Categories
a woman is always to blame antifeminism beta males empathy deficit entitlement men who should not ever be with women ever misogyny PUA reactionary bullshit red pill rhymes with roosh sexual harassment sympathy for murderers

Man kills woman said to have reported him for sexual harassment; Red Pillers “find it hard to blame him.”

Friends and family remember Andrea Farrington, who was murdered on
Friends and family remember Andrea Farrington

On Friday, security guard Alexander Kozak was reportedly fired from his job at the Coral Ridge Mall in Iowa. According to news accounts, Kozak, a self-identified “born free, gun toting, Constitution loving American,” returned home, retrieved a handgun, then returned to the mall, where he shot and killed a young woman named Andrea Farrington, with whom he was reportedly obsessed.

A local radio station reported that Kozak was fired

due to complaints of sexual harassment of store employees. It’s believed he targeted the woman, who reportedly worked at the Iowa Children’s Museum, because her complaint was the last in a series and led to his firing.

Over on the Roosh V forum, an online hangout for “Red Pillers” and fans of the repugnant pickup artist and rape legalization proponent, some of the regulars are “finding it hard to blame” Kozak for the murder.

Despite knowing even less about the case than what I’ve posted above, one commenter, going by the name Ziltoid, concluded that Kozak had probably been guilty of nothing more serious than offending the victim’s delicate sensitivities.

Like rape, does the term sexual harassment prettymuch no longer have any real meaning?
IE it’s safe to assume there’s no chance this guy actually touched her or said anything overtly lewd?

As somebody who’s been job hunting for some time now picturing being fired, in this job market, over some twit finding you “creepy”… Sad to say I’m finding it hard to blame him.

While a number of commenters found Ziltoid’s justification of outright murder a bit creepy in themselves — one urged him to “[p]lease don’t ever leave your house” — others agreed that Kozak was guilty of nothing more than being unattractive to women.

Given the lack of details regarding the allegations, it is safe to assume he did not touch or proposition these women. Simply put, he was guilty of having no game and/or being creepy. … 

As far as I’m concerned, his being guilty of not giving these bitches the tingles is what caused him to get fired, and in turn, murder this chick.

Samseau, one of the more active commenters on Roosh’s site, concocted an elaborate hypothetical scenario in which “Alex [Kozak]’s only crime was being average.” As Samseau sees it, Kozak was probably fired for something as trivial as telling a mall customer she looked “beautiful.”

He bases this on a news report saying that Kozak, who took his wife’s last name when he married last fall, was raised by a single mother.

[A]fter examining the above facts here is the most likely conclusion:

He wasn’t being rude to anyone on his job. He wasn’t trying to be a pick-up artist on the job and shitting where he eats. His ‘prior-complaints leading up to his firing’ are almost certainly trumped-up charges. His crime? Being a beta male raised without a father and a domineering mother.

After he was fired for no good reason, as Samseau imagines it,

this poor man, who receives such injustice is immediately filled with burning rage; all of the issues of his childhood neglect well-up inside of him, and he stops thinking rationally.

“What the fuck is this. How am I supposed to keep my wife now? How can we have children if I have no income? What am I supposed to do now? I DID NOTHING WRONG!! THAT FUCKING BITCH! THAT STUPID WHORE! I KNOW WHO DID THIS. SHE THINKS I’M A SEXUAL HARASSER?”

Alex believes his life is over. He knows he won’t find another job; it took him nearly a year to find this one. He won’t find another girl; he’s already balding and his current wife is so beautiful to him it is impossible to imagine life without her. He already knows he’ll never find a girl as good as her to be his wife; he’ll never get to be the father he never had.

He goes home, crying. He finds his gun and loads it. And he rushes back to the mall with blood in his eyes.

Samseau admitted that, aside from the bit about Kozak’s father being absent in his life, he made all this up.

I cannot prove if the above is true, but based on my understanding of beta-male psychology raised by single-mothers, and feminist psychology, the above is probably very accurate. 

