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Is revenge porn the fault of feminism? Return of Kings douchebags say “yes.”

On Return of Kings, anyway.
On Return of Kings, anyway.

Well, you have to admire their ingenuity, I guess: The terrible people at the lady-hating megasite Return of Kings have figured out a way to blame feminism for … revenge porn.

No, really. Here’s the argument, such as it is, from regular RoK contributor Mark Webster:

What we are seeing with so called ”revenge porn” is an example of the disturbing but inevitable consequences of the first generation of women who, brainwashed by feminist propaganda, truly believe they can do no wrong, and that there are no consequences for their actions. … 

Like so many other modern social problems, feminism is definitely to blame for “revenge porn.” This warped ideology has always irresponsibly promoted the delusional idea that women have all the same rights as men, but without responsibilities or consequences for their actions.

They were the ones who encouraged a life of reckless hedonism and narcissism for young women, with no thought for their futures. They were the ones who spun the gross lie that being pumped and dumped by men who couldn’t care less about them is “empowering.”

Webster pauses for a moment to reflect on the possible culpability of the ex-boyfriends who, you know, actually posted these pictures online as a form of petty revenge, but figures that, since the women chose to go out with these guys, it’s really still the women’s fault anyway.

Now admittedly putting them on the web for the whole world to see is a pretty low act, but they don’t call them bad boys for nothing. You can bet your bottom dollar these are the guys who are far more likely to receive and distribute “sexts” than the nice guys forever languishing in the friend zone.

Lovely.

Webster is right about one thing, though: the proliferation of revenge porn is very definitely related to the issue of consequences. That is, the almost complete lack of consequences faced by the dirtball guys who post these sometimes stolen, sometimes gifted pics online without permission.

But that has started to change. Let’s hope the 18-year-sentence meted out to revenge porn kingpin Kevin Bollaert — who combined internet-age skeeviness with some old-fashioned extortion — is a sign of things to come.

The readers of RoK have some rather different ideas about possible “solutions” to revenge porn.

(If you’re having a decent day, or would simply rather not read puerile fantasies about domestic violence and suicide, you may just want to stop reading here.)

As Black Poison Soul sees it, any woman who takes nude pics of herself should face these “consequences.”

1/ tattoo the word “slut” on her face
2/ put her into the local sluttery (aka free whorehouse)
3/ problem solved

Plus it semi-forces the red pill down men’s throats. I would think it’s hard to validate some whore when you constantly see “slut” every time you look at her face. Even if you’re a blue-pill white-knighting mangina enabler.

Remember. There is always a loser in the game of musical cocks.

Idonggor thinks the problem would be solved if American men were more willing to, well, punch “their” women.

As much as I dislike feminist bull dykes and other self entitled cunts, I also equally blame American men for acting like faggots. I hear many times even from so called “red pill” men that hitting women is wrong.

With that kind of mentality, you are bound to get a chick who will act out of her line.

In the Middle East and certain parts of Russia (where it is ruled by ALPHA MEN), girls would not dare to act like spoiled Americunts. Why?

Because they are scared of their men.

You need to get your women to be scared of you guys…. Have her fear you.

I used to feel sorry for American men for getting all the shit but you guys pretty much deserve it.

If you act like coward faggots, you are doomed to get your women acting like cunts.

BlueSkyGreyWolf, meanwhile, suggests that women who have their pics posted on the internet without their permission just kill themselves.

If the stupid cunts are so guilt ridden ain’t nothing stopping them from killing themselves. In fact, the more worthless female parasites who off themselves, the better off the woorld will be.

Something must be terribly wrong with the “red pills” these guys are taking; they seem to be turning everyone who pops one into literally the worst human beings on planet Earth.

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Feminist Moray
Feminist Moray
5 years ago

What am I reading.

anemonerosie
5 years ago

Whoa. These shining exemplars of humanity sure do know what’s what!

