So you may have heard vague rumors that there’s a new Mad Max film coming out. You also may have heard that it stars Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa alongside Tom Hardy as Mr. Max.
Well, the manly men of the Manospshere are having none of it. On the always terrible Return of Kings, the most-trafficked blog in the Manosphere, Youtube bloviator Aaron Clarey issues a clarion call to his fellow right-thinking men, urging them to
Not only REFUSE to see the movie, but spread the word to as many men as possible. … Because if [men] sheepishly attend and Fury Road is a blockbuster, then you, me, and all the other men (and real women) in the world will never be able to see a real action movie ever again that doesn’t contain some damn political lecture or moray about feminism, SJW-ing, and socialism.
Er, “moray?”
As Clarey sees it, the central flaw in this film that he hasn’t seen is, well, it’s going to be starring Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa. And that’s just not right, because everyone knows that women are just too damn womeny to be postapocalyptical badasses.
Even worse: in one of the trailers for the film “Charlize Theron’s character barked orders to Mad Max. Nobody barks orders to Mad Max.”
Clarey also reports, with a kind of growing horror, that none other than Eve Ensler, of Vagina Monologues fame, was brought in to consult on the film. (And trust me, Clarey’s discomfort with Ensler has nothing to do with her issues with intersectionality.)
Sure, Clarey acknowledges, Fury Road — at least on the surface — “looks like that action guy flick we’ve desperately been waiting for where it is one man with principles, standing against many with none.” But, he warns, despite not having actually seen even a minute of the actual film, nothing could be further from the truth!
[L]et us be clear. … This is the Trojan Horse feminists and Hollywood leftists will use to (vainly) insist on the trope women are equal to men in all things, including physique, strength, and logic. And this is the subterfuge they will use to blur the lines between masculinity and femininity, further ruining women for men, and men for women.
Lines between masculinity and femininity blurring! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes. The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!
Clarey worries that
men in America and around the world are going to be duped by explosions, fire tornadoes, and desert raiders into seeing what is guaranteed to be nothing more than feminist propaganda, while at the same time being insulted AND tricked into viewing a piece of American culture ruined and rewritten right in front of their very eyes.
You might think that someone this worried about the legacy of the original Mad Max might have noticed somewhere along the way that Mad Max is not actually a “piece of American culture” at all. It was an Australian film, filmed in Australia, directed by an Australian, and starring an American citizen who’d been living in Australia since the age of twelve.
I’m guessing that the director of Fury Road might have a somewhat more nuanced understanding of the original Mad Max than someone who doesn’t even know what country the movie was made in, especially given that the director of Fury Road, the director of the original Mad Max, the director of The Road Warrior and the director of Beyond Thunderdome are actually all the very same person.
But over on Return of Kings the fellas are as furious about Furiosa as Clarey is. In the top comment to Clarey’s piece, with several dozen upvotes, someone calling himself “truth” complains that the evil feminists who run Hollywood are ignoring the immutable truths of gender.
Hollywood is a garbage propoganda machine which spews out this feminist drivel filth into the minds of today’s young audience. Even though science has told us and proven, that men are physically stronger than women, it is nonetheless discarded by the forces driving this feminist nonsense.
There is a sick agenda at play here, and it only continues to get worse over time. First this, and now the upcoming “Terminator Genisys” which shows Sarah Connor in a more heroic and superior position to that of Kyle Reese, really makes me wonder how much further down the toilet society is going to go down, in it’s ridiculous attempts to try and reverse the traditional gender and biological roles.
Because “traditional” and “biological” roles always seem to be the exact same thing to these guys.
It is clear that the brainwashing of the masses will continue to go on with the promotion of these absurd movies in conjunction with the whole “girl power” themes that are present in these films. Furthermore, factor in the indoctrination of the liberal schooling and educational system, there is no doubt, that masculinity will be attacked from all sides in attempt to make the female gender more superior. …
I guess from the damage that I am seeing on a daily basis being inflicted by the feminist movement, there is really no turning back. Men will continue to opt out of society and by rejecting to watch these kind of movies, can help to further cement this narrative. And if ever, should the manginas and white knights reach that epiphany when they realise they are not perceived as a credible voice in this feminist driven gynocentric matriarchy that we live in, then even they will opt out of society.
Huh. And, let me guess, once the men all “opt out of society,” it’ll collapse in a giant heap and desperate women will turn to men for help? No wonder these guys are so angry about Fury Road; it challenges their favorite apocalyptic fantasy. Call it Mad Max: I Told You Bitches You’d Come Crawling Back to Me.
Women and feminists in general have without a doubt, proven that they are dysfunctional by nature and cannot be trusted with anything. And this movie helps to prove it.
FWIW, dude, the movie was directed by a man. It was written by men. And even though it’s got a lot more women in it than your typical action movie, most of the named actors in it are male. But apparently, to guys like Clarey and “truth,” it only takes a few drops of female blood to contaminate an entire action film.
