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What?! Philadelphia Train Crash “Exposes The Problems With Homosexuals In America,” Return of Kings Writer Claims

The last episode of Mad Men aired last night, but if ever something needed a Don Draper “what?” — or even an entire video full of them — the latest garbage post from garbage human being Matt Forney at garbage site Return of Kings is it.

In a post titled “Brandon Bostian’s Amtrak Crash Exposes The Problems With Homosexuals In America,” Forney — Internet-infamous for his posts making “The Case Against Female Self-Esteem” and claiming that “Fat Girls Don’t Deserve to Be Loved” — suggests that the real cause of the Amtrak train crash in Philadelphia could be engineer Brandon Bostian’s “unchecked homosexuality.”  

What a shock that a woman-hating, fat-shaming shithead who recently attended a white nationalist conference would also turn out to be a raging homophobe as well. Bigotries of a feather flock together.

Linking to posts on far-right muckrakerwallower  journalist Chuck Johnson’s GotNews site that seem to indicate that Bostian is gay, and that he might possibly have posted dick pics to sites devoted to posting dick pics, Forney cranks up his logic engine and writes that

It’s not a stretch to argue that a man obsessed with showing off his private parts to strangers might also be inclined to show off how fast he can drive a runaway train.

So wouldn’t that make Elliot Spitzer a prime suspect in the crash?

Well, no, because Spitzer isn’t gay, and in Forney’s mind the real villain here is unchecked gayness. Indeed, Forney claims,

because the left has so effectively hidden the dark side of gay culture from view, homosexuals are becoming a major threat to public health and safety.

In addition to being buttsex-having “disease vectors,” Forney charges, gay men “[l]ack … propriety and proper boundaries.” His proof? A story in the right-wing Washington Times titled “Gay couples’ children oppose same-sex marriage, tell of unpleasant upbringings.” In the story, one woman claimed that

her gay father was so preoccupied with sex that when she was in high school and brought home a male classmate, both her father and his lover propositioned him for sex. 

Forney writes:

Imagine a straight man hitting on his son’s girlfriend. You can’t, because even a single father wouldn’t think about violating his son’s boundaries in that fashion. This is how many homosexuals act: they’re narcissists who can’t be bothered to integrate into society yet constantly demand that straight people approve of their life choices.

Uh, dude, it’s not hard to imagine, because it happens all the fucking time — and these men often have no issue with violating the boundaries of the girlfriends either. Also, you’re writing on a site catering to men obsessed with dating young women (and teenage girls) many years their junior, where the big debate is whether women “hit the wall” and become too terminally old to “bang” at 30, or 25, or even 17. (Seriously, see the comments here.)

Forney continues:

Gay marriage, typically framed as a matter of “love,” can easily be used to enable homosexual child molesters.

Uh, dude, I hate to break it to you, but non-gay marriage can easily be used to enable non-homosexual child molesters, too.

Oh, but Forney wants us to know that he’s no homophobe. Nope, he explains, he’s not afraid of those filthy “homos.”

The leftist tactic of smearing critics of homosexual degeneracy as “homophobic” is completely off-base. We aren’t “afraid” of homo misbehavior, we’re disgusted by it, same as if we’d stepped in a dog turd on the sidewalk. There is nothing wrong with being revolted by people who spread disease through reckless sex, who adopt children so they can abuse them sexually, and who think shoving a taser up a mummy’s ass makes for a fun Friday night.

Uh, what? Is there some secret brigade of gay archeologists going around tasering mummies?

Getting back to that “w” word: What does any of this nonsense have to do with the train crash in Philadelphia? Your guess is as good as mine, particularly since we don’t even know what caused the crash at this point. Aside from his ridiculous “argument” about the inherent recklessness of dudes who post dick pics, Forney doesn’t even bother to try to make any sort of logical argument tying Bostian’s apparent sexual preferences to the crash.

Oh, and before I forget, I should point out that Forney also seems to think that Bostian was “likely an affirmative action hire” (!?) because, before becoming a train conductor 8 years ago and then an engineer 4 years ago, he worked at Target.