Manginahaha
Manginahaha
5 years ago

When I encounter such bullshit online (especially coming from RoK), things are wrong on so many levels that I fear having to explain why this is nonsense : I woudn’t know where to start

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

PUAs really want men to believe that trusting a man (especially concerning sex) has dire consequences for women and that’s as it should be.

Then in the next breath these shitlords say feminists hate men and complain that it is too hard for them to get women to consent to sex with them and that it should be easier for them to rape women and girls.

PUAs, we don’t hate men. We hate you. We hate you because you’re a cancer on society and your actions and attitudes hurt people.

The only message I’m getting from them loud and clear is that a society that produces men like these is fucked up and has to change on every level. The more they talk, the more I see the need for intersectional feminism.

Tina S
Tina S
5 years ago

Geez. Women are mostly decent enough to not post men’ s nude pics online. I don’ t endorse revenge revenge porn. But this goes back again to women who have to watch everything they do around men who for some reason don’t get taken to task for exploitation. How do men get off the hook for lousy behavior and women don’t.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

What we are seeing with so called ”revenge porn” is an example of the disturbing but inevitable consequences of the first generation of women who, brainwashed by feminist propaganda, truly believe they can do no wrong, and that there are no consequences for their actions. …

This little hypothesis only works if you accept that sending a naked pic or making a sex tape with your boyfriend/husband is either a crime or an unethical act.

When misogynists talk about feminists wanting women to live a life free of consequences or accountability, what they really mean is that they’re angry at feminists for daring to suggest that a woman shouldn’t be abused, raped or killed for not catering to the every whim of angry misogynists.

1/ tattoo the word “slut” on her face
2/ put her into the local sluttery (aka free whorehouse)
3/ problem solved

Case in point.

Apparently feminists/western women/American women are spoiled and entitled for not thinking that en masse corrective rape is a good thing.

In the Middle East and certain parts of Russia (where it is ruled by ALPHA MEN), girls would not dare to act like spoiled Americunts.

Tell that to women like the members of Pussy Riot who went to prison for their activism or Malala Yousafzai who got shot in the face for hers. These women have more bravery and contribute so much more to society than any of these asshole keyboard warriors who think they’re such ALPHA MEN.

maistrechat
5 years ago

“act out of her line.”

In her defense, sometimes the people who write the cue cards have sloppy handwriting.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

PUAs really want men to believe that trusting a man (especially concerning sex) has dire consequences for women and that’s as it should be.

Then in the next breath these shitlords say feminists hate men and complain that it is too hard for them to get women to consent to sex with them and that it should be easier for them to rape women and girls.

This. Do they really want women to only have sex if they’re married? Do they really want women to never get naked in front of men or in front of a camera? Of course not. That wouldn’t please their all important boners. They just want to be able to hurt the women who do have sex and/or show their bodies for being “sluts.”

Monzach
Monzach
5 years ago

As someone who has received a fair amount of nude pictures online (always from a willing and indeed eager participant), I really can’t understand guys who’re willing to share such pictures or videos at a moment’s notice. I personally view the images and videos as highly personal and indeed extremely private. But I guess that’s more to do with me being a moderately civilized person and not a raging MRA. My belief in in humanity is eroded a little bit more every time I hear of things like this. 🙁

banned@4chan.org
banned@4chan.org
5 years ago

So… Revenge porn is the just consequences for women who refuse to settle down with Nice Guys? The sorts of Nice Guys who would make excuses for revenge porn?

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

I’ve been waiting for the right post to link this video in, and I think I just found it.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

Also, these are the guys who will pressure a woman into sending them nudes in the first place. Mother. Fucking. Assholes. OF THE HIGHEST ORDER.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

I forgot to comment on this little gem.

Now admittedly putting them on the web for the whole world to see is a pretty low act, but they don’t call them bad boys for nothing. You can bet your bottom dollar these are the guys who are far more likely to receive and distribute “sexts” than the nice guys forever languishing in the friend zone.

