So I was reading through a rant on the Red Pill subreddit that’s so over-the-top ridiculous that it got downvoted to zero by the Red Pill masses. (Or maybe they voted it down because it wasn’t woman-hating enough? Hard to tell, where the Red Pill is concerned.)
Regardless, the rant inspired some, well, revealing commentary from other Red Pillers. Like this creepy and amazing mini-masterpiece of misogyny, from a comment by beerthroway that actually got some upvotes from the Red Pill masses. I’ve bolded some of the best –by which I mean the worst — bits.
[W]omen enjoy being forced to do things, just like children. …
Feminism has only concealed the nature of women. It is traditionalism that addresses the nature of women correctly, as deviant sexual beings that have an insatiable sex appetite and will manipulate everyone around them given the chance. Why do you think traditional values always restrict sex? Because it is a basic requirement of civilization and patriarchy. It allows for the advancement of civilization, so that everyone isn’t stuck in a hedonistic orgy (sexual or other pleasures).
You’re right that men don’t want a war. You’re wrong that we are not at war. Like the “men don’t hate women” post, we don’t try to oppress women. We understand that by maintaining power, women feel more secure. We should embrace hierarchy and accept that men are better and therefore, more rights = more responsibility. Sure give women the opportunity to have the same responsibility and earn the right. But don’t freely assume there is no war and give them the benefits, rights, and joy of being taken care of and made to smile if she won’t accept the responsibility of accepting her place underneath me as the women she is. Women want to be with a winner, not be the winner.
Well, that last bit is definitely wrong, if this scene from Stranger Than Paradise is any indication. (You really only need to watch the first 30 seconds to get the general gist of it.)
Actually, I’m pretty sure every word in that comment is wrong. Probably every letter.
The post that inspired beerthroway’s comment, a weird manifesto from some dude called Modern__Day__Pricus, is also sort of a masterpiece. Some highlights, with commentary:
We are not trying to “Put women back in the kitchen” or say they are only good for “Sucking dick and washing dishes”.
Unnecessary capitalization aside, so far so good.
Granted, it is fun to joke about these things and, even to an extent some would argue that is all they are good for …
And Modern__Day__Pricus has driven right into a ditch.
… but on a bigger picture level men after they have had their fill of pussy that are looking to achieve Mastery level in life will find these jokes and ways of expressing anger to be limited.
We are not against women. We, the people on this site and many other sites are not trying to go to war with women.
Wait, he seems to have gotten back on the road again.
It is much, much deeper than that. Woman’s ego’s from the outside perspective only view it as us hating on them and wanting to go back to caveman days, but that is only because women are more naturally solipsism than men. Its something they can’t help like pissing, shitting, eating, blinking, and watching bad movies due to being hyped by the movie trailers.
… and there he goes right back into the ditch.
Shocking as this may seem to ladies it is not all about them. Once a man gets through the clutter of pussy we look to seek something DEEPER than the Grand Canyon that has become their pussy pass the age of 23.
Er, I think you meant “past,” as in “something DEEPER than the Grand Canyon that has become their pussy PAST the age of 23.” You’re welcome!
This site and many others really have nothing to do with them as crazy as it may look. We on this site are seeking more from life than being trapped in the pink web of nonsense that women place us in.
I don’t think that’s a web. I think what you’re seeing is women’s vaginas literally sewing themselves shut at the thought of you.
We are not are war trying to force women to do what they don’t want to do (Expect when it comes to their rape fantasies in bed but, anyway)
Uh, this is kind of basic, but I think this dude needs a refresher on the basics: If it’s really her fantasy, and she tells you she wants you to act it out with her in the context of consensual sex, you’re not actually forcing her to do something that she doesn’t want to do.
If you are literally forcing her to do something she doesn’t want to do because you think all women have rape fantasies involving you, that’s not a rape fantasy, that’s rape.
Feminism may have ruined shit but it has helped men realize the truth and help us see that there is more out there than just pussy and having kids. … we only have one life to live. Make sure you don’t fall victim to a trap door that the “script” of the world gives and shoves down your throat porn style.
There’s a trap door in someone’s throat now?
We are men that have woken up and see that we only have one life to live, and its best to seek from it purpose, Mastery, and Greatness that can be looked back on 50 years from now and give men and even women inspiration to move onward towards their own greatness as well.
Who do you think the world will remember more? Michael Jordan shooting his last shot against The Utah Jazz in 1998, or the person he crossed over to shoot that shot over in 1998? Can you remember his name without using Google?
No, I can’t. I also can barely remember your Reddit handle even though I pasted it in twice earlier in this post. I hate to have to break this to you, Dude, but you’re no Michael Jordan, basketball-wise or even being-a-decent-person-wise.
