Well, you have to admire their ingenuity, I guess: The terrible people at the lady-hating megasite Return of Kings have figured out a way to blame feminism for … revenge porn.
No, really. Here’s the argument, such as it is, from regular RoK contributor Mark Webster:
What we are seeing with so called ”revenge porn” is an example of the disturbing but inevitable consequences of the first generation of women who, brainwashed by feminist propaganda, truly believe they can do no wrong, and that there are no consequences for their actions. …
Like so many other modern social problems, feminism is definitely to blame for “revenge porn.” This warped ideology has always irresponsibly promoted the delusional idea that women have all the same rights as men, but without responsibilities or consequences for their actions.
They were the ones who encouraged a life of reckless hedonism and narcissism for young women, with no thought for their futures. They were the ones who spun the gross lie that being pumped and dumped by men who couldn’t care less about them is “empowering.”
Webster pauses for a moment to reflect on the possible culpability of the ex-boyfriends who, you know, actually posted these pictures online as a form of petty revenge, but figures that, since the women chose to go out with these guys, it’s really still the women’s fault anyway.
Now admittedly putting them on the web for the whole world to see is a pretty low act, but they don’t call them bad boys for nothing. You can bet your bottom dollar these are the guys who are far more likely to receive and distribute “sexts” than the nice guys forever languishing in the friend zone.
Lovely.
Webster is right about one thing, though: the proliferation of revenge porn is very definitely related to the issue of consequences. That is, the almost complete lack of consequences faced by the dirtball guys who post these sometimes stolen, sometimes gifted pics online without permission.
But that has started to change. Let’s hope the 18-year-sentence meted out to revenge porn kingpin Kevin Bollaert — who combined internet-age skeeviness with some old-fashioned extortion — is a sign of things to come.
The readers of RoK have some rather different ideas about possible “solutions” to revenge porn.
(If you’re having a decent day, or would simply rather not read puerile fantasies about domestic violence and suicide, you may just want to stop reading here.)
As Black Poison Soul sees it, any woman who takes nude pics of herself should face these “consequences.”
1/ tattoo the word “slut” on her face
2/ put her into the local sluttery (aka free whorehouse)
3/ problem solvedPlus it semi-forces the red pill down men’s throats. I would think it’s hard to validate some whore when you constantly see “slut” every time you look at her face. Even if you’re a blue-pill white-knighting mangina enabler.
Remember. There is always a loser in the game of musical cocks.
Idonggor thinks the problem would be solved if American men were more willing to, well, punch “their” women.
As much as I dislike feminist bull dykes and other self entitled cunts, I also equally blame American men for acting like faggots. I hear many times even from so called “red pill” men that hitting women is wrong.
With that kind of mentality, you are bound to get a chick who will act out of her line.
In the Middle East and certain parts of Russia (where it is ruled by ALPHA MEN), girls would not dare to act like spoiled Americunts. Why?
Because they are scared of their men.
You need to get your women to be scared of you guys…. Have her fear you.
I used to feel sorry for American men for getting all the shit but you guys pretty much deserve it.
If you act like coward faggots, you are doomed to get your women acting like cunts.
BlueSkyGreyWolf, meanwhile, suggests that women who have their pics posted on the internet without their permission just kill themselves.
If the stupid cunts are so guilt ridden ain’t nothing stopping them from killing themselves. In fact, the more worthless female parasites who off themselves, the better off the woorld will be.
Something must be terribly wrong with the “red pills” these guys are taking; they seem to be turning everyone who pops one into literally the worst human beings on planet Earth.
@Falconer
Actually I’m inclined to chalk it up to a rush job. There are several unfinished bits in BG2 that people have turned up. The Twisted Rune was supposed to be linked up with the Guarded Compound in the Temple District, and both were supposed to be connected with the Athkatla slave trade. There are items that were never implemented that hint at this.
There was supposed to be a romance between a female PC and Haer’Dalis, that was dropped for lack of time to complete it.
Other things are clearly unfinished. There are “Rune Assassins” that crop up during the Bridge District murders quest. Was that quest supposed to be connected to the Twisted Rune as well? Kalah, the gnome illusionist who took over the circus tent in Athkatla – he says as he’s dying that this isn’t what was promised to him. What was promised to him, and by whom? Who is that random party in that one building in the Bridge District, who attack you without any provocation? This is only off the top of my head.
I think SoA was just rushed out the door too quickly.
Oooh, liches. If there’s one thing Oblivion made routine for me, it’s liches.
They’re the spirits of all the dungeon monsters hacked to pieces by murderhobos lusting after a few gold pieces, reincarnated and determined to see how you like it.
@Falconer
Except that all they do is provide good EXP and a few pieces of vendor trash. Agrajag they ain’t.
Well, no, if they were effective combatants they wouldn’t need to get reincarnated in the first place.
Seems to me like a lot of sequels are unfinished. Knights of the Old Republic II has lots of stuff that was never finished.
*scribbles this down fiercely*
Now…what about Vivec?
I want to kill a god.
Yeah, I actually really do like the compass in modern games for that.
It’s nice to travel without a compass pointing you to quest parts and actually having to describe things to you, but compasses show MORE than just quest points. I wouldn’t mind being able to turn off quest markers but keep a compass that will point out spots of interests.
Yes and yes. Although some of the radiant stuff became a little repetitive. In about ten hours of play I can point that hunter to the thief but keep his enchanted loot, like, five times. But it’s nice to unexpectedly find Meridia’s Beacon in the possession of the emperor or in a bandit’s chest.
And I really, really miss guild quests that you actually had to be proficient in something to do it. You can just SLAUGHTER people in the Thieves’ Guild. Sure, you won’t get that extra gold, but…that’s it.
I really like the Dark Brotherhood questline, though. Because I fucking love Cicero.
http://www.gameinformer.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Components-ImageFileViewer/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files-00-00-00-11-01/8883.cicero_2D00_destructoid_5F00_528_5F00_poster.jpg_2D00_610x0.jpg
I could never kill him. o3o
But I also like J’zargo, so, yeah.
I think you can turn off all of the quests in Skyrim, can’t you? Since you can mark them active or inactive individually?
@Falconer
Yeah, but since you don’t get directions, you kinda need those.
“Hey, Dragonborn, go clear out this cave.”
“…”
“Well?”
“Are…are you gonna tell me where it is? Or its name at least?”
“Why?”
You do, if you’re trying to do the quests. If all you want to do is wander around and see what there is to discover, going to that cave and clearing it out might happen but it’s not something you’re trying to accomplish right now.
@Falconer
Or I can get directions and then get distracted on the way to the quest instead of just wandering around. I mean, there’s the entirety of existence at stake, you kinda want to get that taken care of. 😐
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The main quest should have been time sensitive. The end of the world is not on your watch.
I’d actually like to see an RPG that was shorter in main quest/story, but had more possibilities to mess with it. I mean, I love that Dragon Age:Origins had options that changed based on your origin, and you could have complicated PC relationships, but I really didn’t like playing through hours and hours of set up again just to see small differences.
If you are not going to do massively open world, then give me a tighter main plot, but *real impact* on my choices. Make me lose PCs, cut off whole parts of story, etc, but make it short enough that going back and trying a completely different approach isn’t crushingly dull.
(Basically, drop all the fetch quests and filler, but use that space for complexity instead.)
Especially, as Pandapool suggests, if it is a time sensitive end-of-the-world storyline, cut all the “wander about doing whatever” bits and force the players’ hand. Just make it short enough and varied enough that it is fun to replay.
@lightcastle
I actually really like open-ended gameplay, so it would be nice if the main quest is time sensitive, the game doesn’t end but lets you do side quest and explore. Or if the story was structured so you do these certain quests which open up other quests which story wise you do at a certain time; like, you have main quest points but you don’t actually get the last main quest point of an area until you most of the side quests done, and time doesn’t really pass until a number of quests are done so that way the end of the world or whatever doesn’t actually take 5 years in game to finish, especially when it’s treated like the world ends tomorrow if you don’t get your ass in gear.
I don’t mind open ended/open world either, but I think it is a different experience and should be written differently. From what I understand, DA:Inquisition works the way you want – main quests open up as you clear up side quests and other main quests. (And they deliberately make it that you can ignore them until you are ready.)
I just think if you are actually having a time-sensitive plot then you shouldn’t be allowed to faff about. (Or it should advance while you are faffing about.)
But I think personally, the big thing for me is shorter games so I can replay them with more depth and different approaches. If it isn’t a 100-hour time sink to play through, then I don’t mind missing something because I can go back through and do it another way. Give me a 15-20 hour game with 150 hours of content because I can do it so many different ways instead of a 80 hour game with 70 hours of filler side quests. 🙂
@lightcastle
True, but I REALLY like games that let me explore after they’re done, even if there’s no quests. Kinda like Bully, I guess. There’s set time, missions open up at certain times, and at the end you can finish up missions and collections and can explore, but it doesn’t seem ridiculous to explore and spend time on certain parts because time doesn’t “move forward” story wise. Skyrim has no real set time, just your own schedule, so it’s ridiculous you can do all this stuff before saving the world.
Either you have parts that open according to story time or you have the main quest be time sensitive if you have a plot that is all about world destruction or something else that is drilled into you that it’s IMPERATIVE to get it done ASAP.
You know, I actually like games that are slightly unfinished, because they feel less tidy and more open-ended, like there’s a larger world outside the game that you only see bits of. Like when there’s a character who was obviously supposed to be a quest giver but doesn’t actually give you a quest.
@katz
I don’t particularly like unfinished content because it makes me wonder “what could have been”, ya know? That could have been an awesome quest that was cut! It could have been crappy! But either way I feel a bit disappointed. Seeing cut content is a mixed blessing, sometimes. Like, for instance, in DA, Wynne could have reported you to the Templars if your mage delved into blood magic. That would have been cool! It’s weird that people don’t really don’t respond that you use blood magic in DA 1 and 2, so knowing of cut content that would have had people reacting to such an abhorred magic is kinda a downer.
What I like in a game is the ability to skip things on accident, so you’ll have to replay the game to see what’s up, which is common in Bully and games that have quest areas that “open up”. I didn’t know that Bully has seasonal jobs, like snow shoveling in winter, or you had to smash all the pumpkins to unlock costumes at Halloween time for instance. And I’ve seen plenty of people miss Leliana as a companion in DA or skipped over dungeons and items in Morrowind.
I would really like if quests and such could be skipped over and become unavailable overtime but you’re still able to finish the game okay. It gives incentive to go back and see what you’ve missed. Maybe you could have figured out a way to disable this one bad guy without killing them with this scroll you found in a cave? Maybe you’d find a temple of puzzles with interesting lore inside that collapse after a certain time? There’s a lot of things you can do with time restricted quests that could really give real replay value.
Generally I like it for the same reason I like shorter stories with less pat endings: Because the wondering is almost always better than the reality.
But I also like it because it feels both less like the world revolves around the protagonist and less like everything that happens in the world is part of a neat, resolvable arc that takes place entirely within the timeline of the game, and more like real life, where there’s random stuff that isn’t really a part of anything, setups that don’t resolve, and so on.
One of the bits I loved in Planescape:Torment was that there was one NPC you could piss off so badly he locked his shop and refused to talk to you. He was also a great way to solve one of the quests, but if you had annoyed him you never got the chance. (You could resolve it other ways, though, so it was ok.)
And yes, what you are talking about where you could miss things but it not destroy the main story is what I want. I just want the game short enough that going and playing for weeks just to find out what happened isn’t going to prevent me from doing so.
Wynne not calling you out for Blood Magic always annoyed me no end.
I see what you mean with something like Bully. See, that would be fine, too. The school year goes on, things open up and you do or don’t do them. At the end, what has happened depends on what you do.
(I have an idea for a fantasy game that basically takes place over one calendar year – the events are planned out more or less, but responsive to the actions you take. If you ignore them, they happen anyway and you have to deal with the consequences.)
