So you may have heard vague rumors that there’s a new Mad Max film coming out. You also may have heard that it stars Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa alongside Tom Hardy as Mr. Max.
Well, the manly men of the Manospshere are having none of it. On the always terrible Return of Kings, the most-trafficked blog in the Manosphere, Youtube bloviator Aaron Clarey issues a clarion call to his fellow right-thinking men, urging them to
Not only REFUSE to see the movie, but spread the word to as many men as possible. … Because if [men] sheepishly attend and Fury Road is a blockbuster, then you, me, and all the other men (and real women) in the world will never be able to see a real action movie ever again that doesn’t contain some damn political lecture or moray about feminism, SJW-ing, and socialism.
Er, “moray?”
As Clarey sees it, the central flaw in this film that he hasn’t seen is, well, it’s going to be starring Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa. And that’s just not right, because everyone knows that women are just too damn womeny to be postapocalyptical badasses.
Even worse: in one of the trailers for the film “Charlize Theron’s character barked orders to Mad Max. Nobody barks orders to Mad Max.”
Clarey also reports, with a kind of growing horror, that none other than Eve Ensler, of Vagina Monologues fame, was brought in to consult on the film. (And trust me, Clarey’s discomfort with Ensler has nothing to do with her issues with intersectionality.)
Sure, Clarey acknowledges, Fury Road — at least on the surface — “looks like that action guy flick we’ve desperately been waiting for where it is one man with principles, standing against many with none.” But, he warns, despite not having actually seen even a minute of the actual film, nothing could be further from the truth!
[L]et us be clear. … This is the Trojan Horse feminists and Hollywood leftists will use to (vainly) insist on the trope women are equal to men in all things, including physique, strength, and logic. And this is the subterfuge they will use to blur the lines between masculinity and femininity, further ruining women for men, and men for women.
Lines between masculinity and femininity blurring! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes. The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!
Clarey worries that
men in America and around the world are going to be duped by explosions, fire tornadoes, and desert raiders into seeing what is guaranteed to be nothing more than feminist propaganda, while at the same time being insulted AND tricked into viewing a piece of American culture ruined and rewritten right in front of their very eyes.
You might think that someone this worried about the legacy of the original Mad Max might have noticed somewhere along the way that Mad Max is not actually a “piece of American culture” at all. It was an Australian film, filmed in Australia, directed by an Australian, and starring an American citizen who’d been living in Australia since the age of twelve.
I’m guessing that the director of Fury Road might have a somewhat more nuanced understanding of the original Mad Max than someone who doesn’t even know what country the movie was made in, especially given that the director of Fury Road, the director of the original Mad Max, the director of The Road Warrior and the director of Beyond Thunderdome are actually all the very same person.
But over on Return of Kings the fellas are as furious about Furiosa as Clarey is. In the top comment to Clarey’s piece, with several dozen upvotes, someone calling himself “truth” complains that the evil feminists who run Hollywood are ignoring the immutable truths of gender.
Hollywood is a garbage propoganda machine which spews out this feminist drivel filth into the minds of today’s young audience. Even though science has told us and proven, that men are physically stronger than women, it is nonetheless discarded by the forces driving this feminist nonsense.
There is a sick agenda at play here, and it only continues to get worse over time. First this, and now the upcoming “Terminator Genisys” which shows Sarah Connor in a more heroic and superior position to that of Kyle Reese, really makes me wonder how much further down the toilet society is going to go down, in it’s ridiculous attempts to try and reverse the traditional gender and biological roles.
Because “traditional” and “biological” roles always seem to be the exact same thing to these guys.
It is clear that the brainwashing of the masses will continue to go on with the promotion of these absurd movies in conjunction with the whole “girl power” themes that are present in these films. Furthermore, factor in the indoctrination of the liberal schooling and educational system, there is no doubt, that masculinity will be attacked from all sides in attempt to make the female gender more superior. …
I guess from the damage that I am seeing on a daily basis being inflicted by the feminist movement, there is really no turning back. Men will continue to opt out of society and by rejecting to watch these kind of movies, can help to further cement this narrative. And if ever, should the manginas and white knights reach that epiphany when they realise they are not perceived as a credible voice in this feminist driven gynocentric matriarchy that we live in, then even they will opt out of society.
Huh. And, let me guess, once the men all “opt out of society,” it’ll collapse in a giant heap and desperate women will turn to men for help? No wonder these guys are so angry about Fury Road; it challenges their favorite apocalyptic fantasy. Call it Mad Max: I Told You Bitches You’d Come Crawling Back to Me.
Women and feminists in general have without a doubt, proven that they are dysfunctional by nature and cannot be trusted with anything. And this movie helps to prove it.
FWIW, dude, the movie was directed by a man. It was written by men. And even though it’s got a lot more women in it than your typical action movie, most of the named actors in it are male. But apparently, to guys like Clarey and “truth,” it only takes a few drops of female blood to contaminate an entire action film.