Don’t fall into a trap door. ALWAYS seek more than what is given to you.
Actually, dude, I’m thinking that the trap door is the best option for you.
@wordsp1nner:
Explains why redpillians are deathly allergic to romance novels and see them as the embodiment of evil (right after feminists and women).
@CotB: Okay, thanks. I guess I’m not really surprised. I wonder how big sites handle this sort of crap.
@ Aunt Edna–Conservative Christians sometimes hate romance novels too, even the Christian ones. I think it is because they don’t want women to have expectations.
Aw, dude, they cancelled that show back in 2013. I guess maybe he’s upset that matriarchy took away his soaps?
(Woohoo, I figured out the blockquoting!)
@Fruitloopsie “No ableism here and yeah sure feminists want to kill 80-90 percent of men #TheyTotallyExist /s”
@davidknewton “WHERE”
Mary Daly for one:
“If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males” Bridle, Susan (Fall–Winter 1999). “No Man’s Land”. EnlightenNext Magazine
Another semi-prominent Second Waver, I forget who, expressed a similar opinion linking male population reduction with environmental sustainability.
JC is an idiot, but he’s correct in as far as every movement having it’s fringe elements.
Well, you’re right about fringes, but c’mon, “an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males”, as weird as the notion might be, is not “kill most men”. It’s describing a sort of outside force, rather than a course for action.
“evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males” does not equal “feminists want to kill 80-90 percent of men.” I am not a fan of Mary Daly, but she does specify that it would be an evolutionary process, not a murderous one, and she does NOT specify a percentage. I do think she’s extreme, but let’s not misrepresent what she said.
What is with this obsession of vaginas growing ever larger – so large in fact that they’re too loose for their ‘ultimate purpose’ of boner-pleasing by the magical prime-numbered age of 23?
I’m starting to get concerned that these guys all have penile sensitivity issues, and that after some years of tight-fisted wanking their penises get all used up. Perhaps this occurs by the age of 23??? Since I’m not interested in young, young men, I’m worried that all this will leave me with is used-up penii – and that would be no good for me. We must immediately start a movement to stop these men from using themselves up.
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Joking aside, this was a real problem for Mr Yogi. Unfortunately, he seemed to believe the Grand Canyon myth and blamed me and my ‘looseness’ on the lack of sensitivity. Wanting to be a considerate lover, I took this as ‘constructive criticism’ and kegeled obsessively. I was mad. It was all him. No complaints from not-Mr-Yogi who is substantially less well-endowed.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Mr Yogi has read extensively on the ever growing-vag issue to bolster his profound conviction that there’s “nothing wrong with him” and that his sexual dysfunction is all my fault. Red Pill swallowing doesn’t give one the ability to see the truth, but instead to engage in massive self-deception and blame projection. No wonder it’s so tempting.
The 80-90% reduction of men thang. . Apparently there was some woman who thought this might be a good idea. One of the MRA types linked to an interview with her and I read it. It does appear that there is ONE PERSON who thought this might be a good idea. She was very young (like 22).
Unfortunately ridiculous thought experiments now go online where they haunt forever. She even retracted her culling hypothesis and decided it could be a more gradual approach to winnowing out the men. Remaining men (all hot and fit, obvs) would be housed in special facilities where they would have cushy lives and be used just for breeding. Some kind of weird sexual fantasy with all the ‘good bits’ edited out.
Let it go on record, though it won’t matter much, that this feminist is 100% in opposition to the culling of men. I could make a joke about that meaning that sex would only be for procreation and I like men for recreational sex, too – but that would be crass. It’s easier to make a joke because accepting this juvenile scrawl as some kind of serious proposition is utterly abhorrent. Denying the humanity and autonomy of men is vile – as vile as doing the same to women.
Some of these MRA blokes have found the blog post and are using it as ‘proof’ that feminism wants to get rid of men – claiming that this person whose name I don’t even know , is a feminist leader.
I’m reminded of that article that stated that convicted rapists tend to think that all men are rapists and just think that other men hide it better and/or didn’t get caught. I’d say that it’s very convenient for male rapists who are attracted to women to believe that most/all women secretly have rape fantasies, for male abusers who are attracted to women to believe that most/all women secretly long for a man’s strict domination, for insecure men of any orientation who feel threatened by women (for whatever reason) to believe that deep down, women just can’t think as clearly as men or control themselves and thus have to be told what they really want and think and feel and should do, because they can’t figure it out on their own.
