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We Harnessed the Male Utility to Feed You

Man building civilization: The early years
Man building civilization: The early years

Even though I run a blog with the deliberately ironic title “We Hunted the Mammoth,” I’m still regularly amazed by how eager men who’ve accomplished nothing of value in their entire lives are to claim a kind of vicarious credit, by virtue of being men, for everything good that we humans have accomplished here on planet earth.

Consider this astoundingly un-self-aware bit of almost literal we-hunted-the-mammothing from a recent A Voice for Men post, written (very, very badly) by Peter Wright and Paul Elam:

Harnessing men’s utility can be witnessed from the erection of Stonehenge to the Roman Empire to the moon landings. Cures for diseases and vaccines to prevent them happened from the intensely intelligent actions of the human male. Exploring new territories and engineering the transport to send people to new places has changed the world, almost all of it through risk and hardship borne by men. Men have driven civilization forward since we first walked away from the African savannah.  Men’s blood, sweat, tears and sacrifices are the fuel rods that have always driven the big machine of our society.

So much passive voice! So many mixed metaphors! Can anyone explain to me how blood, sweat and tears (liquids) can be fuel rods (solids, specifically “long, slender, zirconium metal tube[s] containing pellets of fissionable material”)? Or how “sacrifices” (an abstract concept) fit into the mix?

I will give an official We Hunted the Mammoth Award of Artistry to anyone who can draw me a picture — or make a diagram — of Wright and Elam’s terrible paragraph.

Oh, in case anyone is wondering, the ultimate point of that Wright and Elam post is to try to convince troubled men not to go to therapists unless the therapists are wise to the alleged evils of “gynocentrism.” You know, the evil force that made men do all that hard work for the lazy women of the world, who apparently spent all of human history watching soap operas and complaining about the men who were doing all that exploring and engineering and utility-ing and intensely intelligent actioning for them.

If you are searching for a therapist make sure and ask one question: “Have you heard of gynocentrism?” If they haven’t walk away and don’t hire them. In fact be prepared to do so much walking away that your steps will number enough to walk around the entire planet three times.

Well, that last bit, however cringeworthy the prose, is probably true. Because blaming men’s problems on “gynocentrism” is not just psychological quackery, it’s a highly obscure form of psychological quackery.

What a strange way the folks at AVFM have of demonstrating “compassion for men and boys,” as their old slogan had it.

Also, I’m pretty sure that at some point in the development of human civilization, and possibly even before it, women did some things too.

 

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Falconer
Falconer
9 years ago

We’re talking about the massive erections in England, and nobody mentioned Cerne Abbas giant yet? Well, I’m here to remedy that.

Kinda puts your average toilet-stall scribbler to shame, dunnit? Someone in the mists of prehistory looked at a perfectly blank hill side and started to really dream.

Falconer
Falconer
9 years ago

It’s a countdown timer with 11 hours left on the official Fallout website with a rating pending ESRB sticker in the corner. And Bethesda is doing their first ever E3 appearance this year.

I may have made an ungodly noise. Nothing I can ever make will top the dog-startling noise I made when I first heard of XCOM (2012), but as ungodly noises go, it was a good one.

Falconer
Falconer
9 years ago

Speaking of erections, here’s London’s art deco cock:

http://thebigfatnoodle.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/image-from-originalbuzz-info.jpg

Talos Argon
9 years ago

95% of patents are owned by men so men are key to future not women.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

@Falconer

This was me when I first saw it. Imagine a high pitch squeal as you look:

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/vhg.gif
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/vha.gif
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/lomg.gif
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/cfph.gif
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/bnc.gif
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/poppin1.gif

Of course, I’m still giddy as fuck. It’s been running for 24 hours and I just learned about it and I am excite.

I hope it’s game footage. X3

Also, you gotta admit, that is one class dong-shaped building.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

I know it’s probably going to be a 10 second teaser trailer but stiiiill.

katz
9 years ago

I refuse to be excited until I know what genre it is.

Falconer
Falconer
9 years ago

What are they doing to that big yellow earth mover?

And I’m sorry to say that it looks like that class dong-shaped building is striking a blow for intactivists everywhere.

@Talos Argon:

95% of patents are owned by men so men are key to future not women.

