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“Philosophy of Rape” site argues that “whores and feminazis need to be put in their place through rape,” offers tips to aspiring rapists

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Last year, I wrote about a repellant little “community” on Reddit: the PhilosophyofRape subreddit, devoted to promoting what it called the corrective rape of “filthy, unmitigated, sluts … [t]hat badly need to be punished. Badly.”

Reddit being what it is, the subreddit remains up to this day. And now the folks behind it have taken their repugnant “philosophy” to the web. Earlier this week, one of the subreddit’s numerous moderators, a veritable cauldron of bigotries who calls himself European88, announced the grand opening of a new Philosophy of Rape website. He urged his fellow “philosophers” to “[s]ubscribe and submit your rape tips … !” 

Like the subreddit before it, the site declares war on “harpies,” “hussies,” “[d]ecrepid filth, dressed like hookers and reaking like vodka” and “Belligerent. Entitled. Selfie taking, Tindr-whoring, Teenage-walking-herpes-sores.”

The “philosophers” also take aim at “vain, vile, venemous, femenist, filth,” particularly

[t]he kind who get conferences to talk about mens suicide rates shut down. The type of hussies who have lobbied effectively to remove due process from proceedings against men on college campuses.

In  a post titled “Why is Rape Necessary,” the site sets forth its case for “correction.” (I’ve bolded the worst bits.)

1) Rape did serve important, healthy, and natural biological purposes historically in limiting the extent to which female bad behavior can go.

2. Women in many ways are like children, and most can not self-regulate very well, so in the absence of something like parents or a natural limiting force like rape, they just run amok and destroy their selves and everything they touch.

3. Because rape is so completely arm-barred back by the state, and feminism has grown to be this infestation that caused even the social consequences for female behavior to dissappear, we find ourselves in a precarious situation. Unbridled female sluttishness, entitlement, narcissism, vileness and destruction gone viral.

4. Such women need to be Corrected. Humbled. Brought back down to a healthy place and realistic mindset. For their own good as well as that of those around them. That particular corrective action is quite clear, the one that used to naturally limit the behavior: rape.

5. We are here to provide encouragement and advice how to do that and do it safely. Regression analysis to find out which variables make it less likely to get into legal trouble. Very few women report the rapes, what can you do to make it even less likely? Example: remind the victim that “no one will believe them”. When they orgasm (which is actually very common during rape, Google it) speak up and let them know that you are aware of it and that it will come out during trial if they reported it.

Yes, that’s right. After complaining that the feminist “infestation” has enabled “unbridled” female awfulness by drastically reducing the “natural limiting force [of] rape,” the rape “philosophers” acknowledge that most men who rape women face zero consequences for their action. Indeed, in another post, one “philosopher” declares that

We want to teach men that although it may be easier than ever for an innocent man to be convicted of rape when a consensual partner has buyers remorse, it’s also easier than ever for a guilty man to get away Scott free – so long as it’s done the way we advocate: actual rape-rape, as in dark-alley, ski mask, stranger rape.

Emphasis mine. Some of the rape “tips” offered on the site are wholly unoriginal:

Tell the harlot that you come from a rich family and that she will never successfully convict you of raping her in court.  Tell her that, if she tries to sue you, you will counter-sue for a huge amount of money that will bankrupt her.

Pretty sure that one’s been used before.

Tell the harlot that, if she tells the police about the rape, you will kill her entire family.  If she has children, tell her that you will rape her children before killing them.

That one too.

Other tips are little more than sadistic fantasies:

Put sugar into the harlot’s vagina to give her a yeast infection.  This will be a mark of shame on her that she will be unable to forget, and she will have to relive the rape every time she seeks treatment for it. …

After raping the harlot, steal her clothes and write “WHORE” on her chest with a red marker.  She will be forced to walk around naked with “WHORE” written on her chest, and it will be extremely humiliating for her.

Whether these rape “philosophers” are actually living out their repellant philosophy, I couldn’t tell you. They insist that they’re quite sincere.

