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“Women enjoy being forced to do things, just like children,” creepy-as-hell Red Pill Redditor observes

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Every Red Piller’s fantasy

So I was reading through a rant on the Red Pill subreddit that’s so over-the-top ridiculous that it got downvoted to zero by the Red Pill masses. (Or maybe they voted it down because it wasn’t woman-hating enough? Hard to tell, where the Red Pill is concerned.)

Regardless, the rant inspired some, well, revealing commentary from other Red Pillers. Like this creepy and amazing mini-masterpiece of misogyny, from a comment by beerthroway that actually got some upvotes from the Red Pill masses. I’ve bolded some of the best –by which I mean the worst — bits.

[W]omen enjoy being forced to do things, just like children. …

Feminism has only concealed the nature of women. It is traditionalism that addresses the nature of women correctly, as deviant sexual beings that have an insatiable sex appetite and will manipulate everyone around them given the chance. Why do you think traditional values always restrict sex? Because it is a basic requirement of civilization and patriarchy. It allows for the advancement of civilization, so that everyone isn’t stuck in a hedonistic orgy (sexual or other pleasures).

You’re right that men don’t want a war. You’re wrong that we are not at war. Like the “men don’t hate women” post, we don’t try to oppress women. We understand that by maintaining power, women feel more secure. We should embrace hierarchy and accept that men are better and therefore, more rights = more responsibility. Sure give women the opportunity to have the same responsibility and earn the right. But don’t freely assume there is no war and give them the benefits, rights, and joy of being taken care of and made to smile if she won’t accept the responsibility of accepting her place underneath me as the women she is. Women want to be with a winner, not be the winner.

Well, that last bit is definitely wrong, if this scene from Stranger Than Paradise is any indication. (You really only need to watch the first 30 seconds to get the general gist of it.)

Actually, I’m pretty sure every word in that comment is wrong. Probably every letter.

The post that inspired beerthroway’s comment, a weird manifesto from some dude called Modern__Day__Pricus, is also sort of a masterpiece. Some highlights, with commentary:

We are not trying to “Put women back in the kitchen” or say they are only good for “Sucking dick and washing dishes”.

Unnecessary capitalization aside, so far so good.

Granted, it is fun to joke about these things and, even to an extent some would argue that is all they are good for …

And Modern__Day__Pricus has driven right into a ditch.

… but on a bigger picture level men after they have had their fill of pussy that are looking to achieve Mastery level in life will find these jokes and ways of expressing anger to be limited.

We are not against women. We, the people on this site and many other sites are not trying to go to war with women.

Wait, he seems to have gotten back on the road again.

It is much, much deeper than that. Woman’s ego’s from the outside perspective only view it as us hating on them and wanting to go back to caveman days, but that is only because women are more naturally solipsism than men. Its something they can’t help like pissing, shitting, eating, blinking, and watching bad movies due to being hyped by the movie trailers.

… and there he goes right back into the ditch.

Shocking as this may seem to ladies it is not all about them. Once a man gets through the clutter of pussy we look to seek something DEEPER than the Grand Canyon that has become their pussy pass the age of 23.

Er, I think you meant “past,” as in “something DEEPER than the Grand Canyon that has become their pussy PAST the age of 23.” You’re welcome!

This site and many others really have nothing to do with them as crazy as it may look. We on this site are seeking more from life than being trapped in the pink web of nonsense that women place us in. 

I don’t think that’s a web. I think what you’re seeing is women’s vaginas literally sewing themselves shut at the thought of you.

We are not are war trying to force women to do what they don’t want to do (Expect when it comes to their rape fantasies in bed but, anyway)

Uh, this is kind of basic, but I think this dude needs a refresher on the basics: If it’s really her fantasy, and she tells you she wants you to act it out with her in the context of consensual sex, you’re not actually forcing her to do something that she doesn’t want to do. 

If you are literally forcing her to do something she doesn’t want to do because you think all women have rape fantasies involving you, that’s not a rape fantasy, that’s rape.

Feminism may have ruined shit but it has helped men realize the truth and help us see that there is more out there than just pussy and having kids. … we only have one life to live. Make sure you don’t fall victim to a trap door that the “script” of the world gives and shoves down your throat porn style.

There’s a trap door in someone’s throat now?

We are men that have woken up and see that we only have one life to live, and its best to seek from it purpose, Mastery, and Greatness that can be looked back on 50 years from now and give men and even women inspiration to move onward towards their own greatness as well.

