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MRA huckster Paul Elam is asking for donations so he can charge dudes money to talk to him

Please donate generously to keep this poor fellow in the business of ripping you off
Please donate generously to keep this poor fellow in the business of ripping you off

More signs of desperation over at A Voice for Men, the Men’s Rights/Lady Disparagement site that has apparently ceased to be the cash cow for its founder, the unlovely and untalented Paul Elam, that it once was:

1) Turgid articles on … Ethanol, and “Future trends in eyewear technology”

Get prepared to have your world shattered, people! Now, in addition to the traditional lady-hating posts, AVFM is now opening its pages to articles on “men’s interests” as well!

So far, this has consisted of a handful of posts on a seemingly random assortment of topics ranging from Ethanol to fishing mishaps, all of them badly written and all of them reprinted from Examiner.com, a site where pretty much anyone can post pretty much anything they want. (The post on “eyewear technology” smells an awful lot like a press release for “Eyeglass World, a leading retailer of affordable prescription eyewear.”)

While this might look on the surface like an effort on Elam’s part to pump up traffic to his site without doing any actual work, he’s selling it, hard, as a proof of a GIANT VICTORY FOR MEN’S RIGHTS. Then again Elam could probably convince his supremely gullible followers that a fart at a dinner party was a trumpet blast announcing the imminent fall of feminism.

AVFM is changing. Allow me to explain.

While we are still light years from some needed social changes and actual, measurable improvements to men’s rights are still lacking, we have accomplished one thing. Namely our job.

AVFM’s core mission has been to change the public narrative about sexual politics; to force a critique of feminism into the cultural consciousness and to chip away at the empathy gap when it comes to the sexes. We are starting to see that happen …

The growth of our message throughout the mainstream is now unstoppable because of you. …

The worm is turning. That opens a door for us and insists on ushering us through it.

That’s right: a worm is opening the door for them, like some kind of freaking worm butler. Which raises the question: How many worm butlers will there be? (One at first, but he’ll train others.)

This is the future for how AVFM pushes the counter-theory. It is fitting with what we have been saying for years. We ARE the media. We have proven it. The day when we can say we ARE the mainstream may or may not come, at least in my life.

But you can bet your ass I will keep swinging to the last breath.

Swing away Paul. Paul, swing away!

2) Elam is now soliciting donations so that he can charge people to talk to him

Last month, you may recall, Elam announced the launch of an exciting new venture: A Near for Men.

Sorry, I meant “An Ear for Men,” a “service” whereby Mr. Elam, a board-uncertified mental health unprofessional, hopes to charge dudes $90 an hour to talk about their problems with him on Skype.

I say “hopes to” because he’s having a bit of trouble getting dudes to agree to this particular proposition. Indeed, if you look at the appointments page on his site, you will see a vast sea of open slots. It’s not clear if he’s gotten even a single person to sign up, as what looks like a possible weekly appointment at 1:30 every Tuesday could just be Elam deciding to take a break from his gruelling schedule of doing absolutely nothing for men other than himself.

So Elam has added a “donation” page to his site (archived here) so dudes who can’t afford an appointment with AVFM’s chief snake-oil salesman can help support his failing business of charging other dudes $90 an hour to talk to him about how much they hate their exes.

I guess I’ll give him points for sheer chutzpah.

H/T — to the anonymous internetter who pointed out Elam’s donations page to me. Also, I stole the “A Near for Men” joke from someone, but I can’t remember whom.

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zyvlyn
zyvlyn
6 years ago

Man. I thought Elam would have been able to get at least a few of his misguided, gullible followers to volunteer to be ripped off. I guess now we know that there is a bottom to that well.

Kootiepatra
6 years ago

I just somehow feel like this gif is fitting here.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/3874024_o.gif

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

The worm is turning!!!!

Now it all makes sense. They get their gender politics from old episodes of The Two Ronnies!

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
6 years ago

Awwww yuuuss.

I declare today “International Popcorn Gif Day”.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/popcorn-gifs/bundy.gif

It’s a great day.

Bernardo Soares
Bernardo Soares
6 years ago

@Alan
Bizarrely fitting. wow.

Reminds me of a Polish “cult classic” called “Sexmisja”, which is even worse, but for some reason very popular in Poland.

chaltab
chaltab
6 years ago

You know, if someone wrote a story about a cartoonishly evil and inept MRA whose name is literally the word ‘male’ spelled backwards, I’d probably think it was too on the nose.

Paradoxical Intention
6 years ago

“Whelp, we’re not getting as much money as we wanted, and no one really pays us any serious attention (That meanie-pants mangina Futrelle keeps mocking us on his site, so that’s a plus), but, people are criticizing feminism! VICTORY FOR US! Now, open your wallet! Daddy Elam needs a new house.”

They literally think anything’s a victory, don’t they? Us mocking them is a victory simply because we’re warning people of their awfulness, people criticizing feminism (which feminists have done for fucking ages now) is somehow all because of them…

It’s like that thing they do where they claim all advances in society made by men because they are also men, and thus, they invented everything by virtue of penis.

Except now it’s like anytime someone says something negative about feminism (no matter how constructive, or if a feminist said it), it’s somehow a “victory” for them?

