Over on A Voice for Men, a Man Going His Own Way named Frank Worley has unveiled a most immodest proposal: turning Puerto Rico, or at least a giant chunk of it, into a MGTOW nation. Yes, he’s serious. Also, an idiot.
As Worley sees it,
Women have used democracy to pressure our gutless politicians into surrendering our constitution, personal liberty and any semblance of due process. … Nothing male is sacred or protected.
Instead of trying to organize politically to fight the evil dispossession of men — who control only 80% of congressional seats in the United States — Worley wants to rip it up and start again.
The entrenched forces of Marxist Feminism and the cowardly politicians who cater to them, have taken all that is worthwhile from these once great and free nations. So what is left for those of us who seek only to be treated as equals under the law? …
The only immediate and complete solution to this problem is to concentrate our forces to create a majority in a single location so that WE become the state.
The “it” that will be ripped up? Puerto Rico, or at least its eastern third. Worley hopes to turn at least this portion of Puerto Rico into some sort of alimony-free libertarian island paradise for the MGTOWs of the world. Well, the MGTOWs of America. They have to have American citizenship for Worley’s, er, ingenious plan to work.
One of my early proposals was the establishment of a micro-independent state on the eastern third of Puerto Rico. The idea was to ask people who supported independence to move to one of several municipalities … and then vote for Mayors and council members who supported our program and then call a referendum. If the petition for independence was denied by Congress then simply declare independence recognizing what that might imply.
Never mind that most of the supporters of Puerto Rican independence today are lefty types who aren’t likely to be big fans of either the MGTOW or the “libertarian paradise” aspects of Worley’s proposal. All he needs is to get a few American MGTOWs to move to the eastern third of Puerto Rico. Like, say 25,000 of them.
To accomplish this micro independence I would need upwards of 25 thousand MGTOW’s to relocated to the specific areas and register to vote. … Any American citizen can move to Puerto Rico and vote and run for office and vote for independence.
Then, hey presto, a MGTOW nation in which “we write and enforce the laws without having to cow tow to the feminists.”
I’m sure the current residents of Puerto Rico will be thrilled to have tens of thousands of lady-hating white dudes show up overnight in an attempt to take over the government and declare themselves a MGTOW nation.
Also, the word is “kowtow.” “Cow towing” looks like this:
Worley, evidently taking inspiration from Starship Troopers, also declares that in this new nation, SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP.
The definition of being equal under the law in this proposal is service. Military or civilian part time service is required for all citizens and immigrants both to deny entry to those who would seek only benefits of the new country and also to eliminate all other constantly changing definitions of who is a ‘protected class.’ Complete your service and you are equal under the law; fail to complete and you are not.
Yes, I’m sure libertarians will flock to a country where they will be forced into government service if they want full citizenship.
Oh, and did I mention that Worley, by his own admission, doesn’t even speak Spanish very well?
On A Voice for Men, Worley’s proposal met with, well, let’s charitably call it a mixed reaction. While many were sympathetic, they weren’t exactly sure this was a very practical plan. Dean Esmay even felt the need to stick up a little note at the start of the post declaring that “AVfM neither endorses nor rejects this proposal.”
Hey, I can’t blame them. Given that AVFM is the most “activist” of all Men’s Rights organizations, and it just cancelled its much ballyhooed conference this year because organizing is just too darn hard, it is a little difficult to imagine MRAs or MGTOWs becoming organized enough to plan a picnic in the park much less take over a third of Puerto Rico, a US territory with 3.5 million inhabitants, a great number of whom live on the island’s eastern third.
And that’s not even taking into account the sabotage a would-be MGTOW nation would face from evil feminists.
Wow. The imaginary planet on which these guys live is a lot more entertaining than the planet Earth I live on.
I can’t help but think of the episode of The Simpsons in which Bart and his friends are stranded on a desert island, and Bart spells out his absurd vision of the paradise their island can become if they all work together:
Bart Simpson: And every night the monkey butlers will regale us with jungle stories.