He added, a little surprisingly, that

I do not think this man was justified to murder. He must be imprisoned.

After this moment of lucidity, Samseau went on to add a “but” that rendered it moot.

But the amount of self-control it would have taken him not to snap was more than an average man could handle; indeed it would have required a Saint-like amount of virtue to not blow up after having his life completely destroyed.

Paraphrasing a line from a creepy short story by Roosh in which a young female journalist is stalked and killed by a man she “got fired,” Samseau declares that “Alex’s only crime was being average.”

Who knew that “being average” involved committing premeditated murder?

So far, it’s looking like Samseau’s imagined scenario doesn’t bear much resemblance to what actually happened.  A cousin of Farrington told a reporter that the murdered woman had confided in her about Kozek’s alleged stalkerish behavior,

saying several times that he had engaged in disturbing behavior toward her for at least the past six weeks. …

Kozak would stare at her while she was working, leave notes on her car and “just be scary and weird.”

“She was scared that he knew so much about her,” Dayton said.

While no one else on the Roosh V forum comes quite as close to outright endorsing the murder as Ziltoid and Samseau, others make the familiar argument — which I discussed in more detail in my post yesterday about would-be cop killer James Boulware –that outbursts of this sort of male rage are a sign, not of the often toxic versions of masculinity that our society still promotes, but of too much feminism.

Red_Pillage returned with this, er, analysis:

Society is churning out weak men with no masculine guidance by the truckload. Add to that the social ramifications of unrestrained and optimized hypergamy, what you get is men with nowhere to turn. That masculine energy will express itself in destructive ways if it is not channeled properly.

There’s gonna be a lot more Elliot Rodger’s coming down the pike. Now in this case the guy apparently wasn’t an incel, but I would be willing to bet that his murderous rage came from (at least in part) sexual frustration coupled with losing his job.

In Rooshland, of course, sexual frustration is ultimately the fault of women for not giving men the sex they “need.”

Suits, meanwhile, wondered

how often are we going [to] be seeing this happen in a society that criminalizes normal male behaviour?

I suppose it’s not surprising that fans of Roosh — who seriously argued several months ago that legalizing rape (on private property) would end rape — would think that the only way to protect women from creepy harassers would be to stop enforcing the rules, and the laws, against harassment, so as not to piss the harassers off.

That’s a bit like arguing we should abolish laws against murders because murderers sometimes threaten or kill witnesses to their crimes.

Sexual harassment may be disturbingly common, and once upon a time it was indeed considered more or less “normal male behavior.” (Look at any old magazine from the 1950s or 1960s to see endless variations on the comedic trope of the middle-aged businessman chasing his buxom young secretary around his desk.) But that doesn’t make it right.

The fact that laws against harassment make some men very, very angry isn’t proof that these laws are bad. It’s proof that some men still think they have a right to use predatory strategies in their pursuit of “bangs.” And that’s why we have these laws to begin with.

164 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
zoob m (@zoobm)
9 years ago

I’m extremely offended that some people think extreme aggression is “normal male behavior”

Ghost Robot
Ghost Robot
9 years ago

Looking over Alexander Kozak’s FB page, I’m again reminded that there appears to be a correlation between being a right wing asshole and having a Facebook profile minimal-to-no privacy settings. It’s a constant barrage of right wing links, slogans, memes and generally agressive, mean-spirited garbage.

misseb47
misseb47
9 years ago

Once again these heartless MRA arseholes replay the old victim blaming, murder apologia lines. Who cares about the woman who got shot?! The gutless, entitled, creepy stalker of a murderer is the real victim here!! /snark. Someone has died! An innocent women whose only ‘crime’ was being the last of a potentially long list of women who have made complaints of sexual harassment against her killer. Of course, actually doing something about sexual harassment is a crime FAR worse than murder. /snark Excuse me while I vomit. It is always disappointing, rage inducing when they blame the victim and laud the murderer as a hero, but never surprising. There is simply nothing that these soulless cave dwelling Neanderthal douche nozzles will not excuse. They will do this again and again and again and again, WHILE SHOWING ABSOLUTELY ZERO REGARD TO THE VICTIM’S FAMILIES!!! It doesn’t matter how many innocent people die, or how they are killed-the MRA fucktards just don’t give a flying shit. These arseholes make me sick.

