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Is revenge porn the fault of feminism? Return of Kings douchebags say “yes.”

On Return of Kings, anyway.
On Return of Kings, anyway.

Well, you have to admire their ingenuity, I guess: The terrible people at the lady-hating megasite Return of Kings have figured out a way to blame feminism for … revenge porn.

No, really. Here’s the argument, such as it is, from regular RoK contributor Mark Webster:

What we are seeing with so called ”revenge porn” is an example of the disturbing but inevitable consequences of the first generation of women who, brainwashed by feminist propaganda, truly believe they can do no wrong, and that there are no consequences for their actions. … 

Like so many other modern social problems, feminism is definitely to blame for “revenge porn.” This warped ideology has always irresponsibly promoted the delusional idea that women have all the same rights as men, but without responsibilities or consequences for their actions.

They were the ones who encouraged a life of reckless hedonism and narcissism for young women, with no thought for their futures. They were the ones who spun the gross lie that being pumped and dumped by men who couldn’t care less about them is “empowering.”

Webster pauses for a moment to reflect on the possible culpability of the ex-boyfriends who, you know, actually posted these pictures online as a form of petty revenge, but figures that, since the women chose to go out with these guys, it’s really still the women’s fault anyway.

Now admittedly putting them on the web for the whole world to see is a pretty low act, but they don’t call them bad boys for nothing. You can bet your bottom dollar these are the guys who are far more likely to receive and distribute “sexts” than the nice guys forever languishing in the friend zone.

Lovely.

Webster is right about one thing, though: the proliferation of revenge porn is very definitely related to the issue of consequences. That is, the almost complete lack of consequences faced by the dirtball guys who post these sometimes stolen, sometimes gifted pics online without permission.

But that has started to change. Let’s hope the 18-year-sentence meted out to revenge porn kingpin Kevin Bollaert — who combined internet-age skeeviness with some old-fashioned extortion — is a sign of things to come.

The readers of RoK have some rather different ideas about possible “solutions” to revenge porn.

(If you’re having a decent day, or would simply rather not read puerile fantasies about domestic violence and suicide, you may just want to stop reading here.)

As Black Poison Soul sees it, any woman who takes nude pics of herself should face these “consequences.”

1/ tattoo the word “slut” on her face
2/ put her into the local sluttery (aka free whorehouse)
3/ problem solved

Plus it semi-forces the red pill down men’s throats. I would think it’s hard to validate some whore when you constantly see “slut” every time you look at her face. Even if you’re a blue-pill white-knighting mangina enabler.

Remember. There is always a loser in the game of musical cocks.

Idonggor thinks the problem would be solved if American men were more willing to, well, punch “their” women.

As much as I dislike feminist bull dykes and other self entitled cunts, I also equally blame American men for acting like faggots. I hear many times even from so called “red pill” men that hitting women is wrong.

With that kind of mentality, you are bound to get a chick who will act out of her line.

In the Middle East and certain parts of Russia (where it is ruled by ALPHA MEN), girls would not dare to act like spoiled Americunts. Why?

Because they are scared of their men.

You need to get your women to be scared of you guys…. Have her fear you.

I used to feel sorry for American men for getting all the shit but you guys pretty much deserve it.

If you act like coward faggots, you are doomed to get your women acting like cunts.

BlueSkyGreyWolf, meanwhile, suggests that women who have their pics posted on the internet without their permission just kill themselves.

If the stupid cunts are so guilt ridden ain’t nothing stopping them from killing themselves. In fact, the more worthless female parasites who off themselves, the better off the woorld will be.

Something must be terribly wrong with the “red pills” these guys are taking; they seem to be turning everyone who pops one into literally the worst human beings on planet Earth.

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Robert
Robert
5 years ago

To paraphrase Twain, “Suppose you were the absolute scum of the Earth. And suppose you wrote for Return of Kings.
But I repeat myself.”

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

The Catholic church and most other traditional religions frown on sex tapes. Therefore, the regulars of this site are still operating within a flawed paradigm, even if you are on balance certainly more moral than the PUAs. Sex should be confined to marriage; if that were so, there would not be some of these problems. As the oddly insiteful poetess of the hippy debacle, Janis Joplin, sagely sung “Freedom is another word for nothing left to lose.” (BTW isn’t it suspicious that she died right before criticizing Vatican II? Documentation on that will be out soon).