Always maintain your masculinity.
And once again it’s the guys who think of themselves as the most macho who are the ones most anxious about their masculinity.
Truth is also horrified by one of the posters he’s seen for the film:
Even though the movie is called “Mad Max”, the poster clearly centres around Charlize Theron, while Tom Hardy looks like some ordinary guy in the background.
A woman’s face … in front of a man’s face! Can masculinity survive this terrible assault?
Slashfund complains that in the poster it “looks like he is wearing a muzzle like her bitch.”
Well, not really. Anyone who’s seen the original Max Max and its first two sequels may remember that a lot of the characters wore weird headgear and creepy masks; this was intended to make them look scary and, you know, postapocalyptic. Max’s new mask is no different.
Clark Kent whines
Where I can’t stand these female characters in kickass movies is when it is so damn obvious that they are forcing the female character in just to appeal to the blue-pill masses. The whole point of Mad Max is that he is the most hardened self-respecting man in the post-apocalyptic world. He lived through the decline, and thus carries all the grief of having been strong enough to see what the world has become.
To turn Mad Max upside down and make it into a feminist flick is horribly telling of our times. Rather than creating new films to depict the world from a women’s perspective, we take the great myths of men and boys and rewrite them to make women happy.
What? Mad Max is a “great myth of men and boys” now? It’s a movie made in 1979, not a tale told around the campfire by our ancient ancestors. And don’t any of you Return of Kingers remember Beyond Thunderdome, the second Mad Max sequel, released six years after the original? You know, the one co-starring Tina Turner, stomping around like a badass as the ruthless ruler of Bartertown?
Like it or not, fellas, but badass women are part of Mad Max canon.
MajorStyles, for his part, suggests that the film may be part of a sinister plot to con men into liking women with (gasp!) short hair — a major Manosphere bugaboo.
And what’s the end game of all this horse shit? That Alpha men will start finding bald, androgyonous women with anger issues attractive? Yeah, when pigs fly…
Again, another fail on the part of Team Feminism. As it has been noted many times, they do not get to order men what to be attracted to. Erections cannot be legislated. Only a man of supreme thirst would find this angynous thing attractive.
And the women who choose to impersonate Theron’s look in this movie will always be relagated to the same position – bridesmaid, cat lady, or beta male abuser.
TS77RP1, meanwhile, wants his fellow men to think of the children. And what he thinks about the children — specifically, those of the female persuasion — is genuinely horrifying.
Seriously: if you’re having a decent day so far, or, hell, a crappy one — basically, if you’re a having any sort of day so far, you may want to skip the rest of this post. No joke.
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Ok, if you’re still with me, here we go:
The only way back is to begin punishing ambition in our daughters and in all female children. They need to be physically and psychologically disciplined to be servile and deferential and they unfortunately need to have it beaten into them that they should NEVER trust their own judgement and always seek guidance and permission of their male headships.
Please tell me this monster doesn’t have a daughter.
My daughter would be turned out with nothing but a shirt on her back if she so much as looked at a college website or played with her brother’s educational toys.
Aw, fuck.
She would be belted to the point of being unable to sit if she exhibited confidence in decision making.
Fucking hell. A proud abuser.
I don’t want my wife to step foot out of the house unless her every dime and minute spent can be accounted for and executed in conjuncture with my approval. My daughter will exude obedience and timidity for whoever her future husband is and it’s imperative that all Christian Men demand nothing less within their own homes. Playtime for feminazis and the left is over. This is our world and our heritage to protect. Let the cultural war begin!
No words.
In a followup comment, he assures one skeptic that his wife and daughter are indeed real.
I do in fact implement this in my own home and practice what I preach vehemently. I have a daughter and sons and they are being raised to know that they are unequivocally different and 100% not equal. My wife is from a highly devout family and she was cowed long ago into obedience by her powerful, alpha father. I kinda won the life lottery >:^)
I can only hope that he’s bullshitting in an attempt to impress the Return of Kings regulars.
But impress them he does, winning upvotes and an awestruck comment by englishbob:
Wow! Its like you have a mini Saudi Arabia right in your home!
Apparently hatred of women trumps hatred of Muslims on Return of Kings.
I have no idea if Mad Max: Fury Road is actually going to be a good film. But I hope it does well, very well, if for no other reason than to spite these assholes.
And apparently none of them saw Tron: Legacy.
Ugh, you know the guys on that site probably worship Ariel Castro too. I’m thinking their IPs should be traced and their basements should be checked for any potential dungeons.
Having now seen the movie, I love that it’s (a) one of the best, most visceral action movies ever made, and (b) ever more feminist than these dudes’ nightmares.
