Last year, I wrote about a repellant little “community” on Reddit: the PhilosophyofRape subreddit, devoted to promoting what it called the corrective rape of “filthy, unmitigated, sluts … [t]hat badly need to be punished. Badly.”
Reddit being what it is, the subreddit remains up to this day. And now the folks behind it have taken their repugnant “philosophy” to the web. Earlier this week, one of the subreddit’s numerous moderators, a veritable cauldron of bigotries who calls himself European88, announced the grand opening of a new Philosophy of Rape website. He urged his fellow “philosophers” to “[s]ubscribe and submit your rape tips … !”
Like the subreddit before it, the site declares war on “harpies,” “hussies,” “[d]ecrepid filth, dressed like hookers and reaking like vodka” and “Belligerent. Entitled. Selfie taking, Tindr-whoring, Teenage-walking-herpes-sores.”
The “philosophers” also take aim at “vain, vile, venemous, femenist, filth,” particularly
[t]he kind who get conferences to talk about mens suicide rates shut down. The type of hussies who have lobbied effectively to remove due process from proceedings against men on college campuses.
In a post titled “Why is Rape Necessary,” the site sets forth its case for “correction.” (I’ve bolded the worst bits.)
1) Rape did serve important, healthy, and natural biological purposes historically in limiting the extent to which female bad behavior can go.
2. Women in many ways are like children, and most can not self-regulate very well, so in the absence of something like parents or a natural limiting force like rape, they just run amok and destroy their selves and everything they touch.
3. Because rape is so completely arm-barred back by the state, and feminism has grown to be this infestation that caused even the social consequences for female behavior to dissappear, we find ourselves in a precarious situation. Unbridled female sluttishness, entitlement, narcissism, vileness and destruction gone viral.
4. Such women need to be Corrected. Humbled. Brought back down to a healthy place and realistic mindset. For their own good as well as that of those around them. That particular corrective action is quite clear, the one that used to naturally limit the behavior: rape.
5. We are here to provide encouragement and advice how to do that and do it safely. Regression analysis to find out which variables make it less likely to get into legal trouble. Very few women report the rapes, what can you do to make it even less likely? Example: remind the victim that “no one will believe them”. When they orgasm (which is actually very common during rape, Google it) speak up and let them know that you are aware of it and that it will come out during trial if they reported it.
Yes, that’s right. After complaining that the feminist “infestation” has enabled “unbridled” female awfulness by drastically reducing the “natural limiting force [of] rape,” the rape “philosophers” acknowledge that most men who rape women face zero consequences for their action. Indeed, in another post, one “philosopher” declares that
We want to teach men that although it may be easier than ever for an innocent man to be convicted of rape when a consensual partner has buyers remorse, it’s also easier than ever for a guilty man to get away Scott free – so long as it’s done the way we advocate: actual rape-rape, as in dark-alley, ski mask, stranger rape.
Emphasis mine. Some of the rape “tips” offered on the site are wholly unoriginal:
Tell the harlot that you come from a rich family and that she will never successfully convict you of raping her in court. Tell her that, if she tries to sue you, you will counter-sue for a huge amount of money that will bankrupt her.
Pretty sure that one’s been used before.
Tell the harlot that, if she tells the police about the rape, you will kill her entire family. If she has children, tell her that you will rape her children before killing them.
That one too.
Other tips are little more than sadistic fantasies:
Put sugar into the harlot’s vagina to give her a yeast infection. This will be a mark of shame on her that she will be unable to forget, and she will have to relive the rape every time she seeks treatment for it. …
After raping the harlot, steal her clothes and write “WHORE” on her chest with a red marker. She will be forced to walk around naked with “WHORE” written on her chest, and it will be extremely humiliating for her.
Whether these rape “philosophers” are actually living out their repellant philosophy, I couldn’t tell you. They insist that they’re quite sincere.
Indeed, in a posting on slutHATE, one rape “philosopher” assured skeptics that
The Philosophy of Rape is as serious as a heart attack. We are a movement of angry, fed-up men – much like you – who have decided to take matters into our own hands. The simple fact of the matter is, simply sitting around and complaining about sluts on the Internet isn’t going to change anything. We need real-world action to correct the slut problem. That’s why The Philosophy of Rape was created. Sluts need real-world punishment, and we want to train an army of holy warriors to dish out that punishment. Your chances of getting caught are already slim, and we will teach you how to make 100% sure that you don’t get caught.
In another comment, he reported that while
I can’t openly admit to how many harlots I’ve corrected, but let’s just say that I do indeed practice what I preach.