Fuck off.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
5 years ago

When struck by inspiration in a bar without pen and ink, French poet Arthur Rimbaud was occasionally known to crap his pants, pull the shit out of his pants with one hand, and use that to write down what was running through his mind.

These people appear to have the same writing methods, except that they aren’t revolutionizing French poetry.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Stranded in Babylon
“The Catholic church and most other traditional religions frown on sex tapes. Therefore, the regulars of this site are still operating within a flawed paradigm, even if you are on balance certainly more moral than the PUAs. Sex should be confined to marriage; if that were so, there would not be some of these problems. As the oddly insiteful poetess of the hippy debacle, Janis Joplin, sagely sung “Freedom is another word for nothing left to lose.” (BTW isn’t it suspicious that she died right before criticizing Vatican II? Documentation on that will be out soon).”

Seconding Bina
And 1) I’m a Christian I don’t shove my beliefs down people’s throats “don’t have sex before marriage herp derp!” That’s not what religious people should be doing ESPESICALLY blaming them for their misfortune by other people who did the terrible things to them.
2) even if people do get married you don’t think that abuse, rape, etc ever exists in marriages? And 3) again seconding Bina and anything else that I missed that people here can explain to you and cuss you out.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

@Rabid Rabbit

…What.

katz
5 years ago

(BTW isn’t it suspicious that she died right before criticizing Vatican II? Documentation on that will be out soon).

What bizarro conspiracy theory is this?

Stranded in Babylon
Stranded in Babylon
5 years ago

Yes abuse does exist in marriage and I do not condone that.
Janis did not get to criticize the Vatican; she was about to though.

I cannot let the insult to anti-feminist women go. They are beautiful and noble and they are being persecuted by the powers that be. Dozens of women are being sued for not baking a cake for gay couples and for having unpopular cultural views. How is that compatible with feminism? Also look up Lila Rose please. I know it’s bigotry but that’s human rights. Cultural Marxists try to massage these issues with intersectionality, but really third wave feminism is contradictory worldview because it requires the freedom of some women to be curtailed and for women to be shamed just for exercising their beliefs. Oh and Rimbaud was a troglodyte of significant magnitude. Read Hildegarde von Bingen and Therese of Lissieu instead please.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

I cannot let the insult to anti-feminist women go. They are beautiful and noble and they are being persecuted by the powers that be. Dozens of women are being sued for not baking a cake for gay couples and for having unpopular cultural views. How is that compatible with feminism?

Feminism is not the belief that by virtue of being a woman, you should go uncriticized. So no, somebody does not get a free pass to discriminate just because she’s female.

“Tolerate my intolerance, or you libruls are hypocrites!” has got to be the laziest, stupidest and most annoying of all the popular right wing talking points.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Stranded in Babylon
How is that feminism’s fault? If those women are not doing their job then yes they should get sued or fired. How do you think gay people feel? They’re being shamed all the time and oh boo hoo the poor bigots are being shamed, forget gay people being bullied, told they’re going to hell, disowned by their families to fend for themselves out in the world, treated less than, etc nope it’s just “human rights” and it’s the people who talks trash and treats them like trash are the real victims.

Give me a break. I don’t know about you but my bible told me to love people and also told me that God loves everyone too.

One more thing, feminism is about rights and to be treated like people not “you’re a woman you get to do or say whatever you want.” If you do or say something wrong you should be called out for it.

Stranded in Babylon
Stranded in Babylon
5 years ago

It may be annoying, but its logic is impeccable and unassailable. If we are to force cultural Marxism on women who do not wish for it, they will have no choice to conclude that they were victimized by feminism. There are also many gays accused of racism and racial minorities accused of homophobia, including many women in both categories. Prety much anyone of any category is going to do something offensive to some group at some point. To get back on topic, revenge porn is one crime that is mostly male, and I oppose it, but that doesn’t take away from the anemic worldview of this site.

