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Reactionary “game” guru Roosh V divorces The Red Pill, demands full custody of all the pageviews

Roosh V, living the dream
Roosh V, living the dream

Oh dear. Roosh V’s rebranding campaign isn’t going well at all.

The increasingly reactionary pickup guru, who seems deathly afraid of being universally recognized as the creepy old guy at the club that he so obviously has become, is earnestly trying to transform himself into a philosopher of sorts, and a sort of manosphere elder. He recently gave his highly unoriginal philosophy a name — “Neomasculinity” — and proclaimed himself the headmaster of this “new” school of thought.

I put “new” in scare quotes because there is nothing whatsoever new about his “ideas,” such as they are; his philosophy is little more than a warmed-over version of Red Pill dogma, with some extra helpings of racism, homophobia, and good-old-fashioned patriarchy.

In an attempt to convince the world that he is indeed selling something new and improved, Roosh has launched an attack on his former Red Pill allies. In a post on Friday, he declared that the Red Pill was over:

The red pill term has served its use in the past five years, but a quick perusal of the red pill subreddit or related blogs show that it’s too focused on sex at sacrifice of greater political and cultural issues. It has become an entry-level group for men in their 20’s who just started getting laid, but this can only serve as a transitory stage.

Once a man has gotten his fill of casual sex, and is looking for deeper meaning in his relationships or satisfaction with life, the red pill has few answers besides running “dread game” on your wife, maintaining “good style” to attract young females when older, or the ever vague “work on yourself.” Neomasculinity will aim to fill in these gaps by serving men regardless of their age or involvement in the game.

He went on to complain that the Red Pill “has no council of elders to guide the ideology” and that it has failed to stop women from “declin[ing] in their virtue” and getting fat. (Yeah, he’s a bit obsessed with that.)

In a followup video yesterday, Roosh made very clear just who he thinks should be the chairman of the manosphere’s council of elders. SPOILER ALERT: It’s him. Indeed, in the video, Roosh claims that he invented the Red Pill philosophy, with some help from other reactionary “game” bloggers like Roissy/Heartiste and Rollo Tomassi.

He also declared that there would be no “homosexuals” allowed into his Neomasculinity club, because the idea of men using Red Pill techniques to get “buttsex” strikes him as inherently ridiculous.

It’s not hard to guess at what Roosh’s real motivations here are. He seems to have burned himself out as a pickup artist; apparently the years he’s spent trying to cajole or coerce drunken Eastern European women he hates into sex haven’t provided him with much lasting satisfaction.

He ran out of things to say on the subject a long time ago, and traffic at his personal blog has stagnated, at least according to Alexa’s far-from-foolproof estimates. His more broadly reactionary group blog Return of Kings is far more popular, but Alexa reports that its traffic has been down much of the year.

Not surprisingly, Roosh’s attempt to declare himself king of the manosphere did not go over terribly well on the Red Pill subreddit. Most saw it as a moneygrab, and a rather desperate attempt to hang on to relevance in a scene that’s moving on from him.

As BurgundyCarpet wrote,

The problem with Neomasculinity is that its synonymous with “Roosh V.” He’s trying to create an alternative to the Red Pill. Yet the only significant practical differences between TRP and Neomasculinity are:

Roosh has complete control
Roosh stands to profit

I respected Roosh until he pulled this lame bullshit move. He’s trying to monetize TRP by changing the name of TRP. I like the guy and I like his work but this entire “Neomasculinity” thing is the most transparently self-serving bullshit ive ever seen.

Others were even less kind. Elatusa dug the knife in deep, and twisted it:

He was always a beta PUA who, once he got some pussy, decided to try monetize every tip anyone in the community ever shared. …

I have 0 respect for him as a man, especially now that he’s trying to sell TRP theories under his own brand.

“Fuck him, I never liked him anyway,” DOCTORxTEETH added. “His eyes stick out too fucking far.”