Always maintain your masculinity.
And once again it’s the guys who think of themselves as the most macho who are the ones most anxious about their masculinity.
Truth is also horrified by one of the posters he’s seen for the film:
Even though the movie is called “Mad Max”, the poster clearly centres around Charlize Theron, while Tom Hardy looks like some ordinary guy in the background.
A woman’s face … in front of a man’s face! Can masculinity survive this terrible assault?
Slashfund complains that in the poster it “looks like he is wearing a muzzle like her bitch.”
Well, not really. Anyone who’s seen the original Max Max and its first two sequels may remember that a lot of the characters wore weird headgear and creepy masks; this was intended to make them look scary and, you know, postapocalyptic. Max’s new mask is no different.
Clark Kent whines
Where I can’t stand these female characters in kickass movies is when it is so damn obvious that they are forcing the female character in just to appeal to the blue-pill masses. The whole point of Mad Max is that he is the most hardened self-respecting man in the post-apocalyptic world. He lived through the decline, and thus carries all the grief of having been strong enough to see what the world has become.
To turn Mad Max upside down and make it into a feminist flick is horribly telling of our times. Rather than creating new films to depict the world from a women’s perspective, we take the great myths of men and boys and rewrite them to make women happy.
What? Mad Max is a “great myth of men and boys” now? It’s a movie made in 1979, not a tale told around the campfire by our ancient ancestors. And don’t any of you Return of Kingers remember Beyond Thunderdome, the second Mad Max sequel, released six years after the original? You know, the one co-starring Tina Turner, stomping around like a badass as the ruthless ruler of Bartertown?
Like it or not, fellas, but badass women are part of Mad Max canon.
MajorStyles, for his part, suggests that the film may be part of a sinister plot to con men into liking women with (gasp!) short hair — a major Manosphere bugaboo.
And what’s the end game of all this horse shit? That Alpha men will start finding bald, androgyonous women with anger issues attractive? Yeah, when pigs fly…
Again, another fail on the part of Team Feminism. As it has been noted many times, they do not get to order men what to be attracted to. Erections cannot be legislated. Only a man of supreme thirst would find this angynous thing attractive.
And the women who choose to impersonate Theron’s look in this movie will always be relagated to the same position – bridesmaid, cat lady, or beta male abuser.
TS77RP1, meanwhile, wants his fellow men to think of the children. And what he thinks about the children — specifically, those of the female persuasion — is genuinely horrifying.
Seriously: if you’re having a decent day so far, or, hell, a crappy one — basically, if you’re a having any sort of day so far, you may want to skip the rest of this post. No joke.
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Ok, if you’re still with me, here we go:
The only way back is to begin punishing ambition in our daughters and in all female children. They need to be physically and psychologically disciplined to be servile and deferential and they unfortunately need to have it beaten into them that they should NEVER trust their own judgement and always seek guidance and permission of their male headships.
Please tell me this monster doesn’t have a daughter.
My daughter would be turned out with nothing but a shirt on her back if she so much as looked at a college website or played with her brother’s educational toys.
Aw, fuck.
She would be belted to the point of being unable to sit if she exhibited confidence in decision making.
Fucking hell. A proud abuser.
I don’t want my wife to step foot out of the house unless her every dime and minute spent can be accounted for and executed in conjuncture with my approval. My daughter will exude obedience and timidity for whoever her future husband is and it’s imperative that all Christian Men demand nothing less within their own homes. Playtime for feminazis and the left is over. This is our world and our heritage to protect. Let the cultural war begin!
No words.
In a followup comment, he assures one skeptic that his wife and daughter are indeed real.
I do in fact implement this in my own home and practice what I preach vehemently. I have a daughter and sons and they are being raised to know that they are unequivocally different and 100% not equal. My wife is from a highly devout family and she was cowed long ago into obedience by her powerful, alpha father. I kinda won the life lottery >:^)
I can only hope that he’s bullshitting in an attempt to impress the Return of Kings regulars.
But impress them he does, winning upvotes and an awestruck comment by englishbob:
Wow! Its like you have a mini Saudi Arabia right in your home!
Apparently hatred of women trumps hatred of Muslims on Return of Kings.
I have no idea if Mad Max: Fury Road is actually going to be a good film. But I hope it does well, very well, if for no other reason than to spite these assholes.
I’d like to add Leeloo Dallas. Also the Joy Luck Club. While those women in that movie weren’t necessarily physically strong, they knew how to survive through stuff that would probably make these MRAs soil their armor.
Moray have an undeserved reputation as vicious.
like most eels they’d rather run away from you than fight
Because there are a group of very misogynist atheists? And a lot of MRAs identify as atheists? And a lot of them are really abusive towards anyone who is religious? Especially if they identify or present as female?