Indeed, in a posting on slutHATE, one rape “philosopher” assured skeptics that

The Philosophy of Rape is as serious as a heart attack. We are a movement of angry, fed-up men – much like you – who have decided to take matters into our own hands. The simple fact of the matter is, simply sitting around and complaining about sluts on the Internet isn’t going to change anything. We need real-world action to correct the slut problem. That’s why The Philosophy of Rape was created. Sluts need real-world punishment, and we want to train an army of holy warriors to dish out that punishment. Your chances of getting caught are already slim, and we will teach you how to make 100% sure that you don’t get caught. 

In another comment, he reported that while

I can’t openly admit to how many harlots I’ve corrected, but let’s just say that I do indeed practice what I preach.

He offered this lovely bit of advice to anyone thinking of following in his (alleged) footsteps:

It definitely helps if you build up to the act. Keep edging closer and closer to rape until you’re finally ready to do the deed. For example, send a harlot an anonymous message telling her you’re gonna rape her, then write “HARLOT” on her car, then finally rape her when the moment is right. Build up your courage by first committing smaller acts.

He urged others to take up his peculiar fight for, er, justice:

We are going to build an army of holy warriors to correct harlots and feminazi whores around the world. All it takes is a few Elliot Rodger types to get the ball rolling. What do you have to lose? Enlist in our rape army today, and we will teach you how to correct a new harlot a week and get away with it.

Apparently unafraid of legal consequences, the person posting all this gave what he said was his real name, claiming to be “Brother” Dean Saxton, a campus “activist” of sorts who several years ago caused a stir after holding a one-man protest at the University of Arizona, holding a sign reading “You Deserve Rape.”

In another thread, “Brother Dean” explained why he felt this slogan was so effective in angering feminists: .

NOTHING pisses off feminazis more than reminding them that they are filthy harlots who desperately need to be – and, deep down, WANT TO BE – raped.

He went on to explain why the kind of rape he advocates is the most public-spirited of all the different varieties of rape:

N*ggers rape because they are feral animals who cannot control their primitive biological urges. We rape because we are holy warriors on a mission to correct harlots and purge society of unmitigated female entitlement. The Philosophy of Rape is, ultimately, about fixing society. The only way to correct harlots and feminazis is by raping them.

If “Brother Dean” is European88, he’s kept himself busy since his college protest as a moderator of 157 of Reddit’s most loathsome subreddits, including /r/CoonTown, /r/WhiteRights,  /r/nazi, /r/GasTheKikes, /r/Chimpout, /r/StormfrontForums and the lovely /r/N*ggerSafari.

Some of the slutHATE regulars dismissed “Brother Dean” as “disinfo” and “just another frustrated virgin in his basement spreading shit.” frenchy91, for his part, noted that

while i really don’t give a shit who you could rape as long as it’s not my girlfriend, nor familly member, i think you op should get raped by a group of n*ggers, just to know how it feels, then you could objectively speak about who diserve it or not. for now, you just sound like a desperate mysogincel

This is apparently what passes for a “moderate” position on slutHATE. Others there found Brother Dean’s message inspirational. A commenter calling himself mvp wrote that

i definitely support this movement

its time to fight back

“Fuck it,” wrote another. “I’ll rape a bitch for you.”

It would be easy enough to dismiss all of this as nothing more than the ridiculous fantasies of “frustrated virgin[s]” or the work of trolls. I really hope that’s all it is.

But we should remember that slutHATE is essentially a reincarnation of PUAhate, an online forum that was frequented by a young man named, yes, Elliot Rodger, who posted similarly hateful and similarly implausible-sounding comments there before setting out one evening a little over a year ago, intending to “slaughter every single spoiled, stuck-up, blonde slut” in a popular sorority house at the University of California, Santa Barbara.

H/T — MoonMetropolis

 

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FE_Power
FE_Power
9 years ago

It was taken down because the right people asked them to take it down.