The men (Max and one redeemed character excepted) are monsters who use gratuitous violence to accumulate and maintain power over others with complete indifference to the welfare of anyone else. The women are bigger badasses, but only fight when theit lives or the greater good is at stake. Charlize The Ron totally steals the movie as both the biggest badass and the movie’s emotional center.
Totally loved this movie.
Scented Chairs, I’m trying to resist doing a Rob Schneider impersonation right now about how you don’t know what the three sea shells are for, The opinion template is the number one tool used right now to protect the sanctity and structural integrity of the echo chambers that exist at blogs, web forums, Starbucks, and the modern college campus. .
A new face shows up and makes a comment. That’s when you whip out the opinion template, holding it up to the new person’s post much in the same way a teacher in school holds an answer template over the quiz sheet of a student. Does the new person enter a comment that supports the initial posting 100%? If it does match exactly the hive mind is safe. In the old days the equivalent would be a speaker makes a positive statement, and the crowd responds with a chorus of huzzahs. If the speaker made a negative statement about some topic, the crowd gives their support with harrumphs.
If the new face only “mostly agrees” with the initial post, but raises questions concerning some of the finer points involved, the new poster is mildly chastised for not conforming to groupthink policy. Gotta keep your eye on this one, could end up going either way.
Let’s hope the new poster doesn’t point out a flaw or error that could make the initial post unravel. That’s when the lynch mob mentality takes over, brands the new person with a Scarlet T on the collarbone, and the shunning begins.
Everyone does it to some degree when looking for validation of their opinions. Even I have a checklist when looking at what other people post to be aware of who is going to cause friction.
1:Uses the word normative incorrectly in a sentence.
2:Uses the word normative correctly in a sentence.
3:Drives a Prius, Insight, or MiEV.
WeirdWood, I just think it’s telling of how things work in Hollywood that a thirty year old trilogy would be revived to try to boost the appeal of a standard formula apocalyptic story and milk out some extra ticket revenues. Personally I think Theron is a good enough actor to carry a movie like that all on her own without having to fall back on character name recognition. She did an amazing job in Monster and deserved every award they gave her.
The Ghostbusters reboot might not be the best example to use when discussing the replacement of male with female actors considering how much of a turd sandwich Ghostbusters 2 was. Also, the fourth Bourne movie with Renner left me wondering why I paid to see it.
The black stormtrooper is a huge reveal for the next Star Wars movie and says a lot about what to expect. It means the either clone factories have been shut down, or they are using multiple candidates to refill the ranks of the military from the clone factories. All stormtroopers were clones of Jango Fett just like Boba Fett was. It doesn’t bother me at all that the trooper in the teaser trailer is black.
I’m a bit of a purist when it comes to staying true to the original story source, at least in the superhero genre, although your typical comicbook writer makes that very difficult when characters get killed and come back to life a few months later to rescue revenues because the new story arc fell flat on its face. A prime example of this is the next Marvel installment (due mid summer I believe). Ant Man (Henry Pym) is getting a stand alone movie, and they ditched his wife the Wasp from the storyline, why I have absolutely no idea since she was integral to to development of his powers. This segues in to one of the issues I had with the second Avengers movie. The Vision was created by Henry Pym, not Tony Stark. Unfortunately the same thing seems to be happening with the casting for Suicide Squad. Poison Ivy is no where on the rumor train, but Harlie Quinn is for some odd reason. I can only assume some Disney/Hollywood suits had a meeting and decided Harlie “tested better” than Ivy.
@FEPower, right, so… It’s not possible that people here just independently think you’re wrong?
Probably because a superhero movie about a violent domestic abuser would be a hard sell for parents.
There was one storyline ages and ages ago about how Hank was mentally unstable and also hit his wife. It’s not like it would have been impossible to include the Wasp without doing that storyline.
Yeah, DV is horrible, but it’s a bit weird to me how everyone seems to associate Hank with DV forevermore, when there are loads of superheroes with really long histories who’s done something terrible at one point or another and yet aren’t defined by this for the rest of their careers.
That said, I don’t have a problem with them changing stuff for the movies. It’s been theorized that Tony Stark creating Ultron would somehow lead into the MCU civil wars storyline, for instance. When making movies, they have to consider how the movie storylines are going to fit together, regardless of the comic source material.
Still, it would have been nice to have Janet included for the sheer reason of increasing the number of female heroes in the MCU…
@FE_Power
The Internet. Starbucks. The modern college campus. Starbucks.
This is something you observe frequently happening at Starbucks?
Since just about every franchise in existence is being revived I don’t get why Mad Max stands out. Also for shits and giggles, name a recent successful Hollywood movie featuring “a standard formula apocalyptic story”. I can only think of The Book of Eli, it’s never been a particularly successful genre beyond the Mad Max films.