No one said “all atheists are misogynistic!”, however, there is a huge group of them that are, and that’s what, to be totally honest, pushed me (far, far) away from the atheist community when I was introspecting for what my religious beliefs were. There’s this feeling of “cishet white male club” in the atheist community that really pushes a lot of people away.
Not to say that Christianity is somehow better in that regard, because it’s not. There’s a lot of room and excuse to be a MRA asshat, just look at Vox Day or some of these assholes here.
However: Your example is of one guy twisting the Bible for his own ends. And yes, there are a lot of men (and women) who agree with him. That doesn’t represent Christianity as a whole. Some of our regulars here are Christian, and they obviously don’t believe that.
And not all Atheists are MRAs either. But, there’s still an air of it wafting about.
TL;DR: There’s shitty people in every community, religious or not. Don’t try to deflect or “other” assholes in your community because it gives them an out to go “Well, they’re obviously not referring to me! I’m doing nothing wrong!”
That doesn’t mean there aren’t good people as well, but it does mean you understand that not everyone in your group, like it or not, is on the same page as you.
I was laughing my ass off at the initial insecurity and freakout over the movie… but goddamn that Quiverfull asshole just isn’t funny in the slightest. Even if he’s lying, he’s a sick asshole playing to a crowd of sick assholes. He definitely needs to be reported but I have no idea how one would go about doing that.
Ok I just went kirbywarp’s site and reported that monster, sent the link of that site and even went to his comment section of all the past comments on other posts and sent those too. Please don’t read them whatever you do because
http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/03/Damn-GIFS.gif
@Paradoxical Intention
That’s why I am an atheist who doesn’t do the whole atheist community thing. Dudebros spoiled it. Dudebros spoil everything. Especially dudebros who grew up in a(n often Christian) religious home and are trying to push that away from them so much that they are just so fucking intolerant of religion period. And some women too.
But, at least, unlike religion, atheism doesn’t try to make women and…well, no, no. That’s what evo-psych and people who misinterpret Darwin’s “survival of the fittest” do…um…
At least atheist know that the world changes and that people…oh, oh wait, evo-psychs. Right.
Okay, there are some stupid atheists out there who cite really bias, old and/or badly research papers out there to support their way of thinking. That’s…also many patriarchal bible-thumpers.
Wow, there is really little difference between assholes who just ignore things that prove their way of thinking wrong.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/welp.gif
Chocolat is not an “action” movie by any means, but I always found this scene supremely satisfying:
Notice how he comes on EXACTLY like our self-styling wife-and-daughter-abuser above, even telling her she’s “nothing” without him? And meanwhile, he’s the one who is nothing without her, because since she left him, his “manhood” is shit?
Chick flicks (so-called): more badass than action movies.
You know what, though? MRAsterpiece Theater has just released its first episode.
God, this reminds me of an early episode of American Dad:
The main character, uber-conservative CIA agent Stan Smith, is sent to Saudi Arabia by his boss as petty punishment over a personal matter. This is a guy who talks about how much he loves America while often complaining about it, wanting everything to go back to some idealized version of the 1950’s, and who is actively Islamophobic.
Anyway, as he spends time there, he learns more and more about the theocratic policies and comes to accept them – being as they line up with his views about how wives should not be equal partners – eventually renouncing his U.S. citizenship.
Despite priding themselves as being more socially advanced than a number of Middle Eastern societies under the rule of religious dictatorships, their views can be just as utterly backwards.Even professional washed-up comicbook writer Frank Miller did this – condemning parts of the Middle East for their mistreatment of women, but regularly saying and defending his own sexist attitudes towards women. As if that’s any better…
A Wolverine:
Run?
@Banana Jackie Cake:
Different tools, same shitty product. Assholes will use any tool in their arsenal, it doesn’t really matter as long as it supports their preconceived notions.
By the by, I guess mileage will vary, but I’ve found the community at FreeThoughtBlogs, which is mostly atheist, to be decidedly less awful than other places. I think the concept of Atheist+ started there, as well as the Deep Rifts between progressive-minded and regressive-minded atheists in the community. Suggestion for people who may want to find a community to be a part of, or at least want to know that not all of Atheism is poisoned. 🙂
Please, no doxing or publishing private details of individuals.
Oh man, it’s perfect!
Banana
That gif and video are awesome! I can’t wait for more episodes
@NickNameNick
You know, on the topic of American Dad, it seems to address issues much better than Family Guy does. The Cleveland Show does it better too. Family Guy has always been really shitty about things. It’s really weird since they’re all produced by MacFarland and he has at least one or fifty speaking parts on the shows.
That’s not saying that The Cleveland Show and American Dad are always decent at addressing issues themselves but there’s 100000000…000000x better than Family Guy.
