If their reaction to the widespread mockery of The Sarkeesian Effect trailer is any indication, the two biggest critics of the “critic who cannot be criticized” cannot handle much in the way of criticism. Davis Aurini, the Nazi-er of the two Sarkeesian Effect auteurs, has been blocking the critics on his Youtube channel, evidently oblivious to the ironies. Jordan Owen, the one with the hair, has been yelling into his computer and putting the results up on Youtube. (See above.)
I wouldn’t really recommend watching the entire 18-minute-plus video, in which Owen, bristling with anger, reads out his response to a two-week-old piece in the Houston Press making fun of the trailer, unless you have some sort of fetish for long-winded long-haired dudes talking in silly “Valley Girl” voices, making fun of the spelling of people’s names, literally screeching about the “racism and sexism” allegedly faced by white dudes, and generally making no fucking sense whatsoever (while gratuitously working the n-word into their rants).
Seriously, just watch the bits I’ve linked to in the paragraph above and you’ll have a pretty good taste of the whole thing. Or read the rather amusing (and accurate) executive summary prepared by one anti-gamergater here.
The skin, it is a bit thin, no?
Here’s the original Sarkeesian Effect Trailer.
Oh, wait, that was my version. Here’s the one by Owen and Aurini.
And in case you didn’t get that “bathtub orator” reference in the title, this will explain it.
@WWTH
I believe so!
Tracy,
Absentia is great. Recommend to every Lovecraft fan that is disappointed in all the movie adaptations of his worse since it’s a Lovecraftesque story but more subtle and contemporary. If they ever take it off Netflix, I might have to look for the DVD on Amazon.
The more I try to understand GamerGate, the more confused I get. It seems to boil down to a bunch of privileged straight white boys crying that various “SJWs” hurt their feelers.
To be fair, Lovecraft’s racism didn’t seem motivate him to be a shitty person people of colour.
All I know is that Lovecraft was an anti-Semite but married a Jewish woman. That’s just confusing as fuck.
What HPL seems to have been, to me, was just flat-out xenophobic: deeply scared of anything outside of a rather narrow comfort zone of WASPy New England culture. But if he got out and met some folks he tended to be civil to them. Then his life would take a downturn and he’d retreat and become fearful again.
I think ole HPL was on the one hand deeply racist (and a whole lot of other -isms) but he was also a) too timid to actually do something about and b) too nice, or at least to well-mannered, to insult people to their faces. He fancied himself an English gentleman, after all.
And yes, dude was frightened of more or less anything that wasn’t white and anglo-saxon.
Heh. Before the video began it warned me of “Cartoon Violence – Crude Humor”. Turned out to be an ad for LEGO Jurassic World…
Owen isnt the lesser evil. He is at the same level as the rest of the MRA. He has been “following” tons of female femnazists over the years. Dont make him the “he is a nice guy, but hanging out with the wrong ppl”.
Lovecraft was terrified of anything even slightly different from himself. He wrote stories which showed bigoted fear about Prussians, about American Southerners and Westerners, and even about the people of New England who happened to come from agricultural or fishing regions rather than his own genteel enclavr. It’s kind of hilarious. In his mind, anyone even slightly different from him was a monster. A squamous, eldritch, shuddersome monster.
@Lea
You got through it all? You deserve a medal!
I can’t imagine finishing this, because it proves that many people hadn’t oughta auteur YouTube clips over two minutes in duration. Editing Oscars exist out of a palpable need.
@Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
“Did you know that, sometimes, words can have more than one meaning depending on how they’re used? Hell, you only have to scroll down a couple of lines to see it:”
your definition is not in any dictionaries and is only used by people on the far left. Lea also said that it is the only definition and the dictionary is wrong.
It’s so poetic, really. The producers of a documentary subtitled “The critic who cannot be criticized” actively working to stifle criticism of their work. Classic.
A lot of horror is xenophobic. A lot of Algernon Blackwood’s work involved lone Englishmen encountering evil in various other countries. The French Alps, rural Hungary, rural Canada, New York City, somewhere in Germany etc.