Bingo. Even a woman who might want to explore a rape fantasy with a partner she trusts isn’t likely to actually hope she gets raped. Even a woman who is interested in exploring the submissive side of dom-sub relationships with a dom partner she trusts likely isn’t interested in being abused and controlled outside of pre-set safe, sane and consensual boundaries. In those situations, she can use a safeword or something and end it the moment she chooses. It’s a controlled submission where she has power. Actual rape and abuse are not.
Bigboy, is that you? I mean, it’s the same argument and you DO have terrible grammar… Slightly more ellipses, but if that’s a cloaking measure, buddy, it’s not working.
And poor dear, knocking down your estimate of how much feminists totally want to kill most men still doesn’t make it any more believable. Or any more of a compelling argument. This isn’t even throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks, this is picking up the same turd again and again to throw at the wall. It ain’t working, sweetie. Put the turd down.
@rugbyyogi
You’re thinking of “Femitheist Divine” : http://www.femitheist.net/
*That’s* where they get the 90% figure (it was suggested goal in some treatise on the ideal matriarchal society, along with “Male Castration Day”, may have been removed). I didn’t mention her because it’s likely she’s a troll or in serious need of some mental health services.
Fair enough, Mary Daly didn’t call for violence.
@bryce – yeah, that’s the one. Possibly troll, or troll-ish but I think more likely just young and silly and prone to a kind of science fiction-y/ fantasy type projection onto public policy. I have a whole collection of crackpot public policy ideas that I don’t really share anywhere, but since I actually work with public policy mine are much more mundane (such as redefining the fiscal year for public works budgets to improve road maintenance and reduce congestion, it would work – I tell you!!!)
If it were written up as fiction (and I have read p0rn along this kind of theme), it would be barely entertaining. Giving it credit as some sort of feminist thought leadership is just ridonculous.
But MRA types don’t seem to exercise much discretion in what they read or bring much logic or general common sense in sorting wheat from chaff. Otherwise they wouldn’t be sucking up the MRA MANifesto tripe.
Plus in the 1970s, there was a genuine panic regarding overpopulation. It wasn’t just SF movies like Soylent Green and Logan’s Run, people actually discussed a looming Malthusian catastrophe in terms of public policy.
http://prospect.org/article/holdrens-controversial-population-control-past
Google “The Population Bomb” by Stanford University Professor Paul R. Ehrlich, the best selling book that set of the overpopulation apocalypse scare in 1968.
*that set off
And a key reason for that is that anyone who’s willing to tolerate what the MRM stands for enough to self identify as an MRA is already too morally bankrupt to be a decent person.
Similar issues with finding a decent person among gamergaters, cause they see what their “movement” does and yet still choose to identify with it.
The closest you’d get to a decent MRA is someone who is entirely unaware of what the MRM is about and assumes they must be about helping men. But if he’s actually a decent person he’ll quickly retract any claims of being an MRA shortly after doing a bit of research on them.
Feels like half the time they’re saying women haven’t anywhere near the sexual desire that men have (and that women’s satisfaction is therefore somehow irrelevant and it’s all about the man’s boner) and what women really care about is just money, and the other half of the time they’re calling women insatiable, semen-guzzling penis-addicts. Some consistency would be nice.
@Bryce
“If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males” Bridle, Susan (Fall–Winter 1999). “No Man’s Land”. EnlightenNext Magazine
Have you read this interview? I’m guessing no.
Bryon Russell was the guy MJ crossed over against to sink the shot in 1998. Any basketball fan knows that automatically. Just like any sane man knows that the best way to treat women is with love and respect.
So… are women insatiable sex beasts who therefor have to be kept under the strict control of the rational menz at all times OR are men insatiable sex beasts who therefor can never be held responsible for their sexual behaviour and must be catered to 24/7 by every woman they so much as look at?
assholes, at least keep your story straight.
“Deviant” and “insatiable” mean “won’t stop sleeping with other men”.
Also, in MRA Opposite Land, women are children who have to be controlled and corrected and coddled and told what to do at all times, but 13 year olds are fully adult beings vapable of making informed decisions about sex with
Ugh, i was just going to correct the “vapable” typo and hit “Post” by mistake. That’s it. I give up trying to post comments from this ipad.
Buttercup, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen some creepy MRA type try to justify peophilia sorry ephebophilia by saying that women don’t mature past the age of 13 or whatever so men should be allowed to have sex with them at 13.
On the femitheist, I’ve never been able to figure her out. I think she’s sincere. But despite her extreme beliefs she seems to be very polite to everyone she deals with online. I’ve even seen her having polite twitter conversations with Dean Esmay. (Even though AVFM doxxed her and apparently made her so afraid for her own safety she faked her own suicide at one point.)