Naturally, this being Return of Kings, the comments are mostly pretty horrifying. Amazingly, there are a few commenters who actually challenge Forney’s homophobia. But there are also guys like advancedatheist, who writes

I would like to see the return of social norms where gays feel shame and humility again because they face sanctions against “expressing themselves,” and where they especially have a lot of trouble finding each other to engage in their self-destructive behavior. I suppose gay men’s lives have “value” based on some kind of abstract moral reasoning. But that “value” doesn’t mean they have a right to sexual fulfillment, for the simple reason that nobody has such a right. Instead we have let gay men set the standard for this entitlement mentality that threatens to bring down civilization.

Apparently, at Return of Kings, any excuse for homophobic rants will do.

 

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Tanya
5 years ago

Wait – so an old man hitting on a teen (boy or girl) isn’t a problem in and of itself, it’s only a problem because the man is crossing into his son’s territory, making the teen boyfriend or girlfriend in question, only important as a piece of meat to fight over with no say of his or her own….

Gotcha.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Most sexual predators are straight men. I will never understand how anyone can be so hateful towards people that will never affect their or other people’s lives.

If only we can be that harsh on abusers, rapists, etc.

Tanya
5 years ago

Fruitloopsie, though point of fact, straight, gay or bi men are as likely to be sexual predators as any other. The issue isn’t being gay or straight, really, but being a male raised in our culture.

ryohji
ryohji
5 years ago

@Tanya

Seems that someone has some daddy issues.

freemage
5 years ago

The mummy butt-taser thing may be one of the most condensed doses of WTF’ery that I’ve encountered on this site. I mean, is the mummy supposed to feel it? Is it some bizarre attempt to create a cross between Karloff’s The Mummy and Frankenstein’s monster? I just… I cannot even fathom what he’s blabbering about.

Oh, as for the site he linked to talking about adult kids upset about their parent’s sexuality…

Almost every one of those that I’ve seen invariably links back to a single Canadian woman who is utterly entrenched in her religion-based homophobia. She even cites (without naming it) utterly despeciable Mark Regnerus study, which has been so thoroughly debunked that his name is on a par with anti-vax twit Andrew Wakefield. Basically, she’s either a liar (if she knows the study is complete tripe), a fool (if she believes it’s scientifically sound) or both (it’s almost always both).

I’m not saying she wasn’t abused/neglected as a kid, or that her father’s boyfriends didn’t do creepy shit. I can’t know that, and I tend to fall on the side of the person alleging abuse, at least in terms of making sure they get the help they need. But even if she was abused, she’s allowed that abuse to twist her thinking and her compassion into a horrible thing, and it doesn’t surprise me that Forney is using an article that cites her as proof, because Forney is pond-scum.

Spindrift
Spindrift
5 years ago

“Uh, what? Is there some secret brigade of gay archeologists going around tasering mummies?”

“The mummy” remake takes an unexpected twist!

Ox-ee-mor-on (@JoeKlemmer)

Someone on RotK actually says that nobody has the right to sexual fulfillment?!? The place where alphas explain to the world that the sole reason for the existence of females is for the sexual fulfillment of said alphas?

I completely understand.

Mike Holmes
5 years ago

Hooboy. The irony of a commenter on RoK calling out a group for “entitlement to sexual fulfillment” is rich. Isn’t the whole movement predicated on establishing mens’ untrammeled access to sex from women?

Fnarf
Fnarf
5 years ago

The vast majority of butt-sex-havers are straight, not gay.

Aunt Edna
Aunt Edna
5 years ago

LMAO @ Redpillian Manlojick (TM).

“(…) they’re narcissists who can’t be bothered to integrate into society yet constantly demand that (…) people approve of their life choices.”

Aw, redpillian projection for the win.

“But that “value” doesn’t mean they have a right to sexual fulfillment, for the simple reason that nobody has such a right. Instead we have let (…) men set the standard for this entitlement mentality that threatens to bring down civilization.”

Damn right.

Just wish redpillians were able to grow some capacity for self-reflection and take their own words to heart, as they apply to them more than anyone else. Because if they were not enamored with the notion of male sexual entitlement, they’d not be redpillians.

Falconer
5 years ago

The mummy butt-taser thing

It begins to dawn on me that I may not have read this article as closely as I could have.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

I’m confused. Is the train conductor gay or not? Or is this asshole saying that gay guys make trains crash the same way that, what’s his face? Billy O’Reilly or some shit? The same way an old, white, evangelical fuckhead claims gay peeps make hurricanes and shit?

(Also, I’ve changed my name from Banana Jackie Cake because this name is fucking 100000000000000000000x better.)