@kirbywarp
When you say “decidedly less awful”…
…Has this guy actually seen ANY of the previous Mad Max movies? ‘Cause Furiosa is not the first badass woman to roam the apocalyptic wasteland. Auntie Entity, Savannah Nix, and Big Rebecca are just a few that come to mind.
@Banana Jackie Cake:
Well poo. You win this time, blockquote mammoth. Only the first line is supposed to be quoted.
@Banana Jackie: yeah, AD! and CS aren’t perfect – there’s plenty of episode of both I avoid rewatching – but at least it has character-driven humor over random gags. So, when they do deal with some bigger issue, it doesn’t feel like some afterthought or completely out-of-left-field as it does on FG where (other than Stewie and Brian) most of the cast and their personal dilemmas don’t really matter as much as being joke-delivery machines.
@Moggie
As a guy who’s faced a LOT of issues with toxic masculinity, I can answer that with….. a bit of a teal deer.
Basically, ‘masculinity’ is seen as this external thing, that’s why it’s so fragile. Ergo, you are not a ‘mayun’ until you somehow “prove” it. This is why so many of them obsess over sex: Achieving sex with a woman is seen as “proving yourself” as a man. Thus, those who have not had sex are seen as ‘not a man’. I’ve actually had a close friend of mine confess to me that he was a virgin, this was SO uncomfortable for him to do so and he wouldn’t even tell my other friends because he was afraid they would see him as lesser (we never did). I also will fully admit to lying about having sex because I was afraid I’d be judged for it.
The other way for men to “prove” that they are a man? Violence. This is why so many guys get so upset over “Neanderthals” and “chads” and “alpha males”, they look at those guys with envy because those guys ‘prove’ their masculinity just by walking around without a shirt. I also theorize that many of these guys see a women act in a “traditionally” masculine way and, due to their insecurities, perceive this as a threat. Sadly, society reinforces this image.
“A man is what he makes of himself” is proudly displayed on the Red Pill subreddit, like it’s an actual good thing. Naturally, so many of these insecure guys look at women with jealously because women, as they see it, don’t need to “prove” their femininity and they’re like ‘that’s not fair’ (naturally they purposefully exclude women who aren’t attractive nor do they acknowledge the TREMENDOUS amount of effort that goes into ‘looking attractive’, or the fact that toxic femininity is it’s own can of bullshit)
This is also why, when women reject them, they don’t think “well, it sucks that she doesn’t like me”, they think “I must not be a man, if I was, then she would be all over me”. Sooooo many Red Pill and PUA bullshit ideas are based on this; the idea that getting rejected ultimately means you did something “wrong” and all of the “hacks” or “tricks” that will somehow ‘make’ a woman fall for them.
Aaaaaaand then there’s the worst aspect of ‘masculinity’: The idea that it can be TAKEN from you. This is why the idea of a (not sexualized) feeeeeeeemale action hero bothers them so much. If a woman does things traditionally assigned to masculinity, they get a bit of an identity crisis. Now, suddenly, what does ‘being a man’ even mean? After all, if a woman can do it, it’s clearly not ‘manly’. All that work that they put in to “prove their manliness” got washed away. The problem is, they’ve bought into this idea so hard that they can’t let go. It’s sad because they don’t even realize that sexism hurts them.
I’ve faced a lot of problems, and suffered (both physically and emotionally) for not being anywhere close to “traditionally masculine”. Thankfully I found some resources online that really helped me, although I still have a lot of trouble making friends with other guys.
@Kirby
I’ll take a look at that site.
And I will say this about American Dad. Waaaaay less rape jokes than Family Guy. That much I can give it credit for.
And, I may add, that Seth MacFarlane doesn’t actively write on the show and is a producer. The only time he’s gotten writing credit was on the first episode in the first season of every show. I’m sure he has input and stuff, but he has three shows and voice acts in each one, so he can’t be too involved in the writing process because, well, writing, producing, and voice acting in three shows at once is a little too much, I think.
Here’s his Disqus. He’s a big fan and active commenter of RoTKs.
https://disqus.com/by/TS77RP1/
Here’s a comment from 10 days ago.
TRIGGER WARNING
He says he has a daughter.
One more time:
This guy. I’d call him a pig, but pigs are smart and far more charming.
@moggie
We always used to sing “When you’re down by the sea and an eel bites your knee, that’s a moray!”
@Kirbywrap:
Those shows really did need to emphasize more subversion, like Francine Smith being a “dumb blonde” who is actually quite smart (but simply bubbly) or how Roberta Tubbs is actually an A-student despite her outward behavior, than simply keep them as background details sporadically brought up.
@Banana Jackie Cake:
Yeah… that’s completely fair. Guess I’ll just have to dislike each of those shows individually rather than blame them all on one man. Still, I feel like they do share a style, both in terms of art and in terms of content, and I can’t help but think Seth is at least partly to blame.