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A MGTOWs lament: “The fact that slut walks exist make me wish I didn’t live on this planet anymore.”

Kathrine Switzer, one of the first women to run the Boston Marathon, attacked by a race official trying to pull off her numbers
First, women had to take back the day: Kathrine Switzer, one of the first women to run the Boston Marathon, in 1967, was attacked by a race official trying to pull off her numbers

So over on the MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) subreddit, the regulars are discussing the various ways they’re oppressed by a Nike-sponsored women-only nighttime 10k run called “We Own the Night.” Basically, it’s Take Back the Night with running, and Nike.

Well, a guy who calls himself “DegradedSerf” is having none of it. Because lesbianism? And a lack of women in the stage-construction business?

The two things I wanted to point out are the obvious lesbian connotations, there are DJs and dancing and what not until late, women only on a massive scale, and the fact that although the theme is claiming public spaces at night for females, I worked on assembling and deassembling all the stages, lighting, etc. etc. and there were no women working on the whole site. 

You know, I hate to tell you this, fella, but there are places where there is lesbian dancing and “what not until late” every single night of the week. Also karaoke, sometimes. Google “lesbian bars.”

So anyway, “We Own the Night” is a sign of the End Times for normal manly men.

If you combine it with the slutwalk phenomenon now women have more rights and privileges than ever before and now a feature of the political and cultural landscape is these mass, semi-sexual, female only (eunuchs sometimes tolerated) demonstrations that public space, (physical and psychological) belongs to women and they intend to make it inimical to males and no expression of masculinity will be tolerated.

DegradedSerf’s lament about the slut walks inspired this little exchange:

Nicholas_ 5 points 1 day ago  Knowing the fact that slut walks exist make me wish I didn't live on this planet anymore. permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]RecQuery 1 point 5 hours ago  I sometimes wish we could go live in a colony somewhere just to show the world what things would be like without us. Even if you don't engage you're still supporting society by being there.

Huh. I’ll admit, there are a number of things that sometimes cause me to think I don’t want to live on this planet any more. You know, like genocide, rape as a weapon of war, the millions of people on earth who are living in extreme poverty, that sort of thing.

This guy is driven to existential despair by … women protesting rape.

 

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Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
9 years ago

I don’t think Stanton and Anthony, particularly Anthony, should be unthinkingly tossed on the “white supremacist” pile.

I don’t think they should be tossed onto any pile, but to pretend they had no faults in the racism department is just as bad. Anthony and Stanton hooked up with a man who was pro-slavery, and fully endorsed him and never said a single bad thing about him. They wrote/edited a newsletter that eventually became full of racist dogwhistles. They had both said some questionably racist things prior to the split with Sojourner Truth, which makes their association with Train look pretty in-character.

You can read the Revolution online if you like. You can find it here (the issues are not in order no matter how you try to sort them, though). Speaking only for myself, I found a lot of both racism and classism in there. There are a lot of statements that are generalized to “women” that really only applied to well-to-do white women, and anyone who wasn’t well-to-do or white was erased.

These women did great things, but to pretend they weren’t racist in the slightest, or to pretend that doesn’t matter, is unfair to non-white women, and it contributes to the hostile atmosphere that many black feminists still feel from white feminists.

andemilybites
9 years ago

I wish there was a “We Own The Night” run every single night, because we bloody don’t. I did one with my sister last year and loved it, thousands of women running together.

Tonight I went for a run (alone) at 8pm and was followed by two men, separately, at different points, as well as honked at, shouted at, pointed at, shouted at again, and stared at incessantly. As is my right, and privilege.

Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

Falconer | June 4, 2015 at 3:25 pm
And I say that, and I *like* what Superman can be when he’s well written.

I personally only like Supes when he goes straight up Lawful Evil. The Injustice: Gods Among Us comics do a FANTASTIC job of that (and Harley gets some fucking baller character development too, so that’s a plus).

The All-‘Murrican Boy Scout shtick doesn’t do it for me. It’s cute, but it wears out its welcome real quick.

A.A. Wils
9 years ago

Oh FFS MGTOWs, go your own way already. Don’t let the door hit ya in the arse on the way out.

A.A. Wils
9 years ago

Yeah, I guess that’s all I can contribute. I’ve been up since 4:30 am, worked hard today, and am very tired.

Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

I wasn’t fond of the North American marketing for Splatoon. The Japanese commercials were way fucking cooler.

Compare that to the constant, peppy chant of “You’re a Kid now! You’re a Squid now!” ad infinitum.

I personally am really sick and tired of people trying to “kidify” everything when it comes to North America. Kids are capable of handling stuff that isn’t Kidz Bop and wrapped in bubble wrap.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

At the very least the American version shows actual gameplay rather than prerender stuff.

Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

You rang?

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
9 years ago

American ads are weird. They either Kidz Bop everything or American Kirby everything (timewaster warning for TV Tropes link =P).

gilshalos
9 years ago

I have to admit that I never got into most of the Batman/Superman/JLA etc etc stuff. And I only know Ivy by repute.

Except the Arkham Asylum graphic novel. That is wonderful!

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

Is that an actual ad? Not that I understand Japanese, but it seems to be rather wordy and explains things more than advertise things, if you understand?

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
9 years ago

I kind of want to see the American ad now out of curiosity. The Japanese one is the same as the one here in the UK (except, y’know, without the Japanese language in it) and I want to see what you mean by Kidz Bop…what is that anyway?

*toddles off to YouTube*

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

And we all know why Splatoon is being marketed to kids.

We have all these hardcore gaaaammeuurururrrs that fucking whine about games not having 60fps, who complain about games not having the best graphics, who want fucking REEEALLISMSMSMMSS and blood and guts everywhere, who fucking buy Call of Duty every fucking year even though it’s the same fucking game every time.

