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Man kills woman said to have reported him for sexual harassment; Red Pillers “find it hard to blame him.”

Friends and family remember Andrea Farrington, who was murdered on
Friends and family remember Andrea Farrington

On Friday, security guard Alexander Kozak was reportedly fired from his job at the Coral Ridge Mall in Iowa. According to news accounts, Kozak, a self-identified “born free, gun toting, Constitution loving American,” returned home, retrieved a handgun, then returned to the mall, where he shot and killed a young woman named Andrea Farrington, with whom he was reportedly obsessed.

A local radio station reported that Kozak was fired

due to complaints of sexual harassment of store employees. It’s believed he targeted the woman, who reportedly worked at the Iowa Children’s Museum, because her complaint was the last in a series and led to his firing.

Over on the Roosh V forum, an online hangout for “Red Pillers” and fans of the repugnant pickup artist and rape legalization proponent, some of the regulars are “finding it hard to blame” Kozak for the murder.

Despite knowing even less about the case than what I’ve posted above, one commenter, going by the name Ziltoid, concluded that Kozak had probably been guilty of nothing more serious than offending the victim’s delicate sensitivities.

Like rape, does the term sexual harassment prettymuch no longer have any real meaning?
IE it’s safe to assume there’s no chance this guy actually touched her or said anything overtly lewd?

As somebody who’s been job hunting for some time now picturing being fired, in this job market, over some twit finding you “creepy”… Sad to say I’m finding it hard to blame him.

While a number of commenters found Ziltoid’s justification of outright murder a bit creepy in themselves — one urged him to “[p]lease don’t ever leave your house” — others agreed that Kozak was guilty of nothing more than being unattractive to women.

Given the lack of details regarding the allegations, it is safe to assume he did not touch or proposition these women. Simply put, he was guilty of having no game and/or being creepy. … 

As far as I’m concerned, his being guilty of not giving these bitches the tingles is what caused him to get fired, and in turn, murder this chick.

Samseau, one of the more active commenters on Roosh’s site, concocted an elaborate hypothetical scenario in which “Alex [Kozak]’s only crime was being average.” As Samseau sees it, Kozak was probably fired for something as trivial as telling a mall customer she looked “beautiful.”

He bases this on a news report saying that Kozak, who took his wife’s last name when he married last fall, was raised by a single mother.

[A]fter examining the above facts here is the most likely conclusion:

He wasn’t being rude to anyone on his job. He wasn’t trying to be a pick-up artist on the job and shitting where he eats. His ‘prior-complaints leading up to his firing’ are almost certainly trumped-up charges. His crime? Being a beta male raised without a father and a domineering mother.

After he was fired for no good reason, as Samseau imagines it,

this poor man, who receives such injustice is immediately filled with burning rage; all of the issues of his childhood neglect well-up inside of him, and he stops thinking rationally.

“What the fuck is this. How am I supposed to keep my wife now? How can we have children if I have no income? What am I supposed to do now? I DID NOTHING WRONG!! THAT FUCKING BITCH! THAT STUPID WHORE! I KNOW WHO DID THIS. SHE THINKS I’M A SEXUAL HARASSER?”

Alex believes his life is over. He knows he won’t find another job; it took him nearly a year to find this one. He won’t find another girl; he’s already balding and his current wife is so beautiful to him it is impossible to imagine life without her. He already knows he’ll never find a girl as good as her to be his wife; he’ll never get to be the father he never had.

He goes home, crying. He finds his gun and loads it. And he rushes back to the mall with blood in his eyes.

Samseau admitted that, aside from the bit about Kozak’s father being absent in his life, he made all this up.

I cannot prove if the above is true, but based on my understanding of beta-male psychology raised by single-mothers, and feminist psychology, the above is probably very accurate. 

He added, a little surprisingly, that

I do not think this man was justified to murder. He must be imprisoned.

After this moment of lucidity, Samseau went on to add a “but” that rendered it moot.

