
Over on A Voice for Men, a Man Going His Own Way named Frank Worley has unveiled a most immodest proposal: turning Puerto Rico, or at least a giant chunk of it, into a MGTOW nation. Yes, he’s serious. Also, an idiot.
As Worley sees it,
Women have used democracy to pressure our gutless politicians into surrendering our constitution, personal liberty and any semblance of due process. … Nothing male is sacred or protected.
Instead of trying to organize politically to fight the evil dispossession of men — who control only 80% of congressional seats in the United States — Worley wants to rip it up and start again.
The entrenched forces of Marxist Feminism and the cowardly politicians who cater to them, have taken all that is worthwhile from these once great and free nations. So what is left for those of us who seek only to be treated as equals under the law? …
The only immediate and complete solution to this problem is to concentrate our forces to create a majority in a single location so that WE become the state.
The “it” that will be ripped up? Puerto Rico, or at least its eastern third. Worley hopes to turn at least this portion of Puerto Rico into some sort of alimony-free libertarian island paradise for the MGTOWs of the world. Well, the MGTOWs of America. They have to have American citizenship for Worley’s, er, ingenious plan to work.
One of my early proposals was the establishment of a micro-independent state on the eastern third of Puerto Rico. The idea was to ask people who supported independence to move to one of several municipalities … and then vote for Mayors and council members who supported our program and then call a referendum. If the petition for independence was denied by Congress then simply declare independence recognizing what that might imply.
Never mind that most of the supporters of Puerto Rican independence today are lefty types who aren’t likely to be big fans of either the MGTOW or the “libertarian paradise” aspects of Worley’s proposal. All he needs is to get a few American MGTOWs to move to the eastern third of Puerto Rico. Like, say 25,000 of them.
To accomplish this micro independence I would need upwards of 25 thousand MGTOW’s to relocated to the specific areas and register to vote. … Any American citizen can move to Puerto Rico and vote and run for office and vote for independence.
Then, hey presto, a MGTOW nation in which “we write and enforce the laws without having to cow tow to the feminists.”
I’m sure the current residents of Puerto Rico will be thrilled to have tens of thousands of lady-hating white dudes show up overnight in an attempt to take over the government and declare themselves a MGTOW nation.
Also, the word is “kowtow.” “Cow towing” looks like this:

Worley, evidently taking inspiration from Starship Troopers, also declares that in this new nation, SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP.
The definition of being equal under the law in this proposal is service. Military or civilian part time service is required for all citizens and immigrants both to deny entry to those who would seek only benefits of the new country and also to eliminate all other constantly changing definitions of who is a ‘protected class.’ Complete your service and you are equal under the law; fail to complete and you are not.
Yes, I’m sure libertarians will flock to a country where they will be forced into government service if they want full citizenship.
Oh, and did I mention that Worley, by his own admission, doesn’t even speak Spanish very well?
On A Voice for Men, Worley’s proposal met with, well, let’s charitably call it a mixed reaction. While many were sympathetic, they weren’t exactly sure this was a very practical plan. Dean Esmay even felt the need to stick up a little note at the start of the post declaring that “AVfM neither endorses nor rejects this proposal.”
Hey, I can’t blame them. Given that AVFM is the most “activist” of all Men’s Rights organizations, and it just cancelled its much ballyhooed conference this year because organizing is just too darn hard, it is a little difficult to imagine MRAs or MGTOWs becoming organized enough to plan a picnic in the park much less take over a third of Puerto Rico, a US territory with 3.5 million inhabitants, a great number of whom live on the island’s eastern third.
And that’s not even taking into account the sabotage a would-be MGTOW nation would face from evil feminists.
Wow. The imaginary planet on which these guys live is a lot more entertaining than the planet Earth I live on.
I can’t help but think of the episode of The Simpsons in which Bart and his friends are stranded on a desert island, and Bart spells out his absurd vision of the paradise their island can become if they all work together:
Bart Simpson: And every night the monkey butlers will regale us with jungle stories.
Nelson: How many monkey butlers will there be?
Bart Simpson: One at first, but he’ll train others.
Good luck, fellas! Send a monkey butler over to let us know how this turns out.
EDIT: Also, if Puerto Rico doesn’t work out for you, why not try one of these lovely islands?
Two things.
1. They don’t like democracy, or basic human rights. Seriously. That’s their position.
2. They’re trying to do in reality the fictional thing they’re complaining about–abusing the democratic process to disenfranchise people: the residents of Puerto Rico. I think “projection and self-contradiction” should be the middle “free” square in MRA bingo cards, because those two things are constant features of the MRM.
I would be a-okay with them going to Antarctica. Hell, I’ll bet some countries will even ship them food out of pity.
Looks like there’s some steer towing happening as well.
hello! loooong time-lurker here..
Ok let’s say these guys do actually succeed in creating their MGTOW nation. Then what? At that point they wouldn’t be men going their own way. The ‘going’ part would have finally been accomplished and then whats the next step? is this why they never actually go anywhere because they’re all about the ”going” without having any real destination or goal?