RIP Andrea Farrington. 🙁

Ellesar
Ellesar
9 years ago

You have to wonder if there is anything that these guys would not consider incitement to violence, when done by a woman, to a man, which doesn’t involve pleasing his boner?

For most of us (I am guessing) murder is ALWAYS unacceptable (as killing someone in self defence is not murder), PROFOUNDLY unacceptable. But here the bar is set SO LOW!

3 years ago I lost my last chance of a decent job, had a family bereavement, and was then diagnosed with cancer in the space of a year. Did this make me ‘boil over’ at the ‘unfairness’ of it all? Well no. I have not been a happy bunny, but not being a violent shitbrain, I have dealt with it without killing or *even* hurting anyone!

Whoever else said it – I absolutely agree – this is deeply insulting to men.

maistrechat
9 years ago
Reply to  Ellesar

re:odds of him getting away with this

In the county in Illinois where I live now, the conviction rate for felony offenses (which here means any crime with a potential prison sentence of more than 1 year) that go to trial is 97%.* The hurdle to jump before trial is getting at least 9 members of a grand jury to vote on an indictment, which requires that the State show probably cause only. Considering the circumstances of the crime that’s an incredibly low bar to clear. If the criminal justice system in Iowa is anything similar there’s virtually no chance of him getting acquitted or the charges being dropped.

*The cynic in me says that’s because the local Assistant State’s Attorneys don’t take cases to trial that they don’t know they can win. Given that one town around here is notorious for under-prosecuting and under-reporting in order to protect their reputation as a safe community it’s almost certainly a contributing factor.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Maistrechat,
What town is it that under reports? I’m just curious because I went to college in IL. So I might recognize it.

yutolia
9 years ago

One of the managers at a place I used to work at was sexually harassing all of the female employees. By the time he got around to me his actions had been reported 7 times!!! I guess 8 was what the company decided was unreasonable and finally canned him. But since Andrea Farrington was the last also I’m guessing the list of those before her is substantial. I really wish our society took these things more seriously!!

Catalpa
Catalpa
9 years ago

@Brandi Nemer mastain

It’s stunning how you all think that is ok.

Er, are you talking to the hypothetical redpillians that this post is showcasing? Your use of the word ‘you’, especially ‘you all’ instead of ‘they’ makes it sound like you’re talking to the commentariat of the blog and not the misogynists we’re stigmatizing…

This blog isn’t the one making excuses for the murderer, for the record. Quite the opposite.

emilygoddess - WHTM Mod
emilygoddess - WHTM Mod
9 years ago

Friendly mod reminder that “retard” and it’s derivatives (“fucktard”, etc) are considered slurs here and by community agreement we’d prefer people didn’t use them. Thanks.

sanford943
sanford943
9 years ago

From Ed Brayton’s blog

What ridiculous right-wing screed would be complete without invoking the Founding Fathers? But don’t worry. Schlafly says the American people are going to rise up and put a stop to this:
Phyllis Schlafly does not believe it will come to anything like that because “the American people won’t put up with it.”
It’s so adorable how the wingnuts convince themselves that the American people are on their side. It’s a claim that is utterly immune to evidence, like virtually everything else they believe. The American people support marriage equality by a pretty significant margin and that is only going to increase as people come to realize that the inane and hyperbolic predictions of demagogues like Gallups and Schlafly aren’t coming true.

[A]fter examining the above facts here is the most likely conclusion:

He wasn’t being rude to anyone on his job. He wasn’t trying to be a pick-up artist on the job and shitting where he eats. His ‘prior-complaints leading up to his firing’ are almost certainly trumped-up charges. His crime? Being a beta male raised without a father and a domineering mother.
Is there a more moronic phrase in the English language than “beta male”?

this poor man, who receives such injustice is immediately filled with burning rage; all of the issues of his childhood neglect well-up inside of him, and he stops thinking rationally.