The Joker is in the upcoming film and they’re presumably going to show Harley’s origin story, with her being seduced by him at Arkham, and establish their abusive relationship. If there is a sequel, The Joker can attempt to murder Harley and they then can introduce Poison Ivy by having her find seriously injured Harley and show the women become close as Ivy nurses Harley back to health. That actually happened in the comics, though I have no idea what DC did to these characters in the new 52 DCU.
Hah, I’ve overcome the blockquote monster’s fearsome attack once again.
FE_Power
Scot Lang is the new Ant Man, while Hank Pym is his elderly mentor. I actually agree with you here, I’d prefer Pym to be Ant Man and “Hope Van Dyne” ain’t Janet. I want Janet, but such is life.
No, it’s not just you. I was thinking the same thing. Of course the rest of robertruns’s garble is almost undeciferable so who know.
This paragraph here is pretty telling. You’re OK with the presence of a non-white storm trooper because there’s a potential plot reason for him to be black. If there is no explicit justification for the black guy in the movie, will that bother you? It’s always the same with you faux neutral bigots. All roles are inherently for cis-het, white dudes. Anyone who isn’t cis-het, white and male has to justify their existence.
FE,
Maybe people didn’t react favorably to you because you called David a douchebag in your very first comment. You were rude. It’s not indicative of a hive mind that you were received poorly. Your bad manners are to blame. I have no idea what the hell you brought up Starbucks for. It’s been awhile, but I’m pretty sure that last time I was there it was just people ordering and drinking coffee.
You also seemed to have entirely and perhaps deliberately missed my point. What does the quality of Ghostbusters 2 have to do with anything? I’m saying that reboots, remakes and sequels, while not always enthusiastically embraced because Hollywood does them to often, only cause a shit storm when they center more around women or POC.
It’s a major problem not just in Hollywood, but everywhere. White cishet men are seen as the default human. As sevenofmine pointed out, you’re doing it too. Why does there always have to be a reason for someone who doesn’t get the default human status to be there?
Also, as has been pointed out more than once, George Miller directed Fury Road. He’s expanding his own universe. You can’t object to the movie on the grounds of being a purist because this is part of the vision of the original director. How narcissistic of you to think you know better about who Max is. You don’t have a leg to stand on here and you know it. You know it too or you’d have an argument more solid than the mean feminazi hive mind not approving of your brave and manly truth bombs.
So this is the third time I’ve seen some trolling douchebag use the term “opinion template” this week.
Can’t be a coincidence. He must be using some template for his opinions (Hah!)
Oh, and here’s all the response you deserve, FE:
*points at you, laughs derisively.*
Now kindly fuck off.
I have found our opinion template:
http://www.educationworld.com/sites/default/files/Brainsheet.jpg
Ahh, so it means “The MRAs are projecting again.” That makes a lot more sense.
Tbh this … looks just like another overblown way of trying not to acknowledge the obvious. Which is thus: “Everyone is disagreeing with me. Could it have something to do with … me?”.
Nah. It must be due to intricate models of group-think psychobabble I found on the internet. The problem is everyone else. Obviously.
Shorter FE Power: I showed up and called David a hippie douchebag who didn’t understand the movies, and then the commenters assumed that I was an asshole. Must be because of their pesky opinion templates and their echo chamber.
I just got back from watching Fury Road. It was AWESOME! It wasn’t a reboot but works as a part 4. I had no idea. The action was non-stop and the stunts and effects were mind blowing. It is worth the extra cash to see it on the big screen in 3D.
The main male characters were strong, smart, ridiculously brave and dynamic. The bad guys were resourceful and appropriately creeptacular. The gents got plenty of screen time.
So what is it MRAs hate about this film?
*slight spoilers*
Authoritarian patriarchy and toxic masculinity were shown as oppressive to everyone but the men at the very top. Young men are sacrificed to keep old megalomaniacs in power. Max’s madness is severe PTSD. Yet, those characters overcome. Everyone in the film is shown dealing with pain, hopelessness and scarcity. Max never quite loses his humanity. That’s the strongest thing about him.
The women in the film were bad to the bone. The film passed the Bechdel test with flying colors. “Little old ladies” were some of the toughest characters in the film. Do not wait. Go see it before it is out of theaters. If you like car chases and explosions, you will not be disappointed.
I may go see it again.
I’m moving next Saturday so it’s going to be a busy week, but I work right by a theater so if I get enough done over the next couple days, I may pop in before work.
‘Echo chambers at Starbucks’ may be the name of my next prog-rock band.
@Misha,
Maybe the echo chambers within Starbucks prevent people from criticizing their coffee and throw out anyone who cites the Food Babe’s attacks on pumpkin spice lattes?
@alaisvex, I’d only seen John Oliver go public with his pumpkin spice hate:
http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=DeQqe0oj5Ls
Fight that echo chamber, people. They can’t kid us for ever. Pumpkin spice latte’s suck.