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Man kills woman said to have reported him for sexual harassment; Red Pillers “find it hard to blame him.”

Friends and family remember Andrea Farrington, who was murdered on
Friends and family remember Andrea Farrington

On Friday, security guard Alexander Kozak was reportedly fired from his job at the Coral Ridge Mall in Iowa. According to news accounts, Kozak, a self-identified “born free, gun toting, Constitution loving American,” returned home, retrieved a handgun, then returned to the mall, where he shot and killed a young woman named Andrea Farrington, with whom he was reportedly obsessed.

A local radio station reported that Kozak was fired

due to complaints of sexual harassment of store employees. It’s believed he targeted the woman, who reportedly worked at the Iowa Children’s Museum, because her complaint was the last in a series and led to his firing.

Over on the Roosh V forum, an online hangout for “Red Pillers” and fans of the repugnant pickup artist and rape legalization proponent, some of the regulars are “finding it hard to blame” Kozak for the murder.

Despite knowing even less about the case than what I’ve posted above, one commenter, going by the name Ziltoid, concluded that Kozak had probably been guilty of nothing more serious than offending the victim’s delicate sensitivities.

Like rape, does the term sexual harassment prettymuch no longer have any real meaning?
IE it’s safe to assume there’s no chance this guy actually touched her or said anything overtly lewd?

As somebody who’s been job hunting for some time now picturing being fired, in this job market, over some twit finding you “creepy”… Sad to say I’m finding it hard to blame him.

While a number of commenters found Ziltoid’s justification of outright murder a bit creepy in themselves — one urged him to “[p]lease don’t ever leave your house” — others agreed that Kozak was guilty of nothing more than being unattractive to women.

Given the lack of details regarding the allegations, it is safe to assume he did not touch or proposition these women. Simply put, he was guilty of having no game and/or being creepy. … 

As far as I’m concerned, his being guilty of not giving these bitches the tingles is what caused him to get fired, and in turn, murder this chick.

Samseau, one of the more active commenters on Roosh’s site, concocted an elaborate hypothetical scenario in which “Alex [Kozak]’s only crime was being average.” As Samseau sees it, Kozak was probably fired for something as trivial as telling a mall customer she looked “beautiful.”

He bases this on a news report saying that Kozak, who took his wife’s last name when he married last fall, was raised by a single mother.

[A]fter examining the above facts here is the most likely conclusion:

He wasn’t being rude to anyone on his job. He wasn’t trying to be a pick-up artist on the job and shitting where he eats. His ‘prior-complaints leading up to his firing’ are almost certainly trumped-up charges. His crime? Being a beta male raised without a father and a domineering mother.

After he was fired for no good reason, as Samseau imagines it,

this poor man, who receives such injustice is immediately filled with burning rage; all of the issues of his childhood neglect well-up inside of him, and he stops thinking rationally.

“What the fuck is this. How am I supposed to keep my wife now? How can we have children if I have no income? What am I supposed to do now? I DID NOTHING WRONG!! THAT FUCKING BITCH! THAT STUPID WHORE! I KNOW WHO DID THIS. SHE THINKS I’M A SEXUAL HARASSER?”

Alex believes his life is over. He knows he won’t find another job; it took him nearly a year to find this one. He won’t find another girl; he’s already balding and his current wife is so beautiful to him it is impossible to imagine life without her. He already knows he’ll never find a girl as good as her to be his wife; he’ll never get to be the father he never had.

He goes home, crying. He finds his gun and loads it. And he rushes back to the mall with blood in his eyes.

Samseau admitted that, aside from the bit about Kozak’s father being absent in his life, he made all this up.

I cannot prove if the above is true, but based on my understanding of beta-male psychology raised by single-mothers, and feminist psychology, the above is probably very accurate. 

He added, a little surprisingly, that

I do not think this man was justified to murder. He must be imprisoned.

After this moment of lucidity, Samseau went on to add a “but” that rendered it moot.

But the amount of self-control it would have taken him not to snap was more than an average man could handle; indeed it would have required a Saint-like amount of virtue to not blow up after having his life completely destroyed.

Paraphrasing a line from a creepy short story by Roosh in which a young female journalist is stalked and killed by a man she “got fired,” Samseau declares that “Alex’s only crime was being average.”

Who knew that “being average” involved committing premeditated murder?

So far, it’s looking like Samseau’s imagined scenario doesn’t bear much resemblance to what actually happened.  A cousin of Farrington told a reporter that the murdered woman had confided in her about Kozek’s alleged stalkerish behavior,

saying several times that he had engaged in disturbing behavior toward her for at least the past six weeks. …

Kozak would stare at her while she was working, leave notes on her car and “just be scary and weird.”