“What the fuck is this. How am I supposed to keep my wife now? How can we have children if I have no income? What am I supposed to do now? I DID NOTHING WRONG!! THAT FUCKING BITCH! THAT STUPID WHORE! I KNOW WHO DID THIS. SHE THINKS I’M A SEXUAL HARASSER?”

Alex believes his life is over. He knows he won’t find another job; it took him nearly a year to find this one. He won’t find another girl; he’s already balding and his current wife is so beautiful to him it is impossible to imagine life without her. He already knows he’ll never find a girl as good as her to be his wife; he’ll never get to be the father he never had.

He goes home, crying. He finds his gun and loads it. And he rushes back to the mall with blood in his eyes.
I know — that poor man! That poor man who hates women so much that he murders them after sexually harassing them. Remember, these are the same people who defended Elliot Rodger when he decided to kill a bunch of women because they were outrageously not having sex with him. These people are 50 kinds of fucked up and dangerous.

maistrechat
9 years ago

WWTH:

I’m thinking specifically of Naperville but I’ve heard very similar stories about most of the really wealthy Chicago burbs.

Road to Servitude
9 years ago

Vile apologism by Roosh V users. And what the hell is “unrestrained and optimized hypergamy?” I don’t even know if real scientist use that term; it sounds like some “impressive” woo term used by people mask their aggression; no doubt unsuccesfully.

Modcow
Modcow
9 years ago

Two members of my family worked at Coral Ridge Mall during Kozak’s time there, one of them with Andrea at the children’s museum. A few weeks ago, we sat at my dining room table and talked about his creepy and predatory behavior toward several women at the mall. One of my family members shared that Kozak repeatedly asked her for her phone number, and when she refused him each time, told her she was a bitch. He sought out her sister at her separate workplace within the mall and and told her what a “fucking bitch” she was for turning him down. She was lucky that he was interested, he said. According to my family member who worked at the CM, he regularly hung around the kiosk where Andrea worked shifts and hit on the female employees there, despite being asked to stop. It is well known that he is a “creepy weirdo” (her words).

My spouse and I asked what was being done. Had Kozak been reported? Did someone with the power to improve the situation for the young women working at multiple sites within the mall know about his behavior? I’m sick now thinking of how I encouraged them to report. I know it was the right thing to do, but knowing now what I didn’t know then…

My “bitch” family member, for the record, is a conventionally attractive young blonde. So, it appears that Kozak had a type and a typical reaction to rejection – mysoginistic rage.

All my love goes to Andrea’s grieving family, coworkers, and friends, including my two beloved and shattered family members who are wondering why this had to happen, and why they were “lucky” enough to only be attacked with words.

Misogyny kills. Misogynists with guns kill with frightening ease.

Georgia
Georgia
9 years ago

Roosh must have the most fried brain on Earth. Legalising rape? So as to teach women to be more responsible and prevent their rape from happening? Retard, what about the flip side? Legalising rape will ENCOURAGE men to rape more, KNOWING they can do it without consequence, and suddenly you’ll find that there’s squat a woman can do to defend herself, no matter what she does. She can wear a potato sack and be the most responsible person on Earth and she’ll still get raped, because now she’ll have no law to defend her. Men on average are stronger than women. But maybe Roosh isn’t as brain-fried as he sounds (and looks). Maybe he KNOWS this, which is exactly WHY he advocates legalising rape. He’s one of those types of guys who would rape if he could, but is a coward because of the law. He hates having his hands tied like that. He sees society and women as somehow controlling him and curbing and dictating his “normal male behaviour”, which he really resents and can’t stand, and it’s so obvious. The guy should be nuked, along with his followers. Bunch of oxygen thieves.

1 5 6 7