Falconer
5 years ago

who think shoving a taser up a mummy’s ass makes for a fun Friday night.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqma1b1y8h1qf4sef.gif

Dan kasteray
Dan kasteray
5 years ago

Wtf does driving a train fast have to do with posting dick pics?

Its almost like this guy thinks that all other people in the world exist only in his mind so they must share all of his personal failings.

Beyond that … Just … Wtf?

mildlymagnificent
5 years ago

I completely understand.

You’re well ahead of me in that case.

As for the “mummy ass tasering”. I think we’ve now discovered that WTF!!!! is totally inadequate for some situations. This being one of them.

Falconer
5 years ago

@Dan kasteray: I saw someone (from the Family Research Counsel, I think) speculating that the engineer may have been running the train too fast because he was A Gay and thus “confused about his fundamental identity” (para.).

Better watch out for The Gays, they taser mummies and, even worse, they’re all leadfoots.

Falconer
5 years ago

They have some nominal, moral value, I guess, but there’s nothing saying I can’t begrudge them it. /sarcasm

idledillettante
5 years ago

What planet is Matt Forney living on? Does he actually has the chutzpah to write articles for ROK on how “fat chicks don’t deserve love” when Forney himself is tubbier than Crisco and bald as an egg?!

Wow. I’m not gonna wish that Forney himself never find love because he’s a bald fattie – though such a curse would be a taste of his own medicine. I don’t have to, because it’s obvious that Forney’s views will keep him from experiencing love as long as he clings to them.

freemage
5 years ago

Falconer: Glad I could bring your attention to the shining pinnacle of the post, then. I may have to find a way to incorporate a secret society of mummy butt-taserers to some future role-playing game. And then when my players stare at me in dumbfounded shock, I shall inform them that there’s someone out there who actually seems to believe that this is a thing. And then we shall all drink heavily and weep for humanity.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Oh, manosphere logic. If a gay man puts dick pics on a dick pic site for people who wish to look at or send dick pics, it’s a sign someone is degenerate and dangerous. A straight man sends unsolicited dick pics to a woman and it’s alpha behavior and we should be flattered.

Didn’t advanced atheist troll here a couple weeks ago?

KathleenB
KathleenB
5 years ago


What?

Wait, that’s not some kind of elaborate joke?

Are we SURE it’s not a joke? Because that is a whole lot of WTF?!?, even for the manosphere.

Falconer
5 years ago

@freemage: I had a recent pulp adventure game going that featured a weird scientist with an electricity theme, and was working up towards Egyptian adventures, so I suppose it probably would have involved cattle-prodding a dessicated tuchus or two, but not all sexy-like.

Sadly, a baby is happening to one of the players and it looks like the campaign is defunct.

Spindrift
Spindrift
5 years ago

So can we assume from this that Andreas Lubitz must have crashed that plane cause he was straight and straight people have a secret dark agenda? Or does that argument only work when demonising homosexuality?

These people couldn’t logic their way out of a wet paper bag.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Mummy butt taserers is a good name for a punk band.

I actually do agree that homophobia might not be the best word for anti-gay bigotry. Some people hate because they’re terrible people, not because they fear the object of their hate. Or what they fear is losing their privilege not the group they’re bigoted against.

Spindrift
Spindrift
5 years ago

“There is nothing wrong with being revolted by people who spread disease through reckless sex”

Anyone else think that’s rather rich considering where he’s posting this? How oblivious can they get?

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Tanya
You are right

“who think shoving a taser up a mummy’s ass makes for a fun Friday night.”
http://media0.giphy.com/media/jUwpNzg9IcyrK/giphy.gif
I have not been reading this article closely and I believe that’s necrophilia. I don’t want to know anymore what goes on in this guys brain.

Dan kasteray
“Wtf does driving a train fast have to do with posting dick pics?”

The train is a penis and the tunnel is the vagina…I guess?

potterchik
5 years ago

Did I miss something? Who is getting all this taser-mummy buttlovin’?

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
5 years ago

weirwoodtreehugger | May 18, 2015 at 3:24 pm
“Oh, manosphere logic. If a gay man puts dick pics on a dick pic site for people who wish to look at or send dick pics, it’s a sign someone is degenerate and dangerous. A straight man sends unsolicited dick pics to a woman and it’s alpha behavior and we should be flattered.”

