seen one actually set up a Patreon fundraiser so they can buy a deadly weapon.

H/T — @TakedownMRAs 

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katz
9 years ago

Calling the police to report potential danger our criminal activity is not doxxing or harassment. It is being a responsible citizen.

Posting JB’s real name or address would be doxxing. No one has done that or encouraged it. Calling an emergency number and lying that a crime was being committed, calling her house, threatening her, ordering food delivered to her house with payment on delivery, and so on would be harassment. No one is doing that. Clear?

Everyone else: Would Frankenbowie improve this thread?

Ellesar
Ellesar
9 years ago

Had To Be Said – blimey that was a lot of effort, plucking out all those comments. Reporting to the police is not doxxing or harassment. It would be a judgement call based on what threat JB constitutes. Personally I do not believe she does, but she is doing nothing to contain these threats by dwelling on physical details such as paralysing a person, etc.

It would not be difficult to see her comment about self defence as purely a covering her arse move, just like when Elam talks about smashing a woman’s face in ‘in self defence’, dwelling on the bloody details in a salacious manner, clearly revelling in the sharing of such violence, as a response to WHAT threat exactly?

JB has NO reason to fear threats from feminists, but she pulls this Patreon move out of her arse, NOT because she is under ANY type of threat, simply because she is a person who enjoys using vile and inflammatory language.

Newt
Newt
9 years ago

The police do not exist to be used against people who disagree with you about feminism on the internet.

Why should being Wrong On The Internet provide immunity from the law?

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

What does gently entail exactly? I’ll go back and look to make sure, but I don’t recall anyone doing anything like name calling, This has never been a space where we have to make sure we conform to gender norms like submissiveness, I don’t want that to start now. This isn’t a social justice 101 site and it’s unfair to expect polite education on demand.

I also think in this specific thread, the exasperation was justified. Linax has done the ableist language before. Elaine was internet diagnosing based on her position as a mental health professional. Which is actually pretty unethical. Neither are newbies who don’t know any better and aren’t familiar with mental heath issues. What about either of those comments warranted gentleness? There are lots of times I think a simple “hey, we don’t do that here” is enough. This isn’t one of them.

Also, if we let some of the ableist comments slide and not others, instead of being accused of dogpiling everyone, we’ll be accused of playing favorites and having double standards. It seems like either way, we can’t win.

Hopefully the revised comment policy will help. If it counts down on arguments with people who want to double down, people will probably end up being gentler on the newbies who just made a mistake because we’re less likely to be fresh off a thread that turned into a clusterfuck.

I don’t think tone policing is the answer though.

Sorry if my thoughts are all jumbled here. It’s been a rough and stressful few days.

Had To Be Said
Had To Be Said
9 years ago

alternatesteve90,

Yes, unsettling. Disturbing. And I wouldn’t say she was “almost” relishing the fantasy, she was relishing it. I got the creeps. I can’t even. All that shit. Yes.

But our precious feelz being feeled don’t justify calling the fucking police. That’s crossing a line into real-world harassment.

I’m honestly far more creeped out by the blase attitude here about using the police against your ideological enemies than anything Bloomfield said. The worst thing she talked about doing (shooting an intruder) is clearly justified. Calling the police on an internet enemy to have them harassed is not in the least justified. It is wrong six ways from Sunday.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

Would Frankenbowie improve this thread?

Are you suggesting ihe wouldn’t?

[Pandapool Greatly Disapproves]

Hambeast, Social Justice Road Warrior
Hambeast, Social Justice Road Warrior
9 years ago

Rachel, I don’t talk about it because I love making every thread about myself. I actively don’t – I’m so cripplingly shy I couldn’t even bring myself to delurk for well over a year. Yes, finally having a place where I can talk about it without being called a monster is amazing, but I still take longer psyching myself up for such posts than I take typing them. Always will.

Thanks for doing that psyching up, SFHC; I always enjoy reading your posts!

I’ve never considered the personal discussions of mental illness derails. It’s sad that some posters feel compelled to tell stories they’d rather not tell (and retell, and retell…), but this is a community. Most of the stories here don’t actually lend themselves to lengthy discussion. It’s pretty rare for MRAs to surprise us at this point, and it’s not a bad thing when the thread for a post about Esmay saying dumb stuff on twitter evolves into a personal open thread. It’s usually those conversations that I learn the most from, and I think it’s that kind of personal bonding that makes reading here comforting and not harrowing.

Seconding Orion here; learning things about commenters here is generally welcome with me and not derailing. Just like posting random furrinati – it’s one of the many things I like about this place!

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

I mean, since when have we ever stayed on topic the whole time? I find it boring when the discussion turns to video games I don’t play. But I don’t go on long, pompous rants about off topic and boring it is. Because everyone doesn’t have to cater to my personal enjoyment all the time.

andiexist
andiexist
9 years ago
Reply to  reymohammed

@reymohammed

“Eggshell monarchs.” *Eggshell* monarchs. Seriously? And you’re calling us privileged, too? Yeah, we’re *totally* a sack of old white rich dudes. Totally. XD

Hambeast, Social Justice Road Warrior
Hambeast, Social Justice Road Warrior
9 years ago

I googled Frankenbowie and just got a YT vid of someone splitting wood blocks with a giant bowie knife.