Stranded in Babylon
Stranded in Babylon
5 years ago

Fruit, Jesus told people to go forth and sin no more. He did not give people license to act against natural law.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Stranded in Babylon
Again, how is this feminism’s fault? There have been bad people from all sides and have used the minority cards since the beginning of civilazation before feminism. And 2) how is making fun of misognist and other bigotries an “anemic worldview”?

Viscaria
Viscaria
5 years ago

I’d love to get a straight up definition of Cultural Marxism one of these days. Is that the term for women making decisions about their own lives without male permission?

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Stranded in Babylon | July 7, 2015 at 12:37 am
I cannot let the insult to anti-feminist women go. They are beautiful and noble and they are being persecuted by the powers that be.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Holy shit, you’re not serious are you? Anti-feminist women? Noble for hurting other women and treating them like shit for the approval of MRAs? Being persecuted? Really? By who? Who are these “powers that be”? I assure you, they’re not us.

Dozens of women are being sued for not baking a cake for gay couples and for having unpopular cultural views. How is that compatible with feminism?

Because some of us are gay? And some of us are intersectional, and thus not homophobic bigots? Because feminism doesn’t condone bigotry, no matter it’s form?

I think the better question is: Why do you think feminists would or should fucking defend a woman who is being homophobic as fuck solely because she’s a woman?

Where do you MRAs get the idea that to feminists “woman = untouchable angel and paragon of righteousness”? Women are NOT above reproach. That’s something feminists are also trying to fix. Women are human, we are people, and we are fallible just like everyone else.

Women are capable of being homophobic, racist, sexist (against other women), transphobic etc. And they should be called out for it when they are.

Also look up Lila Rose please. I know it’s bigotry but that’s human rights.

What the fuck does a pro-life advocate have to do with anything you were just saying? Should we suddenly stand up for Lila Rose because woman?

I think most of us here are pro-choice, FYI. Because, you know, every woman should have the choice to do what she wants/needs to with her body.

That, and for me personally, pro-life people don’t seem to give a shit about the baby after it’s born, or the life of the mother who is giving birth to it.

Cultural Marxists try to massage these issues with intersectionality, but really third wave feminism is contradictory worldview because it requires the freedom of some women to be curtailed and for women to be shamed just for exercising their beliefs.

Beliefs should be shamed when they harm others or impose toxic world views upon other people. I don’t care if you don’t like same sex marriage, but same sex couples deserve to get married, regardless of your beliefs.

Beliefs that hurt others should be shamed. Especially those that have body counts like the idea of “queer is evil”.

You can say “I don’t agree with __________” all you want, but at the end of the day, if that belief is being used to keep others from their right to pursuit of happiness, or keeping them from having the same rights as another, more privileged, group, then all bets are off.

Oh and Rimbaud was a troglodyte of significant magnitude. Read Hildegarde von Bingen and Therese of Lissieu instead please.

Fuck you, we’ll read what we want. You’re not my teacher, nor are you my parent.

The day I accept book recs from an MRA (Especially when they call someone a “troglodyte”, you rude, condescending fuck.) is the day I turn in my feminism badge.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Stranded in Babylon | July 7, 2015 at 1:03 am
It may be annoying, but its logic is impeccable and unassailable. If we are to force cultural Marxism on women who do not wish for it, they will have no choice to conclude that they were victimized by feminism.

What, people won’t be able to hate on gay people or racial minorities anymore and that’s them being “victimized”? Excuse me for not wanting people to treat me like shit, and telling people they have no right to do so.

Don’t try to turn this around and say that those women are somehow “victims” because we took away their “right” to be bigots.

There are also many gays accused of racism and racial minorities accused of homophobia, including many women in both categories. Prety much anyone of any category is going to do something offensive to some group at some point.

So, we should allow everyone to be assholes to everyone else and no one should be fighting for any rights at all.

It’s glaringly obvious how white, straight, cisgendered and male you are.

To get back on topic, revenge porn is one crime that is mostly male, and I oppose it, but that doesn’t take away from the anemic worldview of this site.

It’s a crime that mostly men commit, yes.

And what is the “anemic worldview” of this site? That revenge porn is bad? I thought you agreed with that?