Nope. The “Nice Guys” who can’t get a pic sent consensually will just hack a woman and steal the pics.

freemage
5 years ago

I just… guh. RoK is clearly trying for a non-existent award as the Worst Shithole of the Internet.

idledillettante
5 years ago

@Tina S – I think part of the reason most women don’t post revenge porn of their ex-boyfriends is because posting naked pictures of a man is usually not going to achieve the point of revenge porn- which is to embarrass and humiliate the person in the photos.

It’s an extension of the player/whore double standard- if a man’s dick pics are posted online by a vengeful ex-girlfriend, the Internet hate would be more focused on the ex-girlfriend than on the victimized man. Since revenge porn is mostly a straight dude thing, there wouldn’t be a lot of interest in circulating or even looking at the pictures. This is why men are a lot less careful about posting pictures like these- sometimes they’ll even send them to perfect strangers they met on dating sites. There’s very little risk involved. If a guys mom or boss saw the pictures, they would probably be more sympathetic to the invasion of privacy, whereas women are “supposed to know better” than to distribute erotic photos.
In the handful of cases where a man does suffer substantially because someone posts his revenge porn, it often has to do with that man being married and powerful in other ways- e.g. Anthony Weiner. In that case, his dick pics were considered scandalous because Weiner was married; so they constituted some kind of e-infidelity.

My hope is that erotic photos eventually become so ubiquitous that posting them ceases to become scandalous. At that point, if someone digs up erotic pics the response will only be “so what” and “wow- aren’t you a petty jerk”. People will be less likely to make a scandal out of someone else’s erotic photos because they know it could just as easily happen to them.

ikanreed
ikanreed
5 years ago

The word “slut” is too crass and common. We need to be classy. And a tattoo on “the face” is entirely too close to makeup, which we all know is a kind of lying.

What we need is a big letter. To be permanently emblazoned onto the front of their clothing. It should stand for the crime they’re committing. And clearly having sex when RoK posters don’t approve is a crime. And it should be big. And red.

sevenofmine
5 years ago

I would think it’s hard to validate some whore when you constantly see “slut” every time you look at her face.

So close and yet, so far. Dollars to donuts this same guy would deny with his last breath that the way women are portrayed in media has any effect on people’s attitudes.

kylagb
5 years ago

Is it now possible for us to say “I’ve heard it all”? after reading this? 🙁

ikanreed
ikanreed
5 years ago

@kylagb

To steal a phrase from another site about another site: there’s always more, and it’s always worse.

NicolaLuna
NicolaLuna
5 years ago

“There is always a loser in the game of musical cocks”

1.) Musical cocks sounds like a great party game. I want to play it after drinking whiskey.

2.) The loser should have been faster when the music stopped.

3.) The misogynist who wrote that isn’t invited to my musical cocks/whiskey party.

yutolia
yutolia
5 years ago

@lea
Totally agree with everything you said!!

@Idonggor
Have you actually ever been to Russia? I used to live there and I can’t imagine you lasting even a day. Even if you did get around the cops to begin with (most likely you would not and might on the receiving end of quite a bit of “alpha male” violence), many of the women woukdalso make a meal of you. Really, you think that Russian women are fragile daffodils who will do whatever you say? Think again, dude.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

When you play the game of musical cocks, you win or you have bonersads.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

1/ tattoo the word “slut” on her face
2/ put her into the local sluttery (aka free whorehouse)
3/ problem solved

BUT WHUT ABOUT TEH MENZ???

Hey, PUA scum…this is why no one wants you. Because your “game” is so transparent, and this shit only makes you look fuglier (if such a thing is even possible anymore).

andemilybites
5 years ago

I just…tattoo her face and lock her in a rapehouse?

I don’t want to deal with knowing there are people in the world who say things like that.

(On the bizarre side, a sluttery sounds a bit like a cattery. If anything was funny right now there’d probably be amusing cattery jokes to be made.)

autosoma
5 years ago

I wish I could say something profound or meaningful about how this mindset can be changed, but I don’t think it can. I’ve met loads of geezers with these kind of mindsets and I’m constantly baffled by them and how they get to make this shit up.