So, instead of marketing towards the UDFHASHFH THIIIIIS GAAAME FUUKKKING SUUUUUUUUKZZ BEEECUUUUUZZZ IT DOESNT RUUNNS AT 723477FPS IN MUUIUULTPLLAYTERRFS 14+ crowd and is instead marketing towards the easier to please kiddie crowd.

Also, as fair as I understand, Japan is much more accepting of cute things for every age. It’s why they have cute little cartoons on many warning signs rather than generic stick people, the anime advertisements for many things or those cute road construction signs.

http://www.equipmentworld.com/photos-japans-road-construction-signs-are-cute-cartoon-animals/

Cute is okay in Japan. Cute doesn’t automatically make it for kids. Cute sells.

EXXXPLOOOOOOSIONS CRASSSSHES GUUUUNNSSS AND BOOOOOOOOOBZ sell well in America.

Thus why Splatoon’s ads are kiddified in the States but not in Japan.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
9 years ago

M, you’re a terrible person for that link, easily twice as bad as Gandhi.

@Paradoxical:
Someday I want to read a retelling of Superman in the Daenerys Targaryen mold: he strives to uphold his boy-scout principles with immense power but with naivety when it comes to the realities of society, and as a result everything crumbles around him. I want to read this so badly that I may end up having to write it.

Insidious_Sock
Insidious_Sock
9 years ago

weirwoodtreehugger said:

“Why? What’s wrong with a boy wanting to dress as a female character? I understand that cultural norms are against it, so there may be social consequences. But if you’re good with a girl dressing as a male character and not the other way around, you’re saying men and boy are superior to women and girls and so there’s something wrong with a boy wanting to portray a female character.”

That’s not exactly what I am saying. At all.

I am saying sending my daughter to school as “Spider Girl” or “Spider Man” in a Spiderman costume is a different situation than sending my boy to school as Tinker Bell or in a tutu. It should not be that way, but it IS that way. So as a parent, I have to decide how to handle the situation if my son were to request a tutu for his grade 2 Halloween costume.

So how to handle that one…I’ll encourage my son to do what HE wants and chooses to do. But I won’t send him into a social meat grinder and *avoid* telling him about possible social repercussions just so I don’t feel that I’ve influenced his decision.

We will discuss it all. Why he might get picked on, why that’s wrong, and what he would do about it, and which responses are okay and which are not. (Punching a kid in the nose would be a NOT, for example).

I guess I do expect my kids to risk being singled out for standing up for what is right. I do it all the time and don’t give it a second thought. But they’re my kids. So I have to protect them WHILE teaching them right from wrong.

In a word, it’s not always as cut and dried and simple as some would make it out to be.

Parents who would say “Simple. He’s sent to school in the tutu without any further discussion”… I’m not good with that.

There is a thin red line between teaching kids hard lessons and making tough choices and throwing them into a meat grinder in the name of social justice.

Call me a ___________ for thinking it’s a continuum and not a black/white issue. That’s your right.

As a parent, how I raise my kids… that’s my right. 😉

Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

@EJ (The Other One): That’s kind of what happens in Injustice: Gods Among Us, actually. It ends up in a civil war between Batman and Superman, with all the DC ‘Verse characters taking sides.

Batman’s all like “No, no killing!”, and Supes is like “IT DOESN’T WORK! BADDIES ARE ALWAYS BAD! KILL ALL THE BADDIES! ARGLEBARGLE!”.

To keep it as spoiler-free as possible.

Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

sunnysombrera | June 4, 2015 at 5:32 pm
I kind of want to see the American ad now out of curiosity. The Japanese one is the same as the one here in the UK (except, y’know, without the Japanese language in it)

May the Gods and Goddesses have mercy upon your soul. That theme tune is torture.

and I want to see what you mean by Kidz Bop…what is that anyway?

*toddles off to YouTube*

Kidz Bop is a franchise built off of taking songs that are popular at the time and having kids sing them and changing the lyrics to be more “kid friendly”, so kids can listen to the “popular songs” and feel all adult and stuff, but the parents get their verbal bubble wrap. (Because all popular music is about sex and drugs and violence!)

And they got 29 volumes of this.

Here’s their original commercial from 2001.

I remember this coming out. This scares me.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
9 years ago

The funny part is… Splatoon’s backstory is really fucking dark and creepy. I won’t spoil it, but it seriously puts most zombie apocalypse games to shame. And that’s not even getting into the NPC who’s a thinly-disguised drug addict… They sneaked some serious crap past the radar with this one.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

@SFHC

Whoa, really?

That actually pique my interest because that means there’s an actual story in the game. I thought it would just be a generic shoot ’em up like thing that concentrates more on multiplayer and gameplay than story.

Still don’t have a Wii U though.

gilshalos
9 years ago

OK, feeling old again now. I was 30 in 2001

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
9 years ago

@Panda

Yeah, I wasn’t expecting a story either, but it’s unlocked through collectables in the one-player campaign. ^^;

Catalpa
Catalpa
9 years ago

I came in here to tell people that Steam’s got a sale on all their Fallout stuff. And also that I bought the entire series now because it was $25 for all 5 (non expansion) games and I have (gasp) never played any of them before.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

@SFHC

Now I’m gonna have to go and spoil it for myself through TV TROPES thank you very much.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

@Catalpa

:O

Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

I already got 1 and 2 from GOG for free, and a friend of mine (thanks to Steam’s handy sharing feature) has 1, 2, Tactics, 3 GotY edition, and I have New Vegas and some of the DLC.

I’m good. : D

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