Panda (KungFoolPanda?), you were the one being intellectually dishonest, not me. Altering what a person said and changing generalities to absolutes is pretty weak.

isidore13
isidore13
9 years ago

Why are you claiming credit for having it shut down? Can you prove it was you and you alone who deserves the credit, FE?

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

FE needs to read comics more. I am very embarrassed for you.

Also, I love Kung Fu Panda! How did you know~~~!? Can’t wait for 3!

Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

Wait, wait, wait…

How was Pandapool being “intellectually dishonest” (which is pretty much a MRA dog whistle by now) and “altering what a person said” and “changing generalities to absolutes”? Only a Sith deals in absolutes, and I don’t think that Pandapool’s a Sith, bruh.

And yes, I scrolled way, WAY up to see where they might have done that in case you were responding (really late) to an earlier post, and I found nuthin’.

Unless you’re just using big words because you like the way they sound. In which case, I’d like to remind you, FE_power, that words mean things, so you can’t just throw them around willy-nilly.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

Sorry. I’m a Sith.

http://i.imgur.com/PoI3apo.png

Ya’ll are horrible judges of character.

FE_Power
FE_Power
9 years ago

Paradoxical, the most recent was when Panda changed Majority to No One, as an example. A generality changed to an absolute. That’s textbook intellectual dishonesty

Panda, I know exactly who Deadpool Panda is, or was in the Marvel Multiverse. I was honestly hoping it was just a typo on your part when you chose the screen name.

I do love the “We don’t actually try to accomplish anything here, we just mock it and complain about it” mentality. I guess that gives you more time to get all the yurts arranged in a circle to practice your condescending glares.

Lea, Two answers for you and a question. First, I never said don’t so anything about it, I was pointing out that the suggestions that had been given here so far would be useless. Second, as to why am I still here, maybe I have a fetish for bigotry. You have it here by the truckloads.
Question in the form of a statement, I would be thrilled for you to point out exactly where I was being a cheerleader for rapists and am asking you to show me where I did that here, if it’s not too much of a bother. I do realize you’re going to gloss over that request and just reply with more accusations, but hey, it doesn’t hurt to ask.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

It’s kinda hard to do a typo of a full phrase, man.

katz
katz
9 years ago

“The right people?” Is this a thing on the internet now?

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

Wait a second…

“Deadpool Panda”?

You, sir, are an idiot on so many levels.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
9 years ago

@FE_Power:

I am curious as to what you hope to achieve. You’re putting a lot of time and effort into this. Don’t you have a novel you could write or something else productive?

sevenofmine
9 years ago

FE_Power sez:

First, I never said don’t so anything about it, I was pointing out that the suggestions that had been given here so far would be useless.

What you did, chucklefuck, was assume that our goals here are something they are not. You think our goal here is to win some internet dick measuring contest and get a blog/subreddit shut down. So you suggested we go full 4chan on them.

What you still don’t understand is that we’re here to challenge their ideas, not simply get them shut down (although wordpress shutting the blog down is certainly a good thing).

I do love the “We don’t actually try to accomplish anything here, we just mock it and complain about it” mentality. I guess that gives you more time to get all the yurts arranged in a circle to practice your condescending glares.

You’re still assuming, like the abject moron you clearly are, that posting on WHTM is the only thing any of us does about this stuff. You know fuck all about what kind of activism anyone here does outside of this website.

Further, even if posting here is all someone does, why the actual fuck do you care? Why is talking about these things and learning about the systems that support bigotry not a worthwhile thing to do? Not everyone has the time or the means to do any meatspace activism. People have jobs and families and disabilities, etc. So they do what they can and offer support where they can. And nobody gives a shit if that doesn’t meet some arbitrary standard set by FE_Fucking_Power.

Question in the form of a statement, I would be thrilled for you to point out exactly where I was being a cheerleader for rapists and am asking you to show me where I did that here, if it’s not too much of a bother.