What am I missing?

Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs | July 19, 2015 at 5:16 pm
Why is it a dogpile when two or three of us accidentally ninja eachother in pointing out an ableist comment, but not a dogpile when half a dozen lurkers and new posters pop out of the woodwork like the bloody Bat Signal went off to accuse us of dogpiling/accuse us of being a clique/tone-police us?

This.

I saw a couple of people come out and were talking about how they were “dogpiled”, and I have to admit, I’m side-eyeing it a bit, judging from what I know about this place, and having been corrected here myself. The only time I would consider myself “dogpiled” is in that recent MGTOW thread where I said that Minecraft wasn’t on the PS3, and I got like five to seven comments telling me it was. I understand that some people were ninja’d, however.

I feel like this is giving some assholes an out to claim we’re the bad guys here for asking them to not be shitty, and I’m not comfortable with that.

Had To Be Said | July 19, 2015 at 5:30 pm

No. I don’t think there’s a “warped perspective” here. JB is literally talking, with glee, about how she’d like to shoot feminists. She goes into graphic detail about how she’d like to shoot a feminist in the gut, severing their spine and paralyzing them.

She’s talking about causing irreversible harm to someone. That doesn’t sound dangerous to you? That doesn’t sound like something the police would be interested in to you?

Are we not supposed to talk about her violent behaviors at all? Are we just supposed to shrug our shoulders and just leave that be, because we “disagree” with her on the internet?

That’s violent behavior. This isn’t us going “Let’s call the police on someone who hasn’t done anything violent just to annoy them and possibly get them hurt!” This is us going “Can we please call the police because this person is acting dangerous. We don’t want her address, we don’t want her real name, we just want her violence to be curbed.”

She’s talking about shooting people. We are not, nor have we ever. Your false equivalence is false.

Shorter Had To Be Said: “I’m not an MRA, but you guys are obviously just as bad as they are for reporting obviously violent behavior to the police like this! Doxxing! Harassment! I don’t know what these words actually mean, but I’ve seen you use them, so they must be good to win arguments!”

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

If anyone was having doubts that Had to be Said was a troll, I think those doubts are over. Gods, are “I’m not an MRA but…” trolls boring.

sn0rkmaiden
9 years ago

@ Had to be said,

I think you’re cherry picking just a little here. For example the snippet you took from my comment where I pointed out that Janet Bloomfield is a pseudonym, you emboldened certain words to suggest I was hinting at doxxing. I wasn’t, I was pointing out that reporting Janet Bloomfield would be futile as that isn’t her name. I also said in the same comment that the police shouldn’t be called on her, as she isn’t a threat.

There’s no plan here to harass or swat JB, some people are getting worried and others are reassuring them. The plan is to report her to Patreon for breaking their T&C. Admittedly that is exactly what she wants us to do, but at the same time no way should that woman be abusing crowd funding sites to grub money to buy weapons.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

I’m in danger of being spammy right now, I know. But I just want to point out that self defense isn’t a license to do whatever violence you want. It only means you can use the force necessary to stop someone from hurting you.

She would shoot them in the gut with her crossbow, dead center, in an attempt to sever their spine and leave them paralyzed. “You’re gonna drop,” she says, “and you’re never getting back up again.

This level of planning and detail suggests premeditation.

Last year in my state, some teenagers had been breaking into this man’s house. So he laid a trap for them in the basement and pretended not to be home and waited for them to enter. He shot and killed one of them while she was already incapacitated. He was later convicted of first degree murder. I don’t know the laws of Ontario, but if they’re anything like the laws in Minnesota, you aren’t allowed to plan to murder a trespasser.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

I mean, since when have we ever stayed on topic the whole time? I find it boring when the discussion turns to video games I don’t play.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/picardwave.gif

Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

Had To Be Said | July 19, 2015 at 5:42 pm
alternatesteve90,

Yes, unsettling. Disturbing. And I wouldn’t say she was “almost” relishing the fantasy, she was relishing it. I got the creeps. I can’t even. All that shit. Yes.

So, you can see why we’re kind of freaked out by this, considering she works for a site that consistantly advocates for violence against women?

But our precious feelz being feeled don’t justify calling the fucking police. That’s crossing a line into real-world harassment.

So close, and yet so far.

Look, this isn’t someone joking about shooting someone on their property. This is someone gleefully talking about shooting someone who is fucking unarmed and going into gory detail about how she’d paralyze them from the waist down and enjoy it.

This isn’t just her talking about “self-defense”, this is her going into a fantasy about possibly killing someone and couching it in the talk of “self-defense”. She has no chance of this straw-feminist showing up at her door. She knows that, we know that.

