Last year, I wrote about a repellant little “community” on Reddit: the PhilosophyofRape subreddit, devoted to promoting what it called the corrective rape of “filthy, unmitigated, sluts … [t]hat badly need to be punished. Badly.”
Reddit being what it is, the subreddit remains up to this day. And now the folks behind it have taken their repugnant “philosophy” to the web. Earlier this week, one of the subreddit’s numerous moderators, a veritable cauldron of bigotries who calls himself European88, announced the grand opening of a new Philosophy of Rape website. He urged his fellow “philosophers” to “[s]ubscribe and submit your rape tips … !”
Like the subreddit before it, the site declares war on “harpies,” “hussies,” “[d]ecrepid filth, dressed like hookers and reaking like vodka” and “Belligerent. Entitled. Selfie taking, Tindr-whoring, Teenage-walking-herpes-sores.”
The “philosophers” also take aim at “vain, vile, venemous, femenist, filth,” particularly
[t]he kind who get conferences to talk about mens suicide rates shut down. The type of hussies who have lobbied effectively to remove due process from proceedings against men on college campuses.
In a post titled “Why is Rape Necessary,” the site sets forth its case for “correction.” (I’ve bolded the worst bits.)
1) Rape did serve important, healthy, and natural biological purposes historically in limiting the extent to which female bad behavior can go.
2. Women in many ways are like children, and most can not self-regulate very well, so in the absence of something like parents or a natural limiting force like rape, they just run amok and destroy their selves and everything they touch.
3. Because rape is so completely arm-barred back by the state, and feminism has grown to be this infestation that caused even the social consequences for female behavior to dissappear, we find ourselves in a precarious situation. Unbridled female sluttishness, entitlement, narcissism, vileness and destruction gone viral.
4. Such women need to be Corrected. Humbled. Brought back down to a healthy place and realistic mindset. For their own good as well as that of those around them. That particular corrective action is quite clear, the one that used to naturally limit the behavior: rape.
5. We are here to provide encouragement and advice how to do that and do it safely. Regression analysis to find out which variables make it less likely to get into legal trouble. Very few women report the rapes, what can you do to make it even less likely? Example: remind the victim that “no one will believe them”. When they orgasm (which is actually very common during rape, Google it) speak up and let them know that you are aware of it and that it will come out during trial if they reported it.
Yes, that’s right. After complaining that the feminist “infestation” has enabled “unbridled” female awfulness by drastically reducing the “natural limiting force [of] rape,” the rape “philosophers” acknowledge that most men who rape women face zero consequences for their action. Indeed, in another post, one “philosopher” declares that
We want to teach men that although it may be easier than ever for an innocent man to be convicted of rape when a consensual partner has buyers remorse, it’s also easier than ever for a guilty man to get away Scott free – so long as it’s done the way we advocate: actual rape-rape, as in dark-alley, ski mask, stranger rape.
Emphasis mine. Some of the rape “tips” offered on the site are wholly unoriginal:
Tell the harlot that you come from a rich family and that she will never successfully convict you of raping her in court. Tell her that, if she tries to sue you, you will counter-sue for a huge amount of money that will bankrupt her.
Pretty sure that one’s been used before.
Tell the harlot that, if she tells the police about the rape, you will kill her entire family. If she has children, tell her that you will rape her children before killing them.
That one too.
Other tips are little more than sadistic fantasies:
Put sugar into the harlot’s vagina to give her a yeast infection. This will be a mark of shame on her that she will be unable to forget, and she will have to relive the rape every time she seeks treatment for it. …
After raping the harlot, steal her clothes and write “WHORE” on her chest with a red marker. She will be forced to walk around naked with “WHORE” written on her chest, and it will be extremely humiliating for her.
Whether these rape “philosophers” are actually living out their repellant philosophy, I couldn’t tell you. They insist that they’re quite sincere.