If we do send them to a different island with no people I’m going to feel awfully sorry for the animals.
NO NO NO NO NO! FUCK NO! I DONT WANT THESE MOTHERFUCKERS RUINING MY ISLAND! HELL NO! THOSE ASSHOLES CAN GO FUCK THEMSELVES! THOSE MGTOWS BETTER STAY AWAY FROM MY ISLAND!
Can we just launch them into space already? That will solve all their problems and ours.
Also why is it that MGTOW can’t stop talking about women? If you hate women so much, shut up about them! Stop thinking about them and just form your own little butt fucking community the hell away from everyone else.
I’m reminded of another Simpsons quote, this one from the episode “Homer’s Enemy”:
Frank Grimes: “If you lived in any other country in the world, you’d have starved to death long ago.”
Good luck, dudes.
Are there, in fact, 25,000 MGOTWs in the US? I think I know the answer, but someone might have ballpark statistics…
(Remember, this proposal will only work for MGOTWs who are eligible for residency status in Puerto Rico.)
In fairness to them, we do already have evidence that women don’t want to go to Puerto Rico.
And double the irony with them complaining about how the feminists will just move in and push them out with numbers.
Yeah, how awful! Moving en masse to a place just so you can dominate the local politics? How dastardly will the feminists get?
Fucking lol.
I’ve been trying to make a witty remark, but the whole thing is just so ridiculous that I don’t even know where to begin. Everyone else has pretty much said it all already – even if they actually went ahead with it, it wouldn’t work and would be unfair to the inhabitants.
I’m gonna leave this right here:
For those who can’t understand Spanish, it’s a protest song in tribute to Filiberto Ojeda Ríos, a Puerto Rican independence activist who was killed by the FBI — shot several times, then left to bleed to death without medical attention. Appropriately, the video opens with a clip of Filiberto on TV, angrily asking how anyone could just let foreign meddlers barge into their home and take it over. It closes with another clip of him saying “long live FREE Puerto Rico”.
I’m glad I wasn’t drinking anything while I read this or you’d owe me a new laptop, David!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IL9a0t0U16E/VBjZf0NtT2I/AAAAAAAABK0/wd4BjigcZh0/s1600/daily-show-spit-take.gif
I’d like to know what exact constitutional rights feminists took from men. Serious question for any MGTOW that may decide to drop by.
A fact that has apparently not occurred to any of them. This guy seriously seems to think a bunch of sexist, racist, libertarian white douchebags would be welcomed with open arms. Sort of like how the Iraqis would surely welcome occupation by the US military!
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Why wouldn’t they choose an uninhabited island instead of proposing to annex Puerto Rico, seems as though that would have less legal/moral problems? These douchenozzles are entitled enough to think they can take over an established territory to build their no-girls-allowed fort.
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Because, really, there are only brown “people” in Puerto Rico anyway, and everyone knows they aren’t really “people” anyway, so can only be made better by having proper white Men there to look after them.
Remember, these are dudes who were proud of themselves for figuring out how to bake
chicken.
Off topic: but the manosphere is probably going to get up in arms about this. http://jezebel.com/nobel-prize-winning-scientist-resigns-after-making-sexi-1710521980
Uppity wimminz. Ruining important manly sciences again!
Oh yes, it’s always us with our irrationality, our falling in love and crying and seducing these guys with our impossible-not-to-stare-at boobies that are ruining science. Never these old turds who can’t get it through their heads that THEY are responsible for their own behaviors in a professional setting. Not women — THEM.
So they have to be ex-military and are trying to make an ideal nation for them. This sounds oddly familiar but I can’t quite put my finger on it. Well, at least they probably don’t have the capability of making a bipedal nuclear battle tank. Wonder if there is someone with possible ties to the leader of said nation that would take out said tank though.
Yay, CAFE has been permanently banned from participating in the Toronto Pride Parade.
🙂
It’s just like manospherians to try and horn their way in someplace they’re not wanted. Pride parades, Puerto Rico, feminist comment threads…Boundary issues. They has them.
If I had a dollar for every plan for a Libertarian/MRA/white supremacist utopia that never amounted to more than a spittle-flecked rant and a donation drive scam, I’d never have to work again.
@WWTH
I’ll take “Things that never happened” for $200, Alex!
Service is mandatory? But I thought manosphere guys hated the draft.
If I had the godly powers to instantly create an island by raising it up out of the ocean so no one will have already claimed it, I would. I would even be willing to magically make it habitable with all the fresh water and farmable land they need to survive if it means they will stay there forever and leave everyone else alone.
They don’t have to worry about feminists coming to them. If the other nations were to do anything, I’d bet they’d use their defense forces to make sure they stay on that island away from all women. After all, military service or civilian service is going to be required for all citizens, implying the MGTOWs want to have an army for something.
And it doesn’t even have to be good!
… Wait, I KNEW this particular variation of the usual “I’ll make my own country, with blackjack and hookers” mantrum reminded me of something.
He straight-up stole his non-plan from the KKK.
Err, I probably shouldn’t have used the “Blackjack and hookers” quote. Sorry all. >_>;