Oh you do not want to get into a statistics war with us, neighbor. We will deploy sarcasm, metaphor, parody, litotes and satire, and then we’ll beat you at your own game.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

@katz

Fallout 4 Dance Dance Revolution.

brooked
brooked
9 years ago

Harnessing men’s utility can be witnessed from the erection of Stonehenge to the Roman Empire to the moon landings. Cures for diseases and vaccines to prevent them happened from the intensely intelligent actions of the human male. Exploring new territories and engineering the transport to send people to new places has changed the world, almost all of it through risk and hardship borne by men. Men have driven civilization forward since we first walked away from the African savannah. Men’s blood, sweat, tears and sacrifices are the fuel rods that have always driven the big machine of our society.

This isn’t writing, it’s a grammatical torture chamber. The amount of nominalizations is staggering, the verb-to-noun ratio is 7 to 200.

This sentence reads like a parody of bad passive voice: “Cures for diseases and vaccines to prevent them happened from the intensely intelligent actions of the human male.” They’ve buried the subject in a prepositional phrase like it was a dead pet.

I can’t get over how badly written this article is, it’s terribleness stands out on a website that exclusively focuses on bad writing.

Aunt Edna
Aunt Edna
9 years ago

@brooked

They’ve buried the subject in a prepositional phrase like it was a dead pet.

That’s because that pet — or creature, rather — is very dead indeed. And somewhere in the deep recesses of what passes for Elam’s and Wright’s minds this was acknowledged, ever so reluctantly. Thus the unseemly burial.

Miss Andry
9 years ago

We erected Stonehenge to feed you! Or whatever.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

95% of patents are owned by men so men are key to future not women.

But, men are apparently not the key to proper pronunciation.

Also, I’m not sure which country you’re talking about, but in the US, the patent requirements aren’t all that stringent. It doesn’t have to be viable. It certainly doesn’t have to be the key to the future. It does have to be useful, but useful seems to be defined pretty broadly most of the time.

There’s also the absurdity of comparing male and female importance based solely on patent holding status. There are lots of ways to be important, useful, and productive without holding a patent. There’s also the matter of boys being encouraged more than girls to get into pursuits that might lead to patent holding in adulthood.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

The ultimate in phallic buildings and the perfect symbol for who holds the power and privilege in the United States.
http://www.sunipix.com/memorials/WashingtonMonument1.jpg

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

You know what one man patented?

Animal ear holders so their ears don’t get dirty.

It looks like the cardboard of toilet paper rolls stuck onto the side of the dog’s head.

That is an actual invention that has been patented.

Here it is:

http://www.google.com/patents/US4233942

Obviously, this shows male superiority.

misseb47
misseb47
9 years ago

This reminds of the pretty cringe worthy “we hunted the mammoth even though the mammoths weren’t even hunted” * comments on an article called Why the Men’s Rights Movement is Garbage:The Belle Jar

It is really worth reading. The comment section is riddled with MRA trolls, as usual. Here is a quote from a pleasant fellow called Robert :

Women participate in this world, but it is not by building the cities, the infrastructure, developing the energy supplies, discovering the science, or the technologies. They participate by pushing men to their limits to please them.
Women do not have a clearer picture of reality, of ethics, of themselves even; the women’s movement has the single desire to promote the unclear and often irrational needs and wants of women, and to vilify men for accomplishing what women seem unable to do for themselves.

Men grow tired of jumping through hoops and performing tricks to amuse the ungrateful.
The ubiquity of porn and drugs has now made pleasing a women irrelevant to men!
Women should go back in time and live in the trees once more cowering by themselves in the wilderness; just the way men originally found and took pity on them! Women do not deserve the best handed to them for nothing, they deserve the right however to go out into the world and try their best. And if they are inadequate they can take the same consequences as anyone else, even a lowly man!

And another by Michael:

Wow, here is a woman complaining about men who try to resolve their own issues in the way that men solve them. She is all up in arms and bitching because men are not doing things the way women would. What a joke. This country was just fine for 100 plus years, almost 200 years, lifting all boats before the progressives and feminists started destroying what has worked in societies before us. Just like Rome and Greece, it was the progressives and feminist in power that began the ending of societies and here we are at ours and the progressives and feminists are looking around and proud at what they have destroyed. You should be ashamed. Without strong, free, masculine men, you would still be living in the stone age but, you are too stupid with feminine pride to admit it. The genders do have a role – operating at their gender strength, naturally. It is people like you who keep disrupting the natural order, causing women to expect to have it all and sacrifice nothing. It does not work that way, it never has, it never will.