He offered this lovely bit of advice to anyone thinking of following in his (alleged) footsteps:
It definitely helps if you build up to the act. Keep edging closer and closer to rape until you’re finally ready to do the deed. For example, send a harlot an anonymous message telling her you’re gonna rape her, then write “HARLOT” on her car, then finally rape her when the moment is right. Build up your courage by first committing smaller acts.
He urged others to take up his peculiar fight for, er, justice:
We are going to build an army of holy warriors to correct harlots and feminazi whores around the world. All it takes is a few Elliot Rodger types to get the ball rolling. What do you have to lose? Enlist in our rape army today, and we will teach you how to correct a new harlot a week and get away with it.
Apparently unafraid of legal consequences, the person posting all this gave what he said was his real name, claiming to be “Brother” Dean Saxton, a campus “activist” of sorts who several years ago caused a stir after holding a one-man protest at the University of Arizona, holding a sign reading “You Deserve Rape.”
In another thread, “Brother Dean” explained why he felt this slogan was so effective in angering feminists: .
NOTHING pisses off feminazis more than reminding them that they are filthy harlots who desperately need to be – and, deep down, WANT TO BE – raped.
He went on to explain why the kind of rape he advocates is the most public-spirited of all the different varieties of rape:
N*ggers rape because they are feral animals who cannot control their primitive biological urges. We rape because we are holy warriors on a mission to correct harlots and purge society of unmitigated female entitlement. The Philosophy of Rape is, ultimately, about fixing society. The only way to correct harlots and feminazis is by raping them.
If “Brother Dean” is European88, he’s kept himself busy since his college protest as a moderator of 157 of Reddit’s most loathsome subreddits, including /r/CoonTown, /r/WhiteRights, /r/nazi, /r/GasTheKikes, /r/Chimpout, /r/StormfrontForums and the lovely /r/N*ggerSafari.
Some of the slutHATE regulars dismissed “Brother Dean” as “disinfo” and “just another frustrated virgin in his basement spreading shit.” frenchy91, for his part, noted that
while i really don’t give a shit who you could rape as long as it’s not my girlfriend, nor familly member, i think you op should get raped by a group of n*ggers, just to know how it feels, then you could objectively speak about who diserve it or not. for now, you just sound like a desperate mysogincel
This is apparently what passes for a “moderate” position on slutHATE. Others there found Brother Dean’s message inspirational. A commenter calling himself mvp wrote that
i definitely support this movement
its time to fight back
“Fuck it,” wrote another. “I’ll rape a bitch for you.”
It would be easy enough to dismiss all of this as nothing more than the ridiculous fantasies of “frustrated virgin[s]” or the work of trolls. I really hope that’s all it is.
But we should remember that slutHATE is essentially a reincarnation of PUAhate, an online forum that was frequented by a young man named, yes, Elliot Rodger, who posted similarly hateful and similarly implausible-sounding comments there before setting out one evening a little over a year ago, intending to “slaughter every single spoiled, stuck-up, blonde slut” in a popular sorority house at the University of California, Santa Barbara.
H/T — MoonMetropolis
Are you comparing reddit infighting to the Middle East? The real world Middle East, where millions of people live? That’s odd.
Also, I don’t partake in an “eternal victim pity party”; I do discuss, mock, champion, ignore and criticize various stuff I read about on the Internet. That sort of thing definitely lacks an overall party vibe, but can be enjoyable.
The pity party thing is also hilarious because this entire post is about a bunch of guys going “WOMEN ARE RUINING EVERYTHING BAWWWWWWWWW”.
@Sevenofmine
I haven’t gotten any wildly hilarious plays on my screen name like “SevenofHiveMind” and “SevenOfCupcakeFarts”. Nothing. Truth be told, I’m a bit jelly FE putting that extra effort in his garbled responses to you.
I find it strange how FE keeps talking about self denfense (and threadjacking) are apparently the most powerful counteragents to rapists, considering that he was assaulted while drugged, as a child (I offer my sympathies to him regarding that, no one should ever have to endure such a thing).
But it should make the point rather clear, I would think. People cannot defend themselves well, or at all, if they are drugged or children. This is one of the many reasons why things like preventative measures, identifying predators (like, say, the ones that manage the aforementioned and despicable subreddit), and breaking down rape culture is important. No one deserves to be raped, including those who are unable for whatever reasons to defend themselves physically. Expecting self-defense to solve everything is naive at best.
Y’know, we often joke about trolls acting like badly-behaved 12-year-olds, but this twit’s “LOL FARTS” sense of humour (“Fartiste” works because it rhymes, “SevenOfCupcakeFarts” neither rhymes nor makes any fucking sense), usage of 4Chan terminology and babble about trolling techniques makes me think he might be literally 12.