I read somewhere that made fun of homophobes by posting a meaning to the word: “Homophobia- the fear of gay men treating you the way you treat women and lesbians treating other women better than you.”

Of course there are female homophobes as well.

Falconer
5 years ago

@potterchik: It’s Matt Forney’s personal contribution to the ZOMG MENZ BUTTSECHS panic.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
5 years ago

Apparently, the latest anti-gay political strategy is to collect sob stories from people whose gay parents happened to be assholes or otherwise dysfunctional. I see it popping up everywhere, even in the Finnish gay marriage debate.

(The Parliament just approved marriage equality but that didn’t stop the conservatives from arguing against it)

Binjabreel
5 years ago

As hilarious as this is, I suspect he might mean “mummy” like a British mom. My god I hope he does.

RedFox
RedFox
5 years ago

I’ve always maintained the the “phobic” part implies being repulsed rather than necessarily afraid. Like, most lipids are hydrophobic and are repulsed by water. And some lipids have a hyrdophobic side and a hydrophilic side… one is repulsed by water, and another that sticks.

Moocow
Moocow
5 years ago

@WWTH

“Oh, manosphere logic. If a gay man puts dick pics on a dick pic site for people who wish to look at or send dick pics, it’s a sign someone is degenerate and dangerous. A straight man sends unsolicited dick pics to a woman and it’s alpha behavior and we should be flattered.”

^ Seconded, thirded, fourthed, etc… I hate their contradictory ass-backwards ‘logic’ with a burning passion!

Seriously, if a dude wants to put picks of his dick on the internet, I can’t imagine a better place to put it than on Dicks.com

zoon echon logon
zoon echon logon
5 years ago

Considering how stupid and reality-orthogonal these people (Forney, Roosh, et al.) are, I really would not be surprised if Forney posted something about how he was trying to make a sandwich but instead attacked his own face with a claw hammer, and somehow this was the fault of lesbians.

Cthulhu's Intern
5 years ago

Why do people go on about how the engineer was gay? How is that even relevant? Like, I heard someone call him the “gay ginger.” Surely (what’s most likely) criminal negligence comes in all sexual orientations and hair colors

LBT
LBT
5 years ago

RE: Falconer

Sadly, a baby is happening to one of the players and it looks like the campaign is defunct.

How are YOUR babies, good sir?

RE: Arctic Ape

Apparently, the latest anti-gay political strategy is to collect sob stories from people whose gay parents happened to be assholes or otherwise dysfunctional.

Pfft. At least two generations of straight parents in my family were dysfunctional as fuck. Does that mean I get to deny all heterosexuals their filthy marriaging?

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

Gay marriage, typically framed as a matter of “love,” can easily be used to enable homosexual child molesters.

Given the huge number of MRAs that are admitted child molesters and the even bigger number that are campaigning for the lowering or total removal of the age of consent… Somehow, his concern doesn’t feel so genuine to me.

Kestrel
Kestrel
5 years ago

Mr. Forney knows he is posting this unabashed turd of a post on a site dedicated to raw dogging it with as many willing-ish partners as possible, right? I am so confused.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

I would like to see the return of social norms where gays feel shame and humility again because they face sanctions against “expressing themselves,” and where they especially have a lot of trouble finding each other to engage in their self-destructive behavior. I suppose gay men’s lives have “value” based on some kind of abstract moral reasoning. But that “value” doesn’t mean they have a right to sexual fulfillment, for the simple reason that nobody has such a right. Instead we have let gay men set the standard for this entitlement mentality that threatens to bring down civilization.

…says the entitled shitlord who prides himself on doing to women exactly what he imagines gay men do to other guys. (Or trying to, because I can’t see anyone with his worse-than-plain looks and repulsive personality succeeding at it.)

I reiterate what I said on another thread: if all these guys merely said “ewwww, queers ICKY!”, instead of trying (and failing hilariously) to intellectualize their squick, they’d at least get a small morsel of grudging respect from me, the kind one feels when patting the head of a little kid throwing a tantrum. Because then we’d see that it IS just a knee-jerk reaction on their part. But noooo, they just have to dress it up with pseudo-intellectual posturing, which ironically reveals why they’re really squicked: They fear that gay men will try to do to them EXACTLY what they try (and fail) to do to women.