Nelson: How many monkey butlers will there be?
Bart Simpson: One at first, but he’ll train others.
Good luck, fellas! Send a monkey butler over to let us know how this turns out.
EDIT: Also, if Puerto Rico doesn’t work out for you, why not try one of these lovely islands?
There’s a really simple solution to their problem and it wouldn’t involve moving or changing the laws of the US at all. Start a monastery. It has to be only lip service religious, they can exclude women all they want and live however they like inside. They might even be able to avoid taxes. The US is so religion friendly that it would be fairly trivial depending on the state, and a city like Detroit has large, incredibly cheap buildings for sale they could turn into a compound. Bonus: as a religious order they can discriminate on the basis of gender and keep out all the filthy hobbits-er girls.
Yup, David’s spreading the word! To…feminists. Who are all mocking your terrible, terrible idea.
And of course you don’t think it’s ‘misogynistic’! Please mansplain to us silly feeemales why your plan isn’t derived from your hatred of women because of some perceived slight (by which I mean we didn’t “cow tow” to you in your infinite manly wisdom because you have a penis)!
@Lea – Raising kids got me thinking about my beliefs, too. I started with my questioning the way my brother and were brought up (authoritarian lite); after I’d pitched that model out the window, I was only a babystep away from picking apart the rest of my inherited worldviews. Feminism was where I ended up. I spend more time angry now than I did when I blithely coasting along on my own special snowflake superiority. But it’s worth it. 🙂
Re: sn0rkmaiden’s delicious serving of Shrek6 nonsense –
Yes, I know when I’m bored with something I pour out six hundred plus words of invective so that I can denounce it properly. That’s the only way to deal with ennui.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to go weep because men like Shrek6 are withdrawing their favors from the next generation of women. I’ll never have a son in law of his caliber! My daughter will never know the joys of servitude to a superior, domineering asshat who thinks that everything she ever accomplishes is a gift from a weak-spirited man.
Oh, the humanity!
What if “my girls” are lesbian or asexual? What if they don’t want to get married? What if they don’t want to have kids? What if they don’t want to have sex with a “real human male”? What if I have sons instead?
What about science making it so I can make sperm from stem cells in my bone marrow? What about sperm banks?
What if I don’t want kids? What if I would only get married to a person with a gender other than male? What if I get married to a Male Feminist/Feminist Ally (which, let’s face it, would be a requirement)?
Oh wait, I forget that women don’t exist for Shrek if they’re not sucking his dick or making him angry by being, y’know, people, instead of sentient blow-up dolls.
What makes you think I’m a misogynist? Just because I think women are so awful I don’t even want to share a country with them? Geez!
So, you predicted that you would get called out for being an idiot? Good job!
Wow.
Thanks, David! I think this might be my favorite MRA story ever. It’s got all the usual and expected crazily moving parts that all of them do, and yet this one has so much more.
Like the unspoken assumption that if you want to make taking over a democratic society easy, you need to go to a democracy where brown skinned people live. (What do those people know of fancy-pants white-people politics, anyway?)
Or — I’m taking an educated guess here — the lack of understanding of the way US territories work, combined with — another educated guess — the assumption that a small group of MRAs could easily take on whatever they think Puerto Rico uses for an army, because — last educated guess — it’s not it’s going to be an army of white people, amiright?
Or the repeated use of the word “micro” that gives it that poli-sci/econ-y feel without actually meaning anything.
Or this: “I would need upwards of 25 thousand MGTOW’s to relocated to the specific areas and register to vote” — which might be the most casually thrown out real-life version “and then, magic” that I have ever seen.
Or the bizarre notion that the only reason their own towns can’t vote themselves independent states — sorry, *micro* states — is because they just can’t get quite enough votes.
Or the obvious lack of enough curiosity to google anything about Puerto Rico, to the point where they seem to think 25,000 bodies would be a HUGE electoral game changer (over three and a half million people live there). This is especially funny since they seem to have chosen that part of the country which has the island’s biggest cities (including San Juan), which makes me think they just said, “the Eastern third kinds sounds like a phrase that implies not a lot of people, so let’s go there.”