@crooked
Eh, eh? How about…Tooked? That one good? Named after a “superfluous” character from LotR? Dooked? Wooked? Poo’ed? Eh, eh?
I don’t get the impression of him being that young but I do get the impression that he doesn’t actually comprehend that our goal is not actually to “defeat” the PoR subreddit at some internet dick measuring contest.
See FE? Pandapool is putting the effort in, despite “brooked” not being the easiest screen name to mock. I’d personally go with Tooked, but that’s just me,
I’m just waiting for the inevitable Fart-Scented Farting Fart Chairs.
Nooked? Rooked? Yooked? Ko–wait, noooooooo…
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Mooked? Like, you’re superfluous character from LotR on Sauron’s side.
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Gooked? (I hope that’s not something bad.) Flooked? Like, your existence is a flook?
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Snooked? Like, you’re like Snookie? Would that offend you?
I’d turn Snooked into Snookered, it’s a real word and suggests I’ve been duped, probably by feminism.
Mooked is pretty good, I enjoy the old timey word mook.
Gooked is in the same neighborhood of an Asian slur, so it’s not so good.
I’m finally off to bed. Fart night to you all. Teehee. Fart.
@brooked
Fuck, I thought it sounded bad for some reason…Why don’t I google things more?
Scented, if I were going to do something with your screen name, it would obviously be something related to scented urinal cakes or patchouli. Brooked on the other hand is simple, Babbling Brook of course. Nice double meaning in all one turn of a phrase. I have seen no reason to go that route with either of you. SevenofBirkenstockHippyToejam (yeah I know it’s too long) on the other hand instantly came at me with both guns blazing with cis this, normative that, screaming bigot and hater as much as she can, purposely trying to find ways to be offended in everything I say. Like I said, the typical Berkeley stereotype.
I’m not anti-feminist, I’m anti double standards. Josh Duggar admits to the public he molested his adopted sisters, everyone wants his head on a pike. Lena Dunham talks about how she molested her little sister in her book, nothing happens. It’s safe to assume Cosby is a dirty word here, but Tom Hardy going in to detail about his Polanski style drug fueled sex antics, crickets chirping. Before you say anything, when both people wake up in bed the next morning and ask, “Who the hell are you and what happened last night?” consent never came in to play. Sarah Silverman does a half hour show devoted to queefs, she is applauded. Andrew Clay does one joke about queefs, let the rage begin.
Catalpa, You’re working under the assumption that the assclown over there has actually made it out of his mother’s basement to even get within a modest proximity of a woman, much less have physical contact with one. Also, I never said self defense is the only answer, you’re making a gross generalization. I’m saying that once you reach the age of majority, it’s a viable option. Sadly in the US it’s perfectly legal to publish fiction online covering just about any sexual deviancy. Incest, pedophilia, sexual slavery, you name it and it’s out there. Unless you can prove Stormtrooper88 over there has actually engaged in any of those activities in real life, he is free to do whatever he wants as long as he is entertained by it. If any LEO does go talk to him about it, all he has to say is, “Fiction, fantasy, never happened.” and not a damn thing can be done to him.
FE_Power sez:
What color is the sky on your planet? I responded to exactly one of your posts in any detail at all and I never used the terms “cis” or “normative”. I did call you a bigot once, because you clearly are. I haven’t even responded to the bulk of you’ve said, let alone expressed any offense at it. Of course, the vast majority of what you’ve said isn’t even coherent which is why I’ve only quoted a few lines here and there and opined that you’re a fucking clown. Because you’re a fucking clown.
I’m a goth, not a hippie. =)
FE_Power:
Why are you so invested in no one taking this seriously? Why are you so invested in mocking people who do? What are you gaining from this? Seriously. You’ve kept this up for a couple days now. I mean, again, this is a thread where people are expressing completely understandable and valid disgust. This is a thread with a bunch of caring people trying to do whatever they can to fight against this shit, even if it doesn’t have that much impact. So, what exactly are you “winning” here? Why are you so invested?
I honestly don’t get it. When I see people trying to improve the world, my reaction isn’t to mock, no matter what I, personally, think the actual impact of their actions will be, as long as they aren’t hurting anybody. So, why all the teal deers?
Fe mad. Fe so mad.
Dudebro, calling for the rape of little girls is not protected speech. Take a class. Read a book. Learn something new today!
While you’re at it, learn how to funny. You’re insults are weak. You are weak. You support rapist scum because you are or wish you were rapist scum. You are not clever enough to obfuscate that fact. You may as well wave a “I <3 raping kiddies" flag. You're that obvious and that odious. You could not successfully put anyone down because no one could ever be lower down than you already are.