Stranded in Babylon | July 7, 2015 at 1:05 am
Fruit, Jesus told people to go forth and sin no more. He did not give people license to act against natural law.

What “natural law” are you talking about?

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Stranded in Babylon
“Fruit, Jesus told people to go forth and sin no more. He did not give people license to act against natural law.”

And he also didn’t try to shove his beliefs down people’s throats and make them feel bad. He lets people choose and let it be. And he certainly doesn’t blame people for other people’s actions with all that “virgin until marriage or this revenge porn wouldn’t had existed in the first place” you’re no Christian or whatever you are now go read bina’s comment and do as she says.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Fruit, Jesus told people to go forth and sin no more. He did not give people license to act against natural law.

As an atheist, I can’t speak to what Jesus wants and I don’t really care to.

But, I take exception to this “natural law” business. Humans are not the only animal in which homosexual activity occurs. The argument that it’s against nature is just ridiculous.
http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/1500-animal-species-practice-homosexuality.aspx

This is pretty basic stuff. Don’t you remember those famous gay zoo penguins?

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

“You’re no good Christian” fixed it.

estraven
estraven
5 years ago

Here’s the thing, Stranded in Babylon. Nobody has to live by YOUR religious beliefs, at least at this time in the USA. I don’t give a flying fuck what the Catholic church or other religions have to say about sex tapes or anything else, because I’m not a believer. I do, however, care about women being victimized. As for “natural law,” I call bullshit. A lot of behaviors now thought criminal, including slavery, were once considered “natural law.” And your “impeccable and unassailable” so-called “logic” is anything but.

Kakanian
Kakanian
5 years ago

I’m pretty certain that the Thora does not contain concepts of natural law, so it’s natural to assume that Jesus Christ didn’t have much to say about theories and concepts developed by heathen philosophers in the first place.

Spindrift
Spindrift
5 years ago

If you refuse to bake a cake for a homosexual wedding on religious grounds as a christian, why not refuse to bake any large cake on religious grounds cause gluttony is a sin?
Or refuse to during lent or because they’re serving shellfish at the wedding or whatever? Too often religion is used as an excuse to act out people’s bigotry, if the only time you’re strongly observant of faith is when you’re denying others their rights or refusing to treat them as equals then your “faith” is nothing but a weapon of oppression.

Spindrift
Spindrift
5 years ago

But, I take exception to this “natural law” business. Humans are not the only animal in which homosexual activity occurs. The argument that it’s against nature is just ridiculous.

But don’t you see, animals in nature don’t get gay married, they only get straight married…/s

Mongoose
Mongoose
5 years ago

How do you submit something to David? I would love to see him tear this apart:
http://m.mensxp.com/special-features/today/26657-10-real-reasons-why-men-dont-trust-women-anymore.html

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

I find that this charming little graphic sums up the mindset of those who think Cultural Marxism is a thing pretty well.

I’ll attempt to make it link and not embed because it’s gross but my computer skills are lacking, so fingers crossed!

Tessa
5 years ago

Wow, OK:

The Catholic church and most other traditional religions frown on sex tapes. Therefore, the regulars of this site are still operating within a flawed paradigm, even if you are on balance certainly more moral than the PUAs. Sex should be confined to marriage; if that were so, there would not be some of these problems.

Why should sex be confined to marriage? What is the moral reasoning for that? Simply because some religions say so? You’re basing morality on authority rather than any sort of actual morality. That’s pretty messed up. You sound like one of those people who say that if they suddenly found out there was no god, they’d totally start committing murder because there’d be no punishment in Hell. It isn’t based on any actual respect for other people’s humanity and right to live, just fear of punishment after death, and that makes them freaking evil.

Dozens of women are being sued for not baking a cake for gay couples and for having unpopular cultural views. How is that compatible with feminism? Also look up Lila Rose please. I know it’s bigotry but that’s human rights.

It’s compatible with feminism because it has nothing to do with feminism? Feminism doesn’t mean all women are awesome, it means women shouldn’t be oppressed based on their gender. Individual women are still capable of being horrible people… But it has nothing to do with their gender. You really don’t seem to understand feminism at all… Or morality.