Indeed, in a posting on slutHATE, one rape “philosopher” assured skeptics that
The Philosophy of Rape is as serious as a heart attack. We are a movement of angry, fed-up men – much like you – who have decided to take matters into our own hands. The simple fact of the matter is, simply sitting around and complaining about sluts on the Internet isn’t going to change anything. We need real-world action to correct the slut problem. That’s why The Philosophy of Rape was created. Sluts need real-world punishment, and we want to train an army of holy warriors to dish out that punishment. Your chances of getting caught are already slim, and we will teach you how to make 100% sure that you don’t get caught.
In another comment, he reported that while
I can’t openly admit to how many harlots I’ve corrected, but let’s just say that I do indeed practice what I preach.
He offered this lovely bit of advice to anyone thinking of following in his (alleged) footsteps:
It definitely helps if you build up to the act. Keep edging closer and closer to rape until you’re finally ready to do the deed. For example, send a harlot an anonymous message telling her you’re gonna rape her, then write “HARLOT” on her car, then finally rape her when the moment is right. Build up your courage by first committing smaller acts.
He urged others to take up his peculiar fight for, er, justice:
We are going to build an army of holy warriors to correct harlots and feminazi whores around the world. All it takes is a few Elliot Rodger types to get the ball rolling. What do you have to lose? Enlist in our rape army today, and we will teach you how to correct a new harlot a week and get away with it.
Apparently unafraid of legal consequences, the person posting all this gave what he said was his real name, claiming to be “Brother” Dean Saxton, a campus “activist” of sorts who several years ago caused a stir after holding a one-man protest at the University of Arizona, holding a sign reading “You Deserve Rape.”
In another thread, “Brother Dean” explained why he felt this slogan was so effective in angering feminists: .
NOTHING pisses off feminazis more than reminding them that they are filthy harlots who desperately need to be – and, deep down, WANT TO BE – raped.
He went on to explain why the kind of rape he advocates is the most public-spirited of all the different varieties of rape:
N*ggers rape because they are feral animals who cannot control their primitive biological urges. We rape because we are holy warriors on a mission to correct harlots and purge society of unmitigated female entitlement. The Philosophy of Rape is, ultimately, about fixing society. The only way to correct harlots and feminazis is by raping them.
If “Brother Dean” is European88, he’s kept himself busy since his college protest as a moderator of 157 of Reddit’s most loathsome subreddits, including /r/CoonTown, /r/WhiteRights, /r/nazi, /r/GasTheKikes, /r/Chimpout, /r/StormfrontForums and the lovely /r/N*ggerSafari.
Some of the slutHATE regulars dismissed “Brother Dean” as “disinfo” and “just another frustrated virgin in his basement spreading shit.” frenchy91, for his part, noted that
while i really don’t give a shit who you could rape as long as it’s not my girlfriend, nor familly member, i think you op should get raped by a group of n*ggers, just to know how it feels, then you could objectively speak about who diserve it or not. for now, you just sound like a desperate mysogincel
This is apparently what passes for a “moderate” position on slutHATE. Others there found Brother Dean’s message inspirational. A commenter calling himself mvp wrote that
i definitely support this movement
its time to fight back
“Fuck it,” wrote another. “I’ll rape a bitch for you.”
It would be easy enough to dismiss all of this as nothing more than the ridiculous fantasies of “frustrated virgin[s]” or the work of trolls. I really hope that’s all it is.
But we should remember that slutHATE is essentially a reincarnation of PUAhate, an online forum that was frequented by a young man named, yes, Elliot Rodger, who posted similarly hateful and similarly implausible-sounding comments there before setting out one evening a little over a year ago, intending to “slaughter every single spoiled, stuck-up, blonde slut” in a popular sorority house at the University of California, Santa Barbara.
H/T — MoonMetropolis
@ EJ: All I have to say about what you said in your beautiful post–rolltide, EJ, rolltide. And applause. Resounding, heartfelt applause, for putting into words everything I was thinking and feeling. I appreciate all you said, because at this time, I haven’t enough evens to can’t.
As for brain bleach, I see all of your puppies and goats in pajamas, and raise you a prancing lamb:
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@Leum – Unless they named a specific person, I don’t think a prosecution would hold up in the US (or even be pursued, really).
