Anyone who’s paid much attention to the growth of the “Red Pill” ideology in the manosphere is aware that many of the most fervent Red Pillers not only lean right politically, they lean so far right that they more or less look like this:
Only much less cute.
Well, now the Red Pillers on Reddit are just straight-up advocating Hitler’s policies on women during the Third Reich. Not just advocating traditionalist policies similar to what Hitler did. Literally saying that Germany today should literally adopt literal Hitler’s literal “solution” to the Woman Problem.
In a discussion of what the Red Pillers see as a disastrous drop in the birth rate in Germany, one commenter suggested that “Germany knows what it has to do, and Germany has demonstrated it is capable of doing it with cold, calculated German efficiency.”
He linked to a Wikipedia page on “Women in Nazi Germany,” which noted that
Women in the Third Reich lived within a regime characterized by a policy of confining women in the roles of mother and spouse and excluding them from all positions of responsibility, notably in the political and academic spheres.
Other Red Pillers thought this sounded fine and dandy, upvoting his comments and adding their own thoughts:
![[–]Piroko 17 points 12 hours ago Germany knows what it has to do, and Germany has demonstrated it is capable of doing it with cold, calculated German efficiency. The question is, will they? permalinkembedsavereportgive gold [–]HAMMURABl 31 points 12 hours ago* Trust me, Germany 2015 is like the opposite of Germany 1935. As op said, todays germany will push for more women working and more immigrants to counter the ever declining birth rate. The causal thinking of "more women working" » "less babies" can MAYBE be seen by the average german, but solutions of sort "women staying more at home would solve the demographic catastrophe" are completely anathema to him. Its like the germans cant find a stable midpoint, they have to go from one extreme to the other. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive gold [–]BloodyPhallus 16 points 11 hours ago I'm fascinated by what will happen in Germany. Will another leader arise to take back the country, or will it become a nation of towelhead nutjobs? Eighty years from a proud German people to a weak, castrated German people, will there be a German people in another eighty years?](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/redpillnazis.png?resize=531%2C562&ssl=1)
In case anyone is wondering, Piroko also
- is a big fan of Robert Heinlein’s Starship Troopers
- is NOT a big fan of women’s suffrage
- posts in KotakuInAction and the Men’s Rights subreddit
Apparently, to paraphrase an old WWII propaganda poster encouraging carpooling, when you post in the Red Pill subreddit, you post with Hitler.
H/T — r/thebluepill
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: If there’s such a thing as an MRA who isn’t a literal neo-Nazi, I’ve never heard of them.
He’s part of the Men’s Human Reich Movement.
If by “what Germany has to do” they mean “make Nazi speech illegal”, then yes, Germany knows what it has to do and has indeed done that. Being a Nazi is illegal in Germany. Just another reason why Germany is the Master Race most sensible place in Europe.
That was supposed to be crossout, not italics. Aaargh. I’m tired, I should go to bed.
i am so glad you read this crap on Reddit so I don’t have to.
I’ve really been trying to understand everyone’s viewpoints. But that’s hard it the face of such obvious sexism and racism.
I just think its hilarious that these guys jumped on Ian Miles Cheong and pretended to be scandalized that he told Nazi jokes when he was a teenager on 4chan, and then literally advocate for Nazi policies when they think nobody’s looking.
What is so terrible about 2015 Germany? It’s my understanding that they weathered the great recession better than most countries. They have one of the most productive economies with more exporting than most western countries and they have a pretty well educated populace. Not that I’m saying it’s a utopia or anything, and I’m sure they have plenty of problems I’m not aware of because I don’t live there.
But it doesn’t appear that letting brown people in the country and letting women do something other than breed white babies has caused any kind of dystopia in Germany. Well, it’s a dystopia if you are a Nazi I guess!
I’ll bet the dudes who made these posts aren’t even German. Maybe ethnically, but not nationality wise. They’re just invested in the racial purity of Germans because they’re Neo-Nazis. They aren’t really thinking about the economy or the quality of life there. Just the fact that Hitler’s goals have failed utterly. Gross.
Hi, new commenter. How ya’ll.
The thing that actually bothered me most about the subject of the post is the bit about one of these redditor’s liking of Heinlein. Been a few years since I’ve read Starship Troopers, and the movie may be more burned into my memory, but I recall it being a rather thick satire of war and and a war-obsessed culture than a rousing endorsement of it. Maybe that was mostly Verhoeven I’m remembering; I don’t know. I do know that Starship Troopers 3 had a pretty good premise involving an intensely religious military-nationalist pop star which the movie kind of squandered. Still a neat idea though.
Boom! High fives!
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Miss Andry, you win the thread.
Love the line “cold, calculated German efficiency”! How about “warm, impractical French laziness”? Or maybe “frozen, ordinary Canadian ambivalence”?
@Miss Andry – you made me spit pop out 😛 That was a great pun.
That being said, yeah, if there’s an MRA who isn’t a neo-nazi I haven’t seen them.
Hey David Futrelle, ReturnOfKings had made another article mentioning you
http://www.returnofkings.com/65249/5-modern-day-social-justice-warriors-who-would-have-been-institutionalized-in-the-past
score down to number five, I will love your response
Why do they always refer to David by his full name here?
@All
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Probably a good idea to post ReturnOfKings links through DoNotLink or archive.
Or not post them at all.@ rick:
I’m glad you asked!
Turns out the French have used their national virtues (such as they are) and common sense to promote motherhood in the best way imaginable — by (gasp) encouraging gender equality, along with women’s careers, and providing parents with tangible help in child rearing:
France’s baby boom secret: get women into work and ditch rigid family norms
Gender equality, pro-child policies and generous childcare provision are all bolstering French fertility rates rather than hindering them
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/21/france-population-europe-fertility-rate
They say this so casually… as if it’s only natural to prevent a whole group from working.
Have you ever noticed that they had to coin the word “feminazi” to minimize and insult feminism?
But that there’s never been any need to coin the word “misogynazi”?
Hoosier X, “misogynazi” looks good on paper. But spoken aloud it sounds creepily close to “massage a nazi”. Which I’m NOT going to do.
God that just makes me think of like if I were a masseuse and some actual nazi came in and had a swastika or something tattooed on his body. I think I might have to recuse myself lest I get violent.
Actually, the MRAs and their ilk are just “adult” men having a giant, public temper tantrum.
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@Miss Andry
Amazing. Love it.
From now on, MRA means “Men’s Reich Activist” and MRM “Men’s Reich Movement” whenever I use them. Remember that everyone.
Also, these days I hate that I have German ancestry, although I guess the Russian kinda cancel it out.
I’m kind of glad I have lots of German ancestry. So I can dishonor it (in manospherian eyes) by constantly misandering.
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