And yes, I think that a lot of them secretly do fantasize about it, and also fear that they will enjoy being “seduced” by a gay guy who tops them. For a guy who’s trying desperately to be Alpha As Fuck, what could be a greater forbidden sin?

Meanwhile, that mummy-butt-tasering bit is so far out of the blue that it could only have come from his own ass, and I don’t want to speculate how he came upon it. I have run out of even to can’t. Could anyone please lend me a cup of it until I replenish my supply?

Flora
Flora
5 years ago

Two thoughts:

1) Everybody trying to figure out the logical consequences of this is, as usual, demonstrating their incapacity for supreme alpha male manly manlogics™. Using superior manlogics™ means you start with your conclusion and THEN figure out your reasoning. Stupid feminists always get it backwards.

2) Mummy butt tasering sounds like either a very specific subgenre of porn, or a hilariously cheesy Brendan Frasier parody porn. Either way, somebody has been watching way too much porn if they think it accurately depicts reality.

LBT
LBT
5 years ago

RE: Scented Fucking Hard Chairs

That line irritates ME because of a few things.

1. It equates being gay with being a child rapist.
2. It equates raping children with a sexual orientation.

The grandfather in my family attacked both boys and girls, but portrayed himself as a straight man. I don’t think dude was a closeted bisexual, I think he was a DICK.

opium4themasses
5 years ago

Why is does it always end up in ass play talk with these guys. The anti-gay bigots talk more about it than any gay men I have known.

Plus, if they hate it so much, why is it such a big then in straight porn? Why aren’t they making a hue and cry about straight assplay? Oh right. Bigots looking for any excuse.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

It’s not a stretch to argue that a man obsessed with showing off his private parts to strangers might also be inclined to show off how fast he can drive a runaway train.

LBT
LBT
5 years ago

RE: Bina

And yes, I think that a lot of them secretly do fantasize about it, and also fear that they will enjoy being “seduced” by a gay guy who tops them. For a guy who’s trying desperately to be Alpha As Fuck, what could be a greater forbidden sin?

Hey, as a gay dude, that actually makes me really uncomfortable. We don’t know what these guys feel or want, and I’d rather not have them tossed in MY camp as a sort of karmic justice, you know?

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

Plus, if they hate it so much, why is it such a big then in straight porn? Why aren’t they making a hue and cry about straight assplay?

Because to them, it’s only meet and right that men should hurt and humiliate women (i.e. “put them in their place”) by subordinating them and shoving things up their butts. But if MEN do that to each other (even, gasp, consensually!), then it’s Evil and Unnatural and The End Of The World As We Know It.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

There is nothing wrong with being revolted by people who spread disease through reckless sex, who adopt children so they can abuse them sexually,

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The projection is strong with this one.

LBT
LBT
5 years ago

RE: Lea

It’s hilarious to me because it sounds EXACTLY like g0y shit… only g0ys claim that grooming teen boys for sex is totally acceptable. They LOATHE the buttsex though, which is the TRUE immorality and form of masculine disrespect!

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

Hey, as a gay dude, that actually makes me really uncomfortable. We don’t know what these guys feel or want, and I’d rather not have them tossed in MY camp as a sort of karmic justice, you know?

Oops…sorry about that. I didn’t mean to put you on the spot! You’re right, he’s definitely too repugnant for anyone.

Quantuminc
Quantuminc
5 years ago

I want to believe that somehow the anti-other-people-having-sex and the pro-me-having-sex are two different groups, but I think some of the posts about Roosh Validez prove that both can come from the same person.

Essentially these people believe that human civilization is made out of men sexually dominating women. All of these men having sex with other men, women dominating men, women refusing to be dominated, or refusing to have sex inevitably detract from civilization because to them civilization is based around women submitting to their husbands, following orders, satisfying him, etc. Most people would say that the fundamental basis of civilization is a person’s willingness to work with other people. Many MRAs and redpills imagine something more similar to a “hardcore” porno.

paradoxicalintent
paradoxicalintent
5 years ago

Meanwhile, at RoK Headquarters:
“Hey! A terrible tragedy has occurred, causing lots of death! Who could be responsible for such a thing?!”

*throws a dart at a dartboard*

“Homosexuals and homosexuality?! But how? …wait! I’ve got it! After some digging, I’ve discovered that this individual posted dick pics online! It’s all starting to come together now!”

And a few hours later, a new RoK post crawls out of the toxic goo for all the internets to see.

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