So you may have heard vague rumors that there’s a new Mad Max film coming out. You also may have heard that it stars Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa alongside Tom Hardy as Mr. Max.
Well, the manly men of the Manospshere are having none of it. On the always terrible Return of Kings, the most-trafficked blog in the Manosphere, Youtube bloviator Aaron Clarey issues a clarion call to his fellow right-thinking men, urging them to
Not only REFUSE to see the movie, but spread the word to as many men as possible. … Because if [men] sheepishly attend and Fury Road is a blockbuster, then you, me, and all the other men (and real women) in the world will never be able to see a real action movie ever again that doesn’t contain some damn political lecture or moray about feminism, SJW-ing, and socialism.
Er, “moray?”
As Clarey sees it, the central flaw in this film that he hasn’t seen is, well, it’s going to be starring Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa. And that’s just not right, because everyone knows that women are just too damn womeny to be postapocalyptical badasses.
Even worse: in one of the trailers for the film “Charlize Theron’s character barked orders to Mad Max. Nobody barks orders to Mad Max.”
Clarey also reports, with a kind of growing horror, that none other than Eve Ensler, of Vagina Monologues fame, was brought in to consult on the film. (And trust me, Clarey’s discomfort with Ensler has nothing to do with her issues with intersectionality.)
Sure, Clarey acknowledges, Fury Road — at least on the surface — “looks like that action guy flick we’ve desperately been waiting for where it is one man with principles, standing against many with none.” But, he warns, despite not having actually seen even a minute of the actual film, nothing could be further from the truth!
[L]et us be clear. … This is the Trojan Horse feminists and Hollywood leftists will use to (vainly) insist on the trope women are equal to men in all things, including physique, strength, and logic. And this is the subterfuge they will use to blur the lines between masculinity and femininity, further ruining women for men, and men for women.
Lines between masculinity and femininity blurring! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes. The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!
Clarey worries that
men in America and around the world are going to be duped by explosions, fire tornadoes, and desert raiders into seeing what is guaranteed to be nothing more than feminist propaganda, while at the same time being insulted AND tricked into viewing a piece of American culture ruined and rewritten right in front of their very eyes.
You might think that someone this worried about the legacy of the original Mad Max might have noticed somewhere along the way that Mad Max is not actually a “piece of American culture” at all. It was an Australian film, filmed in Australia, directed by an Australian, and starring an American citizen who’d been living in Australia since the age of twelve.
I’m guessing that the director of Fury Road might have a somewhat more nuanced understanding of the original Mad Max than someone who doesn’t even know what country the movie was made in, especially given that the director of Fury Road, the director of the original Mad Max, the director of The Road Warrior and the director of Beyond Thunderdome are actually all the very same person.
But over on Return of Kings the fellas are as furious about Furiosa as Clarey is. In the top comment to Clarey’s piece, with several dozen upvotes, someone calling himself “truth” complains that the evil feminists who run Hollywood are ignoring the immutable truths of gender.
Hollywood is a garbage propoganda machine which spews out this feminist drivel filth into the minds of today’s young audience. Even though science has told us and proven, that men are physically stronger than women, it is nonetheless discarded by the forces driving this feminist nonsense.
There is a sick agenda at play here, and it only continues to get worse over time. First this, and now the upcoming “Terminator Genisys” which shows Sarah Connor in a more heroic and superior position to that of Kyle Reese, really makes me wonder how much further down the toilet society is going to go down, in it’s ridiculous attempts to try and reverse the traditional gender and biological roles.
Because “traditional” and “biological” roles always seem to be the exact same thing to these guys.