Who do you think the world will remember more? Michael Jordan shooting his last shot against The Utah Jazz in 1998, or the person he crossed over to shoot that shot over in 1998? Can you remember his name without using Google?

No, I can’t. I also can barely remember your Reddit handle even though I pasted it in twice earlier in this post. I hate to have to break this to you, Dude, but you’re no Michael Jordan, basketball-wise or even being-a-decent-person-wise.

Don’t fall into a trap door. ALWAYS seek more than what is given to you.

Actually, dude, I’m thinking that the trap door is the best option for you.

 

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NothingClever
NothingClever
9 years ago

JC, replace “mangina” with “race traitor” and then see why nobody who uses that term is ever taken seriously.

alaisvex
alaisvex
9 years ago

@JC,

Who commented here and said that she wanted to kill 80-90% of men? I’m guessing that that’s what you mean by us being as extreme as they are, even though none of us expressed a wish to kill men.

misseb47
misseb47
9 years ago

“[W]omen enjoy being forced to do things, just like children. …”

Um…No. Children do NOT like being forced to do things. Grown women hate it even more, for good reason. I for one just HHAAAATTTEEE being treated like an infant. I find it patronizing, condescending and rage inducing. This whole ‘women are children’ thing really got to stop. As for everything else. Eww just eww.

“I don’t think that’s a web. I think what you’re seeing is women’s vaginas literally sewing themselves shut at the thought of you.”

Yeah, what he said.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
9 years ago

@Fruitloopsie – oh, you are awesome! Thanks for the laugh. Ah, Valerie…feminism’s popular older sister who always gets all the attention.

Maybe if we were a little nicer, Davy Jones would have asked us to the prom.

misseb47
misseb47
9 years ago

JC/bigboy-Back so soon? What did I say about not digging yourself into an even bigger hole?

PS

Still waiting on those links and citations. You made the ridiculous assertion that feminists want to kill 90% of men-IT IS UP TO YOU TO PROVE IT!

Anarchonist
Anarchonist
9 years ago

Every time I hear or read somoeone going “I’m not a controlling asshole, I just want to protect you from yourself!” I feel like vomiting.

Lea
Lea
9 years ago

Ikeke35,
Isn’t it though? I got so hooked on Peeky Blinders.

I love it when the trolls say things like, “Good luck with the people who love and respect you” or “Have fun with your cuddly cats” as it were an insult. It just shows how little they know and how mystified they are by people not consumed by hate and denial. I am having the best of luck in my relationships and I do enjoy my critters. They’re adorable.

We’re a couple of decades into marriage and I still get the warm fuzzies just looking at Hubby. He has no interest in trying to control me or tear me down. Only insecure shitheads feel the need to behave that way. For anyone else that sort of behavior is tedious, pointless and embarrassing. If a man has to intimidate a woman into staying with him, he knows no one would willingly be with him and he can’t face his own flaws in order to sort himself out.

I don’t need to pretend to myself that I am superior because I’m not afraid of being an ordinary, everyday human. I don’t need to pretend I am conquering the world in order to feel good about being a part of it. That sort of false ambition is for people easily undone by fear.

People like racists and misogynists are quaking in their boots and it shows. Every time you hear some Faux News bobble head rant about the horrible black folks you can translate that to, “I’m so scared of the resilience and genius of black people that I have soiled my ugly suit once again”. The same is true of manureosphereans. People like that pretend societal biases don’t exist because it makes the individuals who manage to overcome it stronger and smarter than they could ever dream of being.

Lea
Lea
9 years ago

“insatiable sexual appetite”

Translation: “I can’t satisfy a woman”

Bina
9 years ago

[W]omen enjoy being forced to do things, just like children. …

Oh dear. You’ve got absolutely NO experience with real children, have you? Because the words “NO!” and “I don’t want to!” come up quite a lot with them…

Feminism has only concealed the nature of women.

HahahahahaNOPE.

It is traditionalism that addresses the nature of women correctly

HahahahahahahahahaNOPENOPENOPE.

deviant sexual beings that have an insatiable sex appetite and will manipulate everyone around them given the chance.

That’s not us, dear, that’s YOU. And the reason you’re insatiable is because no one in her right mind would sleep with you.

Like the “men don’t hate women” post, we don’t try to oppress women. We understand that by maintaining power, women feel more secure. We should embrace hierarchy and accept that men are better and therefore, more rights = more responsibility.

