Last year, I wrote about a repellant little “community” on Reddit: the PhilosophyofRape subreddit, devoted to promoting what it called the corrective rape of “filthy, unmitigated, sluts … [t]hat badly need to be punished. Badly.”
Reddit being what it is, the subreddit remains up to this day. And now the folks behind it have taken their repugnant “philosophy” to the web. Earlier this week, one of the subreddit’s numerous moderators, a veritable cauldron of bigotries who calls himself European88, announced the grand opening of a new Philosophy of Rape website. He urged his fellow “philosophers” to “[s]ubscribe and submit your rape tips … !”
Like the subreddit before it, the site declares war on “harpies,” “hussies,” “[d]ecrepid filth, dressed like hookers and reaking like vodka” and “Belligerent. Entitled. Selfie taking, Tindr-whoring, Teenage-walking-herpes-sores.”
The “philosophers” also take aim at “vain, vile, venemous, femenist, filth,” particularly
[t]he kind who get conferences to talk about mens suicide rates shut down. The type of hussies who have lobbied effectively to remove due process from proceedings against men on college campuses.
In a post titled “Why is Rape Necessary,” the site sets forth its case for “correction.” (I’ve bolded the worst bits.)
1) Rape did serve important, healthy, and natural biological purposes historically in limiting the extent to which female bad behavior can go.
2. Women in many ways are like children, and most can not self-regulate very well, so in the absence of something like parents or a natural limiting force like rape, they just run amok and destroy their selves and everything they touch.
3. Because rape is so completely arm-barred back by the state, and feminism has grown to be this infestation that caused even the social consequences for female behavior to dissappear, we find ourselves in a precarious situation. Unbridled female sluttishness, entitlement, narcissism, vileness and destruction gone viral.
4. Such women need to be Corrected. Humbled. Brought back down to a healthy place and realistic mindset. For their own good as well as that of those around them. That particular corrective action is quite clear, the one that used to naturally limit the behavior: rape.
5. We are here to provide encouragement and advice how to do that and do it safely. Regression analysis to find out which variables make it less likely to get into legal trouble. Very few women report the rapes, what can you do to make it even less likely? Example: remind the victim that “no one will believe them”. When they orgasm (which is actually very common during rape, Google it) speak up and let them know that you are aware of it and that it will come out during trial if they reported it.
Yes, that’s right. After complaining that the feminist “infestation” has enabled “unbridled” female awfulness by drastically reducing the “natural limiting force [of] rape,” the rape “philosophers” acknowledge that most men who rape women face zero consequences for their action. Indeed, in another post, one “philosopher” declares that
We want to teach men that although it may be easier than ever for an innocent man to be convicted of rape when a consensual partner has buyers remorse, it’s also easier than ever for a guilty man to get away Scott free – so long as it’s done the way we advocate: actual rape-rape, as in dark-alley, ski mask, stranger rape.
Emphasis mine. Some of the rape “tips” offered on the site are wholly unoriginal:
Tell the harlot that you come from a rich family and that she will never successfully convict you of raping her in court. Tell her that, if she tries to sue you, you will counter-sue for a huge amount of money that will bankrupt her.
Pretty sure that one’s been used before.
Tell the harlot that, if she tells the police about the rape, you will kill her entire family. If she has children, tell her that you will rape her children before killing them.
That one too.
Other tips are little more than sadistic fantasies:
Put sugar into the harlot’s vagina to give her a yeast infection. This will be a mark of shame on her that she will be unable to forget, and she will have to relive the rape every time she seeks treatment for it. …
After raping the harlot, steal her clothes and write “WHORE” on her chest with a red marker. She will be forced to walk around naked with “WHORE” written on her chest, and it will be extremely humiliating for her.
Whether these rape “philosophers” are actually living out their repellant philosophy, I couldn’t tell you. They insist that they’re quite sincere.
Indeed, in a posting on slutHATE, one rape “philosopher” assured skeptics that
The Philosophy of Rape is as serious as a heart attack. We are a movement of angry, fed-up men – much like you – who have decided to take matters into our own hands. The simple fact of the matter is, simply sitting around and complaining about sluts on the Internet isn’t going to change anything. We need real-world action to correct the slut problem. That’s why The Philosophy of Rape was created. Sluts need real-world punishment, and we want to train an army of holy warriors to dish out that punishment. Your chances of getting caught are already slim, and we will teach you how to make 100% sure that you don’t get caught.