It is clear that the brainwashing of the masses will continue to go on with the promotion of these absurd movies in conjunction with the whole “girl power” themes that are present in these films. Furthermore, factor in the indoctrination of the liberal schooling and educational system, there is no doubt, that masculinity will be attacked from all sides in attempt to make the female gender more superior. …
I guess from the damage that I am seeing on a daily basis being inflicted by the feminist movement, there is really no turning back. Men will continue to opt out of society and by rejecting to watch these kind of movies, can help to further cement this narrative. And if ever, should the manginas and white knights reach that epiphany when they realise they are not perceived as a credible voice in this feminist driven gynocentric matriarchy that we live in, then even they will opt out of society.
Huh. And, let me guess, once the men all “opt out of society,” it’ll collapse in a giant heap and desperate women will turn to men for help? No wonder these guys are so angry about Fury Road; it challenges their favorite apocalyptic fantasy. Call it Mad Max: I Told You Bitches You’d Come Crawling Back to Me.
Women and feminists in general have without a doubt, proven that they are dysfunctional by nature and cannot be trusted with anything. And this movie helps to prove it.
FWIW, dude, the movie was directed by a man. It was written by men. And even though it’s got a lot more women in it than your typical action movie, most of the named actors in it are male. But apparently, to guys like Clarey and “truth,” it only takes a few drops of female blood to contaminate an entire action film.
Always maintain your masculinity.
And once again it’s the guys who think of themselves as the most macho who are the ones most anxious about their masculinity.
Truth is also horrified by one of the posters he’s seen for the film:
Even though the movie is called “Mad Max”, the poster clearly centres around Charlize Theron, while Tom Hardy looks like some ordinary guy in the background.
A woman’s face … in front of a man’s face! Can masculinity survive this terrible assault?
Slashfund complains that in the poster it “looks like he is wearing a muzzle like her bitch.”
Well, not really. Anyone who’s seen the original Max Max and its first two sequels may remember that a lot of the characters wore weird headgear and creepy masks; this was intended to make them look scary and, you know, postapocalyptic. Max’s new mask is no different.
Clark Kent whines
Where I can’t stand these female characters in kickass movies is when it is so damn obvious that they are forcing the female character in just to appeal to the blue-pill masses. The whole point of Mad Max is that he is the most hardened self-respecting man in the post-apocalyptic world. He lived through the decline, and thus carries all the grief of having been strong enough to see what the world has become.
To turn Mad Max upside down and make it into a feminist flick is horribly telling of our times. Rather than creating new films to depict the world from a women’s perspective, we take the great myths of men and boys and rewrite them to make women happy.
What? Mad Max is a “great myth of men and boys” now? It’s a movie made in 1979, not a tale told around the campfire by our ancient ancestors. And don’t any of you Return of Kingers remember Beyond Thunderdome, the second Mad Max sequel, released six years after the original? You know, the one co-starring Tina Turner, stomping around like a badass as the ruthless ruler of Bartertown?
Like it or not, fellas, but badass women are part of Mad Max canon.
MajorStyles, for his part, suggests that the film may be part of a sinister plot to con men into liking women with (gasp!) short hair — a major Manosphere bugaboo.
And what’s the end game of all this horse shit? That Alpha men will start finding bald, androgyonous women with anger issues attractive? Yeah, when pigs fly…
Again, another fail on the part of Team Feminism. As it has been noted many times, they do not get to order men what to be attracted to. Erections cannot be legislated. Only a man of supreme thirst would find this angynous thing attractive.
And the women who choose to impersonate Theron’s look in this movie will always be relagated to the same position – bridesmaid, cat lady, or beta male abuser.
TS77RP1, meanwhile, wants his fellow men to think of the children. And what he thinks about the children — specifically, those of the female persuasion — is genuinely horrifying.
Seriously: if you’re having a decent day so far, or, hell, a crappy one — basically, if you’re a having any sort of day so far, you may want to skip the rest of this post. No joke.
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Ok, if you’re still with me, here we go:
The only way back is to begin punishing ambition in our daughters and in all female children. They need to be physically and psychologically disciplined to be servile and deferential and they unfortunately need to have it beaten into them that they should NEVER trust their own judgement and always seek guidance and permission of their male headships.