But the amount of self-control it would have taken him not to snap was more than an average man could handle; indeed it would have required a Saint-like amount of virtue to not blow up after having his life completely destroyed.

Paraphrasing a line from a creepy short story by Roosh in which a young female journalist is stalked and killed by a man she “got fired,” Samseau declares that “Alex’s only crime was being average.”

Who knew that “being average” involved committing premeditated murder?

So far, it’s looking like Samseau’s imagined scenario doesn’t bear much resemblance to what actually happened.  A cousin of Farrington told a reporter that the murdered woman had confided in her about Kozek’s alleged stalkerish behavior,

saying several times that he had engaged in disturbing behavior toward her for at least the past six weeks. …

Kozak would stare at her while she was working, leave notes on her car and “just be scary and weird.”

“She was scared that he knew so much about her,” Dayton said.

While no one else on the Roosh V forum comes quite as close to outright endorsing the murder as Ziltoid and Samseau, others make the familiar argument — which I discussed in more detail in my post yesterday about would-be cop killer James Boulware –that outbursts of this sort of male rage are a sign, not of the often toxic versions of masculinity that our society still promotes, but of too much feminism.

Red_Pillage returned with this, er, analysis:

Society is churning out weak men with no masculine guidance by the truckload. Add to that the social ramifications of unrestrained and optimized hypergamy, what you get is men with nowhere to turn. That masculine energy will express itself in destructive ways if it is not channeled properly.

There’s gonna be a lot more Elliot Rodger’s coming down the pike. Now in this case the guy apparently wasn’t an incel, but I would be willing to bet that his murderous rage came from (at least in part) sexual frustration coupled with losing his job.

In Rooshland, of course, sexual frustration is ultimately the fault of women for not giving men the sex they “need.”

Suits, meanwhile, wondered

how often are we going [to] be seeing this happen in a society that criminalizes normal male behaviour?

I suppose it’s not surprising that fans of Roosh — who seriously argued several months ago that legalizing rape (on private property) would end rape — would think that the only way to protect women from creepy harassers would be to stop enforcing the rules, and the laws, against harassment, so as not to piss the harassers off.

That’s a bit like arguing we should abolish laws against murders because murderers sometimes threaten or kill witnesses to their crimes.

Sexual harassment may be disturbingly common, and once upon a time it was indeed considered more or less “normal male behavior.” (Look at any old magazine from the 1950s or 1960s to see endless variations on the comedic trope of the middle-aged businessman chasing his buxom young secretary around his desk.) But that doesn’t make it right.

The fact that laws against harassment make some men very, very angry isn’t proof that these laws are bad. It’s proof that some men still think they have a right to use predatory strategies in their pursuit of “bangs.” And that’s why we have these laws to begin with.

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sparky
sparky
9 years ago

A woman was murdered. So let’s focus all our sympathy on the real victim here, her murderer! /s

There literally is no bottom to this barrel o’ shit.

Xanith
Xanith
9 years ago

Hmm, so people on Roosh’s forum are trying to claim that this dude didn’t really do anything that bad and was only guilty of not living up to standards of being attractive?

Very hypocritical considering that redpillers and pua types are always criticizing women who don’t live up to their personal beauty standards and Roosh has even suggested that women who cut their hair short are mentally ill.

Who was it who wants to punish people for not being attractive enough?

mcjuliek
mcjuliek
9 years ago

Right — totally understandable, because if you get fired, murdering somebody is absolutely the best possible way of finding a new job. Sure.

If men really were like the MRA vision of them, you would never have a man in charge of anything anywhere ever. Because you couldn’t trust anything delicate and important — nuclear launch codes, say — to a bunch of immature sex-crazed rage bombs just itching to go off at the slightest perceived insult.

alaisvex
alaisvex
9 years ago

I’m not surprised that they think that killing her was understandable. I’m sure that they understand feeling fear and anger when a woman stands up for herself all too well.