Red Pill clowner GayLubeOil, meanwhile, dropped the ultimate Red Pill dis, declaring that “Roosh doesn’t even lift.”

Roosh’s response to all this was to indignantly deny that he was trying to cash in on his lingering celebrity. And to attack thee Red Pillers for posting on Reddit, which Roosh has somehow convinced himself is a “virulent matriarchy” run by radical feminists. No, really.

Here’s the rant he posted on his own forums, which is so jaw-droppingly divorced from reality that it’s worth quoting in full. I’ve bolded a few highlights.

Speaking of profit, The Red Pill members make a big show about information being free, but they seem to forget that they regularly post on a for-profit platform owned by the most die hard feminists in Silicon Valley, perhaps the world, and led by a litigious feminist itself (Ellen Pao) that is on the verge of passing more oppressive rules. TRP subreddit exists because the feminists who own the site have allowed them to post. For men who are obsessed with being “alpha” and maintaining “frame,” they have volunteered to position themselves on a lower hierarchy compared to these elite feminists.

Every single page view they give reddit, they aid feminists. Every single comment they post, they increase the profit of this anti-man corporation, and even if ads are not always directly on TRP, the huge amount of page views that the subreddit gives reddit overall is definitely used to sell ads sitewide through their advertising spec sheets.

So either indirect or directly, everyone who regularly posts on that site is increasing the money that feminists make, improving the popularity of their platform to better bring SJW and far left thought to the masses, and improving the financial support that Silicon Valley feminists receive. How they can reconcile that fact by critiquing me for selling books shows how confused these men are, and how they are merely parroting red pill ideas and not living in the spirit of them.

I wish no ill will on these men, but I told them from day one to go forth and build their own platform. They did not listen to my advice, and are now being overseen by the enemy—a virulent matriarchy—whom they so despise, and who can shutdown their so-called “frame” with only a few clicks. When that happens, they are welcome here in this community where they can finally learn from men who live more truly to masculine ideals.

Amazing.

So far the biggest winners in this little manosphere war are those watching on the sidelines, and laughing. It’s reminiscent of the embarrassing spectacle that ensued when Paul Elam tried to declare himself King of the MGTOWs. Expect much more hilarity ahead.

 

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Faint Praise
Faint Praise
9 years ago

Every single page view they give reddit, they aid feminists.

Will a kind feminazi please write a script to refresh reddit faster for me? Perhaps all night while I sleep.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
9 years ago

Is that a recent pic? Bloody hell, he even looks like he’s hit rock bottom…

Faint Praise
Faint Praise
9 years ago

Chill a bit, what he looks like is always irrelevant and the best thing he’ll ever have going for him. Nothing is more of a train wreck than that guy’s soul.

redneckcryonicist
redneckcryonicist
9 years ago

>getting fat. (Yeah, he’s a bit obsessed with that.)

The current First Lady doesn’t want girls to get fat, either. But for some reason no one criticizes her for that.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
9 years ago

@Faint Praise

Oh, no, I mean in a “Worried for his health” kind of way, not an appearance-shaming kind of way. ^^;

Fabe
Fabe
9 years ago

The current First Lady doesn’t want girls to get fat, either. But for some reason no one criticizes her for that.

Because The First Lady is talking about a heath issue while Roosh is talking about his boner getting sad.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
9 years ago

@racist troll

There’s a difference between working to minimise childhood obesity and working to maximise whatever pleases Roosh’s boner.

magnesium
magnesium
9 years ago

@redneckcryonicist

You’re bad at this. Lots of people and groups have criticized Michelle Obama’s weight loss initiative http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/02/conservatives_heap_criticism_o.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/26/michelle-obamas-low-calorie-school-lunch-video_n_1914394.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Health/michelle-obama-obesity-comments-bringing-malia-sasha-wrong/story?id=9751138

There’s this thing they have now. It’s called Google. You should go there and double check if you’re talking out of your butt before you come here and post off-topic nonsense.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
9 years ago

NINJA’D!

