Last year, I wrote about a repellant little “community” on Reddit: the PhilosophyofRape subreddit, devoted to promoting what it called the corrective rape of “filthy, unmitigated, sluts … [t]hat badly need to be punished. Badly.”
Reddit being what it is, the subreddit remains up to this day. And now the folks behind it have taken their repugnant “philosophy” to the web. Earlier this week, one of the subreddit’s numerous moderators, a veritable cauldron of bigotries who calls himself European88, announced the grand opening of a new Philosophy of Rape website. He urged his fellow “philosophers” to “[s]ubscribe and submit your rape tips … !”
Like the subreddit before it, the site declares war on “harpies,” “hussies,” “[d]ecrepid filth, dressed like hookers and reaking like vodka” and “Belligerent. Entitled. Selfie taking, Tindr-whoring, Teenage-walking-herpes-sores.”
The “philosophers” also take aim at “vain, vile, venemous, femenist, filth,” particularly
[t]he kind who get conferences to talk about mens suicide rates shut down. The type of hussies who have lobbied effectively to remove due process from proceedings against men on college campuses.
In a post titled “Why is Rape Necessary,” the site sets forth its case for “correction.” (I’ve bolded the worst bits.)
1) Rape did serve important, healthy, and natural biological purposes historically in limiting the extent to which female bad behavior can go.
2. Women in many ways are like children, and most can not self-regulate very well, so in the absence of something like parents or a natural limiting force like rape, they just run amok and destroy their selves and everything they touch.
3. Because rape is so completely arm-barred back by the state, and feminism has grown to be this infestation that caused even the social consequences for female behavior to dissappear, we find ourselves in a precarious situation. Unbridled female sluttishness, entitlement, narcissism, vileness and destruction gone viral.
4. Such women need to be Corrected. Humbled. Brought back down to a healthy place and realistic mindset. For their own good as well as that of those around them. That particular corrective action is quite clear, the one that used to naturally limit the behavior: rape.
5. We are here to provide encouragement and advice how to do that and do it safely. Regression analysis to find out which variables make it less likely to get into legal trouble. Very few women report the rapes, what can you do to make it even less likely? Example: remind the victim that “no one will believe them”. When they orgasm (which is actually very common during rape, Google it) speak up and let them know that you are aware of it and that it will come out during trial if they reported it.
Yes, that’s right. After complaining that the feminist “infestation” has enabled “unbridled” female awfulness by drastically reducing the “natural limiting force [of] rape,” the rape “philosophers” acknowledge that most men who rape women face zero consequences for their action. Indeed, in another post, one “philosopher” declares that
We want to teach men that although it may be easier than ever for an innocent man to be convicted of rape when a consensual partner has buyers remorse, it’s also easier than ever for a guilty man to get away Scott free – so long as it’s done the way we advocate: actual rape-rape, as in dark-alley, ski mask, stranger rape.
Emphasis mine. Some of the rape “tips” offered on the site are wholly unoriginal:
Tell the harlot that you come from a rich family and that she will never successfully convict you of raping her in court. Tell her that, if she tries to sue you, you will counter-sue for a huge amount of money that will bankrupt her.
Pretty sure that one’s been used before.
Tell the harlot that, if she tells the police about the rape, you will kill her entire family. If she has children, tell her that you will rape her children before killing them.
That one too.
Other tips are little more than sadistic fantasies:
Put sugar into the harlot’s vagina to give her a yeast infection. This will be a mark of shame on her that she will be unable to forget, and she will have to relive the rape every time she seeks treatment for it. …
After raping the harlot, steal her clothes and write “WHORE” on her chest with a red marker. She will be forced to walk around naked with “WHORE” written on her chest, and it will be extremely humiliating for her.
Whether these rape “philosophers” are actually living out their repellant philosophy, I couldn’t tell you. They insist that they’re quite sincere.
Indeed, in a posting on slutHATE, one rape “philosopher” assured skeptics that
The Philosophy of Rape is as serious as a heart attack. We are a movement of angry, fed-up men – much like you – who have decided to take matters into our own hands. The simple fact of the matter is, simply sitting around and complaining about sluts on the Internet isn’t going to change anything. We need real-world action to correct the slut problem. That’s why The Philosophy of Rape was created. Sluts need real-world punishment, and we want to train an army of holy warriors to dish out that punishment. Your chances of getting caught are already slim, and we will teach you how to make 100% sure that you don’t get caught.
In another comment, he reported that while
I can’t openly admit to how many harlots I’ve corrected, but let’s just say that I do indeed practice what I preach.