“She was scared that he knew so much about her,” Dayton said.

While no one else on the Roosh V forum comes quite as close to outright endorsing the murder as Ziltoid and Samseau, others make the familiar argument — which I discussed in more detail in my post yesterday about would-be cop killer James Boulware –that outbursts of this sort of male rage are a sign, not of the often toxic versions of masculinity that our society still promotes, but of too much feminism.

Red_Pillage returned with this, er, analysis:

Society is churning out weak men with no masculine guidance by the truckload. Add to that the social ramifications of unrestrained and optimized hypergamy, what you get is men with nowhere to turn. That masculine energy will express itself in destructive ways if it is not channeled properly.

There’s gonna be a lot more Elliot Rodger’s coming down the pike. Now in this case the guy apparently wasn’t an incel, but I would be willing to bet that his murderous rage came from (at least in part) sexual frustration coupled with losing his job.

In Rooshland, of course, sexual frustration is ultimately the fault of women for not giving men the sex they “need.”

Suits, meanwhile, wondered

how often are we going [to] be seeing this happen in a society that criminalizes normal male behaviour?

I suppose it’s not surprising that fans of Roosh — who seriously argued several months ago that legalizing rape (on private property) would end rape — would think that the only way to protect women from creepy harassers would be to stop enforcing the rules, and the laws, against harassment, so as not to piss the harassers off.

That’s a bit like arguing we should abolish laws against murders because murderers sometimes threaten or kill witnesses to their crimes.

Sexual harassment may be disturbingly common, and once upon a time it was indeed considered more or less “normal male behavior.” (Look at any old magazine from the 1950s or 1960s to see endless variations on the comedic trope of the middle-aged businessman chasing his buxom young secretary around his desk.) But that doesn’t make it right.

The fact that laws against harassment make some men very, very angry isn’t proof that these laws are bad. It’s proof that some men still think they have a right to use predatory strategies in their pursuit of “bangs.” And that’s why we have these laws to begin with.

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Elaine
Elaine
9 years ago

I find it incredibly disturbing that even one person endorsed the murder of this young woman because she reported Kozak’s sexual harassment. Their need to justify their neanderthal thinking and behavior is frightening.

Snuffy
Snuffy
9 years ago

Of course they sympathize with a murderer.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
9 years ago

RIP Andrea Farrington.

Krib
Krib
9 years ago

What terrible people, condoning sexual harassment _and_ murder!
What disgusting excuses for human beings!

AltoFronto
AltoFronto
9 years ago

Even if the the economy is stacked against the average jobseeker at the moment, in what universe does the prospect of unemployment constitute “having his life completely destroyed” and a sufficient incentive to kill a person?
In what reality does a man have time to go home, retrieve a weapon, drive back, and seek out a particular victim, and still get to use a “crime of passion” defense?

What the fuck kind of “masculine guidance” do these guys think will prevent further tragedies? Because it sure ain’t the Red Pill. Holy crap, do these guys lack a healthy perspective on life in general.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

…Imma gonna go back to the thread with the ecology and kittens and wolves, kthnxbye.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/Itzfridaaay.gif

Miss Andry
9 years ago

As somebody who’s been job hunting for some time now picturing being fired, in this job market, over some twit finding you ‘creepy’… Sad to say I’m finding it hard to blame him.

Mhmm, yeah, sure, it’s just because a guy is unattractive. If he were only conventionally attractive then his otherwise creepy behavior would be fine. Are they ever going to learn that this supposed persecution of “beta males” with “no game” isn’t real outside the confines of an SNL sketch?

Bina
Bina
9 years ago

Like rape, does the term sexual harassment prettymuch no longer have any real meaning?

No, it still means something. The problem isn’t words losing their meanings, it’s ignorant fucks like this one ignoring their meanings.

IE it’s safe to assume there’s no chance this guy actually touched her or said anything overtly lewd?

Nope, it’s not safe to ASSume anything of the sort. But it IS safe to assume that she was right to fear him, and that he was, in fact, deeply creepy. Who else but a violent, murderous creep would do such a thing in response to being fired for harassment?

Given the lack of details regarding the allegations, it is safe to assume he did not touch or proposition these women. Simply put, he was guilty of having no game and/or being creepy.

No, it’s not safe to ASSume that, either. See above. And a “lack of details” does NOT mean you get to fill in the blanks with your own idiocy, either.