Kay.

Monzach
Monzach
6 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw:

Man, now I have a real hankering to watch the “Four Candles” sketch again. Or do I mean “‘Andles for Forks”? 😛

As for the OP… Well, suffice it to say that I rarely have enough spare cash to even think about spending 90 bucks on something like this, but even if I had it, I wouldn’t use my money to support anything P. E. is selling. *shudders*

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

@ Monzac

“It’s not the sort of restaurant if you *do* like rook” always makes me giggle.

Monzach
Monzach
6 years ago

@ Alan:

Hehehe. 😀 British sketch comedy is definitely up there amongst my favourites. Can’t get enough of it really.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

@ Monzach

You might appreciate this

Monzach
Monzach
6 years ago

@ Alan:

Thanks for the link. 🙂 Love David Mitchell’s work. Such a dry sense of wit. 🙂

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

“In Centigrade it’s cold and in Fahrenheit it’s solid”

Cyberwulf
Cyberwulf
6 years ago

You know what’s sad? If only Paul Elam and his fellow AVfMers had spent their time doing something that would actually address men’s problems, they’d have something to show for it instead of nebulous “criticism of feminism” (which totally never existed until AVfM showed up). A men’s shelter. A suicide hotline specifically for young men. A forum where men whose partners have had an abortion can talk through their feelings *away* from their partner. Support groups for non-custodial dads that talk about how to make the most of their visitation time and aren’t seething hotbeds of misogyny. Hell, does AVfM ever boost Movember? Or One for the Boys?

sn0rkmaiden
6 years ago

Last time I bothered reading Judgypants she was bragging about writing for The Examiner. So is that not even a proper magazine?

sn0rkmaiden
6 years ago

And as for Elam, I wonder if anyone asked him if he was going to return all that ticket money from the conference that never was?

Ryan
Ryan
6 years ago

Elam started the fire.
It was always burning
Since the worm’s been turning.

Sorry, I’m a big fan of The Office (and Billy Joel).

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

How does the MRM have any kind of PR victory? These days, MRA don’t even admit to being MRA because it’s considered a joke to pretty much everyone. Even dudebros who don’t like feminism think they’re a joke.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

The worm is turning. That opens a door for us and insists on ushering us through it.

Ugh, what a hideous picture THAT mixed metaphor calls up. (My subconscious insists on giving the worm the head of a dick.)

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

to force a critique of feminism into the cultural consciousness and to chip away at the empathy gap when it comes to the sexes

And, by golly, they’ve done it…they’ve made the gap wider! Women now enjoy LESS empathy than at any time after the mid-Victorian era! Good job, Paulie!

(That IS what’s meant by “chipping away at a gap”, isn’t it? Widening said gap? Because there’s no way that shitty metaphor could make sense otherwise…)

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
6 years ago

This is good for bitcoin.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
6 years ago

(My subconscious insists on giving the worm the head of a dick.)

Mine gives the worm a little bellhop costume.

deniseeliza
deniseeliza
6 years ago

Geez, I thought at the very least his biggest fan woody (shut up) would have signed up for daily sessions!

katz
katz
6 years ago

Worms make good butlers. They have such good manners.

http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/i/2013/09/12/best-lowly-worm-book-03.jpg

Auntie Alias
Auntie Alias
6 years ago

Ah, so this explains why there was an article about lighting a BBQ on AVFM. It was written by the British woman who was organizing the doomed convention, I think. Her advice was panned by all two commenters.

From the same AVFM page:

Today is June 24. We are three days past where we would normally have to have a fundraiser, calling on men already affected by the problems to reach in their wallets and help us keep our nostrils above the waterline financially.

For the first time in six years, I did not have to bother you and you did not have to be bothered. For me personally that is a gift; riddance of a source of stress I never wanted, but was necessary for the time.

Now, we are moving to a very affordable, reward-based membership model that only depends on people who can afford it. All of the money goes to fund the business structure around AVFM and all the material here will remain free. Avoiceformen.com will not be a source of personal income for me for the foreseeable future. Whatever the outcome the time has come that AVFM pays its own way on and with the mainstream’s dime, and a little support from those who care.

I shudder to think of what the membership rewards might be. Any idea what mainstream dime he’s talking about?

In sad news, a 35-year-old woman who practices family law was critically injured by a bomb in a package she opened at her office in Winnipeg, Canada today. I sure hope it wasn’t the act of a misogynist who felt screwed over during a divorce. Her romantic partner is a lawyer who was just disbarred and had worked at the same firm. It could be related to that but it seems like a long shot.

Sarity
Sarity
6 years ago

@Cyberwulf

I wish it were feasible to take an accurate sum of all the time, money, and effort spent circle jerking about teh ebuls of feminism and calculate how many men’s shelters could have been built with it, suicide prevention/outreach programs formed, workplace safety lobbying campaigns started, funding for prostate cancer raised, and other opportunities for concrete measures that have gone to waste in favor of hateful bitching.