He offered this lovely bit of advice to anyone thinking of following in his (alleged) footsteps:
It definitely helps if you build up to the act. Keep edging closer and closer to rape until you’re finally ready to do the deed. For example, send a harlot an anonymous message telling her you’re gonna rape her, then write “HARLOT” on her car, then finally rape her when the moment is right. Build up your courage by first committing smaller acts.
He urged others to take up his peculiar fight for, er, justice:
We are going to build an army of holy warriors to correct harlots and feminazi whores around the world. All it takes is a few Elliot Rodger types to get the ball rolling. What do you have to lose? Enlist in our rape army today, and we will teach you how to correct a new harlot a week and get away with it.
Apparently unafraid of legal consequences, the person posting all this gave what he said was his real name, claiming to be “Brother” Dean Saxton, a campus “activist” of sorts who several years ago caused a stir after holding a one-man protest at the University of Arizona, holding a sign reading “You Deserve Rape.”
In another thread, “Brother Dean” explained why he felt this slogan was so effective in angering feminists: .
NOTHING pisses off feminazis more than reminding them that they are filthy harlots who desperately need to be – and, deep down, WANT TO BE – raped.
He went on to explain why the kind of rape he advocates is the most public-spirited of all the different varieties of rape:
N*ggers rape because they are feral animals who cannot control their primitive biological urges. We rape because we are holy warriors on a mission to correct harlots and purge society of unmitigated female entitlement. The Philosophy of Rape is, ultimately, about fixing society. The only way to correct harlots and feminazis is by raping them.
If “Brother Dean” is European88, he’s kept himself busy since his college protest as a moderator of 157 of Reddit’s most loathsome subreddits, including /r/CoonTown, /r/WhiteRights, /r/nazi, /r/GasTheKikes, /r/Chimpout, /r/StormfrontForums and the lovely /r/N*ggerSafari.
Some of the slutHATE regulars dismissed “Brother Dean” as “disinfo” and “just another frustrated virgin in his basement spreading shit.” frenchy91, for his part, noted that
while i really don’t give a shit who you could rape as long as it’s not my girlfriend, nor familly member, i think you op should get raped by a group of n*ggers, just to know how it feels, then you could objectively speak about who diserve it or not. for now, you just sound like a desperate mysogincel
This is apparently what passes for a “moderate” position on slutHATE. Others there found Brother Dean’s message inspirational. A commenter calling himself mvp wrote that
i definitely support this movement
its time to fight back
“Fuck it,” wrote another. “I’ll rape a bitch for you.”
It would be easy enough to dismiss all of this as nothing more than the ridiculous fantasies of “frustrated virgin[s]” or the work of trolls. I really hope that’s all it is.
But we should remember that slutHATE is essentially a reincarnation of PUAhate, an online forum that was frequented by a young man named, yes, Elliot Rodger, who posted similarly hateful and similarly implausible-sounding comments there before setting out one evening a little over a year ago, intending to “slaughter every single spoiled, stuck-up, blonde slut” in a popular sorority house at the University of California, Santa Barbara.
H/T — MoonMetropolis
Lynn: thank you for mentioning that; I’d gotten caught up in the argument here. I just went back in the thread and found the petition link and signed it myself.
I’ll insult you again if you say more stupid shit, which I’m sure you will because you’re not thinking at all.
People like you are why being in the left wing is like being stuck in a circular firing squad.
Yep, I’m destroying the Left. Me, personally. Guilty.
BAWW FEMINISTS ARE MEANIE-MEANIE PANTS BAWW.
(“Troll-adjacent” is being nice to this one.)
@PoM
It’s it wrong of me to say I’m lovin’ your argument? Sincerly.
…
Okay, that doesn’t make sense because I originally put “banter”.
I need a break from YouTube.
(At least I didn’t use salt.)
Rather than continue to argue with you about the matter, I just decided to make a donation to RAINN in your honour. I can furnish with you a screenshot if you would like.
So you think I’m a deliberately insincere anti-feminist here attempting to false-flag? You really are a circular firing squad, if you believe that all members of the Left who don’t agree with you on everything must be conservatives.
Also, Scented Fucking Hard Chairs: fuck you for putting words in my mouth.
@Allison
Whoa, where did this come from? There’s a difference in poking holes in your logic about rape prevention and the whole being left leaning thing?
I haven’t been paying attention a lot, but it seems you’re the only one who brought up politics. Literally just you until PoM made the joke about personally destroying the left.