RC
RC
9 years ago

I still get over the fact that these kind of people use terms like ‘alpha’ and ‘beta’ unironically in regards to human beings. Humans are social animals, yes, but there is not instinctual, hierarchical pack mentality, or an instinctual desire to submit to a more dominant person, like you see among a lot of strict pack animals. Strong personalities do tend to dominate groups of people, but trying to define them within the realm of ‘alpha’ and ‘beta’ and whatever else you’d do with packs of animals is just, inaccurate and dumb. Human social and societal structures are just, a completely different ballgame from other social and/or pack animals.

Also, they seem to completely misunderstand what the alpha and beta members of a pack, and their relationship to the structure of a pack actually are. Betas are not, like, inferior pack members that are weak, or helpless or defective. They just weren’t quite strong enough, or quick enough to beat out the current alpha for control during the last dominance event. A lot of the time, it’s the betas and lower pack members who actually handle most of the hunting, group defense and child-rearing that keeps the pack going along. And, let’s not forget, it is a beta who will eventually kill or drive off the current alpha to take control over the pack. Then they become the alpha. Among animals, this concept is not some sort of hard, fast, etched in stone hierarchy of ‘superior’ animals and ‘inferior’ animals. It’s all very fluid and the differences between different animals of a pack tend to be fairly minor.

I guess I need to try and express this in these peoples’ native tongue. Umm, err…. Learn to biology brah. Do you even science?

Krib
Krib
9 years ago

@RC
They can’t even stick to their “biotruths”
They’re all like “Men are obviously stronger than women, but we need protection from the evil feeeemales!”
MRAs, please go read a biology textbook for fucks stake.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

I’d like to hear what the manosphere definition of sexual harassment actually is. Is there anything they would consider legit sexual harassment? Probably not.

It’s funny how they seem to think that unemployment automatically means wives divorce husbands. Financial stresses can certainly contribute to break ups, but not because all women are golddiggers. Because it’s stressful! But that doesn’t mean wives immediately drop their husbands just because he lost his job. If his wife was so hypergamous, she probably wouldn’t have married a security guard in the first place.

BritterSweet
BritterSweet
9 years ago

If I knew about this before I went out shopping today, I would have gone to the nearest sporting goods store and bought a punching bag and a bat. Then set it up for a beatdown in the garage. That’s a far more acceptable outlet for rage than fuckin’ murdering someone!

There’s gonna be a lot more Elliot Rodger’s coming down the pike. Now in this case the guy apparently wasn’t an incel, but I would be willing to bet that his murderous rage came from (at least in part) sexual frustration coupled with losing his job.

Sounds like a threat there.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/14/149324/3559348-6762883291-glare.gif

ColeYote
ColeYote
9 years ago

So lemme get this straight; they think a man who would murder a woman for reporting sexual harassment is above committing sexual harassment.

TRP, just… fuck you.

Biot (on a different browser this time)
Biot (on a different browser this time)
9 years ago

I don’t have the time or the energy to write out a long-ish comment, but I’m a resident in the county where this happened (Johnson County) and I had a creeping feeling yesterday that the TRPers would start saying shit like this.
Just…URGH. It was a kick in the gut to hear that a security guard had shot an employee and then fled down I-80 (he got caught in or around Davenport from what I heard) on Friday night. My family had a shared feeling that this involved stalking when his history of sexual harassment was brought to light, and now THIS nonsense begins.
…I’ll end my post now before I get too ranty.

Mari
Mari
9 years ago

Biot, I’m just north of you in Linn County. The discussions locally are all churning the usual gun rights and mental illness arguments fruitlessly. I’ve heard very little addressing this as what it was — sexual harassment that escalated to murder.

This is also the second public murder of a woman in the area recently. A man stabbed his ex-girlfriend in a grocery store parking lot, in front of her young child.

Our culture is so accustomed to men killing women who had the temerity to reject them that people can’t even see what the real pattern is.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Has anyone ever heard of an act of violence against women being prosecuted as a hate crime? I believe gender is covered under the legislation. A quick Wikipedia search seems to confirm this. But I have never in my life heard of someone being prosecuted for an anti-woman hate crime. Not once.

alaisvex
alaisvex
9 years ago

@WWTH,

I think that they’d consider any of their tactics to be sexual harassment if a black man did it. Otherwise, no, they probably wouldn’t consider anything to be sexual harassment.

deniseeliza
deniseeliza
9 years ago

I got fired once. I got over it.