Anyway, “they are being sued for not baking a cake for gay couples.” Ha. Way to boil it down to meaninglessness. As if people randomly walked up and demanded cake! CAKE NOW! No, it’s a business, and they are discriminating against customers based on the genders of the couple. I guess you’d be fine with a sign that said “whites only” too because hey it’s human rights! I’m sure they can come up with sinceeeeere religious reasons not to serve anybody but white people.

Tessa
5 years ago

*sniffle* The blockquote mammoth got me 🙁 Trying again… Can the old one be deleted?
Stranded in Babylon:

The Catholic church and most other traditional religions frown on sex tapes. Therefore, the regulars of this site are still operating within a flawed paradigm, even if you are on balance certainly more moral than the PUAs. Sex should be confined to marriage; if that were so, there would not be some of these problems.

Why should sex be confined to marriage? What is the moral reasoning for that? Simply because some religions say so? You’re basing morality on authority rather than any sort of actual morality. That’s pretty messed up. You sound like one of those people who say that if they suddenly found out there was no god, they’d totally start committing murder because there’d be no punishment in Hell. It isn’t based on any actual respect for other people’s humanity and right to live, just fear of punishment after death, and that makes them freaking evil.

Dozens of women are being sued for not baking a cake for gay couples and for having unpopular cultural views. How is that compatible with feminism? Also look up Lila Rose please. I know it’s bigotry but that’s human rights.

It’s compatible with feminism because it has nothing to do with feminism? Feminism doesn’t mean all women are awesome, it means women shouldn’t be oppressed based on their gender. Individual women are still capable of being horrible people… But it has nothing to do with their gender. You really don’t seem to understand feminism at all… Or morality.

Anyway, “they are being sued for not baking a cake for gay couples.” Ha. Way to boil it down to meaninglessness. As if people randomly walked up and demanded cake! CAKE NOW! No, it’s a business, and they are discriminating against customers based on the genders of the couple. I guess you’d be fine with a sign that said “whites only” too because hey it’s human rights! I’m sure they can come up with sinceeeeere religious reasons not to serve anybody but white people.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

http://www.lindaandlee.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Dog-and-Cat.jpg
Gay people and now animals!? When will the happiness and love ever end!? /massive sarcasm

girlscientist
girlscientist
5 years ago

@Stranded in Babylon:
As an avid baker, I find it extremely petty that these women should refuse people cake because they’re gay. When Christ multiplied bread and fish, did he say “but don’t give it to the gay?” At Canaan, did he say “all right, I’ll turn your water into wine, but I don’t want gay guests to drink it because they’re icky?” Did he interrogate all of Larazus’s acquaintances to make sure he’d never looked at another man with excessive admiration before raising him from the dead? Because that is not in my Bible.

I know that you’re trying to go for “these poor women didn’t give in to the gays’ demands for cake and now they’re getting suuuued! This is like St Blandine and St Catherine all over again!” But the only thing you’re achieving is exposing how extremely petty these anti-feminists really are.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
5 years ago

@Pandapool,

Look, he was both out of his mind on absinth and a rebellious teenager. These things happen.

@Stranded in Babylon,

I’m very sorry you’re stranded. However, until you find someone to give you a lift, may I suggest you check out the gardens? They’re pretty spectacular and a lovely place for a walk.

Or actually, perhaps you should go to Babylon in the present day. There’s a lovely group of people there who seem to share most of your beliefs, though I’d be careful not to mention the whole “Christian” part if I were you.

And yes, Rimbaud was an odious little shit (and I’m not just talking about his writing methods), and the only question about Verlain shooting him is why it took him so long. But even if you don’t like his poetry, which I don’t actually much, many people have enjoyed it, and it is one of the foundations of all 20th century French poetry, which even more people have enjoyed and which simply by existing has improved countless lives, if only by giving them a moment or two of pleasure, or by causing them to think. Which means that even Rimbaud’s shittiest poem has done more for the human race at large than anything or for that matter everything any of your ilk has ever or I daresay will ever write, or say, or do.

You are, of course, welcome to disagree. You are also welcome to shake Rimbaud’s hand.