Although I don’t the fear of the other tropes in horror are necessarily bad as long as they’re examined properly. We do sort of naturally fear unfamiliar people and places. As long as we recognize that fear for what it is and don’t let it turn to hate. It’s all good. I like a lot of backwoods/rural horror. The Willows by Blackwood is one of my favorite horror stories. The Descent is one of my favorite movies. As a lifelong city girl, there’s a lot about being in rural areas that makes me nervous. Especially at night. It’s dark. No one can hear you scream. If someone or something is chasing you, there’s no all night gas station in running distance. You’re not going to stumble onto a patrolling cop or a group of people. There’s all sorts of vegetation someone or something could hide in. Gah! I’ll never know why it’s urban areas people are afraid of! But I’m able to understand my unease in rural areas comes from a sort of primal fear of the unfamiliar that’s in us all. I’m able to not stereotype all rural people as creepy, toothless, and wanting to kill any unfortunate city folk who happen to stumble into their domain. And I think horror helps me recognize that by providing a catharsis and giving me an opportunity to analyze my fears in the safety of my own home.
And now I’m navel gazing. Sorry. Since horror and horror fans are maligned, not on this site, but generally I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about why I love the genre so much and why it’s not bad, dangerous and sick as some people think it is.
I would’ve appreciated more screen time of his shoe. It has more personality.
@venny
Guess what, fuckwit, complex academic and political concepts like racism aren’t covered by three lines in a dictionary of the English language. Even wikipedia gives you a long-ass article on racism, much more so a lexicon of the history of concepts.
Here in the adult world, we can grasp that “racism” is a signifier for a whole range of historical, social, and political phenomena. Be it personal stereotyping, institutional discrimination, or bullshit scientific hierarchies from the 19th century, racism is geographically and historically a fact or rather, a whole range of facts that, taken together, result in the fact that stereotyping white men has no fucking consequences for white men whatsoever, whereas stereotyping women and people of color is intrinsically linked to histories of oppression and violence.
That is a fact, just like evolution, although usually called a theory, is a fact. Seriously, your argument is like one of those Intelligent design smartasses who think they’re smart by misunderstanding the academic concept of a theory.
venny, do you think nobody can find the “Older Comments” link?
The definition SFHC quoted comes from the very first dictionary link you posted, dictionary.reference.com .
If you think a dictionary site is only used by people on the far left, or that that invalidates it, why did you link to it in a failed attempt to make a point?
Lea didn’t mention dictionaries, and said that it’s “the only kind […] that there are” (in the context of things that exist in the world), not “the only definition” (unicorns have a definition).
https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/06/15/bathtub-orator-jordan-owen-responds-to-critics-of-the-sarkeesian-effect-trailer-with-funny-voices-mansterics/comment-page-1/#comment-771924
And your use of the word “far left” rather indicates your position on the political spectrum – if mainstream concepts are “far left” from you, that tells me where you stand.
@ Bernardo (and anyone else who may know the answer)
A lot of the creationism BS arises because, in English, ‘theory’ has both the meanings of ‘hypothesis’ and ‘description of how something works’ Creationists of course misunderstand which version applies in ‘theory of evolution’
Just wondering whether there are languages where the equivalent of theory doesn’t have the two meanings and if so does what do creationists in that situation still try to use that tactic.
Does anyone know ?
@ Tracy: I loved Pontypool! dunno why, but I’m a sucker for Stephen McHattie.
it seems that there’s a bigot version of “crank magnetism”.. if they have one bigotry, they’ll have a bunch of others
@ Alan
it’s the same in German, although I’d say that this is also a difference between the colloquial use (“It’s just a theory”) and the academic use (theory of evolution, gender theory, marxist theory, and so on). Academics say hypothesis if they mean the first.
Anyway, creationists argue consciously in bad faith when they confuse the two meanings. And I’d argue that venny, by using extremely short word definitions from the OED (and not even reading them correctly, because they cover our use here) and saying that a concept is not a fact, does the same.
weirwoodtreehugger: I’m a country girl transported to the city, and it’s actually the exact opposite for me. Cities still make me feel a little claustrophobic, all the noise and strangers around. In my little rural hometown, I knew everybody. All that vegetation provides lots of places for me to hide in 🙂 You’re spot on, it’s all about fear of the unknown and unfamiliar. And horror has that possibility of examining and understanding that fear. Bringing it out in the open where it can be looked at, instead of festering away unarticulated.
Kind of OT, but I just watched a Spanish horror film called The House at the End of Time, which was really good. An interesting take on the haunted house story. I recommend it to fellow horror fans.
Is venny seriously trying to argue that white men face racism and sexism the same way that people of color experience racism and women experience sexism?
Sparky,
I couldn’t decide from the synopsis blurb on Netflix whether or not I wanted to watch it. Now that someone recommends it, maybe I’ll watch it tonight.
Venny,