Translation: “We ARE trying to oppress you, we just pray you won’t notice. Are we fooling you yet?”

Women want to be with a winner, not be the winner.

It’s always a zero-sum game with these guys. No wonder they’re zeroes.

We are not trying to “Put women back in the kitchen” or say they are only good for “Sucking dick and washing dishes”.

Could have fooled me. It always seems to come back to those things, somehow.

We are not against women. We, the people on this site and many other sites are not trying to go to war with women.

And yet, you keep using that word. WAR. Why?

women are more naturally solipsism than men

Junior, don’t try to use fancy words until you know what the hell they mean…

we look to seek something DEEPER than the Grand Canyon that has become their pussy pass the age of 23

…especially since you can’t even handle a simple, one-syllable, four-letter one correctly.

This site and many others really have nothing to do with them as crazy as it may look. We on this site are seeking more from life than being trapped in the pink web of nonsense that women place us in.

And yet you ramble on about us, spinning a veritable pink web of nonsense based on what you think we are. Why is that, I wonder?

We are not are war trying to force women to do what they don’t want to do (Expect when it comes to their rape fantasies in bed but, anyway)

There’s that word again. WAR.

And how nice of you to think we want to be forced into sex. HahahahahahaNOPENOPENOPITYNOPENOPE.

Feminism may have ruined shit but it has helped men realize the truth and help us see that there is more out there than just pussy and having kids. … we only have one life to live. Make sure you don’t fall victim to a trap door that the “script” of the world gives and shoves down your throat porn style.

Given that it’s usually women having shit shoved down their throats in the pornos, and those things are scripted as hell (booooooring), I’d say we could do with a bit more feminist “ruination”.

I think I’mma take this guy’s advice and not marry one of these guys OR have kids with him! Thanks, Idiot Male of the Internets!

Nequam
Nequam
9 years ago

Are bans here are not based on IP addresses?

Lea
Lea
9 years ago

(Expect when it comes to their rape fantasies in bed but, anyway)

As if men don’t have rape fantasies or all women do. There is an awful lot or porn dedicated to dudes who like to fantasize about just that. Dommes are not wanting for male subs. Meanwhile, one person’s treasure is another’s trash. There is no universal turn on. Some men or women liking something =/= all of them liking something and a fantasy is by definition not what people want in reality. How deeply in denial do you have to be to pretend such things?

These very silly men want to believe that everyone other than misogynist men want to be controlled. How convenient. The funny thing is, I don’t even think they’re convincing themselves.

Lea
Lea
9 years ago

Making a child do something they don’t want to do is like pushing a pudding up a hill. I hope these men never have kids.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

Just to let everyone here know, the woman who wanted to kill of 90% of men was someone going by the online handle femitheist. Depending on who you ask, she is either an embarassed extremist or a satirical character.

One thing she adamantly is not, though, by self-identification, is a feminist.

Any time you hear an MRA complaining about feminists wanting to kill off 90% of men, this is who they’re referring to, because it’s pretty much the only popularly-known example of any human being saying it.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
9 years ago

So. Question for Bigboy or any other lurking MRAs.

If all women naturally want to be forced and ordered around, want to give complete control of their lives to a man, want to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, want to be beaten and raped, but they’ve been “Led astray” by feminism…

… If all women naturally want all that, then why does feminism exist?

childrenofthebroccoli
childrenofthebroccoli
9 years ago

@ Nequam: They are IP-based, but IPs are easy to change.

@JC: If you’re going to pull the “Not all MRAs are that extreme!” card, you’ll need to pass the standard challenge of showing us one prominent MRA who isn’t a morally bankrupt asshole. We won’t be holding our breath.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Nobody has ever met the find an MRA who’s a decent person challenge. Not once in the year and a half since I’ve been here.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
9 years ago

“insatiable sexual appetite”

Translation: “I can’t satisfy a woman”

I always loved the backhanded insult in that Captain & Tennille song:

Do that to me one more time
Once is never enough
With a man like you

It could be interpreted two different ways, but I like to think they were talking to a redpiller.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
9 years ago

Apparently, the italics mammoth finds me especially tasty.

Rabukurafuto
Rabukurafuto
9 years ago

If all women naturally want to be forced and ordered around, want to give complete control of their lives to a man, want to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, want to be beaten and raped, but they’ve been “Led astray” by feminism…

… If all women naturally want all that, then why does feminism exist?

Because Marxism. And Jews apparently.