Jenny (@dontgiveah00t)

@Scented Fucking Hard Chairs – my first thought was that at least he’d had a haircut, his beard looked trimmed and he looks like he’s washed his hair recently. He’s greyer to be sure, but at least now he looks like he’s making an effort to be clean, which is a step up from before.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Is this what rnc is going to in every thread? Attempt to derail the topic by getting us to hate some woman? Okay. Even Woody’s Paul Elam worship was more interesting.

redneckcryonicist
redneckcryonicist
9 years ago

Notice that Roosh and similar PUA’s show the capacity for – what could you call it? – personal growth? spiritual development? psychological maturation? even “enlightenment”?

Roosh has gotten so successful at picking up emotionally immature young women, or so he claims, that he doesn’t find it fulfilling any more. Hence he seems at a loss about what to do with the rest of his life. The experience has shown him the validity of our ancestors’ patriarchal wisdom tradition, and he apparently wants to reboot this tradition in a way that would work in the modern world.

By contrast, I don’t know of any openly gay male public figure who has come to a similar sort of self-awareness. The ones in middle age who have stayed reasonably healthy still engage in alienating, haphazard sex with strangers, even traveling around the world as sex tourists to do so. Emotionally they still act like gay teenagers, in other words, and they never seem to mature beyond that state.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
9 years ago

Neomasculinity: exactly like the old masculinity. You don’t even get a new coat of paint.

TRP subreddit exists because the feminists who own the site have allowed them to post.

Let’s not forget that Reddit also allowed, supported and defended Creepshots and Jailbait, which were well-known feminist operations.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
9 years ago

By contrast, I don’t know of any openly gay male public figure who has come to a similar sort of self-awareness.

Why is this troll still allowed to post? It would be different if the trolling was amusing, but this is sad. This is, like, 5th-grade level trolling here.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Is Ellen Pao even a feminist? Or is Roosh just calling her one because she’s a successful woman?

Leisha Young
Leisha Young
9 years ago

A classic example of how groups motivated by hatred eventually turn on each other. If your only motivation in life is to ‘win’ eventually you have to alienate everyone around you.

A group motivated by hatred and the desire for power and control is unsustainable…is history not littered with examples of this very premise?

Bina
Bina
9 years ago

Roosh has hit the wall in a major way. Shit, I’m older than him, but that grey beard makes him look older than me! Guess being a douchebag is prematurely aging. -2/10, would never bang, would shove off on an ice floe if one were available…

http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/llama-cant-deal-with-it.gif

Ahem. What was I going to say, again? Oh yeah:

REDDIT FEMINIST??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

(wheeeeeeze)

…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

I have one word for Roosh: VIOLENTACREZ.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

Aw, man, you banned him? Damn. I was gonna try out this thing to see if it would have spooked him.

You know, let me try it anyway.

Bina
Bina
9 years ago

Redneckracist, fuck the hell off. Your idea of “enlightenment” is profoundly disgustipating.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

Nope, didn’t work. Damn. I was trying out one to see if that Danasoft thing people put in signatures that shows your IP address would work. I thought it would be funny if he’d freak out and think I was doxxing him or something. He’s just that smart.

Bina
Bina
9 years ago

…aaand again, late to the banhammer party. Dang.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
9 years ago

I feel sorry for Valizadeh. He seems to be realising that he’s trapped in an unsustainable, psychologically unhealthy life; and he has no way of getting out because the only marketable skill he has is exploiting misogynists. I’m guessing this is his way of trying to reinvent himself as something better (albeit still pretty despicable), and that’s a project I have a certain amount of sympathy with.

Hopefully now he’ll stop raping people.

ktrantingredhead
9 years ago

Every time Roosh writes a blog, God kills a kitten.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

I even customized it with Hillary Clinton, for the lulz.

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