They are doozies aren’t they? To the MRA lurkers out there-you should really hit the history books a bit more before making such ridiculous comments. Also do some anthropology research as well before spouting evo-psych nonsense about ‘hunter gathers’ and ‘sexual dimorphism’ **. You will find two important things-everyone, male and female hunted AND gathered (including children), sexual dimorphism is actually ridiculously small in our species and has decreased by a huge amount during the course of human evolution.
Here are some great places to start:

Heather Pringle| (1998) ‘New Women of the Ice Age’ Discover Magazine

Erin Camp (2005) Sexual Dimorphism in Human Evolution

George Armelagos and Denis Van Gerven (1980) ‘Sexual Dimorphism and Human Evolution: An Overview’ Journal of Human Evolution 9(5) pages 437–446

Book- Linda Own (2005) ‘Distorting the Past. Gender and the Division of Labor in the European Upper Paleolithic’ published by Kerns Verlag: Tübingen

*Seriously, humanity did not hunt the mammoth to extinction, even if we hunted them at all. The whole ‘over kill hypothesis’ is complete garbage.

** I am RREEEEEAAAAALLLYYY sick of this crap. There is a lot of shit spouted regarding the differences between men and women, often in the form of broad sweeping statements from self proclaimed ‘experts’ who don’t even bother to reference ANYTHING!

Moocow
9 years ago

@WWTH

That and apparently 97 freaking percent of patents fail to make any money.

But MRAs and anti-feminists love to use statistics like a drunk person uses a lampost; for support rather than enlightenment.

(I cannot take credit for that analogy, but I love it too much not to share :D)

There’s also the matter of boys being encouraged more than girls to get into pursuits that might lead to patent holding in adulthood.

That reminds me of this ad

As a peeeeeeeeenis owner (who was very encouraged to do STEM stuff) I’m curious, how accurate is the video at portraying the pressures that girls face when showing interest in STEM?

Tessa
9 years ago

From one of misseb47’s quotes:

Women should go back in time and live in the trees once more cowering by themselves in the wilderness; just the way men originally found and took pity on them!

Well, this guy has a very unique view of human evolution. I really can’t fathom what he believes happened. Does he think men and women are different species of animals that met at some point? How did the men reproduce before they found women cowering in the wilderness?

berdache from a previous life

Always liked this New Yorker cartoon

[IMG]http://i60.tinypic.com/spw64m.jpg[/IMG]

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago
katz
9 years ago

I once worked for a company that developed patents into products and this one guy tried to sell them his patent for a bomb shelter made out of an RV.

See, he had this idea to bury an RV and use it as a bomb shelter. But it turned out that was already patented. So he tried to patent the same thing, but with the wheels taken off first. But that was already patented too. So he patented the same thing, but with the wheels taken off and put under the hood instead. And he successfully got a patent for that.

The company declined to buy rights to his patent and then go around digging up buried RVs to see where the wheels were.

misseb47
misseb47
9 years ago

Tessa-“Well, this guy has a very unique view of human evolution. I really can’t fathom what he believes happened. Does he think men and women are different species of animals that met at some point? How did the men reproduce before they found women cowering in the wilderness?”

Sounds like it, doesn’t? Maybe they cloned themselves with their cutting edge Stone Age technology!! 😀 They had the best cloning facilities then, really advanced. XD

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

@katz

SUCH GENIUS.

WE MUST HAIL HIS PEEN! HAIL THE PEEN! HAIL THE PEEN!

katz
9 years ago

So maybe the takeaway message is that men are more socialized to think their useless crap ideas have merit. Also, in 2012, 18% of patents were awarded to women.

I’d love to see a breakdown of the profitability of patents by gender of patent holder.

cupisnique
cupisnique
9 years ago

Even if men were the primary hunters, they’ve actually found that gathering accounted for substantially more of the caloric intake than hunting, so really without women they’d have had no energy to even carry an atlatl.

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