I’m going to keep on believing that one day, serial rapists such as these will be caught. It’s the only way to make the existence of websites like Philosophy of Rape (slightly) less depressing.
Is Reddit run by Vogons? Because I understand freedom of speech, but a private business doesn’t need to provide a vehicle for ugliness and vice of this degree unless they actually want to.
Ah, and here I took a few days off from reading the blog to give my soul a rest from the vile shit and I come back to this. O__O
@EJ
Slow clap. That was a thing of beauty.
Everywhere that Mary went, the lamb was sure to go.
That really got your goat, huh?
@EJ
http://38.media.tumblr.com/2e2b478c3df9f1229d77caacaad77b06/tumblr_n3s8ecoegO1s4hjb0o1_500.gif
Thank you, sir. That was beautiful.
@EJ
That was so good i just can’t… i can’t.
That was really good.
I haven’t felt this sick since I visited Vanguard News Network. *shudders*
Okay. Let’s see if we can unpack and dismantle this hibberjibber a bit…
No, it did NOT. I would challenge you to come here and point out specific, VERIFIED examples of it doing so, but I know you won’t rise to that, because you’re a big fucking coward who hides behind a keyboard and an Internet connection, instead of putting a real face and name to your shit. And because you have no examples of it ever doing any such thing. No wonder you’re a gutless wimp who talks big and can’t get his stick up.
No, we are NOT. My parents aren’t the bosses of me, and rape is not a “natural limiting force”. And where are all these run-amok women “destroying their selves and everything they touch”? I don’t see any. All I see is women going about their everyday lives. If by “destroying everything” you mean girls making duckface selfies, your idea of destruction and danger is laughable. You want to rape girls just for taking their own pictures? You consider THAT a threat? You, sirrah, are a skidmarked wimp and a pants-wetting little coward. Even the skinniest of these girls could probably fold you up and stuff you into her purse. And I hope one of them does, and I hope she then smacks that purse against a brick wall. Repeatedly.
Gee, dude, you say that like it’s a BAD thing that you’re not allowed to rape women into submission. And what is this “precarious situation” you babble of? The fact that none of them gives you a second glance or wants to sleep with your sorry, pimply ass? That’s not on them, that’s on YOU. You don’t want to repulse them? Then don’t be fucking repulsive. Learn to wipe your ass and have some goddamned manners, you oaf. Maybe then one of them might finally take pity on you. Not that you deserve it or anything, mind you.
No, we do NOT. Because it’s not healthy OR realistic to expect women to be cowering in terror of your mosquito dick, that’s why.
And if you think rape will “correct” anything, guess what: All it does is make women hate you. And you will thoroughly deserve that. It will not, however, silence us. Take it from one who’s had a dick shoved into her mouth without so much as a by-your-leave. It did not shut me up. If anything, it’s made me more outspoken against male violence. I am not afraid of you pimply-assed 15-year-olds, or any man. I’ve learned self-defence, including how to hit you in ways that could leave you permanently disabled or dead. You want to take your chances with that? Go right ahead and try it. Because you don’t know which women know those things and which ones don’t, you know. It’s not like we have a special look, or anything.
Oh, for the fuck of shit. Orgasm during rape is very UNcommon, and it doesn’t mean a thing even in the rare event that it DOES happen. It also won’t matter if it “comes out during trial” that this rare, unlikely thing even happened. And you probably wouldn’t know even if it DID happen, because you’re all obtuse as hell and don’t know the first thing about women, as you have so amply demonstrated with all the foregoing drivel. Quit whacking off to violent porn, you idiots.
Also, “Regression analysis to find out which variables make it less likely to get into legal trouble.” is not even a complete sentence. If you want to scare and intimidate women with your formidable intellect, the least you could do is TRY to write proper English, you onanistic juvenile delinquent.
This isn’t much, but I’d thought I’d share some Owl City.
When I’m feeling a bit down, Owl City helps a lot.
I wish I could hug you Bina. 🙁
zennurse,
You wrote,
“Critical dragon, I retweeted it to some Anons.”