“Inference” is a word you need to Google before you try to communicate with other human beings again. There’s no way you think you’re actually convincing us of anything. You’re here to derail. You’re here to stop us talking about something you don’t want anyone talking about. You don’t want the idea that men should be free to rape without consequence challenged.

FE_Power
FE_Power
9 years ago

Dave has my email address. If he wants the details of what was done, I will be more than happy to share that information with him directly. I would prefer he keeps it private, but if he feels the need to share it with you afterwards, that’s up to him.

For the rest of you I’ll explain why the suggestions other people gave to deal with nazi boy would not work. Petition.org is pretty much a placebo. If you do reach the required number of signatures, all that guarantees is someone from the executive branch will read it and give a response. There’s no promise they will do anything about it.
Multiple people said contact the FBI. The FBI is not a federal police force, and actually have a limited domain of what they can get involved with. Here’s some of it but not all. Someone robs a federally insured financial institution, attacks a federal facility or federal employee, or (the ones that matters here) commits felonies in multiple states or violates someones civil rights. In those situations the FBI can jump right in, but unfortunately nazi boy admitted to nothing incriminating. That means the most the FBI could do is pass the report down the food chain until hopefully it reaches the correct agency to be dealt with.

Seven, I said going weeaboo was an option, I never said it was the only option, although with Reddit being the ultra-libertarian “all speech is protected to be free” claptrap, not a lot that can be done there. At least not legally.

Panda, I mean come on, there were also T-Rex and squirrel Deadpools in Deadpool kills Deadpool. Yes the name was Pandapool, and that was the Deadpool panda. I never bothered to read the print after your screen name since the bottom sentence is ginsu’d down the middle. Personally I’ve always been more of a SquirrelGirl fan.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

@FE_Power

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/ovrwhlm.gif

Just…stop talking. You’re embarrassing yourself. You’re just paraphrasing crap you found on the wiki Paradoxical linked. It’s okay that you don’t read Deadpool. I haven’t even read all the comics, but don’t try to pretend to be knowledgeable in it when you’re clearly not. It’s just really painful, for fuck sakes.

sevenofmine
9 years ago

FE_Power, how many times do you need to be told that nobody here gives a fuck about “going weeaboo”? This is not an outpost of fucking 4chan. This is not a dick measuring contest. This isn’t some imaginary internet war wherein the goal is to “defeat” an enemy by getting their website shut down by any means necessary. We’re here to discuss and deconstruct the attitudes behind the ideas they express. We’re here to discuss and learn about the social systems that make it possible for rapists to rape with impunity. We’re here to raise awareness about the fact that places like PoR exist. If someone decides their blog/subreddit is dangerous and shuts it down, hooray, but that is not our goal.

That means the most the FBI could do is pass the report down the food chain until hopefully it reaches the correct agency to be dealt with.

So the most the FBI could do is alert whichever agency has the means to deal with it. That’s exactly what we’re trying to do, shitwit. “Contacting the FBI is useless because all they can do is exactly what you want them to do.” Cool story bro. Fucking moron.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

@sevenofmine

What the fuck does being a weeabo have to do with anything here anyway? Or did the meaning change someone between middle school and junior year for me?

sevenofmine
9 years ago

@ Pandapool

He suggested several pages ago flooding the subreddit with cute pictures or something and he referred to that as “going weeaboo”.

This seems to be a case of someone who is so immersed in chan/reddit culture that they’re nigh incomprehensible to people outside it.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

@sevenofmine

Okay, that just confuses me further. “Weeaboo” is someone who’s super into Japanese culture to annoying extremes, mostly anime. Are they suggesting we flood the subreddit with pictures from Bleach and Kill la Kill? What would posting pictures do anything to, you know, stop it? At all?