I wish they’d stop this nice guy whinging, all they have to do it is read their own shit objectively to realise they are the same as the bad boys, immature selfish shitlords, who richly deserve the misery they make for themselves.

Anne
Anne
5 years ago

*Pukes*

davidknewton
davidknewton
5 years ago

Not only saying that, but thinking they’re the “nice guys” as well! It’s… incredible to think that people justify that in their minds.

Vanir (@Vanir85)
5 years ago

To the idiot waste of air that wrote the following;

I would think it’s hard to validate some whore when you constantly see “slut” every time you look at her face. Even if you’re a blue-pill white-knighting mangina enabler.

Or, you know. Institutionalized violence, branding and enslaving women for enjoying their freedom sexually, is the kinda extreme tyranny that will end with violent social revolution, quickly. At best you get a quick overthrow of the misogynist culture, at worst it turns your culture into a mess of violent factions constantly fighting.

But then again, you idolize the Middle East and Russia – respectively a place of constant violent unrest, and a place of growing corruption and fascism and “strong man politics” tithering on the edge of becoming a place of constant violent unrest. So I suppose this is what you actually want. Violence. Bloodshed. Rule of the strongest.

Also. In your little dream sharia-state, can men take nude pictures of themselves? Is it ok if a man takes naked pictures of a woman? (or vice versa). Is is just women who will be punished if they are sexually assertive?If so, how do you justify that (or do you just revel in your injustice and simply don’t care if it’s wrong)?

sn0rkmaiden
5 years ago

So, they believe revenge porn is something a guy does, after HE’S rejected a woman, or to use RoK vernacular, pumped and dumped?

Because up to now I was under the impression that revenge porn was something a man did as revenge, either for being dumped by the woman or by committing the sin of having a hackable online account.

However I think Webster’s line of reasoning will be very popular among consumers of revenge porn who would like fresh excuses not to take responsibility for their own actions.

Ellesar
Ellesar
5 years ago

I looked at a couple of these sites because I wanted to see for myself what these guys are prepared to do and I found a load of photos of a fully clothed (probably Indian) woman! Just by association she is shamed… except of course anyone who isn’t a complete shithead knows that this says a number of things about the people responsible for putting those photos there, and all it tells us about the woman in the photos is that she was right to break up with a complete loser.

Mij
Mij
5 years ago

Musical cocks sounds like a great party game. I want to play it after drinking whiskey.

Why not skip the whiskey drinking and go straight to the musical cocks playing? :p

ronanwills
5 years ago

Another iteration of “a bloo bloo women won’t have sex with me”. It’s amazing how transparent the real root of their anger is.

Kakanian
Kakanian
5 years ago

As far as I can tell, the only thing that stops women from turning all the dick pics into revenge porn is that sending them to the owner’s friends and family and workplace would basically constitute yet another case of online harassement. Nobody’s happy about recieving dick pics they didn’t explicitly ask for.

Jimmy
Jimmy
5 years ago

I don’t like it at all that I came up with this idea, but, I think “act out of her line” really meant “act out of HER line.” As in, there’s a “line” someone can “act out of” as a woman, and an entirely (and less restrictive) different line for a man in their imaginary world.

Don’t like it, but, I can forgive myself because I know what kind of people are putting down what I picked up.

P.Roberts
P.Roberts
5 years ago

I can’t imagine why these guys don’t have women lining up for their manly attention. Just when I think the internet can’t get worse, it does. I am going to vomit now.

Fred_the_Dog
5 years ago

Oh good grief. What poopyheads.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

So, they believe revenge porn is something a guy does, after HE’S rejected a woman, or to use RoK vernacular, pumped and dumped?

Because up to now I was under the impression that revenge porn was something a man did as revenge, either for being dumped by the woman or by committing the sin of having a hackable online account.