You hate women, especially women you can't wipe your feet on. We make you feel helpless because you think you should be able to shout us down and abuse us without response, but you can't. We'll hand you your ass. Twice.
You're even afraid of little girls. You want little girls to be raped into submission (Newsflash, that don't work. There are plenty of survivors who could snap you like a pencil with a glance.) because when a little girl looks you in the eye unafraid, you feel yourself as you really are: Powerless and disgusting. You ain't shit and you know it.
Go bleat about how mean the wicked women are for not letting baby raping scum encourage other baby raping scum to rape babies without consequence to the rest of your baby raping scum buddies. We're all full up on male tears here.
Sparky,
IMO, when they cry for the poor, poor rapists’ right to rape and incite others to rape there is only one reason.
FE is another cheerleader for rape culture. He wants inciting rape to have no consequence and you know it never stops there. Inciting is not the only thing these smeglords want to be consequence free. It never is.
When did anyone here call holding the door open equivalent to rape? He’s coming onto to a thread about a forum advocating for corrective rape. A forum that reddit refuses to take down. Because freeze peach. And FE is coming in here with made up straw feminists to paint the concept of rape culture as something that over sensitive hysterical feminists have made up.
Sadly, I don’t think he’s a 12 year old either. The obsession with Berkeley hippies suggests baby boomer. Early gen xer maybe. I’ve never heard anyone my age obsess about Berkeley hippies before. I don’t see a really young guy thinking about it either.
. I’m an arrogant highly opinionated abrasive asshole, but then again, so are you. The difference between us is I know I can be an abrasive asshole, where as you have deluded yourself in to thinking your being entirely reasonable and think you hold the high ground.
I don’t think that’s the difference. Sure, I’ll agree that you are arrogant, highly opinionated, abrasive, and an asshole. I’ll even go so far as to agree that many of us can be abrasive at times. The real difference is that while we regard it as a character flaw, you appear to have made it central to your identity.
What flows from that is telling. You come in here with the knowledge that you are, in fact, an abrasive asshole and then pitch a fit when people react accordingly. Why? Privilege. You see (who am I kidding, you probably don’t) you have somehow been socialized to expect your asshole behaviour to go largely unchallenged. Women, on the other hand, are largely taught not to say things that might upset people, even when it is probably in their best interest to do so.
Thankfully, people here know better. Sometimes, it’s okay to be an asshole, such as when you’re advocating for people who are unable to do so for themselves or, you know, taking a stand against someone promoting rape. That’s what these wonderful humans have been doing.
So sure, maybe we’re not being entirely reasonable, but we’re at least being assholes for a reason. You’re just doing so because you think you’re entitled to it and nobody wants to be associated with an asshole that doesn’t understand when it’s appropriate to release its shit.
>:( curse you blockquote mammoth
Posters like FE_Power always make me feel deeply awkward on their behalf, so I find it hard to begin to deconstruct the content of their posts because yeah, awkward. It’s the embarrassing self-importance and arrogance, trying so hard to come across as edgy and cool and the ‘only rational voice in the room’ that they’re haven’t stopped to notice how the other people they’ve been monologuing to are sloooowly backing away. And not due to, “My goodness, I can’t begin to argue with that, it challenges my world view too much!” but because, “Um, this person’s a jerk and they’ve got some serious superiority issues, I really don’t want to get sucked into conversation here”.
I AM VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND IMPORTANT, RESPECT MY FRAGILE EGO- I MEAN, AUTHORITAY!
The lack of awareness is incredible. I mean, telling other people they can’t internet by … posting eyeball-breakingly long screeds in a comment section full of people you supposedly don’t like. While including in those screeds lengthy descriptions of deeply personal experiences for the sake of scoring imaginary points, alongside insulting other people’s handles using the word ‘fart’.
Yes, it’s clearly everyone else who ‘fails ‘ at the internet.
Hey, FE, let me ask you something. I hope you don’t find my questions too intrusive. Did you have a gun when you were raped? Or a tazer? Or mace? Even if you did, do you really think they would have helped you? I somehow doubt it. And i find it weird that you, as a rape victim are making excuses for potential rapists and their sympathizers because MUH FREEZE PEACH! And there is such as a thing as rape culture. Look at Steubenville. Look at the recent Duggar case. It exists. It’s when a community protects rapists from facing the consequences of their actions, either directly or indirectly. The fact that you’re comparing that to wearing Betty Boop ties shows how little you care.
Edit: Do you really think they would have helped.