Why the fuck are they here at all, for fuck sakes.

sevenofmine
9 years ago

Yeah that was my understanding of “weeaboo” too. And yeah I think that’s actually what he means. And I think he’s actually so immersed in reddit/chan culture that he just can’t fucking conceive of people having a goal bigger than the existence/non-existence of a subreddit.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago
Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

FE_Power | June 16, 2015 at 12:54 am
Paradoxical, the most recent was when Panda changed Majority to No One, as an example. A generality changed to an absolute. That’s textbook intellectual dishonesty

Oh noes, you were paraphrased instead of Pandapool taking the time to sort through Ye Olde Wall O’ Text to find your exact quote! Time to start screeching about “intellectual dishonesty” on the internets again!

Though, I did have a chuckle at your claim that you seem to know more about rape than we do. Especially considering I’m a rape survivor myself, who was raped on a regular basis for the span of two hellish years of my adolescence by a parental figure.

Yup, you totes know more about that than I would! [/sarcasm]

Panda, I know exactly who Deadpool Panda is, or was in the Marvel Multiverse. I was honestly hoping it was just a typo on your part when you chose the screen name.

Ugh, fuck off with your Marvel Fanboi Elitism. You’re being a abstractly shaped shit nugget.

I do love the “We don’t actually try to accomplish anything here, we just mock it and complain about it” mentality. I guess that gives you more time to get all the yurts arranged in a circle to practice your condescending glares.

Yup, because you totes know more about our lives than we do just based on the fact that we’re all reading this one website at some point in time! You totally know how much activism we all do, and you know we’re all young, able-bodied human beings with lots of spare time and money and no kids so we can go off and do all this activism to your fucking standards because we totes give a flying fuck what some self-important shitweasel on the internet thinks about what we do here! [/sarcasm]

Yeah, please stop. You’re embarrassing yourself.

http://i.imgur.com/9dx4Sh8.gif

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
9 years ago

Update for you, I had the wordpress rape website that the wannabe nazi put up shut down, and have a couple of my fellow neanderthals looking in to who was behind it, and the other crap at reddit. Have a nice day.

Right, it couldn’t possibly have been taken down because of those of us who reported it to WordPress and the FBI and spread awareness. It must’ve been taken down because of the guy who outright said we shouldn’t report it to WordPress or the FBI or spread awareness.

Wait, what?

sunnysombrera
9 years ago

@SFHC
If you can’t beat ’em, pretend to join ’em? I dunno.

Anyway, part of me hopes that the authorities screen capped that site before it was taken down, since the author freely admitted to serial rape a couple times. It’s great when disturbing shit is removed, but at the same time it serves as evidence if it stays up. Brother Dean will only find another way to trumpet his incitement to violence, maybe just set up a blog under a different name. Much like how JB just popped up with another Twitter account.

That Brother Dean fellow needs to be behind bars. I believe him when he says he’s raped several women/girls.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

< And I think he’s actually so immersed in reddit/chan culture that he just can’t fucking conceive of people having a goal bigger than the existence/non-existence of a subreddit.

His feeble mind can’t grasp that while yes, we would love it if reddit shut them, but that specific site is not truly the point. We want to change the culture that allows a site like philosophy of rape to exist in the first place. That subreddit does need to be shut down because it incites rape, but shutting it down would only solve on symptom. It’s not the cure. We don’t want to shape the internet to our liking. We want a culture, both on and off the internet that is just.

4chan culture is all about being an internet nuisance. They don’t, as far as I can tell have any principals or goals in the wider world. They just troll on en masse to prove they can. It’s about their ego.

I think mocking misogyny (and along with it different types of bigotries) is maybe one of the best, most effective things we can do. It exposes reactionary ideas as bad, illogical and worthy of derision. That’s why we get so many trolls here who are upset by the “mocking misogyny” concept. Whether it’s concern trolls saying we’re doing feminism ineffectively by posting here or fake neutrality trolls complaining about how we chased them away from feminism with our meanness, these guys are pissed off that we’re not only objecting to their misogyny, but we’re failing to take them seriously. They’re enraged by our derision because they know they’re losing.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

That was the most pathetic blockquote fail ever. All I managed to do is type the <

Go me!