That’s nice to hear. Hopefully they’ll make them angry, and if you’re on the Internet, you don’t want to make Anonymous angry.
Aw, shucks. T’ain’t nothin’. I just had to vent…
Aaaaaand here’s Maru. Making a purrito of himself. Twice, even.
Women’s crimes? Apparently in order:
“Not dressing unsexily enough for me” Because the way women are dressed always regards me, there is no chance they are dressed for their SO, or for a party, or to pick up, or just for themselves, it must be to annoy me.
“Drinking Vodka”, a legal substance, not like men ever drink too much.
“Belligerent, entitled” (but young men being these things is fine), something totally unnatural for young people to be.
“Taking Self-Portraits” self-portrait being a trend centuries old is clearly pernicious and dangerous for society. How dare women try to depict themselves as they want to?
“Using Tindr”, wow it’s like women also like sex and use modern efficient ways to find men they would like to have sex with. Just like the men! Shocking and heinous!
“Contracting STD’s”, which is primarily the fault of the person who was infected to begin with, they are legally obligated to warn partners and take prophylactic measures to stop themselves from spreading it. Nonetheless, diseases happen, big deal.
“Getting mens suicide conferences shut down”, there’s a whole initiative about male depression and suicide on TV in Australia, has been for years. I personally have been present at 2 speeches on the subject as the legal profession is especially prone to suicide and being male only exacerbates the risk factor.
All bullshit.
Nobody deserves to be raped.
@ Dan
Not cool. This is a case where you should write out your thoughts and hit the delete button. The last things anyone else here needs to deal with are your violent fantasies.
David, can we have a modding?
Dan, I certainly understand the anger, but I can’t allow comments like that here. I deleted it; please refrain from that sort of comment again.
I’m not going to click on any of the links in this post and I always click on the links. That’s how I’m going to deal with this, with some good old fashioned “lalalalalalalalala I can’t hear you”.
…I just noticed that he’s advocating raping children.
God, this is ridiculous and pathetic that there are men like this out there! These guys can’t be serious, right? They’re just good trolls trying to drive traffic to their sites for the ad profits, right? Sometimes I worry that sites like WHTM are giving them TOO MUCH ATTENTION, which is exactly what they want. I know it’s important we track (and mock) scary people like this, but maybe we should ignore them? Sometimes I think Roosh and Paul Elam and guys like this are all just good con artists playing off the insecurities of sad men by giving them a place to vent their frustrations, just so they can make money. This has to be it, because no way can people like them actually believe the things they say. I mean, the slightest bit of research and common sense and logic applied to their ideas and they crumble like a house of cards!
They actually remind me of something Kurt Vonnegut said in Mother Night about the Nazis. I’m paraphrasing, but basically his point was that the Nazis and other people so full of hatred aren’t really stupid people, they just file certain gears off the clockwork in their minds responsible for logic, so they’re completely normal people until it comes to those gears. Which actually makes them even scarier in a way. Because if they were just stupid, they could be educated. But these people disregard logic itself, which makes them unhelpable, and ultimately very dangerous.
Ugh. Just UGH. Nobody deserves to be raped, and those… I’m sorry, I cannot bring myself to call them human beings.
They need to step on ALL THE LEGOS for their vile bullshit.
@epitome of incomprehensibility:
IANAL, but my understanding is that incitement to violence is only a crime in the U.S. if it’s imminent/direct. For example, if there were an anti-Muslim protest outside of a mosque and one of the protesters shouted “Let’s burn down that mosque” that would be illegal, but if someone comments on the Internet “burning down mosques is a good idea” that isn’t illegal.
@spacelawn
I’d like to ask you to think about why you think a comparison with a part of the typical female anatomy is an insult, and at the same time maybe rethink your choice to use it as one.
@PoM
I thought they were talking about women, in reply to EJ’s post, so I ignored them because I am in no fucking mood.
If they were talking about these assholes advocating rape, they have VERY poor word choice.
@katz
I see. I guess I just ruined it with my proven inability to detect puns over the internet?