In another comment, he reported that while
I can’t openly admit to how many harlots I’ve corrected, but let’s just say that I do indeed practice what I preach.
He offered this lovely bit of advice to anyone thinking of following in his (alleged) footsteps:
It definitely helps if you build up to the act. Keep edging closer and closer to rape until you’re finally ready to do the deed. For example, send a harlot an anonymous message telling her you’re gonna rape her, then write “HARLOT” on her car, then finally rape her when the moment is right. Build up your courage by first committing smaller acts.
He urged others to take up his peculiar fight for, er, justice:
We are going to build an army of holy warriors to correct harlots and feminazi whores around the world. All it takes is a few Elliot Rodger types to get the ball rolling. What do you have to lose? Enlist in our rape army today, and we will teach you how to correct a new harlot a week and get away with it.
Apparently unafraid of legal consequences, the person posting all this gave what he said was his real name, claiming to be “Brother” Dean Saxton, a campus “activist” of sorts who several years ago caused a stir after holding a one-man protest at the University of Arizona, holding a sign reading “You Deserve Rape.”
In another thread, “Brother Dean” explained why he felt this slogan was so effective in angering feminists: .
NOTHING pisses off feminazis more than reminding them that they are filthy harlots who desperately need to be – and, deep down, WANT TO BE – raped.
He went on to explain why the kind of rape he advocates is the most public-spirited of all the different varieties of rape:
N*ggers rape because they are feral animals who cannot control their primitive biological urges. We rape because we are holy warriors on a mission to correct harlots and purge society of unmitigated female entitlement. The Philosophy of Rape is, ultimately, about fixing society. The only way to correct harlots and feminazis is by raping them.
If “Brother Dean” is European88, he’s kept himself busy since his college protest as a moderator of 157 of Reddit’s most loathsome subreddits, including /r/CoonTown, /r/WhiteRights, /r/nazi, /r/GasTheKikes, /r/Chimpout, /r/StormfrontForums and the lovely /r/N*ggerSafari.
Some of the slutHATE regulars dismissed “Brother Dean” as “disinfo” and “just another frustrated virgin in his basement spreading shit.” frenchy91, for his part, noted that
while i really don’t give a shit who you could rape as long as it’s not my girlfriend, nor familly member, i think you op should get raped by a group of n*ggers, just to know how it feels, then you could objectively speak about who diserve it or not. for now, you just sound like a desperate mysogincel
This is apparently what passes for a “moderate” position on slutHATE. Others there found Brother Dean’s message inspirational. A commenter calling himself mvp wrote that
i definitely support this movement
its time to fight back
“Fuck it,” wrote another. “I’ll rape a bitch for you.”
It would be easy enough to dismiss all of this as nothing more than the ridiculous fantasies of “frustrated virgin[s]” or the work of trolls. I really hope that’s all it is.
But we should remember that slutHATE is essentially a reincarnation of PUAhate, an online forum that was frequented by a young man named, yes, Elliot Rodger, who posted similarly hateful and similarly implausible-sounding comments there before setting out one evening a little over a year ago, intending to “slaughter every single spoiled, stuck-up, blonde slut” in a popular sorority house at the University of California, Santa Barbara.
H/T — MoonMetropolis
@EJ – Thank you for that great post. It was made even better because as I started to read it “We will rock you” came on the radio. It was a glorious combination.
With Vox Day and this in one day, there is only one response: Kitties.
And livestreaming foster kittens + mom here:
http://livestream.com/tinykittens/eve
(They also have a saved recording of the birth, which made me very glad Jade is spayed.)
David Futrelle,
This disgusting group is still around? Seriously these guys are sick, and if this is misogyny, nothing is. Oh and these people continue to call themselves “men’s rights activists,” even through they’re not defending anyone’s rights.
Them calling themselves “men’s rights activists” is like white supremacist calling themselves a “white people’s rights activists.” It should be obvious to all but the most extreme misogynists that they don’t defend men’s rights, they merely want to take rights away from women.
Those rotten piles of scum talk about it like they never see themselves as potential victims, only as the rapists. And then they turn around and blame feminists for denying male survivors. But yes, Poe’s law is strong again. I just hope this is another massive troll train because reading that made me almost throw up.
Imagine the gif of Hubert Farnsworth not wanting to live on this planet because I don’t have time to embed I need pictures of puppies and urgently.