Please tell me this monster doesn’t have a daughter.
My daughter would be turned out with nothing but a shirt on her back if she so much as looked at a college website or played with her brother’s educational toys.
Aw, fuck.
She would be belted to the point of being unable to sit if she exhibited confidence in decision making.
Fucking hell. A proud abuser.
I don’t want my wife to step foot out of the house unless her every dime and minute spent can be accounted for and executed in conjuncture with my approval. My daughter will exude obedience and timidity for whoever her future husband is and it’s imperative that all Christian Men demand nothing less within their own homes. Playtime for feminazis and the left is over. This is our world and our heritage to protect. Let the cultural war begin!
No words.
In a followup comment, he assures one skeptic that his wife and daughter are indeed real.
I do in fact implement this in my own home and practice what I preach vehemently. I have a daughter and sons and they are being raised to know that they are unequivocally different and 100% not equal. My wife is from a highly devout family and she was cowed long ago into obedience by her powerful, alpha father. I kinda won the life lottery >:^)
I can only hope that he’s bullshitting in an attempt to impress the Return of Kings regulars.
But impress them he does, winning upvotes and an awestruck comment by englishbob:
Wow! Its like you have a mini Saudi Arabia right in your home!
Apparently hatred of women trumps hatred of Muslims on Return of Kings.
I have no idea if Mad Max: Fury Road is actually going to be a good film. But I hope it does well, very well, if for no other reason than to spite these assholes.
@NickNamedNick:
They really, really do. Every character in those shows is a cardboard cutout with little bits of actual character tacked on every so often. It’s like the reverse of the sitcom character progression in the comic here, only they never truly get fleshed out in a way that affects the joke of the day. Which is kinda funny because these are cartoons designed to emulate the style of a sitcom.
@ Moocow
I wonder if there’s something akin to Maslow’s Hierarchy here; a need for external validation because they lack confidence in themselves?
In other words they set themselves up some perceived, and rather daft, checklist of what it means to be a man and then set out to tick the boxes; albeit in a fantasy world rather than real life.
I suspect you’re also correct with your comments on violence. it’s funny, for various reasons I know a few people who have to use violence on a professional basis. On paper these guys are the theoretical archetypes of the sorts of figures the MRA chaps fantasise about and try to emulate with their computer games. The irony of course that the real guys are often the gentlest, kindest people you could meet
It’s doubly funny because one of my mates has a CV that reads like something from a Tom Clancy novel; and does he feel the need to dominate and boss around women? Well, let’s just say that he’s more than happy to let “the long haired general” (as he puts it) call the shots.
@ Lea
They also have impeccable table manners.
[I get a lot of things like this sent to me by a special someone who’s trying to convert me to veganism]
@Kirby
Some of the writers overlap with each show, some of the directors overlap with each show, but the humor is very easy to imitate. Many of the writers have worked on Harvey Birdman, Beavis and Butthead, King of the Hill, The Simpsons, all sorts of similar shows with similar situations and humor. (Which explains how, for instance, American Dad and King of the Hill dealt with transfats so similarly.)
If you define strength as only the number of pushups one can do, then yes males are generally stronger than females. But females have other distinct advantages like generally being healthier, living longer, tolerating emotional stress, starvation, temperature extremes, etc generally better than males. Those are strengths. If you consider all possible things under the heading of “strength”, one could make a pretty good case than males are in fact the weaker sex.
No, not all women could whip every man’s ass but not all men can whip every woman’s ass. There are always outliers and equality of opportunity and under the law is the goal. No one ever said we were physically equal in all ways…whatever “equal” means considering multiple factors and variables.
These guys seem to all labor under the delusion that they are He-Men that no mere female could possibly best. I’d like to introduce these basement dwellers to a few of my friends who grew up in the country with big brothers or fathers who taught them to take no shit lol!