No one here is talking about your political leanings, only you are. It’s almost like no one cares about that but rather what you’re saying about preventing rape.
You are a little too defensive about your position, so now I’m thinking you aren’t here in good faith. Just, IDK, watch some kitten videos or something. Really think about what you’ve been saying compared to what everyone else has.
AllisonW, I think you’re dishonest. Not to me, because I see right through you, but to yourself. You think you have this glorious answer, and you’re so attached to the poetry of it that you’ve deceived yourself into thinking your victim-blaming bullshit is something other than victim-blaming bullshit.
The fact that you obviously expect me to be offended or something by the way your dispose of your money makes me laugh. Are you 10?
@Allison
No, we — or I, at least — find your ideas incredibly untenable. Except the idea that we’re destroying the Left, which is just plain laughable.
Of course, haven’t you been ignoring me? Or perhaps just not noticing me.
Hey, Mammotheers: think she’s ignoring me because I refused to be baited into an argument with you guys about how… apparently admitting disabled people exist is just as patronizing as throwing them under the bus? Since she responded to that with a tiny patronizing comment, I’m guessing maybe, but I guess my teal deer herd could just have gotten lost in the woods.
And to Allison, again, on the whole thing about how apparently we’re trying to stop her reading the blog now: You don’t have to go home, but we’re not gonna tolerate your garbage here.
Yep.
To tell you the truth, I think Allison isn’t a troll, just someone with some hard-ingrain beliefs that need to be thought over a bit more. :/ Of course, I wouldn’t say I’m the best judge of character either, but, well, IDK, Allison is just not setting off troll alarms for me. I’m probably wrong though. Horrible, terribly wrong.
@PoM
Ah, I’m glad that I’m not just being completely irrational. Too much bad “therapy” in childhood; makes it hard to trust myself sometimes. Sorry about that — I’m not having a very good night for brain. :/
@Pandapool
I don’t think she started off as a troll, but the whole “you all are destroying the leeeeeft” thing sent her catapulting into trollhood, whether she wanted to be there or not.
No, Allison. Having different political beliefs than you while also being generally left-leaning does not mean that we are destroying the left. It means that the left is made up of individuals instead of carbon copies of you.
@andiexist
That cheeky little “anytime!” could have meant that AllisonW wasn’t paying a lick of attention to what you were saying, or it could have been a particularly assholish brush-off. Either way, you didn’t imagine that it was dismissive and that she’s been ignoring you ever since.
No, I was mocking you through snarky paraphrase. Learn what words mean.
@andiexist
Yeah, I mean, it’s just really weird Allison brought political leanings into this discussion. Like, are we even sure we’re even all left-leaning here? Different countries have different political climates and definitions of “left” and “right” after all. We might have some conservatives in the mix.
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs implied I’m not a feminist by accusing me of bawwing about the feminists being mean. It was in the form of sarcasm, but quite clear. If she somehow meant something different by it, I may owe her an apology, but I’m not optimistic (I rarely am). Yes, she hit a sore spot, which you might have noticed.
Anyway, I do agree with RAINN’s approach to preventing rape, which is about both collective *and* individual approaches, including advocating for law enforcement to actually prosecute rape, educating the public about consent, attacking just-a-bystander cultural norms, and also teaching individuals about how to protect themselves and others. I like that comprehensive approach, and on top of it, they have actual lobbying power.
As far as politics go, uh, feminism is kind of a political issue, and one strongly associated with the Left. Not all people on the Left are feminists, but most of the feminists I’ve encountered–be they strangers, acquaintances, people I can’t stand, friends, or myself, are somewhere on the left half of the political spectrum, and Internet feminism is sadly fraught with the same internal warfare as the Internet Left in general–this kind of infighting isn’t at all unique. I don’t think the people here are insincere, even if they think I am, and even if I disagree with them, and even if I’m pissed off.
@Panda
I consider myself to be pretty much a centrist, leaning more to the left or right depending on the issue (definitely very left on social issues). Of course, an Australian centrist is about equivalent to an American super-mega-ultra-socialist, so…
@Pandapool
You’re right, especially given that America leans much farther to the right than most of Europe. (Perhaps all, but I dunno. I don’t keep up with European politics as much as I should.)
PoM; I’d kind of hoped you’d dislike it, but even if you don’t, I don’t regret doing something constructive with my anger.
You are 10, aren’t you?
Damn, now I kind of feel bad about clobbering you with political theory.
OK, the political thing is because I’m an American, and feminism is pretty firmly on the left side of the spectrum here–anywhere from centre-left to far Left, depending upon the variety.