And yet, she’s getting giddy at the thought of it happening. Tell me that’s a “normal” way to handle self-defense.

Someone earlier made the point that when you train for self-defense, either CQC, or with a weapon, it is instilled in you that you shouldn’t want to use it. You shouldn’t want to come across a guy who is trying to beat you up, or someone breaking into your house.

Self-defense isn’t happy happy fun time. It’s fucking self-defense. A last resort.

I’m willing to bet cash money that if this hypothetical situation ever did happen, JB would be convicted of murder because one, the feminist was unarmed, and two, JB works for a site with a history of condoning violence against women.

Honestly? I’d rather see her patreon get shut down and her get reprimanded by the police than see her get arrested for killing someone.

I’m honestly far more creeped out by the blase attitude here about using the police against your ideological enemies than anything Bloomfield said. The worst thing she talked about doing (shooting an intruder) is clearly justified. Calling the police on an internet enemy to have them harassed is not in the least justified. It is wrong six ways from Sunday.

“How dare you call the police on someone who’s bragging about shooting feminists and is trying to publicly raise money for a crossbow they don’t need so they can shoot feminists! You’re just as bad as they are!”

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
9 years ago

I have no idea if it’s possible to do this on WordPress, but I know some comment sections have anti-spam barriers where you have to fill in a captcha or answer a basic math question before your comment can be posted. I don’t suppose there’s any way to redirect first-time commenters to the comments policy before their first post can go up.

That being said, when the new policy does show up, I would recommend making the link to it blingier. Right now you only see it if you’re looking for it, which clearly isn’t working.

katz
9 years ago

Frankenbowie. (Hambeast: I mentioned that I was drawing this picture earlier in the thread.)

http://pre05.deviantart.net/1691/th/pre/i/2015/200/7/1/frankenbowie_by_gckatz-d91yleq.png

dudeinthewoods
9 years ago

@wierwoodtreehugger

The Crown will look at this as evidence of premeditation if something happened, thank you I couldn’t get that bit out. Self defence is not as it is in the U.S. I’m in Manitoba but the law is pretty much the same across Canada, crime is mostly handled at the Federal level. We have no right to self defence as Had To Be Said seems to have imagined, the Crown is going to want to know why you didn’t retreat (no castle doctrine) and then they’ll bring up appropriate force, etc.

Man traps are also illegal.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

@katz

[Pandapool Greatly Approves]

DEEDOG91
DEEDOG91
9 years ago

Is there any way to see how much JB has raised on this? I’ve never used that site and the layout is unintelligible on my smashed screen unfortunately.

Also Hi….very long time lurker, first time commenter. I can see the benefits, but am glad I didn’t have to do a quiz to post. Ha.

Cyberwulf
Cyberwulf
9 years ago

@Had To Be Said: Hi, JudgyBitch!

JB’s scorn for people who call the police as a response to harassment is a real hallmark of a bully. “Ooh you have to run and tell teacher on me? Why don’t you meet me at the flagpole after school, you wuss?”

She’s not afraid of anyone coming to her house. She wouldn’t attach her real face to her Patreon if she was. And in addition to it being really, really stupid to describe how you’d murder someone in lurid detail and then beg for money to buy the murder weapon, she’s also alerted everyone that she has lots of valuable weapons in her house. They’ll be going bye-bye if any burglars see that video. And god forbid someone really *was* out to murder her – now they’ll know not to come to her house, but to attack her when she’s out and about without her bow. Very very silly of you, Janet.

John Pavlich (@johnpavlich)

I think what’s being missed here by Had To Be Said and the like, is that JB isn’t simply talking about “shooting an intruder”. She specifically says she wants to “paralyze a feminist who comes to her door, unarmed and looking for confrontation.” That’s the exact opposite of shooting an intruder.

This hypothetical, “brave little feminist” (who by the way, could just as easily be a guy. I get the impression JB is specifically targeting only women) might knock on her door and look to have some angry words to throw her way. On the off chance that someone would actually do that, all JB would need to do is ask them to leave, call the police to have them removed (should the first part fail) or just not even answer the fucking door in the first place. Instead of exploring all of those passive and civilized, grown-up avenues, JB would rather (with salivating glee) immediately jump to physically paralyzing someone (and potentially killing them, as those kinds of wounds can be fatal) as her first, last and only resort.

Had To Be Said thinks it’s crossing a line to “call the police on someone who disagrees with you” and yet, has no problem with injuring and possibly killing someone who disagrees with JB? If I may quote a line from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, “Your logic does not resemble our Earth logic”.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
9 years ago

As I may have mentioned use of force, including self defence, is a particular interest of mine both personally and professionally. FWIW here’s a link to some notes on the subject. These are compiled from something where people could ask questions, so they’re a bit in the Socractic method; should make sense though. Also these were mainly aimed at civilian rather than professional users of force; although the principles are the same.

They’re pretty tried and tested; kept a lot of people out of prison with these:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B55TSEUu1Sn2czZUTzF0OGZRVWs/view?usp=sharing

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