I, meanwhile, am free to read Rimbaud while listening to Hildegard von Bingen’s music. And if I am feeling kind, I may take a nanosecond to pity you for how you limit yourself.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

Look, he was both out of his mind on absinth and a rebellious teenager. These things happen.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/krvs.gif

…No. No it doesn’t.

katz
katz
5 years ago

Stranded in Babylon: If someone asks you to bake a cake for a gay wedding, bake for them two.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

And I know that even Jesus hung out with the guy who was gonna to betray him, gave the soldier back his ear and healed him when one of his friends cut it off and when he was dying on the cross while the people were mocking him he didn’t yell at them that he was son of God or they were going to hell he looked at God and cried: “forgive them father” AND one (or both) of the men who were dying along side of him asked “will you remember me?” Meaning that he believed in Jesus and asked for forgiveness Jesus replied “I will remember you” all in all Jesus and God are pretty awesome people. They don’t want revenge but want salvation and love.

gilshalos
5 years ago

Hildegard von Bingen composed some wonderful music

Stranded in Babylon
Stranded in Babylon
5 years ago

Morality does not exist for animals so their sexuality does not matter. God created humanity as superior to all other life forms; that’s why Satan got jealous and tempted Adam.
Yes I forgot to write my pro-life comment about Lila Rose and note that half of all fetuses murdered are female. Robert Kennedy realized this in 1968 and shortly after his life ended.
Same with Thomas Merton.
Anyway, I oppose racial segregation laws, but sexual orientation has absolutely no relation to race. It’s Africa where some of the worst anti-gay laws are. The feverish drive to drive out intolerance is going to drive unsophisticated conservatives in the arms of the racist. We should all stand together to avoid this social irresponsibility.
Anyway read new documentation to be coming out…Mozart predicted gay marriage and abortion rights just before his death and warned us against it.

Stranded in Babylon
Stranded in Babylon
5 years ago

I realize that Fruit and I do forgive you all. I hang out with all sorts of immoral people in my life and none of them would ever know my true opinion. But I was overcome by the Holy Spirit to drop truth here.

katz
katz
5 years ago

Mozart predicted gay marriage and abortion rights just before his death and warned us against it.

Was he also the one who told you about Janis Joplin?

Seriously, forget the boring conservative talking points. I want to hear more about how you predicted what a dead person would have done next.

Stranded in Babylon
Stranded in Babylon
5 years ago

Mozart wrote codes in the Requiem; it’s also encoded in the novels of Jane Austen and poetry of William Blake.

Stranded in Babylon
Stranded in Babylon
5 years ago

Alexander Hamilton fought the duel with Aaron Burr over the issue of abortion because Aaron Burr was pro-choice. His gun was tampered with by freemasons. Alexander Hamilton also predicted revenge porn and warned against it. and Aaron Burr said he would probably be an MRA if that ever exists (I’m not one BTW).

katz
katz
5 years ago

Mozart wrote codes in the Requiem; it’s also encoded in the novels of Jane Austen and poetry of William Blake.

Oh my god, PLEASE tell me more about this. I’m not being sarcastic.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Katz
That was beautiful, thanks for sharing and applause for the one who wrote that.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago
rookinthegarret
rookinthegarret
5 years ago

William Blake?

I went to the Garden of Love,
And saw what I never had seen:
A Chapel was built in the midst,
Where I used to play on the green.

And the gates of this Chapel were shut,
And “Thou shalt not” writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love,
That so many sweet flowers bore;

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And Priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briers my joys and desires.

katz
katz
5 years ago

Alexander Hamilton fought the duel with Aaron Burr over the issue of abortion because Aaron Burr was pro-choice. His gun was tampered with by freemasons.

You…you have to be joking at this point, right? I mean, you must be hitting the “random article” button on Wikipedia and plugging in a conservative talking-point-or-conspiracy-theory chosen by spinning a wheel, right? “Alexander Hamilton and…*spin spin spin*…Abortion!”

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Stranded,
Serious question. Are you my uncle Rick?

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

@katz

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/bust.gif

Please, for the love of Mythal, I HOPE to the GODS they’re completely serious because hopefully they’ll post links and rant about the proof.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

I will stay up all night for the proof, for real.