Cyberwulf
Cyberwulf
6 years ago

@Sarity The tragedy of the MRM is that there *are* social issues that disproportionately affect men, and plenty of men would be better off if those issues were tackled. The MRM could be supporting young fathers, boosting men’s health awareness, working with gay and trans organisations to make sure male spaces are safe for gay and trans men, looking into *why* there’s such a high rate of suicide among young men, and *why* men are disproportionately affected by homelessness, and maybe *doing* something about it.

But it’s much easier and more satisfying to sit on the internet and scream about how your fucking bitch of an ex-wife stole your kids and is a money-hungry golddigger.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

I love Lowly the Worm! I have a tattoo of him on my back!

Binjabreel
6 years ago

Oh man, Hucklecat, I used to devour those books when I was little.

Mij
Mij
6 years ago

None of you have ever heard of a worm drive before?

Terrabeau
Terrabeau
6 years ago

Holy crap. Elam’s hokey site says that he treats anxiety disorders. I shudder to think of anyone actually suffering from chronic anxiety going to this dipshit for help.

Terrabeau
Terrabeau
6 years ago

Also. maybe someone should tell Paul that “The pen is in your hand” is a terrible slogan for, well, anything. You know, because of misreading and sexual innuendo and all that. It doesn’t help that the line is accompanied by a creepy picture of Elam staring at you like you’re the tastiest morsel at a tapas bar.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Holy crap. Elam’s hokey site says that he treats anxiety disorders. I shudder to think of anyone actually suffering from chronic anxiety going to this dipshit for help.

Ugh, srsly. Is he even qualified to do that? Because I can easily see him making someone’s problems much, much worse.

canuck_with_pluck
canuck_with_pluck
6 years ago

@auntie alias: that’s terrible! How the hell did it get through? Don’t things like that get checked?

Also in sad news from Canada, I learned today that one of Canada’s most perverse and violent criminals is applying for day parole. He won’t get it, but the application is a giant waste of resources, and it means that his victims have to be informed and they shouldn’t ever have to think about him. He’s just doing it because he legally can, and he enjoys f**king with people. I grew up not far from where his crimes took place, while his crimes took place, and it was a dark time. (Looking back, knowing what I know now. I was too young at the time). Sorry to bring people down, but it’s been upsetting me all day.

epitome of incomprehensibility

@canuck_with_pluck – Yeah, that sucks. I don’t know who you’re referring to (for reference, I live in Montreal), but I’m fine not knowing (perhaps I’ll read about it tomorrow anyway). It especially sucks that people victimized by his crimes have to be notified even if he isn’t actually on parole. I mean, if they have power in the decision making, perhaps, but if they don’t, it seems cruel and pointless.

It reminds me of another case where a murderer called Luka Magnotta was in the news for creating a profile on a prison dating site. He’d gotten a lot of press, and I was gritting my teeth because I was afraid the reportage would slip into the “depraved homosexual/bisexual” trope (seriously, there’s a page for both on TV Tropes; it’s not just about queer people being supposedly sex-obsessed but about them being evil) and as a queer person myself I was thinking NO PLEASE NO. And with this, sure he might be looking for a relationship, but it also seems like a way to keep himself in the public eye.

misseb47
misseb47
6 years ago

canuck_with_pluck-The evil bastard! >:-( I seriously hope he never gets released.

epitome of incomprehensibility

On topic, now – I prefer to think that worm butlers represent a victory for worm’s rights, not men’s rights, so long as they’re getting paid in high-quality dirt. Which they won’t be, I suspect, if they’re employed by Paul Elam.

misseb47
misseb47
6 years ago

Paradoxical Intention-I have always found it strange how they call the most disastrous defeat a victory. I think it is because they have never really succeeded at anything and that is why they don’t know what victory really feels like.

canuck_with_pluck
canuck_with_pluck
6 years ago

@epitome: given his history with the media, I suspect that’s exactly why Magnotta did it.

@misseb47: this person was given “dangerous offender” status which means he will never be released. Which is why it’s pointless for him to apply.

GrumpyOldSocialJusticeMangina

He’s sort of Canada’s version of Charles Manson, or at least Ted Bundy, isn’t he?

Binjabreel
6 years ago

This guy has a great bit about the Gay Villain trope, mostly about Disney movies.

(Horribly, incredibly NSFW, btw.)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KFyo9b4_6iY

Miss Andry
6 years ago

Oops, a feminist looked at him funny. That’ll be another thousand bucks for extra security.

katz
6 years ago

WWTH: That’s an awesome subject for a tattoo.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
6 years ago

Don’t feed popcorn to the cats! It’ll make their tummies all upset.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
6 years ago

Also: Happy treason day to all my homies in the States. Congratulations on having gotten away with it thus far. One day the King of England will come back for the Eastern Seaboard, but that is not this day.

misseb47
misseb47
6 years ago

canuck_with_pluck-“this person was given “dangerous offender” status which means he will never be released. Which is why it’s pointless for him to apply.”

Thank the Goddess for that. But it still is a very low move. I am glad that bastard has no chance at getting parole.

misseb47
misseb47
6 years ago

EJ (The Other One)-I won’t, but my cat will eat anything she can get her paws on. XD Sometimes I wonder if she is really part vacuum cleaner! O.O

misseb47
misseb47
6 years ago