Krib
Krib
9 years ago

They would consider it sexual harassment and a hate crime if a black man did it.

sevenofmine
9 years ago

It all comes back (again) to these shits pretending not to understand consent. Harassment is any behavior you won’t stop when asked and that’s exactly what pisses these guys off. It’s not that they can’t figure out which behaviors are OK and which aren’t because femicommunazis have muddied the waters so much. It’s that they object to having to respect women’s boundaries.

autosoma
9 years ago

Reading the attitudes and mindsets if these redpill fools makes grrrrr! so much.

I don’t know even where to start. There mentality must be similar to the Roman coming out of the Colosseum after a particularly bloodthirsty day. That’s the nearest I can equate it to.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
9 years ago

What sevenofmine said, to which I’d add:

Men are socialised, in large part, to view the crossing of others’ boundaries as a dominant act (and to view dominant acts as being admirable.) Being told that they have to respect others’ boundaries therefore means that they are no longer dominant, with all that that entails. To men who have no internal locus of self-worth, this is some terrifying stuff; and so women having boundaries comes off as a real threat.

It’s a messed up situation.

Bernardo Soares
Bernardo Soares
9 years ago

God, these fucking creeps and their creepy creep-excusing shit. Brain bleach, anyone?
http://www.kongregate.com/games/thepixelhunt/til-cow-tear-us-apart

Spindrift
Spindrift
9 years ago

These guys’ concept of a “normal” or average man is seriously disturbing. The projection is so strong with this lot.

If this were normal male behaviour that’s to be expected from men when they lose their jobs, then every time a company lays off a bunch of (male) employees you’d have a massive murder spree to clean up. You wouldn’t be able to fire any men ever, even if you had good cause to fire them, without the threat of murder. Makes it sound like it’d be far safer for your business to only hire women, that’s for sure.

The manosphere: internet’s greatest source of misandry.

StarStorm
9 years ago

Yeah, see… if anyone makes the case that men are too dangerous for society, it’s not feminists making it. It’s these assholes, right here.

Lynn
Lynn
9 years ago

So there is nothing wrong with murdering a young woman who didn’t want to have sex with this guy? Fuck that logic.

I wish someone would murder all these red pills and get them the fuck off this planet for good. People like this don’t deserve to live, plain and simple.

Moocow
Moocow
9 years ago

Ugh, that imaginary ‘backstory’ to justify his actions makes me want to throw up.

Dear ROK, FUCK OFF with this ‘lack of a father figure’ nonsense. It’s such an insulting assumption to single mothers everywhere. Do they believe the gender flipped version of that is true as well? That some girl will grow up damaged unless she has a ‘mother figure’?

sevenofmine
9 years ago

Also this paragraph from the OP:

What the fuck is this. How am I supposed to keep my wife now?

Dude, you didn’t purchase your wife. Nobody is going to come repossess her because you couldn’t keep up the payments.

How can we have children if I have no income? What am I supposed to do now?

This is the part where you go look for another job. You know, like everyone else does when they find themselves unemployed? Besides, if you’re actually stumped by this, you’re probably not parent material anyway.

I DID NOTHING WRONG!! THAT FUCKING BITCH! THAT STUPID WHORE! I KNOW WHO DID THIS. SHE THINKS I’M A SEXUAL HARASSER?”

This seems like a proportional response to you, does it? Clearly it was totally unreasonable of that stupid whore to be uncomfortable with the attentions of such a level-headed and gentle creature.

sn0rkmaiden
9 years ago

I notice none of the redpillers seem to be bothered by the fact this was a married man going around trying to hit on women where he worked?

That said I feel very sorry for his wife, I find it hard to believe this was an easy man to live with.

RIP Andrea Farrington 🙁