> one of the subreddit’s numerous moderators, a veritable cauldron of bigotries who calls himself European88,
I am astonishingly unsurprised that
DAMMIT DIDN’T MEAN TO SEND THAT YET! Anyway; I am astonishingly unsurprised that one of their leaders is also a nazi.
I think everyone should know this PoR site is hosted by WordPress. I think this violates their tems of service. If you agree you can report it at https://en.support.wordpress.com/report-blogs/
I just noped all the way down…
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1890818/bird-nope-o.gif
http://i.imgur.com/3CFcHZU.gif
Aaaaaaand…. goats in pajamas!!
Kestrel, Jackie – thanks. I feel a lot calmer now. I spent about an hour and a half writing the sort of angry screed I seldom allow myself and… yeah. This must be what it feels like to be M.
To clarify, for any MRAs who wish to accuse me of violating my own ethical tenets:
Do not kill.
Do not rape.
Do not be a Nazi.
Do not be a holy warrior.
Do not hero-worship Paul Hausser.
Do not use the phrase “real man.”
Do get the fuck out of my gender.
ive never undesrtood the argument that rape is okay because women orgasm anyway. if one of those rape apologists was tied up and masturbated by some dude he wouldnt be like i guess its alright since i came anyway, nah he would probably want to murder the guy. and yet when it comes to women they never see it that way
You asked for puppies? I can do that too.
And if you need a reminder that there are good people out there:
The fact that people like this exist is legitimately horrifying. These men are disgusting and need to stopped. Thank God the FBI is aware of them. But I also fear that the existence of such a group will lend legitimacy to other groups in the manosphere who encourage men to use coercive and violent tactics to get laid and thereby encourage date and acquaintance rape because those people can point out that at least they’re not PhilosophyOfRape. Honestly, the fact that they exist will allow some of the worst people on the manosphere to claim that they’re moderates and make them even less likely to feel bad about the “pickup” techniques and “relationship maintenance” (read: DV) tips that they’re promoting. There is literally nothing good about the existence of PhilosophyOfRape.
Quit kidding around!
Absent a Constitutional amendment or a radical change in interpretation by the SCOTUS it’s impossible to criminalize hate speech and difficult to demonstrate that speech is an incitement to violence. However, since this website literally tells men they should rape people, it could probably be done in this case.
OMIGOD WESTIE PUPPIES!
I thought I should alert you guys to this article from AVfM. It seems that it’s written in a slightly satirical tone, though looking at the comments, I dare to say they’re being serious. Especially when you consider that to some people, gender equality only means treating women like shit.
http://www.donotlink.com/ffs9
EJ: Thank you for writing that. It was deeply appreciated.
David Futrelle,
This evil “Philosophy of Rape” organization needs to be destroyed. Hopefully they’ll enrage the hackers at Anonymous, and they’ll decided to take them on!
Pretty obvious that the dudes above rebelled. . .against English grammar. It’s difficult to take their little screeds seriously.
EJ, the OO, that was wonderful. Thanks. Sometimes words just make it so much better. I want to believe that this is all just frothing at the mouth because sad boner but the level of fury mixed with almost delight at imagining these acts and their outcome feels very dangerous to me.
I did report the site to the FBI. There is no way that this is satire.
I spent some time yesterday in the comments sections on the comment rules and the other header pages, what a fun read. One of the best things about this site versus many others is not just the education but the excellent troll snatching. The trolls, some going back 2-3 years, got their asses handed to them again and again. And the best part is that it is done intelligently with facts, links and correct information when appropriate. That is until said troll become!es boring, no longer swattable and won’t GTOW. Then it gets a little “catty”.
I’m a little too shy for troll snatching but I do love to watch.
So thanks for that.
@katz
Is that an idiom like “Get out of here!” or did I mess up somehow (if so, really sorry!)?
It was supposed to be a goat pun.
Critical dragon, I retweeted it to some Anons.
“…angry, fed-up men – much like you”
Yes, i am angry and fed up with this absolute vile bullshit these cunts keep saying, can’t we just put them all on an island? Let them stay there till they die out, it would make the world a much, much better place.
Here it is. Proof that rape is about punishment.
It’s not about being too horny to hold back (as is often claimed). It’s not about giving women something that women will somehow supposedly enjoy (as they claim).
This is a frank admission of the truth: rape is punishment for women who dare think that they are people.