As far as I’m concerned, his being guilty of not giving these bitches the tingles is what caused him to get fired, and in turn, murder this chick.

Broad hint, dude: you referring to half the human race as animals (“bitches”, “chicks”) and ASSuming that a mere lack of sexual attraction on HER part was to blame for HIS violence…IS THE PROBLEM.

He wasn’t being rude to anyone on his job. He wasn’t trying to be a pick-up artist on the job and shitting where he eats. His ‘prior-complaints leading up to his firing’ are almost certainly trumped-up charges. His crime? Being a beta male raised without a father and a domineering mother.

Nope. He was pursuing and harassing women on the job, and killing one of them for reporting him to the authorities. That’s what his crime was. There were multiple witnesses to attest that he did what he was charged with doing.

Funny, too, how they keep erasing MURDER from his record of misdeeds. It’s like killing a woman doesn’t really count, or something!

this poor man, who receives such injustice is immediately filled with burning rage; all of the issues of his childhood neglect well-up inside of him, and he stops thinking rationally.

“What the fuck is this. How am I supposed to keep my wife now? How can we have children if I have no income? What am I supposed to do now? I DID NOTHING WRONG!! THAT FUCKING BITCH! THAT STUPID WHORE! I KNOW WHO DID THIS. SHE THINKS I’M A SEXUAL HARASSER?”

Alex believes his life is over. He knows he won’t find another job; it took him nearly a year to find this one. He won’t find another girl; he’s already balding and his current wife is so beautiful to him it is impossible to imagine life without her. He already knows he’ll never find a girl as good as her to be his wife; he’ll never get to be the father he never had.

He goes home, crying. He finds his gun and loads it. And he rushes back to the mall with blood in his eyes.

Dude. Please don’t quit your day job to write fiction. You suck at it.

But at the same time, your projected version of his “probable” thoughts sure does reveal a lot about you. Especially the ALL FUCKING CAPS shit.

I cannot prove if the above is true, but based on my understanding of beta-male psychology raised by single-mothers, and feminist psychology, the above is probably very accurate.

Or maybe it’s all just your own violent masturbatory fantasy, based on no expertise other than your own wankery. That ever occur to you, sonnyboy?

But the amount of self-control it would have taken him not to snap was more than an average man could handle; indeed it would have required a Saint-like amount of virtue to not blow up after having his life completely destroyed.

LOLwut? His life was NOT “completely destroyed”. This was a temporary setback that HE blew out of proportion, and decided that a woman’s life was a fair price for his own relatively mild humiliation. Guys have a lot less difficulty getting decent-paying jobs than women do, actually. Even guys with criminal records. This guy didn’t have the “virtue” of even an average man, he was a hair-triggered human bomb, just looking for an excuse to go off! And he did. Stop putting average men down as walking violent criminals, you dim-witted shitclot.

Society is churning out weak men with no masculine guidance by the truckload. Add to that the social ramifications of unrestrained and optimized hypergamy, what you get is men with nowhere to turn. That masculine energy will express itself in destructive ways if it is not channeled properly.

WRONG, MOTHERFUCKER. Society is churning out a bunch of machos with a libertarian might-makes-right mindset, and easy access to murder weaponry, thanks to the gun lobby (the NRA being a manufacturers’ lobby, profit-minded to a deadly degree). There is no “unrestrained and optimized hypergamy” at work here, it’s just the usual suspects: machismo and unchecked capitalism at work. If anything, the entitled mindset of this guy is all too typical: he’s recently married, and he STILL feels within his rights to chase women, even ones who want nothing to do with him? And to shoot them dead when they make it abundantly clear that his “advances” are not welcome, and indeed frightening? That’s not “nowhere to turn”, that’s just what one gets when it’s men being encouraged to be the constant seducer…and to rape whomever won’t come to them willingly…and kill when the woman reports them for trying to assault her.

There’s gonna be a lot more Elliot Rodger’s coming down the pike. Now in this case the guy apparently wasn’t an incel, but I would be willing to bet that his murderous rage came from (at least in part) sexual frustration coupled with losing his job.

Fuckhead, PLEASE. Sexual frustration is grounds for a wank in the toilet, not a licence to murder. For fuck’s sake, come up with some fresh excuses, if you’re going to be making absurd and overblown claims, and shitty excuses for shitty people. Nobody’s sex drive is so strong that he absolutely MUST harass women not his wife, OR murder them for noncompliance! Do you have any idea how idiotic you sound just suggesting such things?

And if there are any more Elliot Rodgers in the works (Goddess forbid!), I hope they get caught and stopped before they harm anyone. Including themselves.