This was just fantastic. Thanks for sharing.
Since they’re talking about convincing people to move to Puerto Rico, I’m just gonna leave this here.
Spindrift
They remind me of Rifftrax.
http://youtu.be/GjyWvM1zQPw
@Fruitloopsie
They’re the same people that do Rifftrax, actually.
Spindrift
Oh good to know.
I expect Henry Ford’s attempt at a company town, Fordlândia, is still available. And thematically appropriate.
@Fruitloopsie
I’ve seen almost every single episode of MST3K. Pity it got cancelled.
But I guess if it hadn’t been cancelled there would be no rifftrax.
I always assumed Rifftrax fans were displaced Misties, but the show been off the air for 16 years, so it makes sense that they would need fresh blood at this point.
I’ve watched every MST3K episode an enormous number of times and in the mid-90s about 20% of my brain matter was made of MST3K references. It’s been a while since I watched it so the show no longer dominates my life, but I still randomly say “Gymkata” quite a bit.
This proposal to swarm Puerto Rico with 25,000 angry misogynists isn’t all that different from their usual tactic of brigading the comment section of every Jezebel article that mentions divorce.
I am sure this too will be rewarded with hearty upvotes from the native populace.
With my sister, BiL, and I it’s like a reflex. If you say “there you have it,” someone is guaranteed to say “a letter opener.”
I’ve not really checked out most of Rifftrax, think I prefer the focus to be entirely on bad movies. And I miss the bots, that’s probably the biggest reason.
Well, from a purely selfish viewpoint, this stuff is awesome, because it’s really helping with my sci-fi novel!
I do have to grab my lawyer-friend and find out what the implications of direct quotes would be? But if they’re direct quotes from a public messageboard in the past that the group in the novel is using as their ‘constitution’, then I’ve no idea if it’s legal or not.
. So most men will eventually buy out altogether and leave all you women alone, lonely and barren.
Definitely saving this for the novel!
@steampunked
Well, now that you’ve said that, everyone will know you’ve stolen it. You have to change it up a bit.
“The men will go, amassing for an exodus to a land free from female tyranny, leaving all the women alone, barren, lost – and to die.”
There, you can have that for free, ’cause I’m generous like that. Also it sucks and people will think you wrote it. :>
“I made it in shop class”. I can’t quit you MSt3K.
Pandapool – I don’t mind if they do, but it is awfully tempting to put the screen names under each quote so that the male-only planet’s(*) book of Apocrypha Relating to the Constitution can be gradually assembled…
A friend of mine read what I’d generated, but we were running into the problem that a) It wasn’t as violent as the MGTOW stuff – I was just being way too soft but b) People who had never come across them thought that it was way over the top (‘No one THINKS that about women,’ my poor father said, puzzled).
(*) I was nice, the MGTOWers even have immortality and Freedom from Scarcity under the Rule of Law for the system, which is that you can only gain access to the correct coding for eternal life if your entire species planet-side has no reproductive ability.
@steampunked
Maybe put it in a foreword about the MGTOW/AVfM/MRM shitstorm? As long as it’s short, people will read it. Or sprinkle in some real quotes in between chapters?
My whole family watched MSTK. Way back when it was still a MN show. I still kind of like the Joel episodes better because before it gained national popularity, their commentary was full of Minnesota references.
Excuse me while I go remember Paul Wellstone.
I don’t think we’ve ever had a single hiking trip where someone doesn’t do
“WATCH OUT FOR SNAKES!”
My favourite part is imagining how, decades hence, they would probably blame compulsory military service on feminists.
Yes, and the word is all “Ha ha ha, look at this stupid fool and his idiotic master plan.”
Also, the bad news is that the word is spreading. To Puerto Rico. Where they don’t exactly suffer foolish gringos gladly.
(Especially that Shrek6 dude, who sounds like he desperately needs an anger management course…NOT taught by Paulie.)