If your masculinity is threatened by a fictional female character yelling at or beating a fictional male character, you might want to consider a dick implant because (figuratively speaking) yours is micro or doesn’t exist.
@Kirbywrap:
Loved that cartoon, especially for superheros and female characters – the latter because that’s the same exact evolution of Samus Aran. I have never played The Other M and never will…
@Alan
Perhaps. I’m not sure where it all originates from but I definitely think boys are socialized like this from a pretty young age. My experience is pretty biased, I got ostracized by my peers a lot, sometimes because I would react badly or because I didn’t want to fight back. Sadly, it’s still something I see even in my friends today. The underlying power-play that seems to be there in any fucking interaction. It’s tense, it’s annoying. I don’t want to constantly have to feel ‘en garde’.
“It’s doubly funny because one of my mates has a CV that reads like something from a Tom Clancy novel; and does he feel the need to dominate and boss around women? Well, let’s just say that he’s more than happy to let “the long haired general” (as he puts it) call the shots.”
Lawl, awesome! Sadly the rationalization hamsters of the manosphere would probably be like “well he’s clearly NOT A MAN because a woman tells him what to do”.
Which reminds me,
Scrubs has probably one of the finest examples of society reinforcing this toxic idea. Dr Cox constantly ridiculing JD for being more in touch with his emotions or doing stereotypically “feminine” things and a whole episode dedicated to literally “taking away his ‘man’ card”…. as in, cards with the word MAN written on them that he periodically takes away from JD when he catches him doing something ‘unmanly’
@ cretaceous kitty
An old one doing the rounds on various military bulletin boards that you might appreciate.
Dear Ma and Pa:
I am well. Hope you are. Tell Brother Walt and Brother Elmer the Marine Corps beats working for old man Minch by a mile. Tell them to join up quick before maybe all of the places are filled. I was restless at first because you got to stay in bed till nearly 6 a.m., but am getting so I like to sleep late.
Tell Walt and Elmer all you do before breakfast is smooth your cot and shine some things. No hogs to slop, feed to pitch, mash to mix, wood to split, fire to lay. Practically nothing. Men got to shave but it is not so bad, there’s warm water.
Breakfast is strong on trimmings like fruit juice, cereal, eggs, bacon, and stuff, but kind of weak on chops, potatoes, ham, steak, fried eggplant, pie and other regular food. But tell Walt and Elmer you can always sit by two city boys that live on coffee. Their food plus yours holds you till noon, when you get fed again. It’s no wonder these city boys can’t walk much.
We go on “route” marches, which the Platoon Sergeant says are long walks to harden us. If he thinks so, it is not my place to tell him different. A “route march” is about as far as to our mailbox at home. Then the city guys get sore feet and we all ride back in trucks. The country is nice, but awful flat.
The Sergeant is like a schoolteacher. He nags some. The Capt. is like the school board. Majors and Colonels just ride around and frown. They don’t bother you none.
This next will kill Walt and Elmer with laughing. I keep getting medals for shooting. I don’t know why. The bulls-eye is near as big as a chipmunk head and don’t move. And it ain’t shooting at you, like the Higgett boys at home. All you got to do is lie there all comfortable and hit it. You don’t even load your own cartridges. They come in little metal boxes.
Then we have what they call hand-to-hand combat training. You get to wrestle with them city boys. I have to be real careful though, they break easy. It ain’t like fighting with that ole bull at home. I’m about the best they got in this except for that Tug Jordan from over in Silver Lake. He joined up the same time as me. But I’m only 5’6″ and 130 pounds and he’s 6’8″ and weighs near 300 pounds dry.
Be sure to tell Walt and Elmer to hurry and join before other fellers get onto this setup and come stampeding in.
Your loving daughter,
Gail
Alan
When I was in Jrotc one of our teachers read that to us and we laughed and clapped at the end! XD
Sadly, I think it’s likely that he isn’t.
http://rachelheldevans.com/blog/samantha-field-stay-at-home-daughters
See also: anything that Michael or Debi Pearl has written.