As if men don’t have rape fantasies or all women do. There is an awful lot or porn dedicated to dudes who like to fantasize about just that. Dommes are not wanting for male subs. Meanwhile, one person’s treasure is another’s trash. There is no universal turn on. Some men or women liking something =/= all of them liking something and a fantasy is by definition not what people want in reality. How deeply in denial do you have to be to pretend such things?

I’m reminded of some man who would rant at length about how media glorifies abuse and how this contributes to real life violence. What he would rant the most about? Sexual images of strong women dominating weaker men, which he thought needed to be banned from the Internet at all costs, because…there are rampaging strong women beating up weaker men? Yeah, I see that on the news all the time. The last I checked, he’s now dabbling in men’s rights activism. As you do…

friday jones
friday jones
9 years ago

Deviant sexual beings who refuse to put out, he meant to say!

Robert
Robert
9 years ago

The absolute bone-deep anus-clenching terror these bozos feel at the prospect of unfettered female sexuality would make me laugh until I puked – except for the real world consequences. That just sucks all the funny right out of it.

How do they get like that? It makes me feel so grateful to be gay that words cannot express it. Maybe I should be glad that I DON’T understand it – it seems like that moment of revelation in Lovecraftian stories when the narrator has his mind blasted by eldritch gnosis what humans are not equipped to withstand.

Lady Mondegreen
Lady Mondegreen
9 years ago

Feminism may have ruined shit but it has helped men realize the truth and help us see that there is more out there than just pussy and having kids

Wait. These dudes needed feminism to tell them that!?

Women needed feminism to overcome barriers placed in the way of our being more than vagina-havers and mothers.

What kind of unimaginative dudebro doesn’t even realize there’s more to life ’til he sees women succeeding and feels envi–

Oh.

we only have one life to live.

Yup. And you’re failing, pal. Your values suck.

Make sure you don’t fall victim to a trap door that the “script” of the world gives and shoves down your throat porn style

I’ll take Mixed Metaphors for $2,000, Alex.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
9 years ago

Okay, so I read a lot of romance novels, and I’ll admit, there are a lot of romance heroes are on the dominating side. The romance fandom even calls them alphas (as a character type, not a description of real-world men). A lot of MRAs/Terpers/”complementarian” conservative Christians like to use this as evidence that all women want a domineering asshole, despite all claims to the contrary.

Ignoring all the well-trod issues of (a) not all women like those romance novel heroes, because not all women are identical (b) what people fantasize about (much less what they enjoy reading about) is not identicle to what they actually want…

The terper/conservative Christian depiction of alphaness is actually not that close to what you see in romance novels. Sure, he tends to be rich and powerful and bossy (which she puts up with to various degrees), but he actually cares about her welfare (so not a terper) and supports her goals, even if they are not being a home-schooling housewife (so not a conservative Christian patriarch).

Honestly, if straight men are going to take any lessons from romance novels, I’d start with “women generally want to be loved and supported”. And also “be good at oral sex”*.

*It is pretty much required in modern romance novels that the hero goes down on the heroine before PIV sex. Yes, her hymen may be halfway up her vagina**, but he doesn’t skip foreplay.

**This is a thing. No, don’t ask me why.

Bina
9 years ago

Deviant sexual beings who refuse to put out, he meant to say!

“Those nasty sluts never do it with me, me, ME!”

Aunt Edna
Aunt Edna
9 years ago

Oof, these fellas’ blatherings about purpose, Mastery, and Greatness (lol) are almost too sad to ridicule. But ridicule one must. 🙂

This, like so much of the manuresphere’s manure, sounds like the first (and usually last) glimmers of what passes for thought in self-aware human beings. Just barely glimmers, however, because still so dim, primitively narcissistic, and projection-based.

Dude realizes, for a brief moment, that life is not about his boner. Hallelujah! He’s probably past the first stage of puberty!

Unfortunately, he cannot help but combine this momentous discovery with denigration of women (albeit shot with a pretense of benevolence) in order to make it sound all the more important and unique. He’s probably past the first stage of puberty.

But of course it does not last. It cannot, since there is no depth or broader cognitive support (intelligence) for that innocent inkling of independent, relatively boner-free thought; it is quickly suffocated by the fumes of narcissistic pomposity that always accompanies it. He will probably not progress much beyond that stage of puberty. Which means that the manuresphere will remain his permanent home.

what you’re seeing is women’s vaginas literally sewing themselves shut at the thought of you

True dat. And what an image that is.