And finally:

how often are we going [to] be seeing this happen in a society that criminalizes normal male behaviour?

Why is harassment, rape and even murder CONSTANTLY being excused as “normal male behavior”??? And how fucking fucked-up do you have to be to believe that these things are normal? Most men know better (or SHOULD) than to do these things, much less blame their oh-so-macho-manly testosterone count for them! Things that scare the shit out of women (who are not stupid, fragile or cowardly, contrary to popular stereotypes) SHOULD be criminalized. And they should NOT be normalized.

The fact that these guys want to normalize criminal behavior, and minimize the harm of it, even when it leads to murder, tells me that not only are they no intellectual giants, they are themselves a danger to society.

Improbable Joe (@ImprobableJoe)

The whole thing is evil and ridiculous, but this times I’m especially horrified by the blatant misandry of the MRA crowd. Men, according to them, are emotionally-stunted monsters who cannot control their sex drives at all. Therefore all “real men” are just one rejection away from committing murder, instead of the near-infinite other ways they could potentially deal with not having sex with anyone they fixate on.

AltoFronto
AltoFronto
9 years ago

Also, are these murderers “outliers” with some special quality diagnosed over the Internet which makes them killers and therefore Not All Men, or are they ordinary men simply exhibiting “normal male behaviour”? Which is it, RedPillers?

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

@Improbable Joe

Hey, Dick! 😀

Improbable Joe (@ImprobableJoe)

@Pandapool

Hi Jackie!

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
9 years ago

Bina, that was magnificent. Thank you.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

That reminds me, I haven’t checked on Tiny Dick Adventures in a while. I am a horrible human being.

sylviaplant
sylviaplant
9 years ago

@ImprobableJoe:

MRAs have the grimmest view of men, because they project.

Kate
Kate
9 years ago

the unemployment rate in Iowa is below the national average and in the county where this took place it’s like 2.4 % or something close to that. Losing his job doesn’t automatically mean that his life is ruined. Murdering someone, though, has probably ruined his life.

Ugh. This murder was awful and tragic and there is no justification for it.

RIP, Andrea Farrington.

prohass
9 years ago

The guy had a young, conventionally attractive wife who shared his right wing views. He could’ve gone home to complain to her and gotten another job as he was young and it’s not like she ruined his promising career in mall security forever, instead he executed a terrified woman.

He wasn’t some Elliot roger Incel,so even by MRAs own warped standards he doesn’t fit their narrative of rejected and hopeless beta

Aunt Edna
Aunt Edna
9 years ago

What Bina said.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

Okay, super off topic, but Bethesda is doing their E3 presentation right now and it’s live on YouTube is anyone is interested.

Improbable Joe (@ImprobableJoe)

@sylviaplant

I know… they pretend everyone else is as bad as they are, so that they’re justified in being evil “in return”

alaisvex
alaisvex
9 years ago

Society is churning out weak men with no masculine guidance by the truckload. Add to that the social ramifications of unrestrained and optimized hypergamy, what you get is men with nowhere to turn. That masculine energy will express itself in destructive ways if it is not channeled properly.

There’s gonna be a lot more Elliot Rodger’s coming down the pike. Now in this case the guy apparently wasn’t an incel, but I would be willing to bet that his murderous rage came from (at least in part) sexual frustration coupled with losing his job.

Oh, my dear Mr. Red Pillage, there appears to have been a terrible miscommunication between you and the Board of Rights and Privileges. We appear to have forgotten to send you our latest memo and have enclosed a copy to correct our egregious oversight. As you will see in the enclosed, even if you are attracted to a woman, she is not obligated to engage in sexual intercourse with you, no matter how nicely you ask or how much money you have spent buying Mr. Daryush Valizadeh’s materials on the art of pick up. Again, we are terribly sorry that our memo informing you of this fact did not reach you in time. We apologize for our oversight and will be sure to update you in a more timely manner in the future.

Bina
Bina
9 years ago

Bina, that was magnificent. Thank you.

Aw shucks. You’re welcome! Here, have some adorable kitties:

https://youtu.be/C4yRjrsXEVA

…because after all that bile, I need to get a good taste in my mouth again.

Leela
Leela
9 years ago

FUCK.

That is all.

Just fuck every last person on this earth that thinks like that.

I don’t want to live on this planet anymore. 🙁

Dawn Incognito
Dawn Incognito
9 years ago

@Bina

dim-witted shitclot

That is a fantastic insult! I’m gonna try to work it into my repertoire 🙂

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