The idea of masculinity as a finite resource that must be preserved and cultivated, lest it be lost beyond recall, is disturbing. The he-man child beater would crumple like wet papier-mache if he was faced with resistance from someone he could not bully or intimidate. Nothing admirable or dignified about that.
It cannot be a pleasant way to live your life, yet he probably insists to himself that he is doing well. I read years ago, “the throne room is as much of a prison as the dungeon,” except it’s easier to see the dungeon that way.
From the OT:
I thought these guys were big, bad, libullterians? I mean, If there are enough of the “blue-pill masses” (or their ‘green’ at any rate) to warrant badass female characters, isn’t this just the all-seeing, all powerful, always correct market behaving as the demand dictates? I don’t know; it’s almost as if these guys were full of shit or something!
My grandmother is more secure in her masculinity than these pantywaists.
Good. More for me.
Gack, I read more of those comments by TS77RP1. In one of them he advises belting your daughter if she smiles at you. For real. Also reporting him via Kirby’s link.
My flatmate is an ex-army frontline cop who at the same time works at a gym and is training to qualify for the Armed Offenders Squad (sort of like SWAT, I think?) while *also* raising her one year old daughter full time because her ex is a useless loser. And this is all after suffering some pretty serious injuries from being hit by a car while biking several years ago. I can just imagine how these guys would react to her. I honestly think an awful lot of guys could not deal with the things a lot of women put up with as a matter of course, and they secretly know that.
TS77
http://www.embeddedintel.com/solution_providers.php?article=2445
RP1
http://www.amazon.com/Rega-RP1-Turntable-Cool-Gray/dp/B004B3GELG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1431476166&sr=1-1&keywords=rega+-+rp1+turntable
Maybe relevant?
This guy isn’t new to the manosphere, even though this account was created just a while ago. He really hates non-misogynist Christians. He likes to imagine hurting women and bragging about how strong abusing women and children makes him. I’ll bet he’s been kicked out of some Christian sites. He’ll have other accounts. Any advice from more tech savvy folks?
At this point I’m fairly sure he’s just another bullshitter looking for cookies from other men but check this shit out.
One of his favorite sites is:
Trigger Warning
http://manwithoutfather.com/about/.
http://manwithoutfather.com/2015/04/27/yes-all-men-are-rapists/
Wow. That’s one troubled person.
http://manwithoutfather.com/how-to-read-me/
“Tom Arrow” suggests reading Mike Cernovich. Of course he does.
Banana Jackie Cake, FtB *is* a diverse place with no overarching structure to tell it’s members what to do. They mostly share a lefty, social justice bent but how that’s expressed varies wildly.
Pharyngula* for instance is a rude blog, and proudly so. Folks who don’t like ‘foul’ language don’t do well there, but at the same time ableism, misogyny, and racism never get a pass.
Shorter: poke around and you’ll probably be able to find something of worth to you.
*Full disclosure: I’m a monitor on Pharyngula, which just means I can send emails directly to PZ when I see something that breaks the rules.
Sunnysombrera
Oh hunny! I told you not to read them!
Lea
I don’t care if he is “bulls***ing” he needs to be reported. Either way he’s promoting disgusting abuse and encouraging others to follow in his footsteps so we all need to take cowardly monsters like these seriously and report them asap.
Trigger Warning:
No way that doesn’t break the ToS.
I’m also a fan of PZ and the Horde.
@Lea
I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s been kicked off of other misogynist boards. Even a couple dudes at ROK have called him a troll looking for trouble – and if one day he does get banned from Return of Kings of all places, what the hell does that say about him??
I reported him. I hope everyone does.
@fruitloopsie
I saw the link to his Disqus before I saw your warning, which I think is on the previous page? Anyway, morbidly curious that I am, I clicked.