In the case of BG2, the scrapped Haer’Dalis romance pisses me the hell off. In fact, the entire romance system of BG2 is for shit, but Anomen’s romance, the only one available for female PCs, is the worst. Early on, you are asked to make a decision, and the game’s reality changes depending on your decision to make sure it was the wrong one. You, a female character, are incapable of making the correct decision because reality warps to ensure you didn’t.
Another option might have been nice? I like Haer’Dalis – he’s kind of useless as a party member, but he’s fun. I would have liked to see what his romance would have looked like.
@PoM
I particularly don’t like scraped romances, especially for characters that I really like.
Or, like, in ME3, a BioWare employee accidentally confessed that they totally forgot that Thane was romanceable–the dude they created SPECIFICALLY TO BE ROMANABLE–and that in some DLC for ME2 that he was actually a match for a lung transplant.
(Mass Effect spoilers)
So Thane’s romance in ME3 was tacked on AND he died because the fucking developers forgot a HUGE bit of info. It was likely just scrapped for time on top of that.
The man left behind a bereaved son and Shepard all because of scrapped content.
(end spoilers)
On top of that, he was also meant to be a bi-option, but was scrapped, which I’m kinda glad didn’t happen because then I wouldn’t have romanced Jack and just be stuck on Thane forever.
BUT YOU KNOW THANE DIDN’T EVEN UNLOCK THE PARAMOUR ACHIEVEMENT IN ME3? THAT’S HOW MUCH THEY FUCKING FORGOT ABOUT HIM! THEY NEVER PATCHED IT IN EITHER! NOT EVEN IN THE CITADEL DLC!
AND YES I’M STILL MAD ABOUT IT!
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/attf.gif
*incoherent screaming*
…does Stranded read Homestuck?
Because the ICP actually become president in one of the Alpha timelines in Homestuck through the machinations and political shadiness of Betty Crocker and Guy Fieri.
I would think that Stranded would be against that, considering that it revolves around aliens who actually built our universe through playing a game called SGRUB. (Instead of, y’know, God.)
And then four human characters play a game called SBURB, and they destroy their world, and have to build a new one as part of their game.
It’s complicated.
Re: games
I’d really like a game with real choices, where large portions of the game end up closed off (No, I fucking *SHOULDN’T* be able to be the head of the thieves guild AND the Dark Brotherhood!!) and a time limit, where the plot progressed without you. I know there was a game like this, where NPC’s could finish quests without you, but I can’t remember which it was. From what I’ve heard, almost everyone had the game suddenly end because an NPC just finished the main quest.
Re: the troll
Man, propatria truth teller, I thought he was way more coherent before. This is just some weak sauce fucking word salad trolling.
I mean, fuck, just gonna throw bullshit out about paradise lost like I don’t own three fucking copies.
Morrowind did this. You could only join one of the three great houses, all of which had a really distinctive questline including getting your own “estate” (It was possible to exploit a glitch to join two, but at that point you might as well just open up the console and add yourself to the factions…)
Also, there were relationships between different factions, so at some points a quest for one faction would involve crossing members of another one, which could block off lots of qustlines. That could largely be avoided by doing the quests in a certain order, but it was a shock the first time through being told by the Thieve’s guild that they weren’t going to let me complete the Fighter’s guild quest I was doing because the Fighter’s guild was backed by the Camonna Tong.
You couldn’t join the Dark Brotherhood in Morrowind – they were exclusively antagonists – the closest was the Morag Tong, which required a serious effort just to find without going to outside sources.
I liked that the main quest in Morrowind was at a different pace so it didn’t seem too absurd to be spending a lot of time doing other stuff… especially since it was justified in game, as the PC is essentially working as a spy for the Emperor and thus needs to do other stuff to maintain their cover.
I think a major reason games aren’t doing that as much anymore is because voice acting drives the cost of doing those sorts of branching plotlines up astronomically.
Another Revenge-Porn-Star due to be sentenced:
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-hacking-guilty-plea-20150702-story.html