See, the only reason it all makes sense to them is because it all boils down to “a woman is always to blame”. She had sex with a guy she loved at the time? She’s to blame! She sent him pix that he asked for, or let him take pix of her? She’s to blame! She stored her private photos in a cloud computer? She’s to blame! She dumped him when he boinked her so-called friend? She’s to blame! Et cetera.

Motto: Always, ALWAYS blame the woman, because women are always, ALWAYS sluts.

leftwingfox
5 years ago

“Nude on the internet? Your punishment is death”.

Yep, every time I see someone arguing “There should be consequences for actions” it’s always in favor of disproportionately harsh punishment for those actions. Always the fallacy of the excluded middle: the fear that someone is getting off light for their behavior.

freemage
5 years ago

davidknewton | July 6, 2015 at 1:16 pm

Not only saying that, but thinking they’re the “nice guys” as well! It’s… incredible to think that people justify that in their minds.

Most of the “game” shitheads will tell you that they ~used~ to be nice guys, but that they stopped being nice because it wasn’t getting them laid every Saturday night. Never to enter their puerile little minds is the notion that being nice solely to manipulate a woman into having sex with you isn’t nice at all, so they never actually qualified.

StarStorm
5 years ago

I, for one, am up for some musical cocks.

Aunt Edna
Aunt Edna
5 years ago

@Bina:

IATWF (It’s All The Women’s Fault).

This useful acronym sums up the entirety of the manuresphere. And, curiously (not*) it’s the one that the manurespherians, so fond of acronyms, do not use, even though it describes their views to a T.

*They prefer to waste everyone’s time moaning and groaning on the theme ad nauseam (and ad absurdum).

rookinthegarret
rookinthegarret
5 years ago

I would think it’s hard to validate some whore when you constantly see “slut” every time you look at her face. Even if you’re a blue-pill white-knighting mangina enabler.

I’m thinking of the reaction of the vast, vast majority of guys I know to this. I’ve got quite a lot of very close friends who are of the dudely variety.

I don’t think they’d be thinking about how the woman was a slut in this case. I’m pretty sure they’d be full of rage aimed at whoever did this.

Jamie
5 years ago

sunnysombrera that video is the best thing I’ve seen in ages

Bazia
Bazia
5 years ago

May I say that the continuing harassment, which has become torture, of the young red-haired student activist in Canada whom misogynists have chosen to destroy over and over, is beyond disgusting, immoral, and obscene. If I ever hear that she is requesting donations to fuck her torturers over in a court of law which would happen the moment her case was heard, I will contribute generously.

Stranded in Babylon
Stranded in Babylon
5 years ago

The Catholic church and most other traditional religions frown on sex tapes. Therefore, the regulars of this site are still operating within a flawed paradigm, even if you are on balance certainly more moral than the PUAs. Sex should be confined to marriage; if that were so, there would not be some of these problems. As the oddly insiteful poetess of the hippy debacle, Janis Joplin, sagely sung “Freedom is another word for nothing left to lose.” (BTW isn’t it suspicious that she died right before criticizing Vatican II? Documentation on that will be out soon).

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

…What?

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Janis Joplin died right before criticizing the Vatican? So, she criticized from beyond the grave? Cool!

Jenny (@dontgiveah00t)

I wrote out a long reply then just sort of sat there forlornly because in the end it would make no difference. People would continue to think like this and out there somewhere someone’s going to act on it sooner or later, again and again and again.

Binjabreel
5 years ago

And you know, this lionizing of (insert ethnicity they’re obsessed with) women is always absurd.

You know what my experience with extremely antifeminist women has been, like women from Russia who are super obsessed with alpha manliness?

They’re fucking horrible. Everything these douchecanoes complain that women do (policing their emotions, belittling weakness, insisting they pay for them, treating them like cash machines) I’ve typically ever encountered in women from uber-paternalistic cultures.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

@WWTH

That’s some serious debunking